Heartaches by the Number | Fallout NV RP | OOC/Still Open!

[Alouite]

Ok so, I do recall in the last incarnation of this rp, there was a discussion about bullet proof deathclaws.
Nar threw a fit about it and several people mentioned having been able to take them out in the games.

I feel I must point out that that was, "in the games", as in game mechanics.
The games would be no fun if you couldn't kill the things or if you had to constantly run away from them despite your skill level.
So the game mechanics allow you to slaughter them after a certain level.

Lore-wise there is no leveling up cause this isn't the video game so your stuck with whatever skills you got or can acquire without such silliness.
Secondly, lore-wise the deathclaws were created pre-war to battle the Chinese. I think its safe to assume, they weren't built to be killed with a single headshot.
And they can tear through pretty much anything short of having a tussle with a guy in power armor. I cant be certain but I think the lore stated they could tear through power armor too but I would imagine that would be more difficult cause power armor is meant to make the person basically a walking tank.
Thus I think its safe to assume that their skin should be considered on par with power armor or stronger.

Suffice to say, they are already bullet-proof lore wise. Assuming we are going by lore and not game mechanics which allow you to eventually kill anything that isn't a human child if you have leveled up enough.

That's ridiculous. You can't drape yourself with Deathclaw skin and have it be more effective than power armor.

It's not only ridiculous, it's annoying, why would the BoS wear power armor if they could've just gone hunting for Deathclaws and turned their hide into lighter weight armor? Its irritating you thought we'd accept that idea. The Death Claws are bullet resistant, not bullet proof which implies bullets can never penetrate them, and it is possible to kill them with most reasonable guns with enough hits on the body, especially head shots.

[Ameige]

So I take it the vipers and the viper leader that are camped out there have been wiped out?

To figure out where the Vipers are located look in the second post of the two part OP under mini-factions.

I checked. They aren't listed at the pit stop so I think its safe to assume they've been wiped out there. There is often between 5-7 there in the game.
Though Im not sure why anyone would want to try to take it over. Its not even a full building. Most of the front half is gone and if I remember correctly, it doesn't have a roof. Its just three walls and a pile of brick and a campfire and a couple sleeping mats that the vipers slept on and a couple small storage containers.

[Alouite]

To figure out where the Vipers are located look in the second post of the two part OP under mini-factions.

I checked. They aren't listed at the pit stop so I think its safe to assume they've been wiped out there. There is often between 5-7 there in the game.
Though Im not sure why anyone would want to try to take it over. Its not even a full building. Most of the front half is gone and if I remember correctly, it doesn't have a roof. Its just three walls and a pile of brick and a campfire and a couple sleeping mats that the vipers slept on and a couple small storage containers.

Hmm. What could people do if they wanted to set up somewhere and it didn't have a functional building and are well known for building tent-based military camps? I really don't know... Perhaps they pitch a tent or two? No that'd be to insane to do, who could possibly come up with an idea like that?

[Ameige]

That's ridiculous. You can't drape yourself with Deathclaw skin and have it be more effective than power armor.

It's not only ridiculous, it's annoying, why would the BoS wear power armor if they could've just gone hunting for Deathclaws and turned their hide into lighter weight armor? Its irritating you thought we'd accept that idea. The Death Claws are bullet resistant, not bullet proof which implies bullets can never penetrate them, and it is possible to kill them with most reasonable guns with enough hits on the body, especially head shots.

My apologizes, I meant bullet resistant then. Didn't realize there was a difference there. My point I was trying to make was that given that they are strong enough to tussle with power armor, they should be a lot more pain in the ass to kill realistically than people claim to have done in the game.

Sure maybe a barrage of bullets might take them down from multiple guns but one or two shots to the head?
I think someone in the last ooc mentioned a couple shots to the head with a pistol worked in the game when they were like level 50 or something.
That doesn't seem very likely lore-wise for a creature built to battle the Chinese and their big fancy assault rifles.

In the new vegas game you can find a pack of deathclaws on a small outcropping across the Colorado river with two power armored dead guys near them.
A brotherhood of steel soldier and an enclave soldier if memory serves.

Pretty sure that goes to show they can kick butt even when it comes to people in power armor.

So, while I am not claiming they are invincible, I am pointing out that if a small group of them can kill two guys in power armor,
a couple shots to the head with a pistol shouldn't effect them that much outside the game.

[Cainesland]

It's not only ridiculous, it's annoying, why would the BoS wear power armor if they could've just gone hunting for Deathclaws and turned their hide into lighter weight armor? Its irritating you thought we'd accept that idea. The Death Claws are bullet resistant, not bullet proof which implies bullets can never penetrate them, and it is possible to kill them with most reasonable guns with enough hits on the body, especially head shots.

My apologizes, I meant bullet resistant then. Didn't realize there was a difference there. My point I was trying to make was that given that they are strong enough to tussle with power armor, they should be a lot more pain in the ass to kill realistically than people claim to have done in the game.

Sure maybe a barrage of bullets might take them down from multiple guns but one or two shots to the head?
I think someone in the last ooc mentioned a couple shots to the head with a pistol worked in the game when they were like level 50 or something.
That doesn't seem very likely lore-wise for a creature built to battle the Chinese and their big fancy assault rifles.

In the new vegas game you can find a pack of deathclaws on a small outcropping across the Colorado river with two power armored dead guys near them.
A brotherhood of steel soldier and an enclave soldier if memory serves.

Pretty sure that goes to show they can kick butt even when it comes to people in power armor.

Indeed, powerful is a death claws middle name. When I played fnv and killed the ones at quarry junction I had to hide on the crane and snipe at them because one-two swipes and they'd kill me. With or without power armour, maybe 4 swipes with power armour.

[Ameige]

My apologizes, I meant bullet resistant then. Didn't realize there was a difference there. My point I was trying to make was that given that they are strong enough to tussle with power armor, they should be a lot more pain in the ass to kill realistically than people claim to have done in the game.

Sure maybe a barrage of bullets might take them down from multiple guns but one or two shots to the head?
I think someone in the last ooc mentioned a couple shots to the head with a pistol worked in the game when they were like level 50 or something.
That doesn't seem very likely lore-wise for a creature built to battle the Chinese and their big fancy assault rifles.

In the new vegas game you can find a pack of deathclaws on a small outcropping across the Colorado river with two power armored dead guys near them.
A brotherhood of steel soldier and an enclave soldier if memory serves.

Pretty sure that goes to show they can kick butt even when it comes to people in power armor.

Indeed, powerful is a death claws middle name. When I played fnv and killed the ones at quarry junction I had to hide on the crane and snipe at them because one-two swipes and they'd kill me. With or without power armour, maybe 4 swipes with power armour.

Ah thanks for pointing that out. Perfect example of what I was trying to explain.

I tried discussing this once in the last ooc and a bunch of people were trying to pass off what they were able to do with their high level characters as realistic for the scenario. This, what you did, is much more likely. No the deathclaws are not bullet proof but they can tussle with power armor and sometimes win, soo there is an extremely very likely chance if you meet one and your not in power armor, essentially your fucked.
Unless you figure out how to traunq them and put those mind control headbands on them that the enclave used. Or that brain implant that the mad scientist from fallout 3 used on a feral ghoul.

[Commonwealth of Hank the Cat]

Indeed, powerful is a death claws middle name. When I played fnv and killed the ones at quarry junction I had to hide on the crane and snipe at them because one-two swipes and they'd kill me. With or without power armour, maybe 4 swipes with power armour.

Ah thanks for pointing that out. Perfect example of what I was trying to explain.

I tried discussing this once in the last ooc and a bunch of people were trying to pass off what they were able to do with their high level characters as realistic for the scenario. This, what you did, is much more likely. No the deathclaws are not bullet proof but they can tussle with power armor and sometimes win, soo there is an extremely very likely chance if you meet one and your not in power armor, essentially your fucked.
Unless you figure out how to traunq them and put those mind control headbands on them that the enclave used. Or that brain implant that the mad scientist from fallout 3 used on a feral ghoul.

I had to use console commands and give myself a anti-materiel rifle to kill Deathclaws in FNV. Jesus, that guys are fucking hard...

[The NAR]

Hank, you gonna be on NS for a bit?

[Commonwealth of Hank the Cat]

Hank, you gonna be on NS for a bit?

Waddya mean?

[The NAR]

Hank, you gonna be on NS for a bit?

Waddya mean?

I wanna wrap up the thing with Shepard and the General so I can tell the NCR they're clear

[Illan]

Sorry guys, I'm here. I'll post shortly.

[Togeria]

I apologize for my absence, but I had RL issues to sort with, I'm back now however.

[Cainesland]

I apologize for my absence, but I had RL issues to sort with, I'm back now however.

Glad to hear it.

[Togeria]

What's the status of Bitter Springs.

[The NAR]

What's the status of Bitter Springs.

Still bitter

[Togeria]

Is it under NCR or BoS control, because that's where I'm headed. I'm coming in from Utah.

[The NAR]

Is it under NCR or BoS control, because that's where I'm headed. I'm coming in from Utah.

FRoM

[Togeria]

Thank you. I'm going to be crossing Lake Mead that's why I wanted to know.

[The NAR]

Thank you.

Yes sir

[Togeria]

Just looking at the general landscape of the Mojave I think I might just end up crossing into BoS territory instead coming west from Utah.

[The NAR]

Just looking at the general landscape of the Mojave I think I might just end up crossing into BoS territory instead coming west from Utah.

That works too, we aren't gonna attack you or nothing. If you need to, you can stop by the New Citadel and pick up some supplies

[Togeria]

Where's that located within your territory?

[The NAR]

Where's that located within your territory?

It's the Fort. From there you can go over the Dam to get into the Mojave

[Togeria]

Posted how is it?

[The NAR]

Yeah looks good, though the first person is a bit odd