Recorded History [OOC]

[The Orson Empire]

@Orson, I forgot, your army is way too big. 2% standing army is non, nee, nej, nein, nie, nyet, neen.

Allen I updated my app pls check

en une seconde

Not really,

Yes really
I mean, the craycray Spanish walking straight into the middle of Inca/Aztec doesn't have to happen, so it can and probably will be much harder than IRL to effect the same conquests, but disease is going to do its thing, and wipe out like 90% of the Americas' population. (dunno if it's 90%, rough guess)

Where exactly are you?

I counter your war elephants with war pigs!

Flaming pigs, "burn"

So is there any territory still available in the Tibetan plateau or the steppes?

Yep, both.

yes

Si, where do you want to go?

When you post at midnight, and ask where I am... ... just don' do it

and yes; constotated

EDIT: also, you need to change the map on the OP link to the Map I actually do stuff on, unless you want to keep the RP in the dark... kek

can resend link? my tg box is le ded

I'm going to drop my app but I'll still help document

Noted, thanks. You'll mainly be responsible for stuff like wiki and the weekly reports.

The main population is roughly 700,000 people. If that needs to be changed up let me know.
What do you mean by building codes?
History isn't that far back, probably only a century or so. The tribes had been especially damaged during the Bronze Age Collapse. I'll have to go back and edit some of that history.

The "build using these materials like this or we knock your building down and kill you", I think that may be a tad ahead of its time. I know, for example, the IVC had some sort of primitive urban planning, but I don't think it was quite like that.

Absolutely. The Native empires would've been torn apart by European diseases. European dominance of the globe in 1500 was, in hindsight, a for-drawn conclusion. It had large population centres, large economies, world-spanning empires (the Dutch and Portugese already had African holdings. The Europeans would still come to control North America, and with the technology they had, the conquest of South America would not be suspended for long. Europe is too fertile, too rich in resources and too populated to really be defeated by anything beyond 1500.

Erm, except China and India (subcontinent) both had comparable, if not larger GDPs, and the same for population... and I believe China, at least, had better living standards.

Allen when you get the chance please review my app. 429

Whoops, I missed it, sorry about that. Getting to it ASAP.

Reservation

Poster: Aldelxane
Name: The Haigui League
Territory: https://imgur.com/mJ7P5De
429
(Tentative, unless I think of something better)

Reservio, though no cities or centralised states exist in that area yet, keep in mind...

Made a final alteration to my population - there are 21,000 Hu. That is roughly 1% of the current population of the Highlands, and it seems fair to me. Plus, it gives me more of a reason to explore and expand.

Also, Imperial Idaho, would you like to (eventually) establish trade relations? We're close enough that our primitive boats could reach each other, and my goals don't currently include expansion into Ireland.

(;-; pls no dramarino friends)

Pop is fine, edit into the version of the app linked in the roster thanks.

You may want to wait just in case. Allen may want you to change something in your app first.

Actually, he is officially accepted

Actually, scratch what I said before. How well would it go if the Daxeyono clan managed to trade with the Borizu, gaining powerful tools, leading to their conquest of the Greek peninsula?

Sure, though to be honest, you don't really need it; Greece was pretty advanced anyway before the Late Bronze Age Collapse.

Tag. This RP looks pretty good, and fantastically organised. Just to confirm if i understood the OP right, you can basically make up everything about your nation right, with that 50000 BC POD?

Yeppers. Though I should really change that to 50,000 B.F.B. since that's our dating system.

OH! I just decided on Japanese peoples.

Reservation

Poster: Era the Mind
Name: The Clan of Tengoku Kaisai
Territory: Parts of Japan (The following regions & prefectures will be mine: Yamagata, Fukushima, Tochigi, Ibaraki, Chiba, Saitama, Tokyo, Kanagawa, Miyagi, Iwate, Akita, Aomori, Hokkaido, Gunma, Nigata, Nagano, Yamanashi, Shizuoka, Aichi, Gifu, Fukui, Ishikiwa, Toyama, Shiga, Mie, Nara, Kyoto, Hyogo, Osaka, Wakayama)

429 (This is used to mark this as an official reservation. If this is not present, I can't search "429" and find this reservation)

Err, Japan would not be united at this time. The best you could do is loose tribedoms, IIRC. Might need to do research.

Reservation

Poster: The Peoples East Africa
Name: Kingdom of Dunishka
Territory: http://imgur.com/ELdTFQX

429

'zerved.

You are completely correct. ^_^ You deserve... what do people who are right get as a prize? >_>

power
one helluva drug

Screw it, gonna get the rest of Greece, including Constantinople.

Noted.

Uh, The Orson Empire? I just wanted to say that I'll be scrapping the nation in Sinai, since it wasn't accepted right away and I don't want to put a lot of work into a nation that'd be taken over right from the beginning. That, and I have a different idea that I like. I hope you understand, sorry.

But you are accepted... but feel free to change.

He who be sleeping at 3pm AEST, and has been thus so for a solid 10 hours

Psh, no I wasn't. Only until, like, a few minutes before that...
but I slept at ~6:30 am, so no blamo me

The point is that they were conquered.

Why do you call the USA "they" btw? You're as American as I, and it's your country, just say "we". Dont try to distance yourself from it, it's hardly even necessary unless it was your direct ancestors who did the killing.

And Mexico didn't succeed because there is still, today, a white upper class. And, it's not just the USA, Canada did some pretty terrible stuff to their natives, and Uruguay and Argentina are statistically whiter than both of them, so it's not just the US that rid themselves of natives.

Most people here aren't American, it's just much easier to talk about everything in the 3rd person, and only our personal selves in the 1st. At least, that's what I find.

OMG OMG OMG Allen is online OMG OMG OMG

Certainly- but Borizu took over four hundred years to fall, whereas the Sea People migrations were more on the order of fifty years, and far more universal than the erosion of peripheries the fall of Borizu is implied to be. Literally every major civilization around the Eastern Med kicked the bucket during the Late Bronze Age collapse, whereas the Borizu have just been tottering towards their grave for eight times as long before they finally fell over.

Err, not really. The empire collapsed in roughly the same order of time, then the city itself tucked itself under a blanket and repeatedly whispered *pleasedon'tfindmepleasedon'tkillme* until a passing barbar wondered "what's that whispering?" and stabbed the blanket.

is good map, I add now

What would be an acceptable limit then?

[Reatra]

IRL the New World wasn't really conquered until far later than we mostly think. The last Inka rebel leader died in the mid 1700s. The Mexicans revolted from Spain not to make their own country of whites, but to go back to the days of native rule.

I mean, except for America.

But look at how hard they worked to genocide the natives?

The point is that they were conquered.

Why do you call the USA "they" btw? You're as American as I, and it's your country, just say "we". Dont try to distance yourself from it, it's hardly even necessary unless it was your direct ancestors who did the killing.

And Mexico didn't succeed because there is still, today, a white upper class. And, it's not just the USA, Canada did some pretty terrible stuff to their natives, and Uruguay and Argentina are statistically whiter than both of them, so it's not just the US that rid themselves of natives.

Were you alive in that era?

Was I alive in that era?

That country was a completely different country.

And, since I wasn't ONLY talking to you, but to everyone, as Allen said, not everyone is American.

[Alleniana]

I will consider, which I need to do, because I don't actually have a clue what vice-director and manager are actually going to do

To question- were there Borizu era civs in Greece/Nubia/Tunisia/Anatolia?

Greece, yes, like pre-Greek Dark Ages sort of thing. Nubia and most of Anatolia were Borizu, and the non-Borizu parts of Anatolia were uncivilised or city-states. Tunisia is not quite citied-up though.

@Orson, I forgot, your army is way too big. 2% standing army is non, nee, nej, nein, nie, nyet, neen.

en une seconde

Yes really
I mean, the craycray Spanish walking straight into the middle of Inca/Aztec doesn't have to happen, so it can and probably will be much harder than IRL to effect the same conquests, but disease is going to do its thing, and wipe out like 90% of the Americas' population. (dunno if it's 90%, rough guess)

Flaming pigs, "burn"

Yep, both.

Si, where do you want to go?

can resend link? my tg box is le ded

Noted, thanks. You'll mainly be responsible for stuff like wiki and the weekly reports.

The "build using these materials like this or we knock your building down and kill you", I think that may be a tad ahead of its time. I know, for example, the IVC had some sort of primitive urban planning, but I don't think it was quite like that.

Erm, except China and India (subcontinent) both had comparable, if not larger GDPs, and the same for population... and I believe China, at least, had better living standards.

Whoops, I missed it, sorry about that. Getting to it ASAP.

Reservio, though no cities or centralised states exist in that area yet, keep in mind...

Pop is fine, edit into the version of the app linked in the roster thanks.

Actually, he is officially accepted

Sure, though to be honest, you don't really need it; Greece was pretty advanced anyway before the Late Bronze Age Collapse.

Yeppers. Though I should really change that to 50,000 B.F.B. since that's our dating system.


Err, Japan would not be united at this time. The best you could do is loose tribedoms, IIRC. Might need to do research.

'zerved.

power
one helluva drug
Noted.

But you are accepted... but feel free to change.

Psh, no I wasn't. Only until, like, a few minutes before that...
but I slept at ~6:30 am, so no blamo me

Most people here aren't American, it's just much easier to talk about everything in the 3rd person, and only our personal selves in the 1st. At least, that's what I find.



Err, not really. The empire collapsed in roughly the same order of time, then the city itself tucked itself under a blanket and repeatedly whispered *pleasedon'tfindmepleasedon'tkillme* until a passing barbar wondered "what's that whispering?" and stabbed the blanket.

is good map, I add now

What would be an acceptable limit then?

Depends; for an actual professional army, with training, standard equipment, pay, etc. much less than 1%. For simply some kind of rough standing force, including town guard kind of thing, 1% or less. For something "semi-standing", reservey sort of thing or military encampments where people live, revolving, I guess a tad more.

[The Orson Empire]

To question- were there Borizu era civs in Greece/Nubia/Tunisia/Anatolia?

Greece, yes, like pre-Greek Dark Ages sort of thing. Nubia and most of Anatolia were Borizu, and the non-Borizu parts of Anatolia were uncivilised or city-states. Tunisia is not quite citied-up though.

What would be an acceptable limit then?

Depends; for an actual professional army, with training, standard equipment, pay, etc. much less than 1%. For simply some kind of rough standing force, including town guard kind of thing, 1% or less. For something "semi-standing", reservey sort of thing or military encampments where people live, revolving, I guess a tad more.

How about this: 5,000 professional, elite troops and 22,000 standard levy troops.

[Reatra]

my beautiful wiki page

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ah, I didn't realize quite how much the Borizu owned- I'm assuming most of those regions have had successor civilizations for about three hundred years though now, yes?

[Lothair Udo]

This wiki, to register, is there a activation email? Because, I kinda hate those.

[Alleniana]

Greece, yes, like pre-Greek Dark Ages sort of thing. Nubia and most of Anatolia were Borizu, and the non-Borizu parts of Anatolia were uncivilised or city-states. Tunisia is not quite citied-up though.

Depends; for an actual professional army, with training, standard equipment, pay, etc. much less than 1%. For simply some kind of rough standing force, including town guard kind of thing, 1% or less. For something "semi-standing", reservey sort of thing or military encampments where people live, revolving, I guess a tad more.

How about this: 5,000 professional, elite troops and 22,000 standard levy troops.

Sure, I guess that's ok.

This wiki, to register, is there a activation email? Because, I kinda hate those.

You don't have to register to edit; I don't know if you need an email to have a wikia account, though. If you do, nothing to do with me, that's wikia

Ah, I didn't realize quite how much the Borizu owned- I'm assuming most of those regions have had successor civilizations for about three hundred years though now, yes?

Yep; some regions were flung right back to hunting-gathering by the collapse, but they were a minority, and most have now begun to recover to pre-collapse levels.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ew Reatra, that's such an empty page.

[Togeria]

Still wanting to know if I got accepted.

[Alleniana]

Still wanting to know if I got accepted.

I am checking your app as we speak. Type. Y'know.

[Togeria]

Thanks.

[The Orson Empire]

How about this: 5,000 professional, elite troops and 22,000 standard levy troops.

Sure, I guess that's ok.

This wiki, to register, is there a activation email? Because, I kinda hate those.

You don't have to register to edit; I don't know if you need an email to have a wikia account, though. If you do, nothing to do with me, that's wikia

Ah, I didn't realize quite how much the Borizu owned- I'm assuming most of those regions have had successor civilizations for about three hundred years though now, yes?

Yep; some regions were flung right back to hunting-gathering by the collapse, but they were a minority, and most have now begun to recover to pre-collapse levels.

Great.

And wow, entire regions went straight back to hunting and gathering? That was a very rough collapse.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Just to be clear - there are no IRL cultures here.

Also, contact doesn't imply trade. One of your first posts could be about the acquisition of weapons and armor. Once you have the weapons, there's nothing stopping you from making more and innovating on the design. (Except for Japan's total lack of good-quality ores, but that's a different story.)

And ceramic weapons weren't really a thing - mostly because stone/bone/wood/metal does a better job when you have limited technology and resources. Ceramics are for pots and plates.

Actually, the Chinese and Koreans were instrumental to the development of the Japanese cultures for thousands and thousands of years. They didn't just trade, the Japanese ended up borrowing an entire system of government and keeping time from the Chinese, while they learned wet-rice whatever from the Koreans. And good point.

Since no IRL cultures exist here, I'll just acquire the weapons and armor. That means I can make a katana :3 Yaaaay... I shall haz Shogunate and samurai/saburai sooner than eve-okay, no, no that's bad. Bad Era. BAD! No Shogunate for you. :c Uhm... anyways, I'm being silly, so ignore everything above this and look below.

I'll acquire the weapons and armor, and then I... yes, katana. I want a katana.

There wasn't much trade at this point and bronzeworking hasn't reached South Korea yet. At this point Japan probably hasn't even made the transition to an agricultural society yet. You can fast forward from hunter gatherers to organized, iron age civ. You are gonna have to build it.

[Alleniana]

Sure, I guess that's ok.

You don't have to register to edit; I don't know if you need an email to have a wikia account, though. If you do, nothing to do with me, that's wikia

Yep; some regions were flung right back to hunting-gathering by the collapse, but they were a minority, and most have now begun to recover to pre-collapse levels.

Great.

And wow, entire regions went straight back to hunting and gathering? That was a very rough collapse.

Mostly fringes. All of them are back on track now, and more besides.

Application

Poster: Togeria
Name:Kingdom of Hayme( pronounced: Aye-May).

I feel a bit too advanced in general; cities, kingdoms, that sort of stuff. I do believe the Philippines are neolithic at this point.

snip

Too advanced; navy too large, population too I think, economy is too good, and saying that no homosexuals exist is pretty suspect... Also more detail, where you've put one-word or close-to answers.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well, I think my wiki is up to date enough to be ready for the IC. So, Allen, trade leaving station? I'd hate to burn off this anticipation on another four days of faffing like NI2.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Allen, can we have ruling on Japan? Is it hunter-gather like IRL or iron age shogunate?

[Narintia]

Great.

And wow, entire regions went straight back to hunting and gathering? That was a very rough collapse.

Mostly fringes. All of them are back on track now, and more besides.

I feel a bit too advanced in general; cities, kingdoms, that sort of stuff. I do believe the Philippines are neolithic at this point.

Portuguese, Azorean, African, etc. ethnicities don't exist, see Regulation 1 in the opening posts. Also, isn't this a bit small to RP as, on this kind of scale?

was i accepted?

[Togeria]

Great.

And wow, entire regions went straight back to hunting and gathering? That was a very rough collapse.

Mostly fringes. All of them are back on track now, and more besides.

I feel a bit too advanced in general; cities, kingdoms, that sort of stuff. I do believe the Philippines are neolithic at this point.

Portuguese, Azorean, African, etc. ethnicities don't exist, see Regulation 1 in the opening posts. Also, isn't this a bit small to RP as, on this kind of scale?

When did hell did I ever write that?

[Terminus Alpha]

Mostly fringes. All of them are back on track now, and more besides.

Portuguese, Azorean, African, etc. ethnicities don't exist, see Regulation 1 in the opening posts. Also, isn't this a bit small to RP as, on this kind of scale?

When did hell did I ever write that?

Quotes prolly messed up.

[Alleniana]

Allen, can we have ruling on Japan? Is it hunter-gather like IRL or iron age shogunate?

Hunter-gatherer.

Mostly fringes. All of them are back on track now, and more besides.

Portuguese, Azorean, African, etc. ethnicities don't exist, see Regulation 1 in the opening posts. Also, isn't this a bit small to RP as, on this kind of scale?

When did hell did I ever write that?

Whoops, yeah, quotes messed up. My feedback to you is "I feel a bit too advanced in general; cities, kingdoms, that sort of stuff. I do believe the Philippines are neolithic at this point.", ignore stuff about Portuguese, etc.

[Togeria]

Allen, can we have ruling on Japan? Is it hunter-gather like IRL or iron age shogunate?

Hunter-gatherer.

When did hell did I ever write that?

Whoops, yeah, quotes messed up. My feedback to you is "I feel a bit too advanced in general; cities, kingdoms, that sort of stuff. I do believe the Philippines are neolithic at this point.", ignore stuff about Portuguese, etc.

Down grade a bit and we're good?

[Lothair Udo]

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[Alleniana]

Hunter-gatherer.

Whoops, yeah, quotes messed up. My feedback to you is "I feel a bit too advanced in general; cities, kingdoms, that sort of stuff. I do believe the Philippines are neolithic at this point.", ignore stuff about Portuguese, etc.

Down grade a bit and we're good?

Yeah, a fair bit. See RL Philippines at this time.

Application

Poster: South Mauristan

Name: The Piñonero Islands, Piñonero, Piñonerean, Piñoneri

Portuguese, Azorean, African, etc. ethnicities don't exist, see Regulation 1 in the opening posts. Also, isn't this a bit small to RP as, on this kind of scale?

Application

Poster: Aden Protectorate, Aden for short

Name: Yok'hakkou ji Suma Tso (literally "Nation-Land of Tso")

Not sure about population, nor relatively advanced concepts for warfare/colonisation. But accepted.

[Alleniana]

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You saw your feedback further up or nay?