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Postby Sanabel » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:36 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I am impartial to Dutch annexation of Flanders, but what would happen to Brussels.

Better impartial than against I suppose. Eh, we burn it to the ground,

Terrible idea. It's a mostly Dutch speaking city still at this point.

Did you get my TG?
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:37 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Better impartial than against I suppose. Eh, we burn it to the ground,

Terrible idea. It's a mostly Dutch speaking city still at this point.

Did you get my TG?

Was joke. Jeez man can't you tell joke??

Yes, I'll respond in a bit.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:39 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Terrible idea. It's a mostly Dutch speaking city still at this point.

Did you get my TG?

Was joke. Jeez man can't you tell joke??

Yes, I'll respond in a bit.

Your typing skills are the real joke. Leaving a comma instead of a period? Give me a break.

Anyway, I guess I will support Dutch Flanders + an independent/buffer Wallonia.
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:40 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Was joke. Jeez man can't you tell joke??

Yes, I'll respond in a bit.

Your typing skills are the real joke. Leaving a comma instead of a period? Give me a break.

Anyway, I guess I will support Dutch Flanders + an independent/buffer Wallonia.

That's part of my philosophical artistic expression.

Good to know.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:42 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Your typing skills are the real joke. Leaving a comma instead of a period? Give me a break.

Anyway, I guess I will support Dutch Flanders + an independent/buffer Wallonia.

That's part of my philosophical artistic expression.

Good to know.

Ah, so ironic and quite the satiration of our society.

A buffer between the German States and France would benefit all, and it was the point of Belgium irl, so an independent Wallonia would be wondrous.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:44 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:
A buffer between the German States and France would benefit all, and it was the point of Belgium irl, so an independent Wallonia would be wondrous.

If Netherlands gets Flanders, Spain will lobby hard for France to get Wallonia.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:46 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:That's part of my philosophical artistic expression.

Good to know.

Ah, so ironic and quite the satiration of our society.

A buffer between the German States and France would benefit all, and it was the point of Belgium irl, so an independent Wallonia would be wondrous.

Yes, exposing society for the cultural stagnant pit it's become is an important job I feel.

Maybe, though I think France will be wanting Wallonia.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:52 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Sanabel wrote:

If Netherlands gets Flanders, Spain will lobby hard for France to get Wallonia.

And we will lobby against.
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:53 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Sanabel wrote:

If Netherlands gets Flanders, Spain will lobby hard for France to get Wallonia.

I can see why you rarely quote.

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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:56 pm

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The Peoples East Africa wrote:NS Name: The Peoples East Africa
Nation Name: Informally the Netherlands, or Holland. Officially the Kingdom of the Netherlands
Head of State: William I
Head of Government: William I
Head of Diplomacy: William I
Territory: Netherlands, + Dutch colonies at the time including the Cape and East Indies, + Dutch and French Guyana, I'm not able to do a map.

Flag: Same as real life
Demonym: Dutch
Capital: Amsterdam
Currency: Dutch Guilder
State/Primary Religion: Protestants are the majority, with a few Catholics

Government Form: Constitutional Monarchy
Ideology: Nationalism, Imperialism,
Foreign Policy: Relations are strongest with the Kingdom of England, even if they've warred many times in the past. The Glorious Revolution, in which a Dutch king took power in England, has left its mark with a high number of the English looking favourably on the Netherlands. Religious similarities are another thing in common between them.
To the east, the Hanoverian League is another allied nation, and not just because they're in a personal union with England. The two countries share a bloodline, and have assisted each other in industrialization. The two Protestant nations share a hatred of the Austrians, which makes for a concrete alliance.
The Austrians/HRE/those Germans in charge of Belgium, are hated throughout the kingdom. Uniting all Dutch people under one nation is a goal of the government, and the Austrians are a serious obstacle in this. Freeing the Flemish from their oppressive captors is planning to be done any day now.
Relations are negative with Portugal (Could change though with discussions).
Neutral with most others.
Domestic Policy: Most Dutch live a happy life, and so internal conflicts are low. Although the monarch retains much power, he's massively popular among the people. Industrialization is widespread, upsetting a few people from the pollution, but they mostly just move to the clean, tulip-filled air of the countryside. Infrastructure is expanding well, with roads and ports being built en masse.
Civil Freedoms 7/10:
Political Freedoms 4/10:
Economic Freedoms 9/10:

Military Size:
-Army: 30,000.
-Navy: 450 ships
-Elite Forces: Not really sure what this is.

Military Description: The army is small, but a professional force capable of defending the nation. In the event of war, up to 100,000 men in total could be conscripted, but they'd have to return home quickly or risk the economy falling apart. Equipment is good, and the average soldier trains for many years.
The navy is the pride of the Dutch people, and where most of the funding goes. 450 ships in total make up the Royal Dutch Navy, with five ports of call for them. The training and equipment is among the best in the world, and few navies could hope to best them. The East Indies is becoming increasingly important to hold, and nearly half the navy is permanently stationed there.
The main doctrine of the military is to defend the Netherlands, the colonies, and keep trade open. However with recent goals of the king becoming evident, the army is starting to teach more offensive tactics.

Strengths and Weaknesses: Disciplined, well trained and equipped, good at defence.
Small, experience is lacking, officers could be better.

Short Description of Your Nation's Economy: The Dutch economy is strong, with trade bringing in vast amounts of wealth from across the world. The currency is one of the strongest in Europe, with the world's first stock exchange located in Amsterdam. The vast majority of exports come from factories, though the flat lands of the kingdom are fertile enough to feed many.
Short Description of Your Nation's Government: The king holds near absolute power, although the constitution does put a limit on it. Being beloved by many, he can get away with nearly anything he wants.
Short History of the last 40 years: With no revolution too spread across Europe, France never toppled the Dutch Republic. William V, last Stadtholder of the Netherlands remained popular and in power, and spent his last years solidifying the Netherlands place in the world. The industrial revolution had already spread, but was fully embraced under his lead. The country itself has little coal, which played a strong role in determining their future allies. England, an obvious one, the two nations shared a leader at one point. The Hanoverian league were a fellow Germanic nation, and had vast reserves of the key ingredient for industrialization. Of course, they wouldn't give this up for nothing. Non-aggression and the supplying of thinkers and merchants to Hanover's developing economy was just the beginning of what would come to be a great alliance. The Dutch East India Company went bankrupt under his rule, and were then nationalised, bringing in huge revenue. French Guyana was taken under his direction, which was easy enough when France itself was undergoing effective anarchy for about 10 years.
William V's son, William I funnily enough, took the position after his father and completely changed the nation. He declared it a kingdom. He and his forefathers were already princes, so the declaration simply made it official. Benefits from this decision were few, easier alliances were one. If a friendly nation too had a king, what reason was there to no marry in? None of this had happened yet though. The colonies were secured under William's rule, with extra men being drafted from among the Guyanese to hold the newly acquired territory. The East Indies have had a huge naval increase, due to both the economic reasons for holding the land, and how important they were for reaching Asia. The military has seen modernization and better training enforced, mostly for plans to liberate the Flemish.
With alliances becoming stronger every day, and industrialization becoming more and more widespread each year, the Kingdom of the Netherlands is looking to be a strong player in the world to come.
Population of entire empire: About 22 million in total, with 3.5 million in the Netherlands itself.

Finished.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:56 pm

Quotes are really annoying to use sometimes, especially when they become really big.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Postby New Granadeseret » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:54 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:Finished.

plz accept


Too much boat. Your navy is bigger then the British Empire's.
Stannis was robbed.

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Postby New Granadeseret » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:59 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I will support the French annexation of Wallonia.

You suck. Belgium must be free from all nations!


Wallonia was the first fully industrized region of Europe IRL, and contains many of the Low Country's most affluent capitalists... so it is a pretty juicy prize. I can't blame the Frenchmen for wanting it.

Also, the Ottoman Empire's first post is coming up soon. I suppose we'll probably have to start whooing one power or another (not Russia); anybody in particular interested? And sorry Victoria... but if everything goes right there shall be no lake named after you.
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Postby Kargintina » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:10 pm

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:20 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:
The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:You suck. Belgium must be free from all nations!


Wallonia was the first fully industrized region of Europe IRL, and contains many of the Low Country's most affluent capitalists... so it is a pretty juicy prize. I can't blame the Frenchmen for wanting it.

Also, the Ottoman Empire's first post is coming up soon. I suppose we'll probably have to start whooing one power or another (not Russia); anybody in particular interested? And sorry Victoria... but if everything goes right there shall be no lake named after you.

I'll either rename the Okavango or the Khomas Highland after her. She needs her name on something in Africa anyway.

Hey, btw, I control the Archbishopric of Liege on the map.
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:29 pm

Why's everyone hating on Belgium? I warn you guys, anyone who takes Belgian land will be fought tooth and nail. Belgica Invicta!
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Postby New Granadeseret » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:30 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:Why's everyone hating on Belgium? I warn you guys, anyone who takes Belgian land will be fought tooth and nail. Belgica Invicta!


1. Austria hates Belgium because they want to keep the land as part of Austria
2. Netherlands hates Belgium because they believe the Flemish are Dutch, and thus should be part of The Netherlands, and that the concept of 'Belgium' denies the Flemish the right to not have to share power with Frenchies
3. France hates Belgium because they believe the Wallons are French, and thus should be part of France, and that the concept of "Belgium" denies the Wallons the right to not have to share power with the Dutchmen.
4. People who are allied with France or the Netherlands hate Belgium to align with their friends

Basically, they're hating on you because you're in their way of keeping/getting what is 'rightfully' theirs/their co-linguists.
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Postby Sanabel » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:36 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:
The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:Why's everyone hating on Belgium? I warn you guys, anyone who takes Belgian land will be fought tooth and nail. Belgica Invicta!


1. Austria hates Belgium because they want to keep the land as part of Austria
2. Netherlands hates Belgium because they believe the Flemish are Dutch, and thus should be part of The Netherlands
3. France hates Belgium because they believe the Wallons are French, and thus should be part of France
4. People who are allied with France or the Netherlands hate Belgium to align with their friends

Basically, they're hating on you because you're in their way of keeping/getting what is 'rightfully' theirs/their co-linguists.

I wouldn't mind an independent Belgium- if it were a neutral buffer.

That is, besides the part I seem to be in control of.
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Postby Kargintina » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:39 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:Why's everyone hating on Belgium? I warn you guys, anyone who takes Belgian land will be fought tooth and nail. Belgica Invicta!

Because they realistically would. I wanted foreigners to come to Japan but had to build up to it with the Emperor's coup.

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Postby Russian people of america » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:14 pm

Sorry for the wait, been having a rough day and couldn't get online. Your britain Right?
Call me Russian or RPA.

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Postby Segmentia » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:10 pm

Russian people of america wrote:Sorry for the wait, been having a rough day and couldn't get online. Your britain Right?


Yes I am.
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Postby Russian people of america » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:31 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Russian people of america wrote:Sorry for the wait, been having a rough day and couldn't get online. Your britain Right?


Yes I am.

Well alright, i'm unsure if a military alliance could be established, but i can probably make due with some sort of treat. Nonaggression pact perhaps?
Call me Russian or RPA.

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Yes, my nation has a funny name. It was originally a puppet.

I'm Declaring this nation dead. From this moment on it will live on as The Frozen Forest. This is for the sake of convenience, as i want to restart with a new, proper name.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:32 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Yes I am.

Well alright, i'm unsure if a military alliance could be established, but i can probably make due with some sort of treat. Nonaggression pact perhaps?

Is Russia stil settling the Kurils and Sakhalin?
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
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Postby Russian people of america » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:35 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Russian people of america wrote:Well alright, i'm unsure if a military alliance could be established, but i can probably make due with some sort of treat. Nonaggression pact perhaps?

Is Russia stil settling the Kurils and Sakhalin?

Not sure what time's they were actually colonized, however up till now i had assumed they were already colonized.
Call me Russian or RPA.

RP Sample's:
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Fading Songs
Shinobi RP

Yes, my nation has a funny name. It was originally a puppet.

I'm Declaring this nation dead. From this moment on it will live on as The Frozen Forest. This is for the sake of convenience, as i want to restart with a new, proper name.

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Postby Kargintina » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:40 pm

Russian people of america wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Is Russia stil settling the Kurils and Sakhalin?

Not sure what time's they were actually colonized, however up till now i had assumed they were already colonized.

IRL 1855 was the year Japan and Russia partitioned Sakhalin. IDK on Kurils.

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