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Rygondria
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Postby Rygondria » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:15 pm

Krugmar wrote:
Rygondria wrote:Would it be ok for vinland to own a few islands in the pacific,you know like Micronesia and stuff like that.


Micronesia is owned by the Germans at the moment. The FRCA is also conducting several missions in the central-northern pacific. Not sure who else is at the moment.

wake maybe?

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:19 pm

Well, time to make sure no Europeans take advantage of the vacant Mexico.
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United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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Postby Kargintina » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:21 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:
Kargintina wrote:Someone reserved the Iberian peninsula but never append so I guess that's open.

Is bulgur ok?

Pretty that is Turkish land. Iberia is the only thing left in Europe. Actually now that I think of it Sweden and Finland were reserved but never apped for, that's open too.

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Krugmar
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Postby Krugmar » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:24 pm

Rygondria wrote:
Krugmar wrote:
Micronesia is owned by the Germans at the moment. The FRCA is also conducting several missions in the central-northern pacific. Not sure who else is at the moment.

wake maybe?


I can't see much strategic value for Vinland in owning it, but then again some colonisation was about prestige rather than strategy. It would mean having to split more of your budget to a Pacific fleet, but once again I'm not really sure you'll need a massive Atlantic fleet anyway.
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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:26 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Bhikkustan wrote:Is bulgur ok?

Pretty that is Turkish land. Iberia is the only thing left in Europe. Actually now that I think of it Sweden and Finland were reserved but never apped for, that's open too.


Ah really? I was going to apply as Spain and then it was reserved. Oh well, I guess you are just stuck with me :p
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Negara-West Hesia
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Postby Negara-West Hesia » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:27 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Bhikkustan wrote:Is bulgur ok?

Pretty that is Turkish land. Iberia is the only thing left in Europe. Actually now that I think of it Sweden and Finland were reserved but never apped for, that's open too.

Sweden was applied for, I think.

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Postby PLESSUR » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:27 pm

Bulgaria is trying to claim colonies in Africa? Wtf? Any reality?
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Veskesh wrote:Jeez if Turkey keeps having these coups they'll be kicked out of NATO and won't be able to join the EU....

The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened, but the Confederacy coup didn't cause it to be kicked out, did it?

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Rygondria
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Postby Rygondria » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:29 pm

Krugmar wrote:
Rygondria wrote:wake maybe?


I can't see much strategic value for Vinland in owning it, but then again some colonisation was about prestige rather than strategy. It would mean having to split more of your budget to a Pacific fleet, but once again I'm not really sure you'll need a massive Atlantic fleet anyway.

It was mainly an action by the third president of Vinland to improve Its pretige internationally and to be used a a gate way to easier trade in the orient. It is mainly ignored as just a overseas territory but i well probably install a naval base.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:30 pm

Wait, did the Central Americans make the Nicaragua Canal too?
That's kinda of a bad idea. Especially in this time period.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:40 pm

Well, Plan B.
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Postby Krugmar » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:40 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Wait, did the Central Americans make the Nicaragua Canal too?
That's kinda of a bad idea. Especially in this time period.


Other than the environmental implications, I'm not sure what would put the Federal Republic's government off such a project, since the environment wasn't exactly their priority at that point, or this point.
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:46 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:

Brazil likes this, but substitute Turkey for Italy :P

I think Brazil and I could shape up to be friends

also, I'll only float my ideas when the Conference thread is up (*nudge nudge* Karg)
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Postby New Rnclave » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:09 pm

Reatra wrote:Rnclave hurry dafuq up I'm scared of this alliance.


BTW Britain, why did you offer Deseret an alliance? They can't take on America and I'm not a threat? Seems a bit meta-gaming.


The Triumvirate won't have much power either. We might be able to push their armies back if they do attack, but few of us have offensive capabilities.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:17 pm

Krugmar wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Wait, did the Central Americans make the Nicaragua Canal too?
That's kinda of a bad idea. Especially in this time period.


Other than the environmental implications, I'm not sure what would put the Federal Republic's government off such a project, since the environment wasn't exactly their priority at that point, or this point.

The greatest hindrance to the Panama Canal project was the loss of life, caused by the lack of access to clean water in jungle conditions. By laying the groundwork for the Nicaragua Canal and as the project moves forward, you are turning Lake Nicaragua into a deadzone and the water highly polluted. Lake Nicaragua is a major source for drinking water which you will have destroyed, leaving workers and the population without water, raising the cost and backlash tremendously .
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Grothmogia
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Postby Grothmogia » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:40 pm

Plessur wrote:Bulgaria is trying to claim colonies in Africa? Wtf? Any reality?

I am simply trying to enter into Africa. It makes the rp more interesting. Also, who said anything about the African colonies needing to be grounded in reality? The world is so different that anyone could be planning on building up colonies in Africa. We simply must wait and see.

Also, Russia, do you want to make a joint condemnation of the coup within Turkey? Seeing as we are both republics, I think that it would make sense. Maybe we should also condemn the Hungarian ultimatum.

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Conwy-Shire
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:43 pm

Grothmogia wrote:I am simply trying to enter into Africa. It makes the rp more interesting. Also, who said anything about the African colonies needing to be grounded in reality? The world is so different that anyone could be planning on building up colonies in Africa. We simply must wait and see.

Also, Russia, do you want to make a joint condemnation of the coup within Turkey? Seeing as we are both republics, I think that it would make sense. Maybe we should also condemn the Hungarian ultimatum.

maybe you should send me that proposal you mentioned in the IC :p
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PLESSUR
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Postby PLESSUR » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:47 pm

Grothmogia wrote:
Plessur wrote:Bulgaria is trying to claim colonies in Africa? Wtf? Any reality?

I am simply trying to enter into Africa. It makes the rp more interesting. Also, who said anything about the African colonies needing to be grounded in reality? The world is so different that anyone could be planning on building up colonies in Africa. We simply must wait and see.

Also, Russia, do you want to make a joint condemnation of the coup within Turkey? Seeing as we are both republics, I think that it would make sense. Maybe we should also condemn the Hungarian ultimatum.


You cannot be more appalled by the 'ultimatum' than the receivers themselves, i.e. Belgrade. Plus, the official ultimatum mentioned has never been sent, at least not yet. The demands issued by Budapest were just that - demands from one state to another through usual diplomatic channels, the contents of which have remained mostly unclear to outside states.
Anarcho-Saxony wrote:
Veskesh wrote:Jeez if Turkey keeps having these coups they'll be kicked out of NATO and won't be able to join the EU....

The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened, but the Confederacy coup didn't cause it to be kicked out, did it?

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Postby Grothmogia » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:57 pm

Plessur wrote:
Grothmogia wrote:I am simply trying to enter into Africa. It makes the rp more interesting. Also, who said anything about the African colonies needing to be grounded in reality? The world is so different that anyone could be planning on building up colonies in Africa. We simply must wait and see.

Also, Russia, do you want to make a joint condemnation of the coup within Turkey? Seeing as we are both republics, I think that it would make sense. Maybe we should also condemn the Hungarian ultimatum.


You cannot be more appalled by the 'ultimatum' than the receivers themselves, i.e. Belgrade. Plus, the official ultimatum mentioned has never been sent, at least not yet. The demands issued by Budapest were just that - demands from one state to another through usual diplomatic channels, the contents of which have remained mostly unclear to outside states.


Didn't you concede to the demands in your post?

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Postby Reatra » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:18 pm

New Rnclave wrote:
Reatra wrote:Rnclave hurry dafuq up I'm scared of this alliance.


BTW Britain, why did you offer Deseret an alliance? They can't take on America and I'm not a threat? Seems a bit meta-gaming.


The Triumvirate won't have much power either. We might be able to push their armies back if they do attack, but few of us have offensive capabilities.


Better than nothing.

We can get much of the rest of the Americas in, to protect against European imperialism.

Plus you've got a great industrial potential.
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Postby Kisinger » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:18 pm

Negara-West Hesia wrote:Seeing as the Hungarian proposal hands over territories that are already actively German possessions to England, Iberia, and Scotland I dearly hope nobody will mind if we safely ignore it.

On the same note: I do really need everyone who's seriously involved in the Frankfurt talks to give me suggestions so I can build a compromise decision. The German and Scottish delegation are both united in deciding that the Congo is Scottish. Beyond that, Germany is adamant that Nigeria go to Denmark, and that her current possessions on the continent will not be given up arbitrarily to some other state.

A suggestion that they will be taking on board is that of the Suez Company owning the Suez Canal, since it's of such strategic importance to all of the European powers.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:22 pm

Reatra wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
The Triumvirate won't have much power either. We might be able to push their armies back if they do attack, but few of us have offensive capabilities.


Better than nothing.

We can get much of the rest of the Americas in, to protect against European imperialism.

Plus you've got a great industrial potential.

You guys are pretty much European, as you Anglos/etc didn't really mix with the natives.
No mestizaje.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:23 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Better than nothing.

We can get much of the rest of the Americas in, to protect against European imperialism.

Plus you've got a great industrial potential.

You guys are pretty much European, as you Anglos/etc didn't really mix with the natives.
No mestizaje.

Geographically they are in no way European. I think they are referring to states geographically located in Europe m8.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:32 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:You guys are pretty much European, as you Anglos/etc didn't really mix with the natives.
No mestizaje.

Geographically they are in no way European. I think they are referring to states geographically located in Europe m8.

The only difference between US/Cali-Texas and European imperialism is the name.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Negara-West Hesia
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Postby Negara-West Hesia » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:33 pm

there's a lot of people using german guns and equipment who germany would almost unconditionally not sell those guns and equipment to, btw.

if you could spot me a TG in case you wanted to be friends with germany according to your history so we can actually discuss that rather than you assuming it that'd be great

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:33 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Geographically they are in no way European. I think they are referring to states geographically located in Europe m8.

The only difference between US/Cali-Texas and European imperialism is the name.

And yours is different?

You're not even Mestizo; Argentina is majority European.
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