Heartaches by the Number | Fallout NV RP | OOC/Still Open!

[Turkducken]

If I can weigh my two cents in here.

Power armor many times has been cited as the height of Pre-War technology, this is why in the Brotherhood they are incapable of building more, this is also cited in Fo4 with so many Brotherhood conscripts using anything that's not Power Armor. Power armor in lore is supposed to be rare and valuable, which is why attacking the BoS or the Enclave for their armor is highly regarded as stupid/worthless. Attacking it just damages it, and its not easy to fix (besides over powered main characters just using steel or whatever), not to mention that Fallout does take place in a post-resources world. Anything of value, strategically or for luxury needs, is depleted if not gone. The two major exceptions to this are the Pitt and the original Enclave. The Pitt was the largest producer of steel in pre-war America, so its only logical that they would have a vast amount of iron in reserve, however the amount of iron left, and/or the amount of steel produced before Brotherhood domination of the Pitt, would widely influence how much the Pitt can produce.

The Enclave are widely stated to be (besides the NCR) the only faction capable and interested in making new things. The Enclave being one of the highest echelons of power in the Pre-War Government and using this power to abuse the system and stockpile whatever crude and refined oil they could before the war. (Along with any of the last remaining American resources before 2077) They proceeded to be the only faction in the American Wasteland to produce new Power Armor and continue the production of Vertibirds, which didn't enter widespread production or use in the Pre-War military, and while it has never been explicitly stated exactly what fuels a Vertibird, it can be inferred from dialogue in Fo2 that they use some form of processed crude oil. The last oil, in canon at least, was split between the Enclave in Navarro and the Poseidon Oil Rig. One of which is captured and owned by the NCR, which is why they have a small handful of operable Vertibirds, and the Oil Rig was destroyed by the Chosen One sometime in their journey for the G.E.C.K.

However in my opinion I will concede the point that Vertibirds could still be used in nuclear only power, it seems illogical (to me) that we are disputing the production of sophisticated technology from over 200 years ago.

[Turkducken]

Hey Tuckducken, would you like to go into business with me?

And I will put a tentative maybe on this, lets RP it out, what is your Mercs goals again?

[Alouite]

If I can weigh my two cents in here.

Power armor many times has been cited as the height of Pre-War technology, this is why in the Brotherhood they are incapable of building more, this is also cited in Fo4 with so many Brotherhood conscripts using anything that's not Power Armor. Power armor in lore is supposed to be rare and valuable, which is why attacking the BoS or the Enclave for their armor is highly regarded as stupid/worthless. Attacking it just damages it, and its not easy to fix (besides over powered main characters just using steel or whatever), not to mention that Fallout does take place in a post-resources world. Anything of value, strategically or for luxury needs, is depleted if not gone. The two major exceptions to this are the Pitt and the original Enclave. The Pitt was the largest producer of steel in pre-war America, so its only logical that they would have a vast amount of iron in reserve, however the amount of iron left, and/or the amount of steel produced before Brotherhood domination of the Pitt, would widely influence how much the Pitt can produce.

The Enclave are widely stated to be (besides the NCR) the only faction capable and interested in making new things. The Enclave being one of the highest echelons of power in the Pre-War Government and using this power to abuse the system and stockpile whatever crude and refined oil they could before the war. (Along with any of the last remaining American resources before 2077) They proceeded to be the only faction in the American Wasteland to produce new Power Armor and continue the production of Vertibirds, which didn't enter widespread production or use in the Pre-War military, and while it has never been explicitly stated exactly what fuels a Vertibird, it can be inferred from dialogue in Fo2 that they use some form of processed crude oil. The last oil, in canon at least, was split between the Enclave in Navarro and the Poseidon Oil Rig. One of which is captured and owned by the NCR, which is why they have a small handful of operable Vertibirds, and the Oil Rig was destroyed by the Chosen One sometime in their journey for the G.E.C.K.

However in my opinion I will concede the point that Vertibirds could still be used in nuclear only power, it seems illogical (to me) that we are disputing the production of sophisticated technology from over 200 years ago.

Actually, thank you, this backs up my point further here. If the Brotherhood in FO4 can't produce vertibirds or power armor, then it seems illogical for the Brotherhood in this RP to be able to. They can produce ships like the Prydwyn since they state they have smaller ones in the capital in FO4, but vertibirds are off their list. Meanwhile, the FRoM's airforce is led by former Enclave Airmen who maintained and knew the mechanics inside and out of how vertibirds work. So, in time, we could produce them.

[Ironsbad]

Hey Tuckducken, would you like to go into business with me?

And I will put a tentative maybe on this, lets RP it out, what is your Mercs goals again?

For now, my corporate army is just growing and staying neutral from the war and just using my soldiers to express interest in places I am in. The corporate forces is also home-grown with the mercs training them.

[Waztaskio]

If I can weigh my two cents in here.

Power armor many times has been cited as the height of Pre-War technology, this is why in the Brotherhood they are incapable of building more, this is also cited in Fo4 with so many Brotherhood conscripts using anything that's not Power Armor. Power armor in lore is supposed to be rare and valuable, which is why attacking the BoS or the Enclave for their armor is highly regarded as stupid/worthless. Attacking it just damages it, and its not easy to fix (besides over powered main characters just using steel or whatever), not to mention that Fallout does take place in a post-resources world. Anything of value, strategically or for luxury needs, is depleted if not gone. The two major exceptions to this are the Pitt and the original Enclave. The Pitt was the largest producer of steel in pre-war America, so its only logical that they would have a vast amount of iron in reserve, however the amount of iron left, and/or the amount of steel produced before Brotherhood domination of the Pitt, would widely influence how much the Pitt can produce.

The Enclave are widely stated to be (besides the NCR) the only faction capable and interested in making new things. The Enclave being one of the highest echelons of power in the Pre-War Government and using this power to abuse the system and stockpile whatever crude and refined oil they could before the war. (Along with any of the last remaining American resources before 2077) They proceeded to be the only faction in the American Wasteland to produce new Power Armor and continue the production of Vertibirds, which didn't enter widespread production or use in the Pre-War military, and while it has never been explicitly stated exactly what fuels a Vertibird, it can be inferred from dialogue in Fo2 that they use some form of processed crude oil. The last oil, in canon at least, was split between the Enclave in Navarro and the Poseidon Oil Rig. One of which is captured and owned by the NCR, which is why they have a small handful of operable Vertibirds, and the Oil Rig was destroyed by the Chosen One sometime in their journey for the G.E.C.K.

However in my opinion I will concede the point that Vertibirds could still be used in nuclear only power, it seems illogical (to me) that we are disputing the production of sophisticated technology from over 200 years ago.

Actually, thank you, this backs up my point further here. If the Brotherhood in FO4 can't produce vertibirds or power armor, then it seems illogical for the Brotherhood in this RP to be able to. They can produce ships like the Prydwyn since they state they have smaller ones in the capital in FO4, but vertibirds are off their list. Meanwhile, the FRoM's airforce is led by former Enclave Airmen who maintained and knew the mechanics inside and out of how vertibirds work. So, in time, we could produce them.

So, does this mean the NCR could produce vertibirds?

[The NAR]

I still want to be able to create Enclave-models of power armor, which are weaker. Like I said, two a month isn't a lot. I just need some sort of production rate. It's really unfair that the FRoM will be able to shit out Vertibirds, but we can't despite having access to all the Enclave Records and all their Vertibirds. At the very least, I want the ability to produce power armor

[Ironsbad]

I still want to be able to create Enclave-models of power armor, which are weaker. Like I said, two a month isn't a lot. I just need some sort of production rate. It's really unfair that the FRoM will be able to shit out Vertibirds, but we can't despite having access to all the Enclave Records and all their Vertibirds. At the very least, I want the ability to produce power armor

I do have a large supply of refined steel...

[Alouite]

I still want to be able to create Enclave-models of power armor, which are weaker. Like I said, two a month isn't a lot. I just need some sort of production rate. It's really unfair that the FRoM will be able to shit out Vertibirds, but we can't despite having access to all the Enclave Records and all their Vertibirds. At the very least, I want the ability to produce power armor

I do have a large supply of refined steel...

Dude, that makes no logistic sense, he'd have to ship it via Vertibird to the Capital wasteland which would be slow and inefficient.

[The NAR]

I do have a large supply of refined steel...

Dude, that makes no logistic sense, he'd have to ship it via Vertibird to the Capital wasteland which would be slow and inefficient.

When we have the Pitt at our disposal, it's not worth it

[Alouite]

I still want to be able to create Enclave-models of power armor, which are weaker. Like I said, two a month isn't a lot. I just need some sort of production rate. It's really unfair that the FRoM will be able to shit out Vertibirds, but we can't despite having access to all the Enclave Records and all their Vertibirds. At the very least, I want the ability to produce power armor

To be fair, life isn't fair. But for the sake of the game, lets say a single working Enclave assembly line works and that if you refine steel well enough you can make a few armor pieces at a time allowing you to produce two weaker versions of Enclave Armor per month.

[Waztaskio]

I still do have the question if it would be possible for the NCR to be able to produce vertibirds?

[Alouite]

Actually, thank you, this backs up my point further here. If the Brotherhood in FO4 can't produce vertibirds or power armor, then it seems illogical for the Brotherhood in this RP to be able to. They can produce ships like the Prydwyn since they state they have smaller ones in the capital in FO4, but vertibirds are off their list. Meanwhile, the FRoM's airforce is led by former Enclave Airmen who maintained and knew the mechanics inside and out of how vertibirds work. So, in time, we could produce them.

So, does this mean the NCR could produce vertibirds?

They have the capacity, but they lack the blueprints to do so. They could produce trucks and eventually might be able to produce humvees and such. But new aircraft are the domain of the Enclave.

[Ironsbad]

Dude, that makes no logistic sense, he'd have to ship it via Vertibird to the Capital wasteland which would be slow and inefficient.

When we have the Pitt at our disposal, it's not worth it

Going back to being insignificant.

[Alouite]

When we have the Pitt at our disposal, it's not worth it

Going back to being insignificant.

Lol no, for now you are a contributor to the Steel Supply that is allowing the FRoM to produce vertibirds, no doubt you aren't the only contributor, but some of that steel you send us to melt into an alloy is going to be reinforcing and making the structure of our Vertibirds.

[Ironsbad]

Going back to being insignificant.

Lol no, for now you are a contributor to the Steel Supply that is allowing the FRoM to produce vertibirds, no doubt you aren't the only contributor, but some of that steel you send us to melt into an alloy is going to be reinforcing and making the structure of our Vertibirds.

Well, I could say I'm a rising power since I'm technically independent for now, and growing my own army to make sure it stays that way for now. However, still neutral and looking to buy land in Boulder City, for business stuff. And maybe a few farms around the western side, for business stuff.

[Turkducken]

Like I'm trying to say, no one should be able to produce new highly sophisticated pre-war technology (in my opinion), not the NCR, not the BoS, not the FRoM.

[Turkducken]

Oh and Ironsbad, you don't have to be a Chinese Ghoul just from Mama Dolce's, Chinese Americans and POWs were kept in interment camps all over the U.S. Just to give you a bit of character freedom.

[Ironsbad]

Oh and Ironsbad, you don't have to be a Chinese Ghoul just from Mama Dolce's, Chinese Americans and POWs were kept in interment camps all over the U.S. Just to give you a bit of character freedom.

POWs work better. Never said where Zhu came from, just that he was a Chinese Ghoul that was a pre-war soldier.

[Cainesland]

I could be wrong but to my knowledge, for the most part, the vertibird creation project is hinging greatly on the participation of the enclave remnants known as Castor Dr. Keenan and Fred. Castor because of his knowledge of nuclear reactors, scientific knowledge, and expierience fixing vertibirds, Keenan because of his education and expierience with science, and Fred later to help train the pilots. Even if the blueprints were to be take without castors consent, which from his position in the chamber is a very real possibility, hardly anyone has the education needed to read effectively a pre war level blueprint and follow its instructions to the letter to build its objective. Even a minor mistake in the nuclear reactor of a vertibird would have the potential for cataclysm, as would mistakes in building power armour.

[Turkducken]

I could be wrong but to my knowledge, for the most part, the vertibird creation project is hinging greatly on the participation of the enclave remnants known as Castor Dr. Keenan and Fred. Castor because of his knowledge of nuclear reactors, scientific knowledge, and expierience fixing vertibirds, Keenan because of his education and expierience with science, and Fred later to help train the pilots. Even if the blueprints were to be take without castors consent, which from his position in the chamber is a very real possibility, hardly anyone has the education needed to read effectively a pre war level blueprint and follow its instructions to the letter to build its objective. Even a minor mistake in the nuclear reactor of a vertibird would have the potential for cataclysm, as would mistakes in building power armour.

If Enclave Remnants are willingly cooperating with either faction, provided they actually possess the knowledge to construct such things, then I don't see why not. In this canon at the very least, however it should take an Extremely long time to manufacture one, let alone power it.

[Cainesland]

I could be wrong but to my knowledge, for the most part, the vertibird creation project is hinging greatly on the participation of the enclave remnants known as Castor Dr. Keenan and Fred. Castor because of his knowledge of nuclear reactors, scientific knowledge, and expierience fixing vertibirds, Keenan because of his education and expierience with science, and Fred later to help train the pilots. Even if the blueprints were to be take without castors consent, which from his position in the chamber is a very real possibility, hardly anyone has the education needed to read effectively a pre war level blueprint and follow its instructions to the letter to build its objective. Even a minor mistake in the nuclear reactor of a vertibird would have the potential for cataclysm, as would mistakes in building power armour.

If Enclave Remnants are willingly cooperating with either faction, provided they actually possess the knowledge to construct such things, then I don't see why not. In this canon at the very least, however it should take an Extremely long time to manufacture one, let alone power it.

That's the plan, for it to take a considerable amount of time. As for fuel, they'd probably draw from Castors reserves though in either one of the Enclave refuelling posts.

[Cainesland]

I like how warran buffet said that if you have the chance to buy something of extraordinary value you should do it right then and there and not wait till a better price is available.

http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-b ... ism-2015-5


Have you guys read his recent letter to shareholders? It's quite good.

[Kernan]

Hey everyone! Im back after a short time of being gone. Can someone give me a quick update to what has happened in the IC?

[Turkducken]

Another question, what happened to the Boomers?

[Cainesland]

Another question, what happened to the Boomers?

Dead. THey were killed by the Legion I believe.