Recorded History [OOC]

[Finland SSR]

Sure it does; in many ways the IR was a response to plentiful raw resources (from colonies) that needed to be processed by a limited population into manufactured goods to be sold (back to the colonies). Take the UK for instance- their textile mills, the foundation of Britain's IR, would never gave subsided on British resources alone, or have been nearly as profitable without the highly favorable trade terms for cotton from America/Egypt/India.

I'm sure Europe will be fragmented, but I'm betting on five powers, not the twenty five of the day. Ditto India, China, the Med, etc.

Actually, as far as Columbus goes, I'm doubtful. His voyage, and folks rounding the Horn of Africa, were responses to the end of easy access to trade routes eastward that came with the conquests of Islam. Without such an event, the trade routes will remain open, and sending a ship all the way around a continent will never be nearly as profitable as a caravan walking across Uzbekistan.

Yes; can't colonies founded later rather than sooner also provide those raw resources, if later rather than sooner?

Europe of the day was fragmented, indeed, but in practise, only the Great Powers of the day mattered; and, even then, I would say that I expect a lot more than 5 powers, given there's 6 accepted and more on the way as reserved, and I do believe at least some of those who have currently applied will choose to go down to several-states-one-nation or NPC cloud road.

Again, Columbus was a nutjob. He was wrong about being able to reach Asia easily through the west, or he pretended he didn't know better (perhaps to make funding him more realistic; "voyage to India" sounds better than "voyage that will hopefully discover useful stuff"). Either way, especially considering grants made to him for revenue from newly discovered lands (does that sound like trade or colonisation?), his journey was chance, IMO. As soon as the ship technology becomes available, which would be much earlier I think, then a monarch who doesn't trust his court enough can provide funding for an off-the-side journey to whatever is westwards. In any case, the Vikings' descendants might well be making a return to Greenland; without a Columbus, IMO, we would have just seen Scandinavian-led colonisation from the north, the gradual establishment of a mid-Atlantic route, and a general top-down colonisation of the Americas. Which, incidentally, might lead to the Aztecs and Incas having more time to prepare, and thus surviving, if not indefinitely at least for longer than IRL.

Hey, everybody has to be a newbie at some point

See, newbie isn't a temporal state, it's a mindset; if you really want, it's possible to stay one forever

Going through apps now. IC est veniens.

Fun fact: I killed Columbus once.

I was a worldmod in /r/empirepowers, and it was around 1480. Genoa had gotten a permission from the Pope to establish hegemony in the heathenous India and SE Asia, and after taking over Goa, they decided to demand stuff from the Kingdom of Kotte (Ceylon). So they send a huge carrack to Colombo and place the young Columbus as a crew member there (which I'm not aware of). I resolve it with a roll, the ship hits reefs and the entire crew perishes.

I'm later told that I just killed Columbus, and I'm just like "Cabot master race".

[Alleniana]

Yes; can't colonies founded later rather than sooner also provide those raw resources, if later rather than sooner?

Europe of the day was fragmented, indeed, but in practise, only the Great Powers of the day mattered; and, even then, I would say that I expect a lot more than 5 powers, given there's 6 accepted and more on the way as reserved, and I do believe at least some of those who have currently applied will choose to go down to several-states-one-nation or NPC cloud road.

Again, Columbus was a nutjob. He was wrong about being able to reach Asia easily through the west, or he pretended he didn't know better (perhaps to make funding him more realistic; "voyage to India" sounds better than "voyage that will hopefully discover useful stuff"). Either way, especially considering grants made to him for revenue from newly discovered lands (does that sound like trade or colonisation?), his journey was chance, IMO. As soon as the ship technology becomes available, which would be much earlier I think, then a monarch who doesn't trust his court enough can provide funding for an off-the-side journey to whatever is westwards. In any case, the Vikings' descendants might well be making a return to Greenland; without a Columbus, IMO, we would have just seen Scandinavian-led colonisation from the north, the gradual establishment of a mid-Atlantic route, and a general top-down colonisation of the Americas. Which, incidentally, might lead to the Aztecs and Incas having more time to prepare, and thus surviving, if not indefinitely at least for longer than IRL.

See, newbie isn't a temporal state, it's a mindset; if you really want, it's possible to stay one forever

Going through apps now. IC est veniens.

Fun fact: I killed Columbus once.

I was a worldmod in /r/empirepowers, and it was around 1480. Genoa had gotten a permission from the Pope to establish hegemony in the heathenous India and SE Asia, and after taking over Goa, they decided to demand stuff from the Kingdom of Kotte (Ceylon). So they send a huge carrack to Colombo and place the young Columbus as a crew member there (which I'm not aware of). I resolve it with a roll, the ship hits reefs and the entire crew perishes.

I'm later told that I just killed Columbus, and I'm just like "Cabot master race".

Heh, heh. Cabotia.

Anyway, poll is out of deadlock, but it's still very close to even... bother.

[Narintia]

I was the tiebreaker, no IE for you, Chine!

[G-Tech Corporation]

IC?

Amarisar has no need of IR.

We'll just conquer Yurop before they get there.

[Alleniana]

IC?

Amarisar has no need of IR.

We'll just conquer Yurop before they get there.

>disunited city-states
>conquer
everyone knows that yuropoors are the best at killing everyone

BTW G-Tech, is "majpolis" and "polis" proper nouns or common nouns? They seem to be used as common nouns, but they're capitalised. Also, the OOC category thing isn't preferable; do you need to be able to reference them all from one place, or is it enough to use comments to dissuade people from willy-nilly editing?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

IC?

Amarisar has no need of IR.

We'll just conquer Yurop before they get there.

>disunited city-states
>conquer
everyone knows that yuropoors are the best at killing everyone

Besides, if they want to get to Europe, they'll have to get through Sycdania first! Sycdania Stronk!

[Finland SSR]

>disunited city-states
>conquer
everyone knows that yuropoors are the best at killing everyone

Besides, if they want to get to Europe, they'll have to get through Sycdania first! Sycdania Stronk!

Hey. We're in the same culture group.

I guess I can't fuck you up now, because that'd be incest

[Alleniana]

Besides, if they want to get to Europe, they'll have to get through Sycdania first! Sycdania Stronk!

Hey. We're in the same culture group.

I guess I can't fuck you up now, because that'd be incest

what's wrong with that :^)

edit: whoop, poll tie again. *slight sigh*

[Finland SSR]

Hey. We're in the same culture group.

I guess I can't fuck you up now, because that'd be incest

what's wrong with that :^)

nobody has made zoroastrianism yet

[G-Tech Corporation]

IC?

Amarisar has no need of IR.

We'll just conquer Yurop before they get there.

>disunited city-states
>conquer
everyone knows that yuropoors are the best at killing everyone

BTW G-Tech, is "majpolis" and "polis" proper nouns or common nouns? They seem to be used as common nouns, but they're capitalised. Also, the OOC category thing isn't preferable; do you need to be able to reference them all from one place, or is it enough to use comments to dissuade people from willy-nilly editing?

Mm, both really. If we're talking about, say, the Polis of Gaeta, polis would be capitalized. It is a similar situation as "the states that compose the United States of America".

But you shall see, you shall see. Trust me, my boy, every aspect of the Thousand Cities is precisely engineered. You know not what you have unleashed upon this new Earth.

As for categories, don't worry about those. I think I can find my work fairly easily at this point, now that I'm used to wikia.

[Finland SSR]

>disunited city-states
>conquer
everyone knows that yuropoors are the best at killing everyone

BTW G-Tech, is "majpolis" and "polis" proper nouns or common nouns? They seem to be used as common nouns, but they're capitalised. Also, the OOC category thing isn't preferable; do you need to be able to reference them all from one place, or is it enough to use comments to dissuade people from willy-nilly editing?

Mm, both really. If we're talking about, say, the Polis of Gaeta, polis would be capitalized. It is a similar situation as "the states that compose the United States of America".

But you shall see, you shall see. Trust me, my boy, every aspect of the Thousand Cities is precisely engineered. You know not what you have unleashed upon this new Earth.

As for categories, don't worry about those. I think I can find my work fairly easily at this point, now that I'm used to wikia.

*cracks knuckles*

It's been a long time since I had to use the nerf bat.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Mm, both really. If we're talking about, say, the Polis of Gaeta, polis would be capitalized. It is a similar situation as "the states that compose the United States of America".

But you shall see, you shall see. Trust me, my boy, every aspect of the Thousand Cities is precisely engineered. You know not what you have unleashed upon this new Earth.

As for categories, don't worry about those. I think I can find my work fairly easily at this point, now that I'm used to wikia.

*cracks knuckles*

It's been a long time since I had to use the nerf bat.

Go back to barbaring about your wilds, woad-painted naked savages.

[Alleniana]

Application

Poster: The Grim Reaper
Name: Nagadeva (the nation as a whole), Upaladbipa (the island of modern Sri Lanka), Kholamalya (the modern Maldives); Devatma (Demonym)

Ok, I've shaved it down to a city-state now. EDIT: And added an economy section >_>

Not sure stuff is worth calling a city... also, overtoleration still seems a bit advanced. But accepted.

Application

Poster: Altito Asmoro
Name: The Tribal Chiefdom of Toda, Todaians, Todans

Done.

Religion, currency and centralisation are too good; religion shouldn't be established nor formal. Government should not be a single strong one, ruling from a place, let alone one you'd call a city. No currency yet; stick to barter or an abstract commodity. That's all.

>disunited city-states
>conquer
everyone knows that yuropoors are the best at killing everyone

BTW G-Tech, is "majpolis" and "polis" proper nouns or common nouns? They seem to be used as common nouns, but they're capitalised. Also, the OOC category thing isn't preferable; do you need to be able to reference them all from one place, or is it enough to use comments to dissuade people from willy-nilly editing?

Mm, both really. If we're talking about, say, the Polis of Gaeta, polis would be capitalized. It is a similar situation as "the states that compose the United States of America".

But you shall see, you shall see. Trust me, my boy, every aspect of the Thousand Cities is precisely engineered. You know not what you have unleashed upon this new Earth.

As for categories, don't worry about those. I think I can find my work fairly easily at this point, now that I'm used to wikia.

Ah, so something like "Republic of Chile" but "Chile is a republic". Only capitalised when titular. Got it.

I somehow doubt you'll be able to avoid overpopulation, given that it will hit everybody hard who isn't a five-horseman riddled-shithole for the entirety of the RP

[Rygondria]

Application

Poster: Rygondria
Name: The Kingdom of Moedia,Modedians,,The Modinites to the people of the middle east and turkey,Meodians to the European area,They call themselves the chálkino ándres,or the bronze men
Symbols:
Flag: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/s/sy%7Darama.gif
Symbol of power war and conquest: http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?. ... d=41653052
Symbol of Peace: http://media.wnyc.org/media/shared/crow ... 50_q85.jpg
Territory: Cyprus

Government Structure: Moedia is ruled by a monarch but since he can not govern the whole island without being considered a tyrant by his subjects the land is divided by the Drogoski system,also known as the clan system. Each clan holds a section of the island along with the resources and people in their section of land, The clans usually answer to the king when it comes to issues of national importance but local issues are dealt with by the head clansmen,who usually traces his lineage back to one of the old Drogoski horse lords who rode with the Horse king during the period of the Old Drogoski kingdom. The area of the island the king rules is governed by him directly but it is a small area only including the northern tip of the island and the capital city itself.
Ideology/Policy: Moedia has a strong aristocratic policy with a mercantilism and expansionism mixed in.
Leaders: The leader is king Hykos "the bull" Rastati is the current ruler,
Foreign Relations: Moedias relations with the foreign world is ranges from neutral all the way to hostile depending on the nation. Most of the time they seek trade relations with nations in the eastern Mediterranean,They have been known to raid undefended costal cities but this practice is on the decline especially with the thriving copper and bronze trade they are developing. But with that they are also opportunists which they proved when they sized Cyprus from the past inhabitants over 500 years ago when they where fighting among themselves in a civil war.Seeing as how the kingdoms population is growing quickly and the islands in the Mediterranean,especially rhodes seem to be tempting targets,even areas in the middle east and the rest of the Mediterranean may be fair game to them depending they are not owned by a nation with a superior army. Foreign alliances can happen but they are extremely rare an are usually achieved through diplomatic marriage.
Capital: The capital and largest city is Mesinion

Demographics: About 200,000 thousand people live in Moedia most of which are centered in the fertile north. Most of the population would live in farms while two percent of the population live in larger towns and cities. There are more more men that women in Moedia which can cause moedian men to seek brides from outside the kingdom,which may or may not involve bride stealing or buying or taking slave,the average age is between 21-42.
Ethnicity: The average Moedian is tall with black hair and tan skin. They decend from two groups,The Drogoski of what is the real world equivalent of Lebanon and arabia,and the Pelinos of real world Northern Greece and Albania. Both these groups invaded cyprus over 500 years ago in which the native population of cyprus was either displaced,killed,or enslaved. The two groups over the course of 500 years intermarried and produced the current Moedians we know today,even though there are a few pure blooded Drogoski and Pelinos left in Moedia but they are a minority and slowly dying out.There is a legend that the gods created the drogoskis out of bronze hence the name Men of bronze,this legend was probably made up to explain their tannish skin but it is most likely that the desert environment they developed in before there invasion of cyprus is the main reason for such. A pure blooded pelino on the other hand is pale with light colored hair and general smaller than there Drogoski brethen.
Language: The Moedian language is taken mostly from Drogoski linguistic traditions mixed in with native and Pelino words. They have a form of written language is carried over from the Pelinos who kept records of the accomplishments of their warrior kings before there invasion of Cyprus. The alphabet contains 30 words and is only used by the scribes and the wealthy,unless a lowly peasant is educated by a merciful scribe at a temple or something like that.
Religion: The Religion of Moedia is completely Pelino in orgin,The main reason of which is because the Drogoski religion was nothing more that a disorganized mess of shamans and spirits but as soon as the Pelinos introduced their religon the old Drogoski ways where forgotten within one hundred years a the Pelino Parthenon was adopted. The priests are the highest authorities on the religion,the priests aare divided according to which god they serve and the rituals vary depending on the god.
The list of gods and their domains
Qozione, God Of Life and king of the gods,
Typmir, God Of Battle and of war
Ephine, Goddess Of Love and fertility
Viva, Goddess Of The Underworld and of death
Ityx, God Of Blacksmiths
Bophine, Goddess Of The Sky
Eeyr, God Of the Sea
Dyna, Goddess Of Trade and Commerce
and a variety of other i can not list
Military Organization: The kingdoms military is based of levies from the citizenry,Traditionally it is the king that leads an army in the time of war with the smaller forcres being led by generals and officers.The militray itself is divided into army and navy with the king also commanding naval operations but not to the extent as his command to the army,he usually regulates naval control to the captains of the ships themselves which then answer to a high captain whoa answers to the king.
Army: The army is based on levies,They are typically are equipped with bronze swords or spears along with wooden shields,or if the solider in question is wealthy or is well connected a bronze shield.Unlike weapons armor is purchased by the solider themselves,a typical solider would usually be wearing cloth or leather armor and if he is lucky a few studs of bronze included with the leather. If the solider is of better means he may have a bronze breastplate or helmet,a full set of bronze armor can only be afforded by the nobility or the wealthy,Archers are usually placed in the back of the army and use a volley technique to rain down arrows on their enimies,in the case where archers are attack by an enemy they carry bronze knives a s protection. Calvalry is usually the wealthy who can afford horses,there are two type of calvary in the army,the traditional lancers who charge their enemies with bronze spears and the drogoski horse archers who as their name implies are horse archers who use hit and run tactics against enimies but they are more than capable of charging their enemies. there are about 10,000 soldiers at the moment.
Navy: Unlike the army the navy is almost made out of recruits who man the ships for a term of twenty years,due to their need on the uninterrupted flow of their trade the navy is on constant patrol against pirates and threats to their trade,There are four type of people on a typical Moedian galley,the rowers who as implied row to galley,they usually below deck and are not equipped with armor but they have bronze knives to fight of borders,the second are the sailors who are above deck and are tasked with proper maintaining the ship and defending it from attack,the third group are marines which are basically foot soliders tasked with the actual boarding along with backup from the sailors the marines are either equipped with swords,spears or bows and arrows the swordsmen and spear men equipped with bronze armor while the archers receive leather. The fourth and the most important person on a galley is the captain who in charge of making tactical decisions,making sure it actually gets to its position in peace,and care of his crew,the captain in turn answers to the high captain who gives out orders for naval campaign based on orders from the king
Air Force: None
Space Fleet: None

Economy: The economy is doing quite well for itself,especially with the bronze trade which has been fueling the economy along with the other minerals that are being mined in the island,but if bronze ever falls out of fashion or their exports are blocked off the moedian economy would be damaged. Agriculture like most countries in this region also agriculture plays an important part in the economy with most of the food being used for feeding the population but a few cash crops,most grapes and olive are exported for trade. Then there is trade, As i said the Aforementioned bronze trade is the lifeline of the kingdom. Along with the bronze trade the moedians also export copper,tin,iron even though they themselves hardly use it seeing as they are perfectly satisfied with bronze at the moment,grapes and olives. They import luxuries,food,especially grain and barley.
Infrastructure: Moedias infrastructure is good but not as developed as it could be,mainly due to the kings ignoring building projects both in the past and the present. Sure,there has been some ambitious building programs but none of them have reached a grand scale. Dirt roads connect villages and towns to the main city. The buildings are usually made of stone or wood and range from one story all the way to four depending on the wealth of the individual.
Trade: Trade is a important to moedia especially its bronze trade which is one of its main stays of it s economy. Trade is monitored by ministers who make sure that exports are of a cetain standard before they are shipped off to foreign nations,imports also go through the same process
Currency: There is not currency for day to day excahnges in moedia,the common people trade by using the barter system,but the merchants dealing in foreign lands use pieces of raw gold as exchanges for goods or payment for troops

History: The History of Moedia begin with two groups of people,The Drogoskis,Who where a nomadic people who ruled a kingdom that stretched from Lebanon and Nothern Arabia and the Pelinos,a group of Tribals that originated from Northern Greece and Albania who lived in scattered villages,one would assume that these people would not have contact with each other but history always has a way of making the unlikely occur. About 700 years ago the Drogoskis kingdom was defeated by a Invasion from a group of nomads from Persia while the pelinos where forced to migrate from there homelands after their lands where affected by natural disasters and invasions from the Danube river men. These people where forced to wander for two hundred hears as nomadic barbarians with no land to call their own. But about five hundred ten years ago the Pelinos acquired galleys from one of the many city states in asia minor and set sail in hopes of arriving in The Middle east,but they arrived in Cyprus instead which was in a civil war by the time of their arrival,seeing opportunity the Pelinos attacked the Divided Cypriots in a war for conquest and extermination,around this time the Drogoskis would also arrive in Cyprus due to a fleet of their own landed. A three way war waged in Cyprus for ten long years with the Pelinos,Drogskis,and the Cypriots fought for dominion of the island. Wihtin five years the Natives where either Enslaved,slaughtered,hiding in the hills,or fled the isalnd leaving only the Pelinos and Drogoskis to fight for control of the island. The war ended not in a final battle but in a marrage between the Pelino king and the Drogoskis chieftains daighter,this act of union between the two peoples symbolized the birth of a new nation,Moedia meaning land of bronze. Over the next five hundred years the two people would become one,there nation would be established as a prominent bronze trading nation,and the capital city would be built along with their legendary docks. But now we arrive at the regin of King hykos Rastati who has a problem,the nations population is expanding rapidly and the warriors are growing bored after years of peace,yet the merchants want an uninterrupted flow of trade. Whether he choses conquest of wealth the choices he makes in he reign well affect the kingdom forever.
Miscellaneous: none

429 (This is used to mark this as an official application. If this is not present, I can't search "429" and find this application)

[G-Tech Corporation]

I built in an overpopulation safety valve, thankfully. You'll see, in time. I'll show you, I'll show you all!

[The Grim Reaper]

Ok, I've shaved it down to a city-state now. EDIT: And added an economy section >_>

Not sure stuff is worth calling a city... also, overtoleration still seems a bit advanced. But accepted.

Given my placement, overtoleration won't be a huge deal for a while. It'll just be helpful in foreign relations for foreseeable future - I don't have any qualms bringing it down a fair bit, and getting it to that point more gradually - limiting it to mainly the wealthy, who are the most culturally invested in the Vision.

it will hit everybody hard who isn't a five-horseman riddled-shithole for the entirety of the RP

hoI!

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Say, G-Tech, how do you feel about buying into this great new religion of mine? We call it cowry she - ah, the Vision.

[Finland SSR]

Itrii have the best plan for overpopulation problems: weaponize the overpopulation.

Send them to increase our territory. Settle new lands and make us the biggest culture group.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Say, G-Tech, how do you feel about buying into this great new religion of mine? We call it cowry she - ah, the Vision.

Sounds fine- the Rite of the Praternum are basically of the opinion that people can worship how they want, since all supposed deities are really just expressions of the Powers.

[Narintia]

Doom! Doom to thou heathens! The Balance of Two is the only true faith!!

[Alleniana]

I built in an overpopulation safety valve, thankfully. You'll see, in time. I'll show you, I'll show you all!

hm hm hm

Not sure stuff is worth calling a city... also, overtoleration still seems a bit advanced. But accepted.

Given my placement, overtoleration won't be a huge deal for a while. It'll just be helpful in foreign relations for foreseeable future - I don't have any qualms bringing it down a fair bit, and getting it to that point more gradually - limiting it to mainly the wealthy, who are the most culturally invested in the Vision.

Yeah, that'd be good. The Vision business just seems too forward-thinking and coherent.

Itrii have the best plan for overpopulation problems: weaponize the overpopulation.

Send them to increase our territory. Settle new lands and make us the biggest culture group.

Hordeys/barbars are pretty much the only ones exempt from overpopulation, because they can just migrate or invade someone and get everyone killed (or develop systems that can handle population better, like urban stuff), and because they're hordey disorganised barbars, that's that and there's nothing else to see.

[Rygondria]

Am i accepted ?

[Narintia]

Allen, how early in the IC can I turn Rosik from uncivilized barbar hordes to glorious Rosik civilized master race?

[Alleniana]

Am i accepted ?

Gimme a sec, going through it

Allen, how early in the IC can I turn Rosik from uncivilized barbar hordes to glorious Rosik civilized master race?

Few centuries?

[The Heavenly Commonwealth]

Reservation

Poster: The Heavenly Commonwealth
Name: Of nation you mean? Kingdom of Galith
Territory: Northern Ethiopia and Somolia

429

[Narintia]

fuk