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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:03 pm

Togeria wrote:
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This is an excellent application, for maybe five hundred years from now- it seems the Filipinos didn't really use metal technology until about 500 BCE, and didn't form anything larger than nomadic bands until about that period. Having a vaguely centralized government and cities five hundred years before villages formed comes across as iffy.

I think of it more like the greek city-states period. Hayme is the lead tribal center just because their able to assemble a force when needed. The spearheads aren't metal either their made from stone as for the villages their really just fortified tribal areas. A more advance state like China or Korea would outlcass us by leaps and bounds.


Sure, sure, but the Greek city-states certainly worked with agriculture; that's the reason they formed cities. The Filipinos won't do that for five centuries, six even. Forming a city before sedentary food production is all but impossible, unless you're only talking a holy site where hunter-gatherers congregate during "x season".
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Postby Togeria » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:04 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Togeria wrote:I think of it more like the greek city-states period. Hayme is the lead tribal center just because their able to assemble a force when needed. The spearheads aren't metal either their made from stone as for the villages their really just fortified tribal areas. A more advance state like China or Korea would outlcass us by leaps and bounds.


Sure, sure, but the Greek city-states certainly worked with agriculture; that's the reason they formed cities. The Filipinos won't do that for five centuries, six even. Forming a city before sedentary food production is all but impossible, unless you're only talking a holy site where hunter-gatherers congregate during "x season".

Has to be that our only other source is fishing.
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DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Postby Reatra » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:07 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Yes, yay!

Because without the experience and technology gained from conquering the New World Europe would never become the most powerful continent!

I think they could still conquer the Americas. The lack of Native immunity to diseases couldn't be helped.



IRL the New World wasn't really conquered until far later than we mostly think. The last Inka rebel leader died in the mid 1700s. The Mexicans revolted from Spain not to make their own country of whites, but to go back to the days of native rule.

I mean, except for America.

But look at how hard they worked to genocide the natives?
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Postby Togeria » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:08 pm

Conwy-shire wrote:Lothair, sorry to be a pain, but Xelyrion has already been accepted by Allen - and he occupies most of Modern Greece (including the Peloponnese)

Screw it; here's the map of Accepted Roster nations that Allen has failed to put on the OP for a few days now:

M.A.P.

Thank you for this it help tremendously now that I can see most of the borders.
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DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Postby The Assorted Saharan Outposts » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:26 pm

Uh, The Orson Empire? I just wanted to say that I'll be scrapping the nation in Sinai, since it wasn't accepted right away and I don't want to put a lot of work into a nation that'd be taken over right from the beginning. That, and I have a different idea that I like. I hope you understand, sorry.
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:36 pm

The Assorted Saharan Outposts wrote:Uh, The Orson Empire? I just wanted to say that I'll be scrapping the nation in Sinai, since it wasn't accepted right away and I don't want to put a lot of work into a nation that'd be taken over right from the beginning. That, and I have a different idea that I like. I hope you understand, sorry.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:38 pm

The Assorted Saharan Outposts wrote:Uh, The Orson Empire? I just wanted to say that I'll be scrapping the nation in Sinai, since it wasn't accepted right away and I don't want to put a lot of work into a nation that'd be taken over right from the beginning. That, and I have a different idea that I like. I hope you understand, sorry.

Alright, thank's for telling me.

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Postby Conwy-Shire » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:39 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:(become normandy)

(become Carthage) We have cookies
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Postby The Assorted Saharan Outposts » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:42 pm

Conwy-shire wrote:
Terminus Alpha wrote:(become normandy)

(become Carthage) We have cookies

I was thinking more along the lines of a group of loosely united tribes of the same culture, residing in the Horn of Africa
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:45 pm

The Assorted Saharan Outposts wrote:
Conwy-shire wrote:(become Carthage) We have cookies

I was thinking more along the lines of a group of loosely united tribes of the same culture, residing in the Horn of Africa

Something like the Swahili City-States? sounds cool.
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Postby Togeria » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:47 pm

Europe seems like it's gonna be fun.
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DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:54 pm

The Assorted Saharan Outposts wrote:
Conwy-shire wrote:(become Carthage) We have cookies

I was thinking more along the lines of a group of loosely united tribes of the same culture, residing in the Horn of Africa

We could trade if you wish.

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Lothair Udo
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Postby Lothair Udo » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:54 pm

Who be the OP or Co-OP here?

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:56 pm

Lothair Udo wrote:Who be the OP or Co-OP here?

Read the opening post.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:56 pm

Lothair Udo wrote:Who be the OP or Co-OP here?


Allen, he who be sleeping.
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Postby Conwy-Shire » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:57 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Lothair Udo wrote:Who be the OP or Co-OP here?


Allen, he who be sleeping.

He who be sleeping at 3pm AEST, and has been thus so for a solid 10 hours
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Postby The Assorted Saharan Outposts » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:00 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Assorted Saharan Outposts wrote:I was thinking more along the lines of a group of loosely united tribes of the same culture, residing in the Horn of Africa

We could trade if you wish.

Yes, we could trade, if you ever need more food, then they could probably give you some. They have enough with at least four kind of independent tribes collecting food, I'm sure they can spare some
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:23 pm

The Assorted Saharan Outposts wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:We could trade if you wish.

Yes, we could trade, if you ever need more food, then they could probably give you some. They have enough with at least four kind of independent tribes collecting food, I'm sure they can spare some

Sounds great.

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Postby Togeria » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:23 pm

If anyone's in Far East Asia do they want to visit the Hayme if I get accepted.
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DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:25 pm

Togeria wrote:If anyone's in Far East Asia do they want to visit the Hayme if I get accepted.


Were there ships capable of reaching the northern Philippines in this era?
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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:30 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Togeria wrote:If anyone's in Far East Asia do they want to visit the Hayme if I get accepted.


Were there ships capable of reaching the northern Philippines in this era?


Maybe some of the :not Polynesian: designs, they were getting pretty spread out.
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Postby Togeria » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:30 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Togeria wrote:If anyone's in Far East Asia do they want to visit the Hayme if I get accepted.


Were there ships capable of reaching the northern Philippines in this era?

At most I would say from Indochina or Indonesia.
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DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:31 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Togeria wrote:If anyone's in Far East Asia do they want to visit the Hayme if I get accepted.


Were there ships capable of reaching the northern Philippines in this era?


Yeah, just not as a usual thing.

Enough people reached Australia to have a viable population, and that was 49,000 years ago.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Rygondria » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:32 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Assorted Saharan Outposts wrote:Yes, we could trade, if you ever need more food, then they could probably give you some. They have enough with at least four kind of independent tribes collecting food, I'm sure they can spare some

Sounds great.

Would you be interested in Cyprus Bronze trade if i am accepted ?

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:34 pm

Reatra wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Were there ships capable of reaching the northern Philippines in this era?


Yeah, just not as a usual thing.

Enough people reached Australia to have a viable population, and that was 49,000 years ago.


Oh no, I get that- but I'm presuming the crossing is still dangerous enough that regular contact isn't a thing. There's a difference between the technology to occasionally carry lucky migrants to new lands, and the technology to maintain ties between islands. Only one in a hundred ships has to make it for migrations to work out, but merchants and traders don't take such risks.
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