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Skip the jailbreak mission, do the Russia break in mission, get to the main plot
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Postby Dilange » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:28 pm

Wait, why cant Kadus just under go a mind wipe like Davenport....but there is just an "technological issue"? Technically, punishment is still recorded as achieved without any death of the character.

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Postby Arstotzkas » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:28 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Unified Free Lands wrote:I'm not retconning, if we don't go ahead with this plot I'm going to have the Jupiter blow the doors off the hangar and have Mercury override the lift to the runway so they can leave.

Then Moore would just gas the dining hall and kill all the students, which no one wants.



Pretty sure most students would survive.

Also as a punishment couldn't the teachers strip away the rebel's powers or something?
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:28 pm

Bycrest wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Then Moore would just gas the dining hall and kill all the students, which no one wants.

That's probably what most of the students would expect so they probably came prepared for that.

Why would they? They'd have no reason to: it was only a dinner party.
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:29 pm

Dilange wrote:Wait, why cant Kadus just under go a mind wipe like Davenport....but there is just an "technological issue"? Technically, punishment is still recorded as achieved without any death of the character.

Because I'm not losing her entire personality. This also doesn't help Loki stay alive.
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Postby Unified Free Lands » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:29 pm

Doughertania wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Though they're still not dying. Or at least, mine aren't.

I don't care if they are or not. I'm just thinking of a way to keep the students in the RP if they rebel. They could be punished severely, then given magic/mechanic countermeasures if they try to misbehave again. Like a bio bomb in the brain or something. I honestly think a Suicide Squad thing would be a cool thing to have.

Or maybe brainwashing? Question has some powerful telepaths on his payroll, right?

Unified Free Lands wrote:The thing is, the school wouldn't have a reason to keep them alive. We haven't had any suicide missions either because concealing the League's activities is a pretty major thing, that's why the staff were so angry when the students uncloaked on one of the missions earlier.

Maybe they are kept around because the school doesn't want to waste talent? Super villains are hard to come by? Or maybe they're kept as test subjects for experiments and sparring practice? I'm just trying to think of ways so Coraspia can have his war.

The problem is that if there's as many students as there are and only a small number rebel, there's not really a reason why the school would think they're worth keeping around.

IDK I could break the canon, one of the more important things in the canon, and have a non lethal punishment that doesn't involve expulsion, but the players probably wouldn't want to keep playing their characters if they got all the worst tasks. It would quite literally become a living hell.
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Postby Dilange » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:30 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Dilange wrote:Wait, why cant Kadus just under go a mind wipe like Davenport....but there is just an "technological issue"? Technically, punishment is still recorded as achieved without any death of the character.

Because I'm not losing her entire personality. This also doesn't help Loki stay alive.

Thats why I said "technological issue", hence something goes wrong AKA NOT KILLING THE CHARACTER OR HER PERSONALITY.

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Postby Dilange » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:31 pm

Unified Free Lands wrote:
Doughertania wrote:I don't care if they are or not. I'm just thinking of a way to keep the students in the RP if they rebel. They could be punished severely, then given magic/mechanic countermeasures if they try to misbehave again. Like a bio bomb in the brain or something. I honestly think a Suicide Squad thing would be a cool thing to have.

Or maybe brainwashing? Question has some powerful telepaths on his payroll, right?


Maybe they are kept around because the school doesn't want to waste talent? Super villains are hard to come by? Or maybe they're kept as test subjects for experiments and sparring practice? I'm just trying to think of ways so Coraspia can have his war.

The problem is that if there's as many students as there are and only a small number rebel, there's not really a reason why the school would think they're worth keeping around.

IDK I could break the canon, one of the more important things in the canon, and have a non lethal punishment that doesn't involve expulsion, but the players probably wouldn't want to keep playing their characters if they got all the worst tasks. It would quite literally become a living hell.


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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:31 pm

Dilange wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Because I'm not losing her entire personality. This also doesn't help Loki stay alive.

Thats why I said "technological issue", hence something goes wrong AKA NOT KILLING THE CHARACTER OR HER PERSONALITY.

Karl could make the issue happen
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:32 pm

Unified Free Lands wrote:
Doughertania wrote:I don't care if they are or not. I'm just thinking of a way to keep the students in the RP if they rebel. They could be punished severely, then given magic/mechanic countermeasures if they try to misbehave again. Like a bio bomb in the brain or something. I honestly think a Suicide Squad thing would be a cool thing to have.

Or maybe brainwashing? Question has some powerful telepaths on his payroll, right?


Maybe they are kept around because the school doesn't want to waste talent? Super villains are hard to come by? Or maybe they're kept as test subjects for experiments and sparring practice? I'm just trying to think of ways so Coraspia can have his war.

The problem is that if there's as many students as there are and only a small number rebel, there's not really a reason why the school would think they're worth keeping around.

IDK I could break the canon, one of the more important things in the canon, and have a non lethal punishment that doesn't involve expulsion, but the players probably wouldn't want to keep playing their characters if they got all the worst tasks. It would quite literally become a living hell.

And if we're doing that then their's no way in hell I'll be the only person doing it.
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:33 pm

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:34 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Charlia wrote:I imagine Alice would be being (covertly) studied. She's not exactly a normal super, after all.

And I imagine Loki would be gamebreakingly powerful.

Besides, if they tried to expel him, he'd just keep fighting, and stopping an immortal might be hard.


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Postby Bycrest » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:36 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Bycrest wrote:That's probably what most of the students would expect so they probably came prepared for that.

Why would they? They'd have no reason to: it was only a dinner party.

You obviously don't know how paranoid some people can be, nine times out of ten when everyone is being forced into one room for something it to turns out to be a trao.
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Postby Unified Free Lands » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:39 pm

Bycrest wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Why would they? They'd have no reason to: it was only a dinner party.

You obviously don't know how paranoid some people can be, nine times out of ten when everyone is being forced into one room for something it to turns out to be a trao.

Especially when someone with foresight already saw that there would be some kind of trap, earlier...
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Postby Doughertania » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:39 pm

Unified Free Lands wrote:
Doughertania wrote:I don't care if they are or not. I'm just thinking of a way to keep the students in the RP if they rebel. They could be punished severely, then given magic/mechanic countermeasures if they try to misbehave again. Like a bio bomb in the brain or something. I honestly think a Suicide Squad thing would be a cool thing to have.

Or maybe brainwashing? Question has some powerful telepaths on his payroll, right?


Maybe they are kept around because the school doesn't want to waste talent? Super villains are hard to come by? Or maybe they're kept as test subjects for experiments and sparring practice? I'm just trying to think of ways so Coraspia can have his war.

The problem is that if there's as many students as there are and only a small number rebel, there's not really a reason why the school would think they're worth keeping around.

IDK I could break the canon, one of the more important things in the canon, and have a non lethal punishment that doesn't involve expulsion, but the players probably wouldn't want to keep playing their characters if they got all the worst tasks. It would quite literally become a living hell.

So we either need to split the student body about fifty fifty, or else all rebels will die.

I guess my problem is that the best Civil War arcs are based off ideological differences that neither are right about. Like how Marvel's Civil War was about personal freedoms vs listening to the elected authorities. But this one seems less devisive. The students have gotten attached to Moore or his wishes, and don't know what he stands for. So there's little reason to join them aside from those who knew him before, or those who want to join the "winning" side.

Maybe if at the dinner Question and Moore got into a debate on something that mattered to the students, such as how much over sight should they have or something, we'd care more about choosing a side. But for now, even those who don't like Question or how his security has been kinda lax wouldn't join Moore cause the risks are too great to the possible rewards.
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Postby Dilange » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:42 pm

Doughertania wrote:
Unified Free Lands wrote:The problem is that if there's as many students as there are and only a small number rebel, there's not really a reason why the school would think they're worth keeping around.

IDK I could break the canon, one of the more important things in the canon, and have a non lethal punishment that doesn't involve expulsion, but the players probably wouldn't want to keep playing their characters if they got all the worst tasks. It would quite literally become a living hell.

So we either need to split the student body about fifty fifty, or else all rebels will die.

I guess my problem is that the best Civil War arcs are based off ideological differences that neither are right about. Like how Marvel's Civil War was about personal freedoms vs listening to the elected authorities. But this one seems less devisive. The students have gotten attached to Moore or his wishes, and don't know what he stands for. So there's little reason to join them aside from those who knew him before, or those who want to join the "winning" side.

Maybe if at the dinner Question and Moore got into a debate on something that mattered to the students, such as how much over sight should they have or something, we'd care more about choosing a side. But for now, even those who don't like Question or how his security has been kinda lax wouldn't join Moore cause the risks are too great to the possible rewards.


I dont even say 50/50. People who join the rebels need to either die or loophole out, which can be done.

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Postby Charlia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:45 pm

Dilange wrote:
Doughertania wrote:So we either need to split the student body about fifty fifty, or else all rebels will die.

I guess my problem is that the best Civil War arcs are based off ideological differences that neither are right about. Like how Marvel's Civil War was about personal freedoms vs listening to the elected authorities. But this one seems less devisive. The students have gotten attached to Moore or his wishes, and don't know what he stands for. So there's little reason to join them aside from those who knew him before, or those who want to join the "winning" side.

Maybe if at the dinner Question and Moore got into a debate on something that mattered to the students, such as how much over sight should they have or something, we'd care more about choosing a side. But for now, even those who don't like Question or how his security has been kinda lax wouldn't join Moore cause the risks are too great to the possible rewards.


I dont even say 50/50. People who join the rebels need to either die or loophole out, which can be done.

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Postby Unified Free Lands » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:51 pm

Look, I really didn't want to do this subplot at first and I rolled with it anyway, and now it might not happen for some of the exact same reasons that I thought it might not work earlier.

Coraspia, you can either go along with the rebellion and have Kadus/Loki join and either die or get expelled, or go along with it and have them not join. If you don't go with one of these options, I'm sending the best trained fighters that Question has, to kill Moore and then gathering everyone to leave the base. If students rebelling was supposed to be a part of the plot, you should have specifically pitched it that way when you told me about it. The decision is final, I said there could be a compromise and you said that you wouldn't do it.
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Postby Arstotzkas » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:53 pm

This subplot seems pretty confusing and one-sided.
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Postby Dilange » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:54 pm

Arstotzkas wrote:This subplot seems pretty confusing and one-sided.

This honestly sounds like L'Averti angle I tried in Academy of Heroes. In that sense.
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Postby Doughertania » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:54 pm

Coraspia, just out of curiosity, what did you think the outcome of Kadus and Loki rebelling would be? You must have known there'd be some consequence. Maybe if we know what you had in mind, we can try to work it in.
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Postby Unified Free Lands » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:54 pm

Arstotzkas wrote:This subplot seems pretty confusing and one-sided.

It wouldn't be one sided if it was the actual Irish base rebelling, not the school...
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:55 pm

Unified Free Lands wrote:Look, I really didn't want to do this subplot at first and I rolled with it anyway, and now it might not happen for some of the exact same reasons that I thought it might not work earlier.

Coraspia, you can either go along with the rebellion and have Kadus/Loki join and either die or get expelled, or go along with it and have them not join. If you don't go with one of these options, I'm sending the best trained fighters that Question has, to kill Moore and then gathering everyone to leave the base. If students rebelling was supposed to be a part of the plot, you should have specifically pitched it that way when you told me about it. The decision is final, I said there could be a compromise and you said that you wouldn't do it.

I'm not doing any of those things. Either find a way to leave them in the school when they rebel, retcon, or I'll have Moore go insane and blow the base and kill everyone.
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Postby Unified Free Lands » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:56 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Unified Free Lands wrote:Look, I really didn't want to do this subplot at first and I rolled with it anyway, and now it might not happen for some of the exact same reasons that I thought it might not work earlier.

Coraspia, you can either go along with the rebellion and have Kadus/Loki join and either die or get expelled, or go along with it and have them not join. If you don't go with one of these options, I'm sending the best trained fighters that Question has, to kill Moore and then gathering everyone to leave the base. If students rebelling was supposed to be a part of the plot, you should have specifically pitched it that way when you told me about it. The decision is final, I said there could be a compromise and you said that you wouldn't do it.

I'm not doing any of those things. Either find a way to leave them in the school when they rebel, retcon, or I'll have Moore go insane and blow the base and kill everyone.

Word of OP is law, I'm retconning that if it happens.
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:56 pm

Doughertania wrote:Coraspia, just out of curiosity, what did you think the outcome of Kadus and Loki rebelling would be? You must have known there'd be some consequence. Maybe if we know what you had in mind, we can try to work it in.

I wanted Moore to force Question to compremise.
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