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A Tale of Today (OOC/Open/AH)

Postby Kargintina » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:54 am

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A Tale of Today
1898 Alternate History Roleplay
IC-Map-Theme-Conference of Frankfurt
OP:Kargintina CO-OP: Sanabel

An assembly line grinds along, mass producing the highest demanded products at the expense of a common man's energy and soul. Industrial smoke pillars int the sky, and electricity surges to power light bulbs and all the household expenses. Cameras captivate viewers as a real moment can be turned into picture at the press of a button. These are the fruits to bear of the new age, one that sees the century come to a close and a new era of industry and technology begin. The well-to-do's live in the upmost of splendor, bearing the fanciest clothing and most modern household items, all built by poor folk working in a factory trying to make an honest days work. Similar to the contrast between rich and poor is the contrast between the dynastic monarchies of Europe still living in their old ways of colonialism as Africa is turned into a second new world while the Republics of the Americas squabble over one another for land all while crying out in the name of liberty and equality.

The world exists in a state of severe social issues as race, gender, class and political ideologies cry out against discrimination all while covered in a thin gold gilding. In the Far East, empires of old and new, local and foreign clash as long time isolationist nations are forced into trade and subjugation and now seek colonies of their own. The African continent sees tribes now flee inland as clubs and spears made by hand from trees fight against rifles and machineguns made on an assembly line at a local factory. This modern age is one of great contrast, and one of great change.

Important stuff not apart of the rules
-Reservations last 24 hours. Major nations like the Second Reich or whatever form of you make cannot be reserved and will have a strict and ruthless process of looking at your app. Think twice before you app for a Great Power.
-It is preferred you do not make a generic and boring real life nations. Alternate history is allowed and encouraged.
-Africa is mostly unclaimed at the start of the RP save for some colonies and tribes and will be open for a late scramble for Africa.


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1. No godmodding, metagaming or anything like that.
2. Standard NS rules
3. Posts must be of good quality, at least a few paragraphs and maintain 100% proper grammar throughout the whole thing. Pictures are a nice addition but aren't required.
4. Listen to everything me or any Co-ops say as we have full command over anything.
5. No whining because your app got denied for some reason. If I'm critiquing something in your app it is most likely because you made a mistake and should fix it. Fixing a mistake in an app is must easier and faster than crying and trying to gain sympathy as you will receive none.
6. Wars with other players should be decided over TG or with random number generators, and try to keep things as general as possible when describing conflict as describing minute details of every battle messes up the timescale of the RP.


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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:57 am

Tag. Your title has a typo, unless it's some deep philosophical stuff.

And it's fixed. I hope I don't look crazy now.
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Postby Kargintina » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:59 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:Tag. Your title has a typo, unless it's some deep philosophical stuff.

It's quoting the Mark Twain book, "The Golded Age: A Tale of Today" and yes I fixed it.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:00 am

Kargintina wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Tag. Your title has a typo, unless it's some deep philosophical stuff.

It's quoting the Mark Twain book, "The Golded Age: A Tale of Today" and yes I fixed it.

Eh, isn't it Gilded age?

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Kargintina
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Postby Kargintina » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:02 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Kargintina wrote:It's quoting the Mark Twain book, "The Golded Age: A Tale of Today" and yes I fixed it.

Eh, isn't it Gilded age?

Ergh, I can't seem to spell anything right. Can we just forget about it and move on?

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:02 am

Kargintina wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Eh, isn't it Gilded age?

Ergh, I can't seem to spell anything right. Can we just forget about it and move on?

Absolutely, focusing on the RP rather than grammar is probably the way ahead.

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Postby Sanabel » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:09 am

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General Info
NS name: Sanabel
Nation Formal name: The United Boer Republics
Nation Informal name: Boer States, Transvaal
Population: ~4.5 million
Colonial Population: N/A
Capital city: Bloemfontein

Government Info
Head(s) of State: President Paul Kruger
Head(s) of Government: Same
Government type: Constitutional Republic
Explanation of Government: The government is, in the words of the Orange Free State's founders, "a model Republic". The nation is divided into municipalities, who send delegates to serve on the Volksraad. The Volksraad then elects a President. Jointly, the Volksraad and President make governmental policy, bound by the Constitution of the Congress of Pietermaritzburg. There is a lot of local autonomy, with the government in charge mostly of preserving national sovereignty, raising an army ensuring common law, keeping roads and levying taxes. However, there are recent pushes to involve the government more in education and other fields. Boers and Griquas(and Ovambos and other similar peoples) who are burghers above 16 may vote for delegates. Land owners may serve as delegates. Non-English Uitlanders above 30 with a 5 year residence and own land may vote as well.
ideology: Conservatism, Republicanism, national preservation, traditionalism

Military Info
Amount of Active Army: 3,000
Amount of Reserve Army: 200,000
Amount of Active Navy: 1,000 men w/ 30 patrol craft for shores and rivers, and 1 ship of the line out of Port Natal.
Amount of Reserve Navy: None
Description of quality of equipment, training etc.: The Active military is professional. It is armed with mostly modern arms, but this force is mostly symbolic, and is used to guard Bloemfontein and Port Natal. However, the reserve forces use the commando system, and is very powerful. It is divided into local militias by municipalities, with an assigned officer called a kommendant. This officer trains the militias. Militias are armed variably, with level of technology and type varying by militia. However, the commandos are overall some of the most skilled asymmetrical fighters in the world, with brilliant officers, guerilla techniques, and sharpshooters. (Note, this is taken from real life. The Boer Commando System was a very powerful fighting force and functioned in the exact same way until British annexation).

Other info
Alliances/treaties: First Treaty of Ulundi(Boer-Zulu alliance), The Congress of Pietermaritzburg(established the United Republic), Second Treaty of Ulundi(gave nominal control over Zulu foreign policy to Bloemfontein)
Vassals/Dominions/Puppets: The Zulu Kingdom
Current Goals: Maintain sovereignty, settle/annex Bechuanaland, attract more Uitlanders from Europe and East Asia, build a cross-country railway, industrialize
History of your nation:
1838: Rev. F. Owen convinces the Boers of Piet Retief's party not only to recover cattle stolen from the Zulus by their enemies the Tlôkwa in exchange for land, but also to to slaughter the tribe to garner favor with King Dingane. This leads to the Battle of Emakhosini, in which the Boers under Retief and Pretorius trapped and laid waste to the entire tribe. This leads to Dingane building a personal friendship with Retief, rather than a bloody clash. However, it did spark a rivalry between Retief and Pretorius over influence.
1840: Fed up with the domination of politics of the Natalia Republic by Retief, Pretorius and his followers had a second Great Trek, to found the Orange Free State, and later Transvaal. (Other minor states founded as well like irl)
1843: South African War occurs. The Anglo-Norwegian invaded the Natalia Republic from the Cape for the valuable ports and resources. However, Boer commandos in Natalia hold off their enemy's momentum, through bloody guerilla tactics.
1844: After months of stalemate with the Anglo-Norwegian forces, the other Boer and Griqua republics entered the war, as well as the Zulu and Swazi kingdoms, seeing the British as a threat to their sovereignty as well.
1845: British forces were fully repelled. The war ended with the consolidation of the Griqua states, and the Orange Free state and other minor states. Borders are established officially between the states.
1846: Retief dies of old age, which warms relations between Orange and Natalia.
1847: The Congress of Pietermaritzburg is held, unifying the Boer republics under a single government, which is done for a plethora of reasons such as maintaining independence.
1848: Griqua states brought into the united republic, to prevent them from falling under British influence.
1850: Zulu Kingdom and Swazi Kingdom are made protectorates of this large new republic.
1860: Diamonds discovered in Transvaal, sparking a major diamond rush. Due to sea access that wasn't possessed irl, many more non-English settlers are able to enter the country. Uitlanders from France, Sweden, Scotland, and more flooded in, as well as East Asians and more.
1870: A land grant system is established to allow for more settlement.
1875: Nava force is established.
1876-1898: The resource-based economy began to boom as new markets opened for it, such as Germany and Netheralnds. Due to the throwing off of the English yoke, the Boer Republic grew to become a strong force in Southern Africa. They have continued to encourage migration but have prevented the English from doing so.


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Postby World Anarchic Union » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:11 am

Tag. Wondering what I could be...
A workers' republic wouldn't be acceptable, right?
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Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Political Objectives:
Revolutionary
100 Equality, 93 Liberty and 29 Stability

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Postby Caltarania » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:13 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:Tag. Wondering what I could be...
A workers' republic wouldn't be acceptable, right?


Tad early, I'd say.
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Postby Sanabel » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:15 am

Caltarania wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:Tag. Wondering what I could be...
A workers' republic wouldn't be acceptable, right?


Tad early, I'd say.

I doubt it. Marxism and Anarchism were pretty popular by the 1890s.
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Postby World Anarchic Union » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:17 am

Sanabel wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Tad early, I'd say.

I doubt it. Marxism and Anarchism were pretty popular by the 1890s.

They were but there weren't any "Workers' Republics" nevertheless.
It would be interesting, but if I am not allowed I might try something other in Europe.
THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!
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Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Political Objectives:
Revolutionary
100 Equality, 93 Liberty and 29 Stability

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Postby Caltarania » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:17 am

Sanabel wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Tad early, I'd say.

I doubt it. Marxism and Anarchism were pretty popular by the 1890s.


Yes, but the first socialist state emerged only in 1917, and even that was after an intense war during which most of the country that was to become the Soviet Union was sick of said war. I'd argue a state either on the brink of collapse - or with a strong Marxist party - would be plausible, but personally a fully fledged workers' republic sounds a tad far-fetched.

I'll leave it to the op decide, though, as I personally am just giving my personal opinion on the matter.
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Postby Kargintina » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:18 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:Tag. Wondering what I could be...
A workers' republic wouldn't be acceptable, right?

1890s had Leftism as a pretty popular ideology. I'd say with a good enough history sure.

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Postby Sanabel » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:20 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I doubt it. Marxism and Anarchism were pretty popular by the 1890s.

They were but there weren't any "Workers' Republics" nevertheless.
It would be interesting, but if I am not allowed I might try something other in Europe.

Why not RP a state undergoing a socialist revolution? I still think it's possible, with the right POD. That's not to say such a state wouldn't be hated and extremely vulnerable.
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Postby World Anarchic Union » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:22 am

Kargintina wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:Tag. Wondering what I could be...
A workers' republic wouldn't be acceptable, right?

1890s had Leftism as a pretty popular ideology. I'd say with a good enough history sure.

Ok, I will try to think of something. What countries would you say this could happen?

Sanabel wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:They were but there weren't any "Workers' Republics" nevertheless.
It would be interesting, but if I am not allowed I might try something other in Europe.

Why not RP a state undergoing a socialist revolution? I still think it's possible, with the right POD. That's not to say such a state wouldn't be hated and extremely vulnerable.

That's what I am saying, mostly.
I am aware of the dangers, my dear friend. But it is a risk I am willing to take.
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Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Political Objectives:
Revolutionary
100 Equality, 93 Liberty and 29 Stability

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Postby Sanabel » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:23 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:
Kargintina wrote:1890s had Leftism as a pretty popular ideology. I'd say with a good enough history sure.

Ok, I will try to think of something. What countries would you say this could happen?

Sanabel wrote:Why not RP a state undergoing a socialist revolution? I still think it's possible, with the right POD. That's not to say such a state wouldn't be hated and extremely vulnerable.

That's what I am saying, mostly.
I am aware of the dangers, my dear friend. But it is a risk I am willing to take.

Just do it then. Where would such a state be?
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Postby Kargintina » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:24 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:
Kargintina wrote:1890s had Leftism as a pretty popular ideology. I'd say with a good enough history sure.

Ok, I will try to think of something. What countries would you say this could happen?

Probably Sweden would be the most likely IMO.
Edit: Too make it even more interesting you could do Scandinavia in a Union if you do your Alt-hist right.
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Postby World Anarchic Union » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:25 am

Sanabel wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:Ok, I will try to think of something. What countries would you say this could happen?


That's what I am saying, mostly.
I am aware of the dangers, my dear friend. But it is a risk I am willing to take.

Just do it then. Where would such a state be?

Well, that's the missing link. I was thinking Europe but don't know exactly where in Europe.
THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!
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Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Political Objectives:
Revolutionary
100 Equality, 93 Liberty and 29 Stability

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Postby Sanabel » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:30 am

Kargintina wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:Ok, I will try to think of something. What countries would you say this could happen?

Probably Sweden would be the most likely IMO.
Edit: Too make it even more interesting you could do Scandinavia in a Union if you do your Alt-hist right.

Doesn't seem likely. Sweden was pretty conservative.
World Anarchic Union wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Just do it then. Where would such a state be?

Well, that's the missing link. I was thinking Europe but don't know exactly where in Europe.

Central Europe?

You could even do North America...socialism came to Quebec in the 1870s.
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Postby World Anarchic Union » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:33 am

Sanabel wrote:
Kargintina wrote:Probably Sweden would be the most likely IMO.
Edit: Too make it even more interesting you could do Scandinavia in a Union if you do your Alt-hist right.

Doesn't seem likely. Sweden was pretty conservative.
World Anarchic Union wrote:Well, that's the missing link. I was thinking Europe but don't know exactly where in Europe.

Central Europe?

You could even do North America...socialism came to Quebec in the 1870s.

I was thinking Central or Western Europe. Or Spain but that would be stretching it very much.
Quebec? Oh, that would cause me ven more trouble than usual :p
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VIVA EZLN!

PRO: Anarcho-Communism, Libertarian Socialism, Communalism, Revolutionary Catalonia, Council Communism, Direct Democracy, Ecology, Internationalism, Pro-Choice, Palestine, Feminism, LGBTQ+ Rights


ANTI: Capitalism, Imperialism, NATO, Fascism, Authoritarianism, Nationalism, (Neo)Liberalism, Conservatism, Reformism, Militarism, Misogyny, Racism
Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.77

Political Objectives:
Revolutionary
100 Equality, 93 Liberty and 29 Stability

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Postby Reatra » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:34 am

Reserve pl0x


And I know its big, but it only has like 20 million people.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Sanabel » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:36 am

Reatra wrote:Reserve pl0x


And I know its big, but it only has like 20 million people.

No. Please no. Dear God, no.

20 million people also is A LOT for a western country that isn't a great power in 1898.

I don't think it's possible for this wank to have that many.
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Postby Caltarania » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:37 am

Sanabel wrote:
Reatra wrote:Reserve pl0x


And I know its big, but it only has like 20 million people.

No. Please no. Dear God, no.

20 million people also is A LOT for a western country that isn't a great power in 1898.

I don't think it's possible for this wank to have that many.


Please kill the caliwank.
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