PL: The EPIC OOC - closed thread

[Torsiedelle]

Gio's pics are "d'aw" on another level.

Guess who's up at...5:26AM? Gonna skim IC then go to bed, lol.

[Stormwrath]

Heh, kek.

@Tori: I'm gonna draft a PLost to move our arc along if that's all right with you. @Any of the Co-OPs: any idea of what the woods are like or do we have the freedom to make stuff up as we go?

[Monfrox]

What a time to be alive

Too bad I don't use GPS or have a smart phone.

[Cerillium]

What a time to be alive

Too bad I don't use GPS or have a smart phone.

Agreed.

Meanwhile, in Kyrgystan...

[Northwest Slobovia]

Meanwhile, in Kyrgystan...

Yay, Buzkash! I've seen a monument to the sport; it doesn't look much different than the picture.

[Cerillium]

Meanwhile, in Kyrgystan...

Yay, Buzkash! I've seen a monument to the sport; it doesn't look much different than the picture.

Makes me want to get a PT nation version going in NS Sports.

[Monfrox]

Yay, Buzkash! I've seen a monument to the sport; it doesn't look much different than the picture.

Makes me want to get a PT nation version going in NS Sports.

With Steven Seagal?

[Cerillium]

Makes me want to get a PT nation version going in NS Sports.

With Steven Seagal?

With Steven Seagal.

Also, Duster's Song of Wonders is identical to Sprite's Song of Wonders when I took her to Disney a few years ago. Just recently, the Song of Wonders was re-released for Legoland.

[Giovenith]

With Steven Seagal?

With Steven Seagal.

Also, Duster's Song of Wonders is identical to Sprite's Song of Wonders when I took her to Disney a few years ago. Just recently, the Song of Wonders was re-released for Legoland.

My own nine year old has been up to mischief.

Mom: *chilling, reading phone*
Brother: Mama?
Mom: Yes honey?
Brother: What's the black plague?
Mom: ...
Brother: ...
Mom: ... You know, this is a better question for your sister.

[Northwest Slobovia]

I advanced the Littles tour a tiny bit to answer Henry's questions. I haven't forgotten Thad's question, but he's done his book shopping, so he's a little ahead of the others in time. I'd like to let Sal and AA buy books for their characters before I catch up with Thad.

@Sal and AA: Please post your characters' book shopping along with any questions your characters have in the book shop.

@Cer: The Building link in the OOC first post is broken, because that post was moved to the archive. It should point to this post: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p29555719

[Ganonsyoni]

Was writing a post, but realized I need to chat with an OP or Co-OP to clarify some things regarding Kale. I can't TG, so the IRC would be most convenient for me.

[Mincaldenteans]

Was writing a post, but realized I need to chat with an OP or Co-OP to clarify some things regarding Kale. I can't TG, so the IRC would be most convenient for me.

Did you get your inquiry addressed? If not post it here please, thanks ^_^

[Ganonsyoni]

Was writing a post, but realized I need to chat with an OP or Co-OP to clarify some things regarding Kale. I can't TG, so the IRC would be most convenient for me.

Did you get your inquiry addressed? If not post it here please, thanks ^_^

I talked with Tilt about it. I'm gonna make a post clarifying what we discussed on the IRC

[Ganonsyoni]

Tilt and I discussed in detail an ability Kale had that didn't fit under her plant manipulation ability. After discussing for a bit, I found a reasonable description of its use.

Ability 2: Life Detection (Plants) (On Touch) (Magic/Mystical)
Power Level: 3
Strengths: By touching an object or surface, Kale can detect if there is plant life located somewhere on it, connected to it, or in it. She can also tell what plants she is sensing, where they are, how many there are, and how far they are from her. For example, she can sense seeds below the surface by touching the earth, or the trees on the far end of the forest. Her range is based upon how much energy (stamina) she uses and what material she is touching. The simplest material to travel through is plants themselves (interconnecting roots, vines, touching branches), the next being organic earth/dead plants. Rocky/Sandy earth is middle ground, solid rock/concrete being the second most difficult, and hardest being metal. She can also sense in a directional way (one direction) or radial way (around her), with the latter being half the distance of the former. For example, a low intensity search through plants allows her to see plants up to 500 feet in one direction, or 250 ft around her. A high intensity search with the same material would allow her to see plants 2000 ft in one direction, while a radial would be 1000 feet. In a more difficult material like sand, a low intensity search would allow her to see plants 50 feet in one direction while a radial would only be 25 feet around her.
General Distances per material (Rough Estimates):
1- Plants:
Low- 500 ft directional, 250 ft radial; High- 2000 ft directional, 1000 ft radial
2- Organic Earth/Dead Organic Matter:
Low- 250 ft directional, 125 ft radial; High- 1000 ft directional, 500 ft radial
3- Rocky/Sandy Earth:
Low- 100 ft directional, 50 ft radial; High- 300 ft directional, 150 ft radial
4- Solid Rock/Concrete/asphalt:
Low- 10 ft directional, 5 ft radial; High- 20 ft directional, 10 ft radial
5- Metal:
Low- Not possible; High- 2 ft directional, 1 ft radial.
Her detection can go through multiple tiers of material, furthering or lessening her range. For example, if she senses through a barren patch of soil but comes across plants that interconnect, her sensing would follow it and further its distance and decrease energy usage. On the flipside, if she is sensing through soil but comes into contact with solid rock, it'll lessen her sensing range and increase her energy usage. When she is sensing in one direction, she can choose to continue sensing through more resistant material or follow through the material of least resistance. She can also change the direction of her directional sensing, but it can only go through the maximum distance When she is sensing radially, it goes through whatever material surrounding her, regardless of tier. This can limit her radial range in some direction but further it in others, whilst either increasing or decreasing her energy usage based on which material it overall went through.

Subject to change: When using her directional sensing, she can roughly tell what the terrain is by what material she goes through. For example, she can tell roughly what soil depth by sensing downward and reading the resistance. Also, she can tell if there is a material she can't sense through directionally. For example, searching through a wall directionally and being stopped means there is air, water, or another material she can't sense through on the other side.

Weaknesses: It takes more energy for her to search through a higher tier material than a lower tier one. A low intensity search through plants take less energy than a low intensity search through concrete. A high intensity search through metal is a lot more draining than a high intensity search through organic earth. Her distance is reduced the higher up the tier she goes.
Restrictions: She must touch a solid object or surface to use her detection ability (IE no air, water, or void). Her sensing cannot go through water, air, or void.
Summary:
Directional: Travels in one direction. Direction can be changed at any time. Max distance is subject to material and energy usage. Subject to Change: Can be used to roughly read terrain.
Radial: Travels in all directions around Kale. Half the max distance of Directional. Max distance is subject to material and energy usage. Cannot change direction. Goes through all material surrounding Kale regardless of resistance.
The longer the distance, the more energy it takes. The higher tier of material the more energy it takes and the lesser it goes. The lower the material the lesser energy it takes and the farther it can go. Kale's maximum, with the most ideal material to go through, is 2000 feet.

I realized through writing this up that I had more thoughts on what this ability could do based on how I envisioned it working. I would like some criticism and ideas. Gonna be on later tonight so I'll hear them then.

[Swith Witherward]

Tilt and I discussed in detail an ability Kale had that didn't fit under her plant manipulation ability. After discussing for a bit, I found a reasonable description of its use.

Ability 2: Life Detection (Plants) (On Touch) (Magic/Mystical)
Power Level: 3
Strengths: By touching an object or surface, Kale can detect if there is plant life located somewhere on it, connected to it, or in it. She can also tell what plants she is sensing, where they are, how many there are, and how far they are from her. For example, she can sense seeds below the surface by touching the earth, or the trees on the far end of the forest. Her range is based upon how much energy (stamina) she uses and what material she is touching. The simplest material to travel through is plants themselves (interconnecting roots, vines, touching branches), the next being organic earth/dead plants. Rocky/Sandy earth is middle ground, solid rock/concrete being the second most difficult, and hardest being metal. She can also sense in a directional way (one direction) or radial way (around her), with the latter being half the distance of the former. For example, a low intensity search through plants allows her to see plants up to 500 feet in one direction, or 250 ft around her. A high intensity search with the same material would allow her to see plants 2000 ft in one direction, while a radial would be 1000 feet. In a more difficult material like sand, a low intensity search would allow her to see plants 50 feet in one direction while a radial would only be 25 feet around her.
General Distances per material (Rough Estimates):
1- Plants:
Low- 500 ft directional, 250 ft radial; High- 2000 ft directional, 1000 ft radial
2- Organic Earth/Dead Organic Matter:
Low- 250 ft directional, 125 ft radial; High- 1000 ft directional, 500 ft radial
3- Rocky/Sandy Earth:
Low- 100 ft directional, 50 ft radial; High- 300 ft directional, 150 ft radial
4- Solid Rock/Concrete/asphalt:
Low- 10 ft directional, 5 ft radial; High- 20 ft directional, 10 ft radial
5- Metal:
Low- Not possible; High- 2 ft directional, 1 ft radial.
Her detection can go through multiple tiers of material, furthering or lessening her range. For example, if she senses through a barren patch of soil but comes across plants that interconnect, her sensing would follow it and further its distance and decrease energy usage. On the flipside, if she is sensing through soil but comes into contact with solid rock, it'll lessen her sensing range and increase her energy usage. When she is sensing in one direction, she can choose to continue sensing through more resistant material or follow through the material of least resistance. She can also change the direction of her directional sensing, but it can only go through the maximum distance When she is sensing radially, it goes through whatever material surrounding her, regardless of tier. This can limit her radial range in some direction but further it in others, whilst either increasing or decreasing her energy usage based on which material it overall went through.

Subject to change: When using her directional sensing, she can roughly tell what the terrain is by what material she goes through. For example, she can tell roughly what soil depth by sensing downward and reading the resistance. Also, she can tell if there is a material she can't sense through directionally. For example, searching through a wall directionally and being stopped means there is air, water, or another material she can't sense through on the other side.

Weaknesses: It takes more energy for her to search through a higher tier material than a lower tier one. A low intensity search through plants take less energy than a low intensity search through concrete. A high intensity search through metal is a lot more draining than a high intensity search through organic earth. Her distance is reduced the higher up the tier she goes.
Restrictions: She must touch a solid object or surface to use her detection ability (IE no air, water, or void). Her sensing cannot go through water, air, or void.
Summary:
Directional: Travels in one direction. Direction can be changed at any time. Max distance is subject to material and energy usage. Subject to Change: Can be used to roughly read terrain.
Radial: Travels in all directions around Kale. Half the max distance of Directional. Max distance is subject to material and energy usage. Cannot change direction. Goes through all material surrounding Kale regardless of resistance.
The longer the distance, the more energy it takes. The higher tier of material the more energy it takes and the lesser it goes. The lower the material the lesser energy it takes and the farther it can go. Kale's maximum, with the most ideal material to go through, is 2000 feet.

I realized through writing this up that I had more thoughts on what this ability could do based on how I envisioned it working. I would like some criticism and ideas. Gonna be on later tonight so I'll hear them then.

It's a cool concept. I like it. But it all comes down to how you use it IC, and understanding if someone is GMing and asks you not to use it (they plan to have the characters lost, or need them to do stuff for their own growth etc). Also, he might ask you to shave a few off Plant Manipulation (which is ungodly high anyway) to incorporate this. Coupled with plant manipulation, this is absolutely deadly.

I can't speak entirely for the Wold. I know there is a lot of magic in there. Reaching out might actually harm Kale, and it will alert the Wold and its sensitive denizens to her presence. The woodland, IIRC, is a lot like Pando. Would Kale use the power only to discover feeling like she's in a giant box with everything being interconnected and the same?

There are spots in the Outermark that aren't nullifying to magic, but the vegetation is not what it seems. As Neste pointed out to Brother Itum ages ago after he strolled through an embassy biogarden, "The clematis doesn't like you". She'll need to be very careful if she uses it there.

If Cer approves it, I'll TG you to let you in on some of the secrets regarding the land surrounding the Building. Squee! This is such a useful skill for Kale to have!

Speaking of our fearless leader... the last two workdays have been evil. He probably won't be on to review stuff until tomorrow or the next day.

[Northwest Slobovia]

Also, he might ask you to shave a few off Plant Manipulation (which is ungodly high anyway) to incorporate this.

Or Kale could spend game time -- both IC and during skips -- learning the ability from Power 1 (and almost no range or sensitivity). That's worked for Sandy.

If Cer approves it, I'll TG you to let you in on some of the secrets regarding the land surrounding the Building. Squee!

Is this the mess I made, or have you made your own messes there?

[Holy Lykos]

Also, he might ask you to shave a few off Plant Manipulation (which is ungodly high anyway) to incorporate this.

Or Kale could spend game time -- both IC and during skips -- learning the ability from Power 1 (and almost no range or sensitivity). That's worked for Sandy.

If Cer approves it, I'll TG you to let you in on some of the secrets regarding the land surrounding the Building. Squee!

Is this the mess I made, or have you made your own messes there?

we've all made messes. I'm just sad the crazy plant I designed got destroyed sometime or another while I was gone

[Northwest Slobovia]

Or Kale could spend game time -- both IC and during skips -- learning the ability from Power 1 (and almost no range or sensitivity). That's worked for Sandy.


Is this the mess I made, or have you made your own messes there?

we've all made messes. I'm just sad the crazy plant I designed got destroyed sometime or another while I was gone

More messes? Excellent!

[Swith Witherward]

Gio, I loved your post! The story intensifies!

Also, he might ask you to shave a few off Plant Manipulation (which is ungodly high anyway) to incorporate this.

Or Kale could spend game time -- both IC and during skips -- learning the ability from Power 1 (and almost no range or sensitivity). That's worked for Sandy.

If Cer approves it, I'll TG you to let you in on some of the secrets regarding the land surrounding the Building. Squee!

Is this the mess I made, or have you made your own messes there?

A gradual approach IC would be fun.

It's our mess. Your mess is messy but not necessarily messed up, whereas our messy mess necessitates necessary mass mess maneuvering.

[Holy Lykos]

we've all made messes. I'm just sad the crazy plant I designed got destroyed sometime or another while I was gone

More messes? Excellent!

Was from my old SCP events. A crazy plant that expanded like crazy over land and took weedkiller to beat.

Just simple weedkiller. its allergic

It'd make sense that Mag's been working on his force powers in his downtime. I could do a post talking about some stuff he's been doing, along with some of his business stuff.

Same with Sakarias? Neither of them have done anything in months IRL time Same with Sterling.

[Northwest Slobovia]

Is this the mess I made, or have you made your own messes there?

It's our mess. Your mess is messy but not necessarily messed up, whereas our messy mess necessitates necessary mass mess maneuvering.

*gets the message*

[Fvaarniimar]

Also, he might ask you to shave a few off Plant Manipulation (which is ungodly high anyway) to incorporate this.

The level is in fact ungodly. Gods are several levels higher

[Ganonsyoni]

Tilt and I discussed in detail an ability Kale had that didn't fit under her plant manipulation ability. After discussing for a bit, I found a reasonable description of its use.

Ability 2: Life Detection (Plants) (On Touch) (Magic/Mystical)
Power Level: 3
Strengths: By touching an object or surface, Kale can detect if there is plant life located somewhere on it, connected to it, or in it. She can also tell what plants she is sensing, where they are, how many there are, and how far they are from her. For example, she can sense seeds below the surface by touching the earth, or the trees on the far end of the forest. Her range is based upon how much energy (stamina) she uses and what material she is touching. The simplest material to travel through is plants themselves (interconnecting roots, vines, touching branches), the next being organic earth/dead plants. Rocky/Sandy earth is middle ground, solid rock/concrete being the second most difficult, and hardest being metal. She can also sense in a directional way (one direction) or radial way (around her), with the latter being half the distance of the former. For example, a low intensity search through plants allows her to see plants up to 500 feet in one direction, or 250 ft around her. A high intensity search with the same material would allow her to see plants 2000 ft in one direction, while a radial would be 1000 feet. In a more difficult material like sand, a low intensity search would allow her to see plants 50 feet in one direction while a radial would only be 25 feet around her.
General Distances per material (Rough Estimates):
1- Plants:
Low- 500 ft directional, 250 ft radial; High- 2000 ft directional, 1000 ft radial
2- Organic Earth/Dead Organic Matter:
Low- 250 ft directional, 125 ft radial; High- 1000 ft directional, 500 ft radial
3- Rocky/Sandy Earth:
Low- 100 ft directional, 50 ft radial; High- 300 ft directional, 150 ft radial
4- Solid Rock/Concrete/asphalt:
Low- 10 ft directional, 5 ft radial; High- 20 ft directional, 10 ft radial
5- Metal:
Low- Not possible; High- 2 ft directional, 1 ft radial.
Her detection can go through multiple tiers of material, furthering or lessening her range. For example, if she senses through a barren patch of soil but comes across plants that interconnect, her sensing would follow it and further its distance and decrease energy usage. On the flipside, if she is sensing through soil but comes into contact with solid rock, it'll lessen her sensing range and increase her energy usage. When she is sensing in one direction, she can choose to continue sensing through more resistant material or follow through the material of least resistance. She can also change the direction of her directional sensing, but it can only go through the maximum distance When she is sensing radially, it goes through whatever material surrounding her, regardless of tier. This can limit her radial range in some direction but further it in others, whilst either increasing or decreasing her energy usage based on which material it overall went through.

Subject to change: When using her directional sensing, she can roughly tell what the terrain is by what material she goes through. For example, she can tell roughly what soil depth by sensing downward and reading the resistance. Also, she can tell if there is a material she can't sense through directionally. For example, searching through a wall directionally and being stopped means there is air, water, or another material she can't sense through on the other side.

Weaknesses: It takes more energy for her to search through a higher tier material than a lower tier one. A low intensity search through plants take less energy than a low intensity search through concrete. A high intensity search through metal is a lot more draining than a high intensity search through organic earth. Her distance is reduced the higher up the tier she goes.
Restrictions: She must touch a solid object or surface to use her detection ability (IE no air, water, or void). Her sensing cannot go through water, air, or void.
Summary:
Directional: Travels in one direction. Direction can be changed at any time. Max distance is subject to material and energy usage. Subject to Change: Can be used to roughly read terrain.
Radial: Travels in all directions around Kale. Half the max distance of Directional. Max distance is subject to material and energy usage. Cannot change direction. Goes through all material surrounding Kale regardless of resistance.
The longer the distance, the more energy it takes. The higher tier of material the more energy it takes and the lesser it goes. The lower the material the lesser energy it takes and the farther it can go. Kale's maximum, with the most ideal material to go through, is 2000 feet.

I realized through writing this up that I had more thoughts on what this ability could do based on how I envisioned it working. I would like some criticism and ideas. Gonna be on later tonight so I'll hear them then.

It's a cool concept. I like it. But it all comes down to how you use it IC, and understanding if someone is GMing and asks you not to use it (they plan to have the characters lost, or need them to do stuff for their own growth etc). Also, he might ask you to shave a few off Plant Manipulation (which is ungodly high anyway) to incorporate this. Coupled with plant manipulation, this is absolutely deadly.

I can't speak entirely for the Wold. I know there is a lot of magic in there. Reaching out might actually harm Kale, and it will alert the Wold and its sensitive denizens to her presence. The woodland, IIRC, is a lot like Pando. Would Kale use the power only to discover feeling like she's in a giant box with everything being interconnected and the same?

There are spots in the Outermark that aren't nullifying to magic, but the vegetation is not what it seems. As Neste pointed out to Brother Itum ages ago after he strolled through an embassy biogarden, "The clematis doesn't like you". She'll need to be very careful if she uses it there.

If Cer approves it, I'll TG you to let you in on some of the secrets regarding the land surrounding the Building. Squee! This is such a useful skill for Kale to have!

Speaking of our fearless leader... the last two workdays have been evil. He probably won't be on to review stuff until tomorrow or the next day.

Yes, that would make sense. She is searching through plants, and some who might detect the magic might not take kindly to that encroachment. Even if she is searching through earth, "smart plants" could feel it brushing past their roots. Also, the power is just finally defining something she already did before (feeling no life around her/ reading plants with a touch but that wasn't covered by her manipulation ability).

Also, thought of another weakness. It isn't instantaneous. It goes at a speed depending on material. It can go 200 feet a second if searching through plants. So a rough estimate would be 10 seconds to go maximum distance for each material.

And to the "being lost/trapped" concept. Instead of straight up stopping, the directional search could instead change direction randomly. So if she scans through a wall, hits air, the scan would go up or down or left or upper left. It would technically o the same thing, but it would take a few attempts to discern this and use up more stamina.

How I envision this working is, to use a Naruto reference (I know I'm such a nerd for the show ), Shikamaru's Shadow Possession. His shadow goes at a certain speed and his range is dependent on certain conditions. Kale's life detection would act similarly, but instead of being limited by shadow she is limited by material (and how much energy she uses). The higher tier the material, the more resistant to scanning it is, decreasing range and increasing energy spent. Plus, its not a visible scan and the directional scan is closest to this example. The radial scan is different.

And 8 is really high. Take out the points from there and reassign to this. I thought a 3 was reasonable because she can scan pretty far on good conditions and exemplify the difficulty of scanning through high tier material like metal. Even an average user who practiced well enough can't go through metal without a lot of energy use. But given that she only used it a couple times in the RP (Used it once during Apoc Zalgo and another after the first assault on the Building), it can be a level 1 power. Of course, everything is scaled down to fit. Also, it might be better to classify this as a life scan/search because she can read/tell what plant/plants she has scanned.

[Chedastan]

Sorry for a lack of plost from me, NA, I will try to make one tonight.

[CAT XIII]

Whenever I post on my OOC or IC right now, it shows up twice in my topics box (the one you see when you click "View your posts", I can't explain things well lol).

It's not a problem but it's weird, does anyone else experience anything similar to this?