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Postby Jade Confederacy » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:00 pm

Sanabel wrote:Grrr I want Cochinchina.

Anyway, when should we start posting our arrival at the conference in Paris?

Anytime you want, just date it a week or two after my post. I'll kick things off once most of the major powers are present. We can conduct negotiations via OOC or through a separate conference thread

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:05 pm

British Prussia wrote:
Sanabel wrote:What do you mean "what the hell"? You just proved my point that you shouldn't assume troop numbers.

But btw, you're still underestimating. A Spanish regiment from this era had 1000-2000 men.

2,000? That's far too many... Far too many for the 1840's. Unless they're not all regulars.

A Spanish battalion from the Napoleonic Wars until the mid 1800s alone had 600-800 troops.
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Postby Segmentia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:08 pm

So is France still involved with the slave trade? I know Spain is, and the British Navy will be increasing its anti-slaver patrols by a decent amount across the globe.
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Postby British Prussia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:14 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:If GB invades the Spanish West Indies without a proper causes belli than France will intervene. I will probably send a decent chunk of troops there anyway since I want to use it as a base to invade Southeast Asia

We could always Spanish-American War it. Besides, I don't think the Spanish have signed that defence treaty yet. We have to move quick...

Sanabel wrote:
British Prussia wrote:2,000? That's far too many... Far too many for the 1840's. Unless they're not all regulars.

A Spanish battalion from the Napoleonic Wars until the mid 1800s alone had 600-800 troops.

Don't you mean regiment, not battalion? Even if it was 1,000 - 2,000 men, IRL, they would be outclassed by their other European counterparts. But IC Spain actually has a decent army.
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:17 pm

Segmentia wrote:So is France still involved with the slave trade? I know Spain is, and the British Navy will be increasing its anti-slaver patrols by a decent amount across the globe.

If they're raiding ships flying the French flag than it would constitute an act of piracy which would warrant retaliation, otherwise I don't care since it just means you're attacking my competitors

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:20 pm

British Prussia wrote:
Jade Confederacy wrote:If GB invades the Spanish West Indies without a proper causes belli than France will intervene. I will probably send a decent chunk of troops there anyway since I want to use it as a base to invade Southeast Asia

We could always Spanish-American War it. Besides, I don't think the Spanish have signed that defence treaty yet. We have to move quick...

Sanabel wrote:A Spanish battalion from the Napoleonic Wars until the mid 1800s alone had 600-800 troops.

Don't you mean regiment, not battalion? Even if it was 1,000 - 2,000 men, IRL, they would be outclassed by their other European counterparts. But IC Spain actually has a decent army.

No, I mean what I said. Battalions had 600-800, with 2-3 battalions in a regiment.

The latter part however, is true. Spain would most certainly be outclassed, however I noticed in your app you noted yourself that you too would be outclassed by European infantry. So youd probably be on fairly even footing, with more troops on the Spanish side. However, as you noted IC, they seem to be decent. So I take it that they have a large, and relatively skilled force in the Philippines currently.
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Postby Togeria » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:22 pm

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Postby Kargintina » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:22 pm

Sanabel wrote:
British Prussia wrote:We could always Spanish-American War it. Besides, I don't think the Spanish have signed that defence treaty yet. We have to move quick...


Don't you mean regiment, not battalion? Even if it was 1,000 - 2,000 men, IRL, they would be outclassed by their other European counterparts. But IC Spain actually has a decent army.

No, I mean what I said. Battalions had 600-800, with 2-3 battalions in a regiment.

The latter part however, is true. Spain would most certainly be outclassed, however I noticed in your app you noted yourself that you too would be outclassed by European infantry. So youd probably be on fairly even footing, with more troops on the Spanish side. However, as you noted IC, they seem to be decent. So I take it that they have a large, and relatively skilled force in the Philippines currently.

I could donate some troops to fight in the Phillippines as payment to the British for helping overthrow the Shogun.

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Postby New Finnish Republic » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:28 pm

32 pages of OOC and we're still on the first page of the IC :roll:
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Postby British Prussia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:30 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Sanabel wrote:No, I mean what I said. Battalions had 600-800, with 2-3 battalions in a regiment.

The latter part however, is true. Spain would most certainly be outclassed, however I noticed in your app you noted yourself that you too would be outclassed by European infantry. So youd probably be on fairly even footing, with more troops on the Spanish side. However, as you noted IC, they seem to be decent. So I take it that they have a large, and relatively skilled force in the Philippines currently.

I could donate some troops to fight in the Phillippines as payment to the British for helping overthrow the Shogun.

Nah, we might have to postpone the whole Philippines thing. If GB ever decides to help, they'll train and equip your army to European standards. That's when we could probably take on the Spanish. But tbh, I did want to leave foreign military involvement until later. Gotta secure India first.

Will keep an eye on on what happens though.
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Postby British Prussia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:33 pm

Sanabel wrote:The latter part however, is true. Spain would most certainly be outclassed, however I noticed in your app you noted yourself that you too would be outclassed by European infantry. So youd probably be on fairly even footing, with more troops on the Spanish side. However, as you noted IC, they seem to be decent. So I take it that they have a large, and relatively skilled force in the Philippines currently.

It all depends.
BEIC European Regiment > Spanish Regiment
Spanish Regiment > BEIC Indian Regiment
BEIC Indian Regiment > Spanish Philippines Milita.
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Postby Segmentia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:58 pm

Britain probably won't be attending the Paris Conference in protest to the continued French and Spanish slave trades, nor will we consider any document coming from said conference to be binding.
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:03 pm

Segmentia wrote:Britain probably won't be attending the Paris Conference in protest to the continued French and Spanish slave trades, nor will we consider any document coming from said conference to be binding.

Its fine, but other powers will attend and Africa will be divided either on the drawing board or as a free for all. Minor naval powers would have incentive to attend otherwise their claims will be eaten by the bigger powers. Here is the first proposed map of the partition:

http://imgur.com/a/v9Nem

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:07 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Segmentia wrote:Britain probably won't be attending the Paris Conference in protest to the continued French and Spanish slave trades, nor will we consider any document coming from said conference to be binding.

Its fine, but other powers will attend and Africa will be divided either on the drawing board or as a free for all. Minor naval powers would have incentive to attend otherwise their claims will be eaten by the bigger powers. Here is the first proposed map of the partition:

http://imgur.com/a/v9Nem

Whoever gets to Somalia first get it

You can expect me to be in attendance. I'll be looking for international recognition of my Desert Coast/Walvis Bay colony, and some land in East Africa, West Africa, or both.
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Postby Togeria » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:14 pm

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Postby New Finnish Republic » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:20 pm

Prussia will be in attendance. We'll keep up appearances for now. Perhaps a few "agreements" will be made during the conference.
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Postby New Granadeseret » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:25 pm

Segmentia wrote:Britain probably won't be attending the Paris Conference in protest to the continued French and Spanish slave trades, nor will we consider any document coming from said conference to be binding.


And Portuguese Slave trade.

British Prussia wrote:
Sanabel wrote:The latter part however, is true. Spain would most certainly be outclassed, however I noticed in your app you noted yourself that you too would be outclassed by European infantry. So youd probably be on fairly even footing, with more troops on the Spanish side. However, as you noted IC, they seem to be decent. So I take it that they have a large, and relatively skilled force in the Philippines currently.

It all depends.
BEIC European Regiment > Spanish Regiment
Spanish Regiment > BEIC Indian Regiment
BEIC Indian Regiment > Spanish Philippines Milita.


Seems like a fair assessment... though you need to keep most of your European regiments at home.
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:53 pm

I'm sorry for being really inactive lately, I've been sick plus the Rugby's been on. Op, if I cut my navy down to just 250 ships will I be accepted?

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Postby New Granadeseret » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:56 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:I'm sorry for being really inactive lately, I've been sick plus the Rugby's been on. Op, if I cut my navy down to just 250 ships will I be accepted?


I'll allow you to have 225.
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:58 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:I'm sorry for being really inactive lately, I've been sick plus the Rugby's been on. Op, if I cut my navy down to just 250 ships will I be accepted?


I'll allow you to have 225.

Deal.

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:35 pm

British Prussia wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Maybe instead of making assumptions, you should ask the Spanish player. There's a good chance he has a heightened presence there already due to the rebellion. And yes Spain is in decline, but I daresay the EIC is as well, and Spain is still much stronger than you are giving them credit for.


What the hell?!?!
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:For service in the East Indies
5 line infantry regiments
5 light infantry regiments
2 sharpshooter regiments
2 Lancer regiments
5 Dragoon regiments
1 Light Artillery regiment

A regiment would mean about 800 men, about the same for cavalry... So, a conservative figure would be around +/-14,000 men. That is much, much more than expected...

I'll need to work with GB and the local resistance for this... What a bother. Although I'm sure it wouldn't be too much of a pain for GB.



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The ruling elite and most of civilised Louisiana may be French Creole (Louisianais), but large portions of the population are Native American, Mexican, Texan and immigrants from Haiti, US, Canada, and various European countries. It is trying to create a new identity, and rejects being thought of as French. It's size makes no difference to its level of threat, most of the land is sparsely populated and held by key forts. Oregon is hardly a crisis waiting to happen, the land can easily be solved by some negotiations and payments.

Ehhh, that isn't too bad then.

One of those formations is a single corps that is in service. Obviously there are more than one corps in the Phillipines.

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Postby Russian people of america » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:03 pm

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Postby Rygondria » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:09 pm

Would it be possible for me to use southern Italy or the Oregon area,If Southern Italy is taken i well just make a republic of Oregon.

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Postby British Prussia » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:39 am

Purging the Russian nobility without repercussions?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:43 am

What is time progression again?

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