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Togeria
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Postby Togeria » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:02 pm

For now I'm staying neutral and combating this drug problem.
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Russian people of america
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Founded: Feb 13, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Russian people of america » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:05 pm

Togeria wrote:For now I'm staying neutral and combating this drug problem.

Alright, but please do consider our offer. China could expand southward's, increasing her already massive size. In the end if your too successful with stopping the Opium trade i'm willing to wager that Britain would invade. Or rather the EIC, considering the vast amount's of money they make from the drug in china.
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:06 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
New Finnish Republic wrote:I think I'll wait for the actual conference to post again, seeing as it's looking like full blown out may commence and I want to make sure Prussia is prepared.Also, I'm so ready to make use of a possible conflict to further expand Prussia and make my Glorious Reich a dream come true.

Careful Fido, Let's keep that expansion in Germany :p

I very much doubt Prussia's capability to invade the League.
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Segmentia
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Posts: 8636
Founded: Jan 16, 2010
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Postby Segmentia » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:12 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
Togeria wrote:For now I'm staying neutral and combating this drug problem.

Alright, but please do consider our offer. China could expand southward's, increasing her already massive size. In the end if your too successful with stopping the Opium trade i'm willing to wager that Britain would invade. Or rather the EIC, considering the vast amount's of money they make from the drug in china.


I like how you think the EIC would be allowed to fully invade a nation and then still be allowed to operate. The EIC exists because the British Empire allows them to. Risking British India in an invasion of China would quickly see all of their favor vanish.

E: Also, have fun making no progress in Afghanistan.
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Kargintina
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Founded: Oct 17, 2013
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Postby Kargintina » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:12 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
Togeria wrote:It's not as simple as that. In realistic war your focus would be on Europe first, Asia second. That leaves with a double offensive against British India and Japan who would both invade in my south and northern ends millions would die. This leaves two choices don't join any bloc or forge and alliance with one bloc to avoid a war with the other two or in the worst case all three. The British are the most ideal if forced to choose because along you there's only one front the north which could be defended to a point considering I get help from Japan and Britain's Indian colonies the French aren't as established in Asia yet leaving only two great powers to ally with Russia or Britain.

Honestly the only war's i expect to fight in Europe will be against whatever German state's resist Prussian Rule. My main forces will be Dedicated to Asia, More Specifically Afghanistan and India. Of those two power's one's destroying you internally with drug's, the other isn't. Not to mention that any land based offensive would be easily crushed between our Army's. Besides at the moment we can fund Indian rebel's.

This Anglo-Russo Cold War kinda hurts my chances at negotiating Sakhalin.

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:14 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Russian people of america wrote:Honestly the only war's i expect to fight in Europe will be against whatever German state's resist Prussian Rule. My main forces will be Dedicated to Asia, More Specifically Afghanistan and India. Of those two power's one's destroying you internally with drug's, the other isn't. Not to mention that any land based offensive would be easily crushed between our Army's. Besides at the moment we can fund Indian rebel's.

This Anglo-Russo Cold War kinda hurts my chances at negotiating Sakhalin.

Not necessarily. Could help your chances if the Brits subtly put pressure on Hawaii, and Russia's one usable port that's directly on the Pacific.
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Jade Confederacy
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:15 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I am not posting until France and I work out the alliance document.

Why, what more do you want from the pact? I need the alliance to push forward so I can get access to Manila or Subic bay to launch an invasion of Southeast Asia. Plus you need my diplomatic and military backing to suppress rebels and shield against foreign powers. I'm also willing to mediate peace talks with rebel factions and if need be to provide support in suppressing them.
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Russian people of america
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Founded: Feb 13, 2013
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Postby Russian people of america » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:16 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Russian people of america wrote:Alright, but please do consider our offer. China could expand southward's, increasing her already massive size. In the end if your too successful with stopping the Opium trade i'm willing to wager that Britain would invade. Or rather the EIC, considering the vast amount's of money they make from the drug in china.


I like how you think the EIC would be allowed to fully invade a nation and then still be allowed to operate. The EIC exists because the British Empire allows them to. Risking British India in an invasion of China would quickly see all of their favor vanish.

E: Also, have fun making no progress in Afghanistan.

Have fun losing British India my friend :p
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Segmentia
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Founded: Jan 16, 2010
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Postby Segmentia » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:18 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
I like how you think the EIC would be allowed to fully invade a nation and then still be allowed to operate. The EIC exists because the British Empire allows them to. Risking British India in an invasion of China would quickly see all of their favor vanish.

E: Also, have fun making no progress in Afghanistan.

Have fun losing British India my friend :p


I don't really see that happening, really. Where as Afghanistan has bested even the greatest of nations.
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Yurizlansia
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Founded: Apr 14, 2012
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Postby Yurizlansia » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:19 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Russian people of america wrote:Have fun losing British India my friend :p


I don't really see that happening, really. Where as Afghanistan has bested even the greatest of nations.

I have no plans of invading you.
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:21 pm

Tbh I think Persia would benefit more from not being in the Russian bloc for a few reasons.
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New Finnish Republic
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Founded: Mar 30, 2015
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Postby New Finnish Republic » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:27 pm

Sanabel wrote:Tbh I think Persia would benefit more from not being in the Russian bloc for a few reasons.


Shhhhhh

Don't say anything. I need cannon-fodder dammit I mean I need dependable allies
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:28 pm

New Finnish Republic wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Tbh I think Persia would benefit more from not being in the Russian bloc for a few reasons.


Shhhhhh

Don't say anything. I need cannon-fodder dammit I mean I need dependable allies

Tbh Russia is one of the states that benefit the least from Prussian expansion.
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Russian people of america
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Founded: Feb 13, 2013
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Postby Russian people of america » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:28 pm

Sanabel wrote:
New Finnish Republic wrote:
Shhhhhh

Don't say anything. I need cannon-fodder dammit I mean I need dependable allies

Tbh Russia is one of the states that benefit the least from Prussian expansion.

How so?
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Jade Confederacy
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Founded: Aug 21, 2009
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:31 pm

Sanabel wrote:Tbh Russia is one of the states that benefit the least from Prussian expansion.

They're a hedge against the ottomans but more importantly they can give Russia port facilities on the Indian Ocean. If I were Russia I'd ask to split Afghanistan or to replace the afghan emir with a mutually acceptable candidate. The main goal of the great game is India so Afghanistan is just a stepping block

Edit: looking on China I don't know why he didn't fully jump aboard a Russian push to the Indian subcontinent. Nearly all of the British production came from there and if British control there is lost or weakened the flow of drugs would naturally stop
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Segmentia
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Postby Segmentia » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:33 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Tbh Russia is one of the states that benefit the least from Prussian expansion.

They're a hedge against the ottomans but more importantly they can give Russia port facilities on the Indian Ocean. If I were Russia I'd ask to split Afghanistan or to replace the afghan emir with a mutually acceptable candidate. The main goal of the great game is India so Afghanistan is just a stepping block


Assuming they win.
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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:33 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I am not posting until France and I work out the alliance document.

Why, what more do you want from the pact? I need the alliance to push forward so I can get access to Manila or Subic bay to launch an invasion of Southeast Asia. Plus you need my diplomatic and military backing to suppress rebels and shield against foreign powers. I'm also willing to mediate peace talks with rebel factions and if need be to provide support in suppressing them.

Alright, just confirming you were onboard I will sign the pact with my next post,BTW have you thought about the lucrative Haiti expedition.

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Russian people of america
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Postby Russian people of america » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:37 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Jade Confederacy wrote:They're a hedge against the ottomans but more importantly they can give Russia port facilities on the Indian Ocean. If I were Russia I'd ask to split Afghanistan or to replace the afghan emir with a mutually acceptable candidate. The main goal of the great game is India so Afghanistan is just a stepping block


Assuming they win.

The Entire Persian and a large part of the Russian army, including a huge number of Cossack's will be attacking it. I very much doubt we can't take it, at least initially. As Jade said before it's only a stepping stone, for Russia anyways. I'm sure Persia can hold the territory by herself after it's taken.
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Jade Confederacy
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:38 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Alright, just confirming you were onboard I will sign the pact with my next post,BTW have you thought about the lucrative Haiti expedition.

I think Haiti is already under my control since the French kingdom would have massively repressed decent upon its revival. The cost would be high and there probably would be subsequent rebellions but control would be maintained. Many of the slave leaders would probably have ran off to Louisiana upon the revolutions's failure.

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:39 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Tbh Russia is one of the states that benefit the least from Prussian expansion.

How so?

A few reasons.

Firstly, it would allow Prussia quite a bit more power in the Baltic Sea, which was historically Russia's domain. This, in turn, could allow Prussia unprecedented control over Russian access to the North Sea/Atlantic.

Russia would have yet another potential competitor for influence in Eastern Europe.

Prussian expansion would be opposed by Hanover, and by extension the British. If Russia supported this, it could lead to Britain putting subtle pressure on their Hawaiian possessions.

It would diminish Russian influence in continental affairs, because yet another advanced power would surpass them in pretty much every way in Europe.

Since the 1780s, Austria has had closer relations with Russia than Prussia had with Russia.

Competing spheres of influence.

Super anti-Prussian sentiment amongst Russian land owning nobility.

Etc.
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Segmentia
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Postby Segmentia » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:43 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Assuming they win.

The Entire Persian and a large part of the Russian army, including a huge number of Cossack's will be attacking it. I very much doubt we can't take it, at least initially. As Jade said before it's only a stepping stone, for Russia anyways. I'm sure Persia can hold the territory by herself after it's taken.



Russia is also under threat of a potential Noble Rebellion, since the Tsar went and purged a good number of them. Not to mention Afghanistan has a history of being a pain to conquer and occupy, and that's without support from the most powerful nation in the world. That on top of the sheer expenses of sending a large part of the Russian army into the conflict. It's going to be very costly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Anglo-Afghan_War
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New Granadeseret
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Postby New Granadeseret » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:46 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Assuming they win.

The Entire Persian and a large part of the Russian army, including a huge number of Cossack's will be attacking it. I very much doubt we can't take it, at least initially. As Jade said before it's only a stepping stone, for Russia anyways. I'm sure Persia can hold the territory by herself after it's taken.


Holding Afghanistan is... complicated. I have no doubt they can beat the Emir's army, albet with heavy loses, but the occupation would be a rather intense "Ulser" constantly bleeding men and resources. Afghanistan is rarely a kind place for conquerors.
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:47 pm

Hard to decide between asking the Prussia-Russia alliance for help or the British Empire.
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Russian people of america
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Postby Russian people of america » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:48 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Russian people of america wrote:How so?

A few reasons.

Firstly, it would allow Prussia quite a bit more power in the Baltic Sea, which was historically Russia's domain. This, in turn, could allow Prussia unprecedented control over Russian access to the North Sea/Atlantic.

Russia would have yet another potential competitor for influence in Eastern Europe.

Prussian expansion would be opposed by Hanover, and by extension the British. If Russia supported this, it could lead to Britain putting subtle pressure on their Hawaiian possessions.

It would diminish Russian influence in continental affairs, because yet another advanced power would surpass them in pretty much every way in Europe.

Since the 1780s, Austria has had closer relations with Russia than Prussia had with Russia.

Competing spheres of influence.

Super anti-Prussian sentiment amongst Russian land owning nobility.

Etc.

Well at this point War seems like it could be inevitable if the British respond negatively to Afghanistan. Besides as part of our agreement with Prussia we would be focusing on taking over Sweden and possibly Norway. Of course that is a far off goal with the high tensions between Russia and Britain. Considering the other German states Prussia seems like the better choice. Austria won't likely rise being a NPC, so my other option is Hanover. But that won't work due to your ties to England and the situation in the East. In fact your rise would be even worse than Prussia's.
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:48 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Hard to decide between asking the Prussia-Russia alliance for help or the British Empire.

Ask the Brits. Neither Prussia nor Russia can even reach you really.
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