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Second Helghan Empire
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:11 am

Stolen Idol wrote:Looking up vassals and how they work. History says it was depended by the land's religion and culture. Some leaning towards favoring your lord and the other your family.
So, I guess that supports that realistic depending on the land and culture. You could expect your kin house to favor you.

Though, I still think it's completely fair to have vassals.
Here is what I suggest. That you only gain taxes and control soldiers if they led by your house. You can move your house members to claim taxes.
Even build on to the vassal lands. As long as someone is there.

Though a house would never be sending it's ten year daughter to go collect taxes.
So, we should be able to have loyal servants to the house like sworn swords.
To serve in place of our lords.


I think that could be cool. It would definiyely add another element to the game for more powerdul noble houses and give a reason marry younger choldren into minor houses to gain more people to send around to do this.
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Relikai
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Relikai » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:18 am

Any more mechanics especially with countless unconfirmed NPCs and it'll be more number crunching than an actual RP lol
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The Flame Dawn
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:27 am

Relikai wrote:Any more mechanics especially with countless unconfirmed NPCs and it'll be more number crunching than an actual RP lol


Well I've always been a fan of the numbers :lol:
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Second Helghan Empire
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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:31 am

The Flame Dawn wrote:
Relikai wrote:Any more mechanics especially with countless unconfirmed NPCs and it'll be more number crunching than an actual RP lol


Well I've always been a fan of the numbers :lol:


Not sureif you if you are being sarcastic buy I do like rhe numbers part. Especially in app making.
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The Flame Dawn
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:32 am

Second Helghan Empire wrote:
The Flame Dawn wrote:
Well I've always been a fan of the numbers :lol:


Not sureif you if you are being sarcastic buy I do like rhe numbers part. Especially in app making.


I'm serious XD

Part of the reason why I felt somewhat comfortable coming into this RP with no prior knowledge on the universe :lol:
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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:40 am

If anyone is interested, I believe the Redwynes are open.

As far as building on the land of vassals- eh, I kind of get it, but at the same time there doesn't seem to be much point. Say you build a farm using royal funds on the lands of one of your vassals. It doesn't actually benefit you as liege, since the only thing it contributes is money to your vassal's coffers. Even if you tax a tithe (probably a reasonable amount to avoid rebellions) you're making one more gold a month for an outlay of forty.
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Stolen Idol
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Postby Stolen Idol » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:43 am

Nah, because I meant if you keep a lord at a vassal's holding. They pay like their income, because your like micromanaging

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Relikai
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Postby Relikai » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:47 am

I'm playing vassals like the Crusader Kings 2 kind of vassalage, holdings which you have control over are directly controlled by you, vassals mind their own buildings and pay their tithe. You can build for them, but you are building for them after all. Whatever profits come still come from the tithe of their income.
Russia's an idiot. So is the US, and quite a few of the western sphere. Population education and literacy is your issue, not the politics of foreign nations.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:49 am

Stolen Idol wrote:Nah, because I meant if you keep a lord at a vassal's holding. They pay like their income, because your like micromanaging


Mm, I doubt that's how it would work. A vassal wouldn't just pay you every cent they make because you have a family member larking about nearby.

Relikai wrote:I'm playing vassals like the Crusader Kings 2 kind of vassalage, holdings which you have control over are directly controlled by you, vassals mind their own buildings and pay their tithe. You can build for them, but you are building for them after all. Whatever profits come still come from the tithe of their income.


Honestly, even a tithe is a bit unrealistic, but I talked it out with my vassals and they seemed alright with it.
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The Flame Dawn
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:51 am

Oh yeah... I do need to discuss payments with my vassals :lol:

I'll mention it during the Tourney or whatever, when I'm away from my seat of power and whatnot
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Relikai
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Postby Relikai » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:53 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Stolen Idol wrote:Nah, because I meant if you keep a lord at a vassal's holding. They pay like their income, because your like micromanaging


Mm, I doubt that's how it would work. A vassal wouldn't just pay you every cent they make because you have a family member larking about nearby.

Relikai wrote:I'm playing vassals like the Crusader Kings 2 kind of vassalage, holdings which you have control over are directly controlled by you, vassals mind their own buildings and pay their tithe. You can build for them, but you are building for them after all. Whatever profits come still come from the tithe of their income.


Honestly, even a tithe is a bit unrealistic, but I talked it out with my vassals and they seemed alright with it.


In actuality it's the Kings who have to keep their vassals appeased xD No king has absolute power and the nobles are the ones who control the core land they're given. Piss off enough vassals and they'll just challenge the King into a devastating civil war. Good luck solving that. Medieval England is a good example.
Russia's an idiot. So is the US, and quite a few of the western sphere. Population education and literacy is your issue, not the politics of foreign nations.
A deviant in the echochamber.

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:58 am

Relikai wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Mm, I doubt that's how it would work. A vassal wouldn't just pay you every cent they make because you have a family member larking about nearby.



Honestly, even a tithe is a bit unrealistic, but I talked it out with my vassals and they seemed alright with it.


In actuality it's the Kings who have to keep their vassals appeased xD No king has absolute power and the nobles are the ones who control the core land they're given. Piss off enough vassals and they'll just challenge the King into a devastating civil war. Good luck solving that. Medieval England is a good example.


Yeah, exactly why I talked to all my vassals as they were excepted to determine reasonable terms of fealty :P
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Relikai
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Postby Relikai » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:01 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Relikai wrote:
In actuality it's the Kings who have to keep their vassals appeased xD No king has absolute power and the nobles are the ones who control the core land they're given. Piss off enough vassals and they'll just challenge the King into a devastating civil war. Good luck solving that. Medieval England is a good example.


Yeah, exactly why I talked to all my vassals as they were excepted to determine reasonable terms of fealty :P


Well, my terms would be - all your bases are belong to me
Russia's an idiot. So is the US, and quite a few of the western sphere. Population education and literacy is your issue, not the politics of foreign nations.
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Nuxipal
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Nuxipal » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:18 am

Relikai wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Yeah, exactly why I talked to all my vassals as they were excepted to determine reasonable terms of fealty :P


Well, my terms would be - all your bases are belong to me


Unless you have Dragons. Dragons make things exponentially easier to control.
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Caermine
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Postby Caermine » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:33 am

As White Harbor is known for it's trade, I'd like special merchant ships as my house bonus.

-10 gold to build merchant ship
+1 gold/month when connected to a trade route
+1 gold/month for the house on the other side of the trade route

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Stolen Idol
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Postby Stolen Idol » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:39 am

My vassals is box stout. ID be happy to be granted a loyal Calvary unit. I make house stout my Knights.

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The Flame Dawn
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:59 am

Would it be okay if I slapped a woman into my family as my daughter?
Rest In Peace : Kumigawa
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Stolen Idol
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Postby Stolen Idol » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:02 am

The Flame Dawn wrote:Would it be okay if I slapped a woman into my family as my daughter?


You shouldn't hit women.

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The Flame Dawn
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:05 am

Stolen Idol wrote:
The Flame Dawn wrote:Would it be okay if I slapped a woman into my family as my daughter?


You shouldn't hit women.


*rewords stuff*

Wpuld it be okay if I add a female into my family at the last minute
Rest In Peace : Kumigawa
Krytonus wrote:"Oh, Honey Boo-Boo is a disease," he laughed.

New Strausberg wrote:
Prumia wrote:This is a horrible place to live! The mortals are doomed!

Not on my watch your anal virgitnty is safe with me!
Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
You are a: Socialist Humanist Liberal
Collectivism score: 67%
Authoritarianism score: 0%
Internationalism score: 0%
Tribalism score: -67%
Liberalism score: 33%

Hey everyone, we're looking for people who want to join Winterfell! A fun Anime, Game of Thrones, and Roleplay region.

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Stolen Idol
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Postby Stolen Idol » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:10 am

The Flame Dawn wrote:
Stolen Idol wrote:
You shouldn't hit women.


*rewords stuff*

Wpuld it be okay if I add a female into my family at the last minute

Wanna marry a lady of the barrows?
You can have full control of her in RP if you like.

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The Flame Dawn
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:10 am

Stolen Idol wrote:
The Flame Dawn wrote:
*rewords stuff*

Wpuld it be okay if I add a female into my family at the last minute

Wanna marry a lady of the barrows?
You can have full control of her in RP if you like.


I ment add a biologic daughter XD
Rest In Peace : Kumigawa
Krytonus wrote:"Oh, Honey Boo-Boo is a disease," he laughed.

New Strausberg wrote:
Prumia wrote:This is a horrible place to live! The mortals are doomed!

Not on my watch your anal virgitnty is safe with me!
Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
You are a: Socialist Humanist Liberal
Collectivism score: 67%
Authoritarianism score: 0%
Internationalism score: 0%
Tribalism score: -67%
Liberalism score: 33%

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Jade Confederacy
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Jade Confederacy » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:13 am

The Flame Dawn wrote:I ment add a biologic daughter XD

I dont think there is much of an issue. The RP hasnt really taken off yet and there wasnt a limit to the number of house members for the application. I had to tweak my app two times already after it was accepted due to changes with the upkeep and bonus mechanic

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Stolen Idol
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Postby Stolen Idol » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:14 am

The Flame Dawn wrote:
Stolen Idol wrote:Wanna marry a lady of the barrows?
You can have full control of her in RP if you like.


I ment add a biologic daughter XD

Ppffffft, meany

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The Flame Dawn
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:15 am

Stolen Idol wrote:
The Flame Dawn wrote:
I ment add a biologic daughter XD

Ppffffft, meany


Well I could happily marry XD
Rest In Peace : Kumigawa
Krytonus wrote:"Oh, Honey Boo-Boo is a disease," he laughed.

New Strausberg wrote:
Prumia wrote:This is a horrible place to live! The mortals are doomed!

Not on my watch your anal virgitnty is safe with me!
Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
You are a: Socialist Humanist Liberal
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Authoritarianism score: 0%
Internationalism score: 0%
Tribalism score: -67%
Liberalism score: 33%

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Arlye Austros
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Arlye Austros » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:57 am

So do I get to chose my House power? :P
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