The Bonaparte Absence (AH/OOC)

[Segmentia]

Who is playing as Russia?

That'd be me, watcha need?

I happen to need a major ally onthe continent. Would you be interested?

[New Granadeseret]

That'd be me, watcha need?

I happen to need a major ally onthe continent. Would you be interested?

O_O... really? Opium has next to no upfront capital costs, and you can sell it for a high price while only having to pay farmers to do what they've done for centuries. Manufactured goods, weapons (Better the Chinese can make themselves), and railroads are bloody expensive, and you have little to no means of producing them in India.

We could also sell manufactured goods at a high price. I am also trying to diversify India, I do have to think about the future of the company. If everyone's happy, from Emperor to Peasant, then there wouldn't be any future issues. I could focus on other things rather than get bogged down in a war, so I'm willing to make that concession. But because the IC China is becoming even more isolationist, well. Looks like I'll have to force open those gates with some help from Britain. So, at the end of the day, I might eventually be selling everything.

You can't produce manufactured goods at any reasonable rate, as you have no factories in India... and building them will likely set off alarm bells in G.B. After all, the British need to protect their domestic industry, and you'd be consuming scarce machinery they need for much-needed for major industrialization. Not to mention you'd need huge capital investments to build them... so doing that while you also seem to be dumping large quantities of money into education and transportation (Railroads are also bloody expensive) is not viable.

That'd be me, watcha need?

I happen to need a major ally onthe continent. Would you be interested?

Isn't it Britain really paranoid of Russia at this point in history, since its near the beginning of The Great Game and they fear Russia's southern ambitions in the direction of China and India (And, in this time line, North America due to their greater interest in Alaska)?

[Sanabel]

I happen to need a major ally onthe continent. Would you be interested?

We could also sell manufactured goods at a high price. I am also trying to diversify India, I do have to think about the future of the company. If everyone's happy, from Emperor to Peasant, then there wouldn't be any future issues. I could focus on other things rather than get bogged down in a war, so I'm willing to make that concession. But because the IC China is becoming even more isolationist, well. Looks like I'll have to force open those gates with some help from Britain. So, at the end of the day, I might eventually be selling everything.

You can't produce manufactured goods at any reasonable rate, as you have no factories in India... and building them will likely set off alarm bells in G.B. After all, the British need to protect their domestic industry, and you'd be consuming scarce machinery they need for much-needed for major industrialization. Not to mention you'd need huge capital investments to build them... so doing that while you also seem to be dumping large quantities of money into education and transportation (Railroads are also bloody expensive) is not viable.

I happen to need a major ally onthe continent. Would you be interested?

Isn't it Britain really paranoid of Russia at this point in history, since its near the beginning of The Great Game and they fear Russia's southern ambitions in the direction of China and India (And, in this time line, North America due to their greater interest in Alaska)?

One would think British support of Japan is a means to extend the Great Game to the Far East; Britain could help keep Russia out of Sakhalin and the Kurils.

[British Prussia]

We could also sell manufactured goods at a high price. I am also trying to diversify India, I do have to think about the future of the company. If everyone's happy, from Emperor to Peasant, then there wouldn't be any future issues. I could focus on other things rather than get bogged down in a war, so I'm willing to make that concession. But because the IC China is becoming even more isolationist, well. Looks like I'll have to force open those gates with some help from Britain. So, at the end of the day, I might eventually be selling everything.

You can't produce manufactured goods at any reasonable rate, as you have no factories in India... and building them will likely set off alarm bells in G.B. After all, the British need to protect their domestic industry, and you'd be consuming scarce machinery they need for much-needed for major industrialization. Not to mention you'd need huge capital investments to build them... so doing that while you also seem to be dumping large quantities of money into education and transportation (Railroads are also bloody expensive) is not viable.

Yes, I'm very well aware what happened to the British economy when India started to manufacture their own things post-Colonialism, but luckily I'm not Britain, I'm the EIC. A company that desires it's own profits above all, whist walking on that fine line Britain gives me. I don't need to be a huge industrial power, I was planning only to be a small one and lean on Britain for the rest. Besides, while I'm obligated to dump money into India, I'll make it up in the long run, and I'm anticipating a huge payoff in Asia anyway. Be it China, the Philippines, Japan, or all of them... Hehehe.

But you have given food for thought. Perhaps I should make a move to acquire some factories in Britain. I'll leave that for later. Perhaps in the 1860's.

That'd be me, watcha need?

I happen to need a major ally on the continent. Would you be interested?

Bit strange going to Russia for help. There's always the EIC. Besides, be weary of the Russians... Crimean War!

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Bit strange going to Russia for help. There's always the EIC. Besides, be weary of the Russians... Crimean War!

I would expect the EIC to aid Britain in the event of a major war regardless, honestly. Wouldn't want to lose all that favorable treatment back in London after all. And currently Russia is the strongest choice. Prussia seems to be in an iffy spot and seems like they may get into a war or two shortly, where as Russia doesn't seem as likely to.

[Sanabel]

Bit strange going to Russia for help. There's always the EIC. Besides, be weary of the Russians... Crimean War!

I would expect the EIC to aid Britain in the event of a major war regardless, honestly. Wouldn't want to lose all that favorable treatment back in London after all. And currently Russia is the strongest choice. Prussia seems to be in an iffy spot and seems like they may get into a war or two shortly, where as Russia doesn't seem as likely to.

You've always got me, old chap.

[Segmentia]

I would expect the EIC to aid Britain in the event of a major war regardless, honestly. Wouldn't want to lose all that favorable treatment back in London after all. And currently Russia is the strongest choice. Prussia seems to be in an iffy spot and seems like they may get into a war or two shortly, where as Russia doesn't seem as likely to.

You've always got me, old chap.

Of course

[British Prussia]

Bit strange going to Russia for help. There's always the EIC. Besides, be weary of the Russians... Crimean War!

I would expect the EIC to aid Britain in the event of a major war regardless, honestly. Wouldn't want to lose all that favorable treatment back in London after all. And currently Russia is the strongest choice. Prussia seems to be in an iffy spot and seems like they may get into a war or two shortly, where as Russia doesn't seem as likely to.

Well, I've prepared my troops, the new merchant fleet will be constructed soon, by the time you get in a conflict we should be ready. I'll be focusing on uniting India before looking outwards. I'm counting on you to be the battering ram for those favourable agreements.

[New Granadeseret]

Bit strange going to Russia for help. There's always the EIC. Besides, be weary of the Russians... Crimean War!

I would expect the EIC to aid Britain in the event of a major war regardless, honestly. Wouldn't want to lose all that favorable treatment back in London after all. And currently Russia is the strongest choice. Prussia seems to be in an iffy spot and seems like they may get into a war or two shortly, where as Russia doesn't seem as likely to.

Key word here being strongest... and therefore the biggest threat to British dominance in many of the areas Britain wants dominance. (Cascadia, India, Japan, China), and is arguably the most powerful nation on the continent. It just seems like a bit of an... odd choice.

[New Finnish Republic]

Bit strange going to Russia for help. There's always the EIC. Besides, be weary of the Russians... Crimean War!

I would expect the EIC to aid Britain in the event of a major war regardless, honestly. Wouldn't want to lose all that favorable treatment back in London after all. And currently Russia is the strongest choice. Prussia seems to be in an iffy spot and seems like they may get into a war or two shortly, where as Russia doesn't seem as likely to.

Pssh, Prussia getting into a war in the near future? Never.

[Segmentia]

I would expect the EIC to aid Britain in the event of a major war regardless, honestly. Wouldn't want to lose all that favorable treatment back in London after all. And currently Russia is the strongest choice. Prussia seems to be in an iffy spot and seems like they may get into a war or two shortly, where as Russia doesn't seem as likely to.

Key word here being strongest... and therefore the biggest threat to British dominance in many of the areas Britain wants dominance. (Cascadia, India, Japan, China), and is arguably the most powerful nation on the continent. It just seems like a bit of an... odd choice.

Odd choices do tend to happen in alternative history rps, but we'll see how it goes. If Russian people of America ICly decides to pursue an aggressive stance towards those areas then obviously any alliance would be short lived, if one ever came about. If ICly he does not do so it would make a decent amount of sense, considering I have both Spain and France as primary rivals, and I'm not entirely sure where the other European powers stand, other then the Hanoverian League of course.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Ok I decided what I am going to do, in Philippines.

[New Granadeseret]

Key word here being strongest... and therefore the biggest threat to British dominance in many of the areas Britain wants dominance. (Cascadia, India, Japan, China), and is arguably the most powerful nation on the continent. It just seems like a bit of an... odd choice.

Odd choices do tend to happen in alternative history rps, but we'll see how it goes. If Russian people of America ICly decides to pursue an aggressive stance towards those areas then obviously any alliance would be short lived, if one ever came about. If ICly he does not do so it would make a decent amount of sense, considering I have both Spain and France as primary rivals, and I'm not entirely sure where the other European powers stand, other then the Hanoverian League of course.

Go ahead. I look forward to seeing how it turns out

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

You do realize you own Liége, right? Part of my claimed territory?

Yes, but I might cede it to create a buffer with France.

Wont happen if you try anything violent. If need be, I can make note of this ic.

Hmmm...
Deal. On top of that, if you would provide me with some firearms and supplies, I would ally with you after I become independent. Not an insane amount of stuff, but a good amount. You can choose how much you give me if you're game.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Yes, but I might cede it to create a buffer with France.

Wont happen if you try anything violent. If need be, I can make note of this ic.

Hmmm...
Deal. On top of that, if you would provide me with some firearms and supplies, I would ally with you after I become independent. Not an insane amount of stuff, but a good amount. You can choose how much you give me if you're game.

I will support the French annexation of Wallonia.

[Sanabel]

Yes, but I might cede it to create a buffer with France.

Wont happen if you try anything violent. If need be, I can make note of this ic.

Hmmm...
Deal. On top of that, if you would provide me with some firearms and supplies, I would ally with you after I become independent. Not an insane amount of stuff, but a good amount. You can choose how much you give me if you're game.

I'll need to think about this.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Hmmm...
Deal. On top of that, if you would provide me with some firearms and supplies, I would ally with you after I become independent. Not an insane amount of stuff, but a good amount. You can choose how much you give me if you're game.

I will support the French annexation of Wallonia.

You suck. Belgium must be free from all nations!

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Shh.... it will all be over soon, I will probably send one or two ships to help the French in Belgium.

[Segmentia]

I will support the French annexation of Wallonia.

You suck. Belgium must be free from all nations!

Don't worry, Spain has plenty of its own problems.

[The Peoples East Africa]

Hmmm...
Deal. On top of that, if you would provide me with some firearms and supplies, I would ally with you after I become independent. Not an insane amount of stuff, but a good amount. You can choose how much you give me if you're game.

I will support the French annexation of Wallonia.

Any opinion on the Dutch annexation of Flanders? If we don't take all of Belgium, then this terrorist group will continue on to terrorise.

[Kargintina]

You Europeans and your quarrels tisk tisk.

[Sanabel]

I will support the French annexation of Wallonia.

Any opinion on the Dutch annexation of Flanders? If we don't take all of Belgium, then this terrorist group will continue on to terrorise.

I would maybe.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

I am impartial to Dutch annexation of Flanders, but what would happen to Brussels.

[The Peoples East Africa]

Any opinion on the Dutch annexation of Flanders? If we don't take all of Belgium, then this terrorist group will continue on to terrorise.

I would maybe.

Danke, we Germanics must stick together.

[The Peoples East Africa]

I am impartial to Dutch annexation of Flanders, but what would happen to Brussels.

Better impartial than against I suppose. Eh, we burn it to the ground,