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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:09 pm

Rnclave hurry dafuq up I'm scared of this alliance.


BTW Britain, why did you offer Deseret an alliance? They can't take on America and I'm not a threat? Seems a bit meta-gaming.
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Kargintina
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Postby Kargintina » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:11 pm

Reatra wrote:Rnclave hurry dafuq up I'm scared of this alliance.


BTW Britain, why did you offer Deseret an alliance? They can't take on America and I'm not a threat? Seems a bit meta-gaming.

How is that meta-gaming? The UK isn't going to trust a Left-Wing anti-capitalist America.

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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:13 pm

@Kargintinia could you update the OP to put Morocco in? Idk who the mapmakers are but I'd like to finally get put on there as well.


Reatra wrote:Rnclave hurry dafuq up I'm scared of this alliance.


BTW Britain, why did you offer Deseret an alliance? They can't take on America and I'm not a threat? Seems a bit meta-gaming.

How is that meta-gaming...?
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:14 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Reatra wrote:Rnclave hurry dafuq up I'm scared of this alliance.


BTW Britain, why did you offer Deseret an alliance? They can't take on America and I'm not a threat? Seems a bit meta-gaming.

How is that meta-gaming? The UK isn't going to trust a Left-Wing anti-capitalist America.


But what is Deseret going to do? They probably have 5% the army the USA does, and only can occupy their wild west. You're forcing the USA to include Mexico and California in the alliance to combat you, you're setting us up for a Great War in a really weird way.

Realistically you'd make one alliance, and then your enemy would see this and make one alliance, then you would see that and make another alliance, then your enemy sees that, etc. etc.

Allying like eight countries at once really isn't the way it's done pre-WWI. Sure, after people realize the horrors of war then they can do that to ensure nobody ever destroys Europe/America again, but pre-WWI-like experience people don't ally like that.
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:15 pm

Senkaku wrote:@Kargintinia could you update the OP to put Morocco in? Idk who the mapmakers are but I'd like to finally get put on there as well.


Reatra wrote:Rnclave hurry dafuq up I'm scared of this alliance.


BTW Britain, why did you offer Deseret an alliance? They can't take on America and I'm not a threat? Seems a bit meta-gaming.

How is that meta-gaming...?


I may be confusing my RP terms, meta-gaming is using things that you OOC know will happen but IC don't and using those things IC, right?
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:15 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Argentina, Brazil, and Chile.
However, ever since the Cisplatine war, relations between Argentina and Brazil mostly warmed. Even the South American Naval Arms Race was mostly friendly, as Argentina and Brazil perceived each other as rivals, not as enemies. Our natural resources would be enough to let us borrow European industry to buy our own armament, though Brazil is increasingly modernizing and industrializing, and Patagonia trails it.

I wouldn't call the South American Naval Race friendly.

But not hostile in any way.
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No way.

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We nailed our god to a stick!
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:16 pm

Reatra wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Could I reserve a Confederation of Peru, Chile, and Argentina?


I love you

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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

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We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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Postby Kisinger » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:19 pm

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Baja California y Sonora
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:23 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Baja California y Sonora wrote:I wouldn't call the South American Naval Race friendly.

But not hostile in any way.

The race was pretty much over by the time they signed the ABC pact in 1915.

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Negara-West Hesia
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Postby Negara-West Hesia » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:24 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Yasuragi wrote:Only two proposals for the Frankfurt Conference as of yet? I am disappointed that others haven't floated their own ideas...

Even though the conference thread isn't up, we can still present maps and whatnot. :P


fine

here's the turkish suggestion

and thus, turkey was barred from the Frankfurt conference

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:27 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:

The race was pretty much over by the time they signed the ABC pact in 1915.

The idea of the ABC nations was around since even before the arms race.
There was no plans to go to war, but rather just show off.
It wasn't like the Anglo-German dreadnought race or the Cold War.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Bhikkustan
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Postby Bhikkustan » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:30 pm

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Terminus Alpha
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:37 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Reatra wrote:Rnclave hurry dafuq up I'm scared of this alliance.


BTW Britain, why did you offer Deseret an alliance? They can't take on America and I'm not a threat? Seems a bit meta-gaming.

How is that meta-gaming? The UK isn't going to trust a Left-Wing anti-capitalist America.

Maybe we could have a defensive alliance? The American Commonwealth ain't exactly friendly with an anti-capitalist state. Even the Colored Man's Party, the most radical of the three major parties, doesn't really have a problem with market capitalism, just that most of the former slaves in the Commonwealth are basically tied to the land they work through sharecropping and can't really participate in the market.

Also, before I go through the trouble; I'd like to form a military pact with the following nations:
-Texas
-Cuba
-FRCA
-Brazil
-The other guys in Latin America.

I'm thinking that the pact would be something similar to NATO in that if a nation from outside the pact attacks one within the pact, they are to be treated as attacking the whole pact, but I'd rather not have it be dominated by one singular nation.
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Negara-West Hesia
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Postby Negara-West Hesia » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:41 pm

Seeing as the Hungarian proposal hands over territories that are already actively German possessions to England, Iberia, and Scotland I dearly hope nobody will mind if we safely ignore it.

On the same note: I do really need everyone who's seriously involved in the Frankfurt talks to give me suggestions so I can build a compromise decision. The German and Scottish delegation are both united in deciding that the Congo is Scottish. Beyond that, Germany is adamant that Nigeria go to Denmark, and that her current possessions on the continent will not be given up arbitrarily to some other state.

A suggestion that they will be taking on board is that of the Suez Company owning the Suez Canal, since it's of such strategic importance to all of the European powers.
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Liecthenbourg
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:51 pm

Brazil has created a non-biased, out of Europe perspective into these colonial claims.

Clearly.

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Bhikkustan
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Postby Bhikkustan » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:57 pm

Is there a nation I could play?
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Negara-West Hesia
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Postby Negara-West Hesia » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:59 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:Brazil has created a non-biased, out of Europe perspective into these colonial claims.

Clearly.

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Kargintina
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Postby Kargintina » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:01 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:Is there a nation I could play?

Ethiopia.

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Postby Bhikkustan » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:02 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Bhikkustan wrote:Is there a nation I could play?

Ethiopia.

In Europe?

Africa is ok, but I would prefer Europe. More rping imo
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Kargintina
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Postby Kargintina » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:05 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:
Kargintina wrote:Ethiopia.

In Europe?

Africa is ok, but I would prefer Europe. More rping imo

Someone reserved the Iberian peninsula but never append so I guess that's open.

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Rygondria
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Rygondria » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:07 pm

Would it be ok for vinland to own a few islands in the pacific,you know like Micronesia and stuff like that.

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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:09 pm

This is the Scottish proposal for the conference.
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Postby Bhikkustan » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:09 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Bhikkustan wrote:In Europe?

Africa is ok, but I would prefer Europe. More rping imo

Someone reserved the Iberian peninsula but never append so I guess that's open.

Is bulgur ok?
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Baja California y Sonora
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:13 pm

So i'm dropping out of the RP due to time constraints. Good luck to all of you, and have fun (:

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Postby Krugmar » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:13 pm

Rygondria wrote:Would it be ok for vinland to own a few islands in the pacific,you know like Micronesia and stuff like that.


Micronesia is owned by the Germans at the moment. The FRCA is also conducting several missions in the central-northern pacific. Not sure who else is at the moment.
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