A Song of Ice and Fire :: Factions (OOC)

[Austria and Bavaria]

Westerlands mines need to be stronger....

[The Flame Dawn]

Westerlands mines need to be stronger....

you shouldn't have spent all your money on your military

[Austria and Bavaria]

Westerlands mines need to be stronger....

you shouldn't have spent all your money on your military

Valid point, but it's ridiculous that Vineyards in the reach make more the Westerlands' mines.

[G-Tech Corporation]

you shouldn't have spent all your money on your military

Valid point, but it's ridiculous that Vineyards in the reach make more the Westerlands' mines.

To be fair, iirc only the mines around Casterly Rock have gold. Your house bonus should be something along the lines of "Shits Gold: Mines near Casterly Rock produce +50 Gold."

[G-Tech Corporation]

Here is the answer.

House Gardener:
Highgarden [Large City] (Curtain Wall, Town Market Tier 1, Port | Baker, Tanner, Potter] (2 Vineyards, 4 Farms, Trade Post, Horsebreeder, 2 Windmills)
-Highgarden [Average Castle] (Blacksmith, Weaponsmith)
Sasane [Large Village] (2 Vineyards, 4 Farms, Trade Post, Horsebreeder, 2 Windmills)
Tustun [Average Village] (2 Vineyards)
Trellis [Large Village] (2 Vineyards)
Mernsward [Small Village] (2 Vineyards)
Wetgate [Keep] (23 Months remaining)
Garthsguard [Small Village] (2 Vineyards)
Manston [Small Village] (2 Vineyards)

VERSUS

Accepted, for Lannister, you have direct control over Casterly and Lannisport only, which isn't a terrible thing having a sizable castle and city together. The rest are going to be NPC vassals until someone decides to take control over them.

Look at the infrastructure difference.

With 2 starting holdings even if he invested in all mines and villages, no way. No Way is he going to overcome the vinespam at a cheaper price.

I'm not sure if the player knows he could spam custom villages.

Actually, that won't be the case any more- it's too strong, so the prices to establish new settlements will increase rapidly. After all, it isn't the easiest thing to find new peasants constantly.

[Relikai]

Westerlands mines need to be stronger....

you shouldn't have spent all your money on your military

If my calculations are right, A&B should not have spent his money on Vassal Military. His direct standing army cost only 10gold more than Reach's.

[G-Tech Corporation]

you shouldn't have spent all your money on your military

If my calculations are right, A&B should not have spent his money on Vassal Military. His direct standing army cost only 10gold more than Reach's.

I've been building mine up though; his has been there from the get-go. Makes all the difference, really, stunting your revenue stream versus siphoning off a bit of gold from a solid income.

[The Flame Dawn]

If my calculations are right, A&B should not have spent his money on Vassal Military. His direct standing army cost only 10gold more than Reach's.

I've been building mine up though; his has been there from the get-go. Makes all the difference, really, stunting your revenue stream versus siphoning off a bit of gold from a solid income.

I do believe that G-Tech has a significantly better grasp on how Factions usually play out. Early game is spent gaining allies and developing your characters before all hell breaks loose as people begin to spam train as their levies mobilize and castles are besieged XD

[Second Helghan Empire]

Behold House Harlaw! As canonical as possible while remaining within the rules! HAHAHA it took me days and way too many stupid questions but here it is!




House: House Harlaw
Leader: Lord Theomore Harlaw
Religion: Officially the Faith of the Seven, Unofficially they emphasize on the drowned god.

Brief Description of Diplomatic Relations: House Harlaw has nigh full reign over the Island of Harlaw and are one of the most powerful houses in the Iron Islands

Military State of Readiness: Ironborn always have a sizeable standing force for raiding and war. A strong Emphasis on infantry and naval power is prominent.

History:Legend Has it that like the other Ironborn, those of House Harlaw were not of the first men who conquered Westeros long ago but were formed by the drowned god in his image. Whether this is true or not is yet to be proven, not that it matters as in either situation it only helps to prove the ancient existence of the house of Harlaw.

Now divided into several cadet branches beneath the Harlaws of the Ten Towers, which remain the largest and wealthiest branch, the Harlaws rule their Island which bears their name. House Harlaw has 5 branches. Those of the Harlaws of the Ten Towers have been among the wealthiest and most powerful houses in the Iron Islands for centuries. Having split over the centuries to include the Harlaws of the Grey Garden, the Harlaws of Harridan Hill, The Harlaws of the Glimmering Tower, and following the move to Theomore's new Castle the Ten Towers, the Harlaws of Harlaw Hall were born. However currently as the Harlaws of the majority of these places are only stewards and not lords House Harlaw remains united, largely in a dysfunctional way.

Theomore's Branch of the family holds the most power and there for his heirs are the heirs to the Harlaw house as a whole and thus the island. Harlaw is the richest Island among the Iron Islands (Check asoiaf wiki if you don't believe me.) The Islands largest city is Harlaw, and while wealthier in trade Harlaw is the Second most important urban complex on the islands, directly behind the castle of Pyke.

Each of the Cadet branches was formed by Theomore's brothers. Now the last of his generation of Harlaws Theomore is not long for this world. His brothers having all died their sons took the stewardship of different Harlaw castles and towns. In the case of Harlaw Hall however they attempted to stop supplying the house with troops and supplies. Theomore's response was swift and bitter. Most of the House was killed, down to the third oldest son. This son Alran Harlaw, Theomor's great nephew, lived only to 37, dying of Greyscale. His Wife also died and the pair had only one child. Alessa Harlaw is to marry her third cousin, Darne Harlaw the youngest son to the Man Harlaw familial Branch.

Exceptions to this rule are the Harlaws of Glimmering Tower and Harridan Hill. They Have been made full cadet branches of the Harlaws and thus essentially vassals.

While Theomore remains lord of the Harlaws, in truth he has no power. His eldest son Karden rules from the City of Harlaw, his younger brother Anthor awaits the death of his father to become the steward of the Ten Towers. Karden is vastly different than his father. Karden is among those who now despise the House of Hoare. Supporting either himself or a lord of the Greyjoys as King. This is unsurprising, the Harlaws and Greyjoys have been close allies since the death of the Grey King.

The Harlaws now work to continue to increase it's strength. Hard work and determination are what have given the Harlaws their current power. It shall be what increases it further as well. That and a vast supply of children every generation.

Castles, Cities, and Infrastructure:
Led by Karden Harlaw, Harlaw: average City, tradepost
Industry: weapon/armor smith, fisherman

Stewarded by Anthor Harlaw, The Ten Towers: Average Castle, average town, fishery, port

Stewarded by Culler Harlaw the Grey Garden: keep with average town,

Stewarded by Alessa Harlaw Harlaw Hall: keep,


Cadet Houses:

Stewarded by Rydan Harlaw Harridan Hill: Small Castle with large village
Stewarded by Aidin Harlaw Glimmering Tower: Small Castle with large village

Vassals of Note:

House Kenning of Kayce: Small Castle small town, Kayce (It’s actually in the riverlands! Built by the kennings before being crushed by the Harlaws)

House Kenning of Harlaw: village, Kenston

House Myre: keep, Myre,
village, Myreburg
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House Members:

The only one that is canon at this time is Theomore however he has several children and grandchildren, as he is now about 73.

Karden Harlaw, heir to the Ten towers, 45, Average height, dark haired, dark eyes, muscular, thin beard with silvery hair interspersed with black.
Anthor Harlaw, son of Theomore steward to Harlaw City, 43, Average height, Dark hair long, pale stone color eyes, thick long black and silver beard.
Helna Harlaw, wife of Karden, 38, like most ironborn women she also knows how to fight and has the right to lead men into battle, she is hardy with dull blonde hair and pale grey eyes.
Natari Harlaw, wife of Anthor, 38, A wicked scar across her lips, she is pale with intense green eyes like her aunt, Helna's mother. The same dull blonde hair and hardy build.

Karden's Children:
Alira 21, widowed, formerly married to Jud Kenning, unlike her mother she is considered frail and beautiful, Sea green eyes along with soft pale features and jet black hair. She often proves others wrong by her actions, about both her frailty and beauty. She hates her mother who mistreats her for her beauty.
Desmor 20,one of three triplet sons born to Karden, Green Eyes, pale skin lean muscles and black hair, he is considered very comely and an adept warrior.
Koryn 20,^^ The same as his brother,
Erac 20, ^^ The same as his brother,
Alise 15, daughter, Already sought after by the other lords of the Iron Islands she is beautiful like her sister. Green Eyes and pale skin with soft features, she is a very talented singer and often sits beside her mother and father and sing. Her Mother rarely speaks to her.
Darne 12, son, Looking almost like a younger copy of the triplets he is always encouraged by his brothers and father often accompanying them when visiting Ten towers.

Anthor's Children:
Conin 19, son, Black hair and green eyes, Conin has spent time in the Riverlands. He was among those sent to aide House Hoare in their endless wars in the mainland. Conin only led a group of 20 Reavers their his family refusing to send more, saying they had lost their ships, in truth they have dismantled them until the time comes to need them to aide house Harlaw.
Ellion 18, son, Unlike his elder brother Ellion has the dull hair and eyes of his Grandfather
Brealla 16, daughter twin of twin of Salna, Brealla and Salna share the dark hair and green eys of their mother.
Salna 16, daughter twin of Brealla
Keat 14, son Sickly and rarely seen by anyone but his parents Keat is not expected to amount to much, however it is said he is growing healthier every day and perhaps will soon be venturing out of the castle, others say he is scarred and monster like and that his father has him locked away in one of the Ten Towers.

Alira's Children
Dovan Kenning 5, son Already Showing the Black hair and green eyes of their mother the sons of Alira are considered Handsome boys. However they are also considered problems as they represent the first marriage of Alira's whose husband died shortly after Bracks birth under mysterious circumstances.
Bracks Kenning 4, son

Culler Harlaw 47, Steward of the Grey Garden, nephew of Theomore, Culler reflects the dull hair and grey eyes of his uncle.
Teya Harlaw 36, Wife of Culler, Brilliant blonde hair and blue eyes, Teya is originally from the riverlands and so stands out from most Ironborn women.
Sava Harlaw 16, daughter, Dirty Blondy Hair and blue eyes
Brodin Harlaw 9, son

Aidin Harlaw 41, Steward of the Glimmering tower, Nephew of Theomore, Red headed and stony eyed he is a sad man with scars across the whole of his body and face.
Landar Harlaw 21, son, Landar has the red hair of his father and the bright blue eyes of his mother he has been to the mainland twice, both times to the same fishing village, both times he returned with women and loot, but he has never met a worthy opponent and craves the day he does.
Channer Harlaw 13, son, glorifies his brother and father, and already has gone to sea with the reavers

Alessa Harlaw 13, Steward of Harlaw hall, great-great niece of Theomore Harlaw, long Red hair, piercing blue eyes and pale skin she is considered one of the most beautiful ladies on Harlaw Island, making her story even more sad.
Katryna Harlaw 11, younger sister of Alessa, just a youger version of her sister, she will undoubtedly be used to politically maneuver the Harlaw house.

Rydan Harlaw 27, Steward of Harridan Hill, Great Nephew of Theomore, One of the Two Cadet Branches considered their own house, Rydan has proven himself a strong warrior when fighting the Harlaw Hall rebellion. He was also sent with his cousin Conin's force and is a great fighter. Jet Black Hair and bright blue eyes
Ayleen Harlaw 20, Sister of Rydan, She has taken part in a raid on the Shield Islands before and has a long scar along the back to prove it. However she is a beautiful yet somewhat intimidating woman with eyes and hair matching her brother.
Dran Harlaw 14, Brother of Rydan, Dran is the opposite of the stereotypical Ironborn, much to the rest of the Harlaw's dismay. The young man is scholarly and intelligent. However he has also proven time and time again in fights with his cousins he is not to be trifled with.
Kayl Harlaw 9, Brother of Rydan, Kayl is still too young to have found his way, however he is largely considered an odd boy, rumors have circulated he has connections to the drowned god in more than worship of him.

Military: 5 town guard in Harlaw, 4 long ships in ten towers, 2 Reavers/Men at arms one in Harlaw Hall and one in ten towers, 1 archers in grey garden, 1 merchant ship in ten towers

Finances:
Left over starting gold: 15
Income:245
Vassals:7
Deductions:133
Finances:119 per month


RP Example:



S13 - Do Not Remove

Gonna need to reduce the number of towns. The Iron Islands won't be able to support so many of them. I know Harlaw controls almost everything on the Island of Harlaw, so lets just reduce them to Large Villages and small towns. House Kenning of Kayce is a vassal of the Lannisters. Aside from that It looks good to me.

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Good news (or bad depending on how you see it), I have the extremely baseline dragon mechanics system worked out. As well as a couple other things that need to go into the OP military unit-wise.

I must say the Harlaws don't almost control all of Harlaw, they do control all of Harlaw. I will bump the Harridan Hill and Glimmering tower down to large villages. Also RP example coming I somehow missed that.

[Relikai]

If my calculations are right, A&B should not have spent his money on Vassal Military. His direct standing army cost only 10gold more than Reach's.

I've been building mine up though; his has been there from the get-go. Makes all the difference, really, stunting your revenue stream versus siphoning off a bit of gold from a solid income.

As in, doing what you did would be the logical first step but.

I dont think A&B's supposed to pay for his vassal armies in the first place! All the gold meant for holdings went to aid NPCs who have their own guards.

[Relikai]

I've been building mine up though; his has been there from the get-go. Makes all the difference, really, stunting your revenue stream versus siphoning off a bit of gold from a solid income.

I do believe that G-Tech has a significantly better grasp on how Factions usually play out. Early game is spent gaining allies and developing your characters before all hell breaks loose as people begin to spam train as their levies mobilize and castles are besieged XD

You do know that when the time comes to spam train, he has all the advantage already? xD

[The Flame Dawn]

I do believe that G-Tech has a significantly better grasp on how Factions usually play out. Early game is spent gaining allies and developing your characters before all hell breaks loose as people begin to spam train as their levies mobilize and castles are besieged XD

You do know that when the time comes to spam train, he has all the advantage already? xD

Meh, I've always invested in defenses and infrastructure beforehand so I'm able to take a couple beating while my numbers swell XD

[Second Helghan Empire]

Behold House Harlaw! As canonical as possible while remaining within the rules! HAHAHA it took me days and way too many stupid questions but here it is!




House: House Harlaw
Leader: Lord Theomore Harlaw
Religion: Officially the Faith of the Seven, Unofficially they emphasize on the drowned god.

Brief Description of Diplomatic Relations: House Harlaw has nigh full reign over the Island of Harlaw and are one of the most powerful houses in the Iron Islands

Military State of Readiness: Ironborn always have a sizeable standing force for raiding and war. A strong Emphasis on infantry and naval power is prominent.

History:Legend Has it that like the other Ironborn, those of House Harlaw were not of the first men who conquered Westeros long ago but were formed by the drowned god in his image. Whether this is true or not is yet to be proven, not that it matters as in either situation it only helps to prove the ancient existence of the house of Harlaw.

Now divided into several cadet branches beneath the Harlaws of the Ten Towers, which remain the largest and wealthiest branch, the Harlaws rule their Island which bears their name. House Harlaw has 5 branches. Those of the Harlaws of the Ten Towers have been among the wealthiest and most powerful houses in the Iron Islands for centuries. Having split over the centuries to include the Harlaws of the Grey Garden, the Harlaws of Harridan Hill, The Harlaws of the Glimmering Tower, and following the move to Theomore's new Castle the Ten Towers, the Harlaws of Harlaw Hall were born. However currently as the Harlaws of the majority of these places are only stewards and not lords House Harlaw remains united, largely in a dysfunctional way.

Theomore's Branch of the family holds the most power and there for his heirs are the heirs to the Harlaw house as a whole and thus the island. Harlaw is the richest Island among the Iron Islands (Check asoiaf wiki if you don't believe me.) The Islands largest city is Harlaw, and while wealthier in trade Harlaw is the Second most important urban complex on the islands, directly behind the castle of Pyke.

Each of the Cadet branches was formed by Theomore's brothers. Now the last of his generation of Harlaws Theomore is not long for this world. His brothers having all died their sons took the stewardship of different Harlaw castles and towns. In the case of Harlaw Hall however they attempted to stop supplying the house with troops and supplies. Theomore's response was swift and bitter. Most of the House was killed, down to the third oldest son. This son Alran Harlaw, Theomor's great nephew, lived only to 37, dying of Greyscale. His Wife also died and the pair had only one child. Alessa Harlaw is to marry her third cousin, Darne Harlaw the youngest son to the Man Harlaw familial Branch.

Exceptions to this rule are the Harlaws of Glimmering Tower and Harridan Hill. They Have been made full cadet branches of the Harlaws and thus essentially vassals.

While Theomore remains lord of the Harlaws, in truth he has no power. His eldest son Karden rules from the City of Harlaw, his younger brother Anthor awaits the death of his father to become the steward of the Ten Towers. Karden is vastly different than his father. Karden is among those who now despise the House of Hoare. Supporting either himself or a lord of the Greyjoys as King. This is unsurprising, the Harlaws and Greyjoys have been close allies since the death of the Grey King.

The Harlaws now work to continue to increase it's strength. Hard work and determination are what have given the Harlaws their current power. It shall be what increases it further as well. That and a vast supply of children every generation.

Castles, Cities, and Infrastructure:
Led by Karden Harlaw, Harlaw: average City, tradepost
Industry: weapon/armor smith, fisherman

Stewarded by Anthor Harlaw, The Ten Towers: Average Castle, average town, fishery, port

Stewarded by Culler Harlaw the Grey Garden: keep with average town,

Stewarded by Alessa Harlaw Harlaw Hall: keep,


Cadet Houses:

Stewarded by Rydan Harlaw Harridan Hill: Small Castle with small village village
Stewarded by Aidin Harlaw Glimmering Tower: Small Castle with large village

Vassals of Note:

House Kenning of Harlaw: village, Kenston

House Myre: keep, Myre,
village, Myreburg

House Stonetree: Keep, Stonetree
Village, Stonetree

House Volmark: Keep, Volmark, small village around keep also called Volmark
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House Members:

The only one that is canon at this time is Theomore however he has several children and grandchildren, as he is now about 73.

Karden Harlaw, heir to the Ten towers, 45, Average height, dark haired, dark eyes, muscular, thin beard with silvery hair interspersed with black.
Anthor Harlaw, son of Theomore steward to Harlaw City, 43, Average height, Dark hair long, pale stone color eyes, thick long black and silver beard.
Helna Harlaw, wife of Karden, 38, like most ironborn women she also knows how to fight and has the right to lead men into battle, she is hardy with dull blonde hair and pale grey eyes.
Natari Harlaw, wife of Anthor, 38, A wicked scar across her lips, she is pale with intense green eyes like her aunt, Helna's mother. The same dull blonde hair and hardy build.

Karden's Children:
Alira 21, widowed, formerly married to Jud Kenning, unlike her mother she is considered frail and beautiful, Sea green eyes along with soft pale features and jet black hair. She often proves others wrong by her actions, about both her frailty and beauty. She hates her mother who mistreats her for her beauty.
Desmor 20,one of three triplet sons born to Karden, Green Eyes, pale skin lean muscles and black hair, he is considered very comely and an adept warrior.
Koryn 20,^^ The same as his brother,
Erac 20, ^^ The same as his brother,
Alise 15, daughter, Already sought after by the other lords of the Iron Islands she is beautiful like her sister. Green Eyes and pale skin with soft features, she is a very talented singer and often sits beside her mother and father and sing. Her Mother rarely speaks to her.
Darne 12, son, Looking almost like a younger copy of the triplets he is always encouraged by his brothers and father often accompanying them when visiting Ten towers.

Anthor's Children:
Conin 19, son, Black hair and green eyes, Conin has spent time in the Riverlands. He was among those sent to aide House Hoare in their endless wars in the mainland. Conin only led a group of 20 Reavers their his family refusing to send more, saying they had lost their ships, in truth they have dismantled them until the time comes to need them to aide house Harlaw.
Ellion 18, son, Unlike his elder brother Ellion has the dull hair and eyes of his Grandfather
Brealla 16, daughter twin of twin of Salna, Brealla and Salna share the dark hair and green eys of their mother.
Salna 16, daughter twin of Brealla
Keat 14, son Sickly and rarely seen by anyone but his parents Keat is not expected to amount to much, however it is said he is growing healthier every day and perhaps will soon be venturing out of the castle, others say he is scarred and monster like and that his father has him locked away in one of the Ten Towers.

Alira's Children
Dovan Kenning 5, son Already Showing the Black hair and green eyes of their mother the sons of Alira are considered Handsome boys. However they are also considered problems as they represent the first marriage of Alira's whose husband died shortly after Bracks birth under mysterious circumstances.
Bracks Kenning 4, son

Culler Harlaw 47, Steward of the Grey Garden, nephew of Theomore, Culler reflects the dull hair and grey eyes of his uncle.
Teya Harlaw 36, Wife of Culler, Brilliant blonde hair and blue eyes, Teya is originally from the riverlands and so stands out from most Ironborn women.
Sava Harlaw 16, daughter, Dirty Blondy Hair and blue eyes
Brodin Harlaw 9, son

Aidin Harlaw 41, Steward of the Glimmering tower, Nephew of Theomore, Red headed and stony eyed he is a sad man with scars across the whole of his body and face.
Landar Harlaw 21, son, Landar has the red hair of his father and the bright blue eyes of his mother he has been to the mainland twice, both times to the same fishing village, both times he returned with women and loot, but he has never met a worthy opponent and craves the day he does.
Channer Harlaw 13, son, glorifies his brother and father, and already has gone to sea with the reavers

Alessa Harlaw 13, Steward of Harlaw hall, great-great niece of Theomore Harlaw, long Red hair, piercing blue eyes and pale skin she is considered one of the most beautiful ladies on Harlaw Island, making her story even more sad.
Katryna Harlaw 11, younger sister of Alessa, just a youger version of her sister, she will undoubtedly be used to politically maneuver the Harlaw house.

Rydan Harlaw 27, Steward of Harridan Hill, Great Nephew of Theomore, One of the Two Cadet Branches considered their own house, Rydan has proven himself a strong warrior when fighting the Harlaw Hall rebellion. He was also sent with his cousin Conin's force and is a great fighter. Jet Black Hair and bright blue eyes
Ayleen Harlaw 20, Sister of Rydan, She has taken part in a raid on the Shield Islands before and has a long scar along the back to prove it. However she is a beautiful yet somewhat intimidating woman with eyes and hair matching her brother.
Dran Harlaw 14, Brother of Rydan, Dran is the opposite of the stereotypical Ironborn, much to the rest of the Harlaw's dismay. The young man is scholarly and intelligent. However he has also proven time and time again in fights with his cousins he is not to be trifled with.
Kayl Harlaw 9, Brother of Rydan, Kayl is still too young to have found his way, however he is largely considered an odd boy, rumors have circulated he has connections to the drowned god in more than worship of him.

Military: 5 town guard in Harlaw, 4 long ships in ten towers, 2 Reavers/Men at arms one in Harlaw Hall and one in ten towers, 1 archers in grey garden, 1 merchant ship in ten towers

Finances:
Left over starting gold: 15
Income:245
Vassals:10
Deductions:133
Finances:122 per month


RP Example:
New Ausozera, 1855 alternate divergence, 1850 Alternate divergence,

sorry my phone is being stupid other wise i would link you.


S13 - Do Not Remove

[G-Tech Corporation]

I've been building mine up though; his has been there from the get-go. Makes all the difference, really, stunting your revenue stream versus siphoning off a bit of gold from a solid income.

As in, doing what you did would be the logical first step but.

I dont think A&B's supposed to pay for his vassal armies in the first place! All the gold meant for holdings went to aid NPCs who have their own guards.

Well, nominally NPCs only have levy troops. I've sent soldiers to raid the Marches despite House Tarly being there, for instance. If A+B wanted to secure his borders, Royal professionals are the best way to do that aside from calling up levies. And he's next to the Ironborn, which are snarky folks.

[Relikai]

As in, doing what you did would be the logical first step but.

I dont think A&B's supposed to pay for his vassal armies in the first place! All the gold meant for holdings went to aid NPCs who have their own guards.

Well, nominally NPCs only have levy troops. I've sent soldiers to raid the Marches despite House Tarly being there, for instance. If A+B wanted to secure his borders, Royal professionals are the best way to do that aside from calling up levies. And he's next to the Ironborn, which are snarky folks.

Then I dont think you can blame him for needing to RP what a King would do instead of having a token military knowing that no one has the capability to launch early attack in the RP.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well, nominally NPCs only have levy troops. I've sent soldiers to raid the Marches despite House Tarly being there, for instance. If A+B wanted to secure his borders, Royal professionals are the best way to do that aside from calling up levies. And he's next to the Ironborn, which are snarky folks.

Then I dont think you can blame him for needing to RP what a King would do instead of having a token military knowing that no one has the capability to launch early attack in the RP.

Hm? It's perfectly his choice to use professional troops - I would just raise levies of it came to war. That's what they're there for.

[Relikai]

It is one of the smaller regions of the Seven Kingdoms, but is immensely rich in natural resources, particularly metals. Predominantly mountainous, the hills of the Westerlands are riddled with veins of gold and silver, the mining of which has made the Lannisters and their bannermen immensely rich. While the Lannister armies are not as huge as those of the Reach, they are the best-equipped in the realm, with heavily-armored soldiers and cavalry.

The westerlands are not the largest, most populous, or most fertile part of the realm, but they are the richest. Full of hills and crags, the land is dotted with mines from which pour gold and silver in astonishing quantities. There are gold mines at Casterly Rock, the Golden Tooth, Castamere, Nunn's Deep, and the Pendric Hills. According to semi-canon sources, there are settlements which become ghost towns once nearby mines stop producing ore.[8] Besides farming, there is also some fishery in Lannisport and on Fair Isle.

If the Westerlands arent shitting gold then they're peeing silver.

[The Flame Dawn]

Do they sweat gemstones too?

[Nuxipal]

Behold House Harlaw! As canonical as possible while remaining within the rules! HAHAHA it took me days and way too many stupid questions but here it is!




House: House Harlaw
Leader: Lord Theomore Harlaw
Religion: Officially the Faith of the Seven, Unofficially they emphasize on the drowned god.

Brief Description of Diplomatic Relations: House Harlaw has nigh full reign over the Island of Harlaw and are one of the most powerful houses in the Iron Islands

Military State of Readiness: Ironborn always have a sizeable standing force for raiding and war. A strong Emphasis on infantry and naval power is prominent.

History:Legend Has it that like the other Ironborn, those of House Harlaw were not of the first men who conquered Westeros long ago but were formed by the drowned god in his image. Whether this is true or not is yet to be proven, not that it matters as in either situation it only helps to prove the ancient existence of the house of Harlaw.

Now divided into several cadet branches beneath the Harlaws of the Ten Towers, which remain the largest and wealthiest branch, the Harlaws rule their Island which bears their name. House Harlaw has 5 branches. Those of the Harlaws of the Ten Towers have been among the wealthiest and most powerful houses in the Iron Islands for centuries. Having split over the centuries to include the Harlaws of the Grey Garden, the Harlaws of Harridan Hill, The Harlaws of the Glimmering Tower, and following the move to Theomore's new Castle the Ten Towers, the Harlaws of Harlaw Hall were born. However currently as the Harlaws of the majority of these places are only stewards and not lords House Harlaw remains united, largely in a dysfunctional way.

Theomore's Branch of the family holds the most power and there for his heirs are the heirs to the Harlaw house as a whole and thus the island. Harlaw is the richest Island among the Iron Islands (Check asoiaf wiki if you don't believe me.) The Islands largest city is Harlaw, and while wealthier in trade Harlaw is the Second most important urban complex on the islands, directly behind the castle of Pyke.

Each of the Cadet branches was formed by Theomore's brothers. Now the last of his generation of Harlaws Theomore is not long for this world. His brothers having all died their sons took the stewardship of different Harlaw castles and towns. In the case of Harlaw Hall however they attempted to stop supplying the house with troops and supplies. Theomore's response was swift and bitter. Most of the House was killed, down to the third oldest son. This son Alran Harlaw, Theomor's great nephew, lived only to 37, dying of Greyscale. His Wife also died and the pair had only one child. Alessa Harlaw is to marry her third cousin, Darne Harlaw the youngest son to the Man Harlaw familial Branch.

Exceptions to this rule are the Harlaws of Glimmering Tower and Harridan Hill. They Have been made full cadet branches of the Harlaws and thus essentially vassals.

While Theomore remains lord of the Harlaws, in truth he has no power. His eldest son Karden rules from the City of Harlaw, his younger brother Anthor awaits the death of his father to become the steward of the Ten Towers. Karden is vastly different than his father. Karden is among those who now despise the House of Hoare. Supporting either himself or a lord of the Greyjoys as King. This is unsurprising, the Harlaws and Greyjoys have been close allies since the death of the Grey King.

The Harlaws now work to continue to increase it's strength. Hard work and determination are what have given the Harlaws their current power. It shall be what increases it further as well. That and a vast supply of children every generation.

Castles, Cities, and Infrastructure:
Led by Karden Harlaw, Harlaw: average City, tradepost
Industry: weapon/armor smith, fisherman

Stewarded by Anthor Harlaw, The Ten Towers: Average Castle, average town, fishery, port

Stewarded by Culler Harlaw the Grey Garden: keep with average town,

Stewarded by Alessa Harlaw Harlaw Hall: keep,


Cadet Houses:

Stewarded by Rydan Harlaw Harridan Hill: Small Castle with small village village
Stewarded by Aidin Harlaw Glimmering Tower: Small Castle with large village

Vassals of Note:

House Kenning of Harlaw: village, Kenston

House Myre: keep, Myre,
village, Myreburg
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House Members:

The only one that is canon at this time is Theomore however he has several children and grandchildren, as he is now about 73.

Karden Harlaw, heir to the Ten towers, 45, Average height, dark haired, dark eyes, muscular, thin beard with silvery hair interspersed with black.
Anthor Harlaw, son of Theomore steward to Harlaw City, 43, Average height, Dark hair long, pale stone color eyes, thick long black and silver beard.
Helna Harlaw, wife of Karden, 38, like most ironborn women she also knows how to fight and has the right to lead men into battle, she is hardy with dull blonde hair and pale grey eyes.
Natari Harlaw, wife of Anthor, 38, A wicked scar across her lips, she is pale with intense green eyes like her aunt, Helna's mother. The same dull blonde hair and hardy build.

Karden's Children:
Alira 21, widowed, formerly married to Jud Kenning, unlike her mother she is considered frail and beautiful, Sea green eyes along with soft pale features and jet black hair. She often proves others wrong by her actions, about both her frailty and beauty. She hates her mother who mistreats her for her beauty.
Desmor 20,one of three triplet sons born to Karden, Green Eyes, pale skin lean muscles and black hair, he is considered very comely and an adept warrior.
Koryn 20,^^ The same as his brother,
Erac 20, ^^ The same as his brother,
Alise 15, daughter, Already sought after by the other lords of the Iron Islands she is beautiful like her sister. Green Eyes and pale skin with soft features, she is a very talented singer and often sits beside her mother and father and sing. Her Mother rarely speaks to her.
Darne 12, son, Looking almost like a younger copy of the triplets he is always encouraged by his brothers and father often accompanying them when visiting Ten towers.

Anthor's Children:
Conin 19, son, Black hair and green eyes, Conin has spent time in the Riverlands. He was among those sent to aide House Hoare in their endless wars in the mainland. Conin only led a group of 20 Reavers their his family refusing to send more, saying they had lost their ships, in truth they have dismantled them until the time comes to need them to aide house Harlaw.
Ellion 18, son, Unlike his elder brother Ellion has the dull hair and eyes of his Grandfather
Brealla 16, daughter twin of twin of Salna, Brealla and Salna share the dark hair and green eys of their mother.
Salna 16, daughter twin of Brealla
Keat 14, son Sickly and rarely seen by anyone but his parents Keat is not expected to amount to much, however it is said he is growing healthier every day and perhaps will soon be venturing out of the castle, others say he is scarred and monster like and that his father has him locked away in one of the Ten Towers.

Alira's Children
Dovan Kenning 5, son Already Showing the Black hair and green eyes of their mother the sons of Alira are considered Handsome boys. However they are also considered problems as they represent the first marriage of Alira's whose husband died shortly after Bracks birth under mysterious circumstances.
Bracks Kenning 4, son

Culler Harlaw 47, Steward of the Grey Garden, nephew of Theomore, Culler reflects the dull hair and grey eyes of his uncle.
Teya Harlaw 36, Wife of Culler, Brilliant blonde hair and blue eyes, Teya is originally from the riverlands and so stands out from most Ironborn women.
Sava Harlaw 16, daughter, Dirty Blondy Hair and blue eyes
Brodin Harlaw 9, son

Aidin Harlaw 41, Steward of the Glimmering tower, Nephew of Theomore, Red headed and stony eyed he is a sad man with scars across the whole of his body and face.
Landar Harlaw 21, son, Landar has the red hair of his father and the bright blue eyes of his mother he has been to the mainland twice, both times to the same fishing village, both times he returned with women and loot, but he has never met a worthy opponent and craves the day he does.
Channer Harlaw 13, son, glorifies his brother and father, and already has gone to sea with the reavers

Alessa Harlaw 13, Steward of Harlaw hall, great-great niece of Theomore Harlaw, long Red hair, piercing blue eyes and pale skin she is considered one of the most beautiful ladies on Harlaw Island, making her story even more sad.
Katryna Harlaw 11, younger sister of Alessa, just a youger version of her sister, she will undoubtedly be used to politically maneuver the Harlaw house.

Rydan Harlaw 27, Steward of Harridan Hill, Great Nephew of Theomore, One of the Two Cadet Branches considered their own house, Rydan has proven himself a strong warrior when fighting the Harlaw Hall rebellion. He was also sent with his cousin Conin's force and is a great fighter. Jet Black Hair and bright blue eyes
Ayleen Harlaw 20, Sister of Rydan, She has taken part in a raid on the Shield Islands before and has a long scar along the back to prove it. However she is a beautiful yet somewhat intimidating woman with eyes and hair matching her brother.
Dran Harlaw 14, Brother of Rydan, Dran is the opposite of the stereotypical Ironborn, much to the rest of the Harlaw's dismay. The young man is scholarly and intelligent. However he has also proven time and time again in fights with his cousins he is not to be trifled with.
Kayl Harlaw 9, Brother of Rydan, Kayl is still too young to have found his way, however he is largely considered an odd boy, rumors have circulated he has connections to the drowned god in more than worship of him.

Military: 5 town guard in Harlaw, 4 long ships in ten towers, 2 Reavers/Men at arms one in Harlaw Hall and one in ten towers, 1 archers in grey garden, 1 merchant ship in ten towers

Finances:
Left over starting gold: 15
Income:245
Vassals:7
Deductions:133
Finances:119 per month


RP Example:
New Ausozera, 1855 alternate divergence, 1850 Alternate divergence,

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S13 - Do Not Remove

Accepted.

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I'm addressing some economic issues right now. I have a base of how the Dragons work, and the Lannister bonus added back in. I still have other bonuses to write up. Suggestions for Targaryen bonus would be appreciated.

[Nuxipal]

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[The Flame Dawn]

By month 4 the food requirement will be added to prevent spamming.


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SO how does food work again?

[Second Helghan Empire]

Accepted.

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I'm addressing some economic issues right now. I have a base of how the Dragons work, and the Lannister bonus added back in. I still have other bonuses to write up. Suggestions for Targaryen bonus would be appreciated.

YEY

Also my first IC post will be inviting people to a contest of skill for the hand of the daughter of Lord harlaw, Alira, This will take place after the tournaments currently being held in westeros, and will consist of a swimming of race, a foot race, a wrestling contest, and a free for all duel of arms with blunted weapons. Alira will be able to pick from the winner, and top three runner ups. This will be open to any man of noble birth of any house of any land.

[Second Helghan Empire]

By month 4 the food requirement will be added to prevent spamming.


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Hey I know that it isn't my place, but what about the nations who can't have farms or are limited to only one food source like DOrne?

Not really me cause I can have soooo many fisheries.

[Kanilion]

By month 4 the food requirement will be added to prevent spamming.


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Hey I know that it isn't my place, but what about the nations who can't have farms or are limited to only one food source like DOrne?

Not really me cause I can have soooo many fisheries.

There are pastorals now

[G-Tech Corporation]

By month 4 the food requirement will be added to prevent spamming.


Edit: Additionally, any new requirements placed by updates need to be met by month 4 as well.

Hey I know that it isn't my place, but what about the nations who can't have farms or are limited to only one food source like DOrne?

Not really me cause I can have soooo many fisheries.

Pastoral Estates were recently added to aid food production in more marginal areas like Dorne or the North.