Recorded History [OOC]

[Finland SSR]

In general; detail in one part of an app can make up for a slight deficiency in another.

As in, make your government, economic system, policy, organisation, etc. less advanced.

I'm not quite understand, Al.

ffs alt.

Allen says that you are too advanced.

[Altito Asmoro]

I'm not quite understand, Al.

ffs alt.

Allen says that you are too advanced.

I made it not advanced.

Alright, alright, I'll review my app.

[Skyviolia]

Application

Poster: The Democratic Republic of SKyviolia
Name: Vondiecona, Vondic (one person), Vondices (two or more persons)
Symbols: A loin (national animal and used to represent Vondiecona)
Territory: Southern South Africa, 12 tribal divisions.
Government Structure: We have a very tribal Government. Local Chiefs are elected by the people which then meet and elect the tribal chiefs. The Tribals Chiefs (known as Ugjidarr) select four NoblerPeople to represent the tribe on the Council of Xuise. Our upper house is the Court of Xeur, Yoxmen (members of the Court of Xeur) are either elected or appointed. We do not have a federal President as executive power is vested onto the twelve Ugjidarr. We have a Monarch, (known as the 'High Master Chief, Protecter and Guard,) but his role is limited.
Ideology/Policy: We are a tribal people who don't take kindly to foreigners.
Leaders: His Majesty Zelide XIV, High Master Chief, Monarch of Vondicecona.
Foreign Relations: We only interact with ourselves and share our own goods, some contact with foreign nations later in our history will commence.
Capital: Because we have a very weak federal government, we do not have an official capitol. However the legislator and There Majesties estate are located in Ughjigayhter.

Demographics: We are a very tribal and ethic people. Foreigners and non-culturals are unheard of. 99% of our people are ethnic to there said tribe. Our population is twelve million.
Ethnicity: We are of African Ethnicities. All of our twelve tribes are of African decent.
Language: We have four languages: Jugieanna (used the most), Maj-fedh-da, Googhedu, and Xeuqemug
Religion: None, our people do not persrible to a religion, however, spirituality is popular.
Military Organization: We have a united military under the twelve tribes, each having there own armies, commanded by His Majesty and the Ugjidarr.
Navy: Because we are very isolationist and have no need for war, our people have not needed a Navy. We do however, have a small maritime Coast Guard, which guards investments.
Air Force: We do not have an Airforce.
Space Fleet: We do not have a Space Fleet.
Economy: There is no private economy. All profits are controlled by the state who shares the money with the citizens equally. Because all citizens receive the same pay depending on how hard the worked and how much they contribute, there is little inequality.
Infrastructure: Our infrastructure is fairly well. Our roads are clean and well managed.
Trade: Mostly agriculture and building materials.
Currency: The Zagga, fiat.

History: Vondiecona is an ancient nation. It is an isolationist tribal state, records suggest that long ago (about 3,000 years ago), seven tribes united into one governing nation. Vondiecona has stayed out of any conflict and has never fought a war as of its creation and has only had any conflict, disputes, achievements, or otherwise with its neighboring countries.

Miscellaneous:
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[G-Tech Corporation]

Honestly, I'm dubious of the IR happening anywhere by the time it did historically. The likelihood of even colonization being as rapid as it was is low, because the combination of an inability to trade with the Far East and a fragmented competitive Europe are unlikely to occur with NS RPers.

That doesn't mean we won't see some IR techs pop up- but a full blow hundred years of madcap innovation is unlikely.

[Finland SSR]

a fragmented competitive Europe

Working on it.

[Alleniana]

Honestly, I'm dubious of the IR happening anywhere by the time it did historically. The likelihood of even colonization being as rapid as it was is low, because the combination of an inability to trade with the Far East and a fragmented competitive Europe are unlikely to occur with NS RPers.

That doesn't mean we won't see some IR techs pop up- but a full blow hundred years of madcap innovation is unlikely.

But the rapidity of colonisation surely doesn't matter so much; Europe wasn't about to collapse, even if the Industrial Revolution hadn't come along. Given even a century more, I suspect Europe could have carried on. And, in any case, Columbus was a bit of a nutjob; his voyage could have come earlier or later, but I still imagine the European economic factors that drove colonisation would be near the same.

As for fragmented Europe, why not?

Application

Poster: The Democratic Republic of SKyviolia
Name: Vondiecona, Vondic (one person), Vondices (two or more persons)

Airport?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Honestly, I'm dubious of the IR happening anywhere by the time it did historically. The likelihood of even colonization being as rapid as it was is low, because the combination of an inability to trade with the Far East and a fragmented competitive Europe are unlikely to occur with NS RPers.

That doesn't mean we won't see some IR techs pop up- but a full blow hundred years of madcap innovation is unlikely.

But the rapidity of colonisation surely doesn't matter so much; Europe wasn't about to collapse, even if the Industrial Revolution hadn't come along. Given even a century more, I suspect Europe could have carried on. And, in any case, Columbus was a bit of a nutjob; his voyage could have come earlier or later, but I still imagine the European economic factors that drove colonisation would be near the same.

As for fragmented Europe, why not?

Application

Poster: The Democratic Republic of SKyviolia
Name: Vondiecona, Vondic (one person), Vondices (two or more persons)

Airport?

Sure it does; in many ways the IR was a response to plentiful raw resources (from colonies) that needed to be processed by a limited population into manufactured goods to be sold (back to the colonies). Take the UK for instance- their textile mills, the foundation of Britain's IR, would never gave subsided on British resources alone, or have been nearly as profitable without the highly favorable trade terms for cotton from America/Egypt/India.

I'm sure Europe will be fragmented, but I'm betting on five powers, not the twenty five of the day. Ditto India, China, the Med, etc.

Actually, as far as Columbus goes, I'm doubtful. His voyage, and folks rounding the Horn of Africa, were responses to the end of easy access to trade routes eastward that came with the conquests of Islam. Without such an event, the trade routes will remain open, and sending a ship all the way around a continent will never be nearly as profitable as a caravan walking across Uzbekistan.

[The Grim Reaper]

Application

Poster: The Grim Reaper
Name: Nagadeva (the nation as a whole), Upaladbipa (the island of modern Sri Lanka), Kholamalya (the modern Maldives); Devatma (Demonym)
Symbols: Cowry shells represent Kholamalya specifically, but are also a symbol of Nagadeva cultural and ethnic tolerance - those which do not change - as well as Nagadeva's economic strength. Sapphires, similarly, represent Upaladbipa specifically, but are a symbol of Nagadeva religious and ideological tolerance - those which are changing - as well as Nagadeva's united military symbolism. Opals represent Nagadiva as a whole, and represent its shared political bodies and societal developments.
Territory: Sri Lanka, the Maldives

Government Structure: Nagadeva is a city-state, brought together by cultural, religious, and societal pluralism. Based on the philosophical tenets of Devarsana, or the "Vision", Nagadeva firmly believes that it is a religious calling to adopt as many faiths, ethnicities, and cultures as possible, drawn together by a joint interest in trade and the arts. Nagadeva is fundamentally a nation built on seafaring trade, using a relatively advanced fiat currency system (cowry shells, produced in Kholamalya) to make patronage and moneylending possible. Nagadeva is governed by Varasanai Raktabyati (Raktabyati the Visionary), and his apprentice, the Acarya (Father) Grantha Prabhenansa.

Built mainly on their monopoly over the currency system, controlling the use of cowry shells and the enforcement of debts denominated in cowry shells, Raktabyati is credited with creating the first organized government in Upaladbipa. Nagadeva is the capital of a loose confederation of settlements and local tribal leaders, maintaining trade relationships with their culturally aligned allies in Upaladbipa and Kholamalya. The federation between Nagadeva and settlements across Kholamalya and Upaladbipa is based on Nagadeva's status as a centre of trade, fielding a small contingent of sea-faring trade vessels. These trade routes are used to foster religious unity with the spread of the cowry shell trade being accompanied by Raktabyati's Vision, giving a formal base to the native polytheistic spiritual practices of the islands.

Ideology/Policy: Nagadeva is extremely culturally, religiously, and ethnically tolerant, to the point where it refuses to allow overassimilation. The wealthy of Nagadeva are expected to maintain culturally and artistically diverse communities, such that they can fulfill the Vision of a spiritually diverse nation. The Vision is predicated on the relationship between the physical world and the spiritual world - property owners are considered to be religious heads, and are called upon to form into religious hierarchies based on the importance of their properties. For example, Raktabyati lives at the river-harbour of Nagadeva, and derives his religious power from his spiritual link to the God of the harbour, as the harbour of Nagadeva is the 'heart' of the world. In practice, outside Nagadeva itself, these religious hierarchies tend to mirror the native traditions for the most part, utilizing household spirits, but attribute the power of local religious leaders to geographically linked higher spirits rather than traditional customs.

Leaders: Raktabyati is an ambitious, intelligent man. While generally unassuming, he is considered to be extremely charismatic and intelligent - he is heralded by some of the devout as a prophet of the spiritual world collectively. He is an extremely capable mathematician and philosopher, having developed the Vision based on his beliefs that the spiritual world, to be fundamentally 'natural' and realizable, must mirror the importance placed in the physical world on family homes, farms, and natural landmarks. What child has never looked at a mountain and felt awe, or across a sea and felt fear? These characteristics are those of the spirits, and those humans who dare to tame them tame the spirits. But not all spirits are equal, just as not all men are equal. Raktabyati came from a wealthy trading family, working as jewellers, and sending expensive gemstones to India and the Middle East via the Indian trade networks.

Grantha Prabhenansa is similarly intelligent, but does not possess the same overwhelming charisma. While respected for his intellect, he is only particularly recognized as a great mind amongst his peers - as a mathematician in particular, but also as a natural philosopher, with a seemingly innate understanding of the environment around him and how to manipulate it. An architect and dockworker by trade, as a teenager, he made his mark as a capable leader of far older men in overseeing the construction of the flighty trading vessels that form the backbone of Nagadeva's society. It was when he was in his late teen years that Raktabyati approached him, believing that a riverboat he was building was annointed by the God of the Harbour, and could take him to Kholamalya.

Raktabyati paid all that he had to rent the vessel, and shared the Vision with fortuitously agreeable merchants. He convinced them to allow him to take small amounts of goods to Kholamalya, offering them the promise of small, practical quantities of cowry shells. The spices and wood that he would take with him were light and could be carried in high quantities, even by the small boat constructed by Grantha, and fetched a large quantity in cowry shells from the needy people of Kholamalya. Introducing the Vision to Kholamalya, he called upon them to give him exclusive rights to import cowry shells, promising to match any offers from a competitor upon his return, backed by his generous first purchase. From there, Raktabyati convinced the merchants of Upaladbapi to utilize the new-found common good to barter, offering his services as a trade broker, and Grantha's as an assayer. By the time Raktabyati had reached his later years, the cowry shell had become synonymous for an arbitrary unit of trade, and allowed Raktabyati to ensure he could pay back any debt he undertook in cowry shells through his control of the cowry shell trade in far-away Kholamalya.

Foreign Relations: Nagadeva is often viewed as a strange political outcast, albeit not an unpleasant one. It is avowedly polytheistic, encouraging its residents to continue practicing their own faiths openly, but brutally cracking down on any faith that should threaten the Vision of independent, diverse religious freedoms. This includes, for instance, syncretism that does not seek to create new institutions but to co-opt existing ones - such is considered to be undermining the Vision. As a result, it is often viewed with distrust and confusion by nations across the world - however, it is valued as a fairly tame filter between monotheistic and theocratic states, and religious rivals who would seek to usurp their religion, rather than simply adopt it as another token in the Nagadeve pantheon. Other than religious tensions, Nagadeva is generally considered to be a trustworthy trade partner and militarily unassuming, with a worth in the world created more through its status as a gateway between nations, and languages. Their willingness, and capacity, to provide translators for most major languages to their immediate neighbours is welcomed, and they have a tradition of multilingualism that far outpaces many others.

Capital: The capital of Nagadeva is Nagadeva, situated at modern-day Anuradhapura.

Demographics: The population of Nagadeva is in the tens of thousands.
Ethnicity: Most who live in Nagadeva are either Veddic (Upaladbipa), or Maldivian (Kholamalya). Many other ethnicities are encouraged and supported financially, until they can establish themselves, but they are so few and far apart that they are not worth mention, besides generalised South Indian immigration.
Language: Both of the major languages in Nagadeva, Upaladi and Kholamai, are closely related. They are not mutually intelligible, but there is a widely-used tradespeak which can be used to generate mutually intelligible sentence fragments, as well as a unified numerical system. Other languages are innumerable.
Religion: Devarsana, the Vision, is a polytheistic religion incorporating a number of divine hierarchies into a pantheon. The Vision dictates that hierarchies are attached to geographic locations, shaped by and shaping the development of society as they mature. These hierarchies do not just reflect spiritual beliefs, but the hierarchy between property owners and those who tend to their property. Property owners include heads of households, shipowners, and tribal chiefs.

Military Organization: A professional army, maintained specifically to serve the Visionary in debt collection and the keeping of the peace.
Army: Extremely small, mainly utilized for policing. They number, at the most, in the dozens.
Navy: An extensive merchant marine, capable of river-transit and shallow sea operations. Capable and veteran sailors, but minimal military training - their greatest advantage is maneuverability, both by design and by skill. Most merchant retinues carry slings, which form effectively the entirity of Nagadeve martial prowess.
Air Force: 1 F-35 carrier-launched fighter jet.
Space Fleet: A very ambitious canoe.

Economy: (How is the state's economy? Describe wealth inequality, unemployment, net worth, etc. Describe the government's role, the people's attitude, and everything else relevant to the current economy as a whole) Wealth inequality in Nagadeva is relatively high. Wealth tends to be concentrated in the mercantile classes - those who are capable of organizing trade expeditions. The Visionary's government has minimal impact on the going-ons of economics, besides its role as a proto-banking institution for the wealthiest merchants in Upaladbapi, and its near-total domination of the Kholamalyan economy (accounting for only a few hundred subsistence fishermen).
Infrastructure: Nagadeva is on the cutting edge of hydraulics and coastal engineering. While it does not have the same scale of architecture as large nations, it has extraordinarily skilled craftsmen, and extremely long-term urban planning that allows for impressive feats of human endurance. Nagadeva has riverside docks built over years according to carefully cultivated plans that would put to shame even the ports of a large nation, haphazardly built around need, and irrigation channels that line the city.
Trade: Nagadeva has an extensive trade surplus, trading across Asia and into the Middle East. While it rarely endeavours to perform the entire route itself, Nagadeve traders do broker trades along the route with some frequency, and Nagadeva is well-known as a trading post, exchanging the goods of Indochina and the far east for what can be provided of the Levant and the Middle East. Nagadeva itself produces large quantities of spices, gemstones, and finished works, like glazed pots. It also promotes the use of cowry shells as a currency, by enforcing its use for essentials - requiring that debts incurred in Nagadeva be denominated by cowry shell, instead of through prior arranged goods. Such debts include the cost of maintaining vessels, and of lodgings, while attempting to sell goods, and are commonplace in Nagadeva, where the common use of the cowry shell makes them easy to calculate and repay with the assorted remains of a successful sale. Nagadeva tends to import cultural artifacts and goods of unique worth, but, more importantly, imports much of its iron. While Nagadeva is aware that it would be possible to produce iron itself, it does not have the necessary skills available to maintain high quality crucible forging at this time.
Currency: The Kholamalya cowry shell is used as a proto-currency by Nagadeva. There are no subdivisions of the cowry shell.

History: Raktabyati is considered the Visionary, the man who had the Vision and introduced it to Nagadeva. Using substantial profits from a carefully gained monopoly over the cowry shell trade, when Kholamalya remained an independent, cultural confederation of subsistence fishing villages, he was able to gain significant economic power by controlling the import of cowry shells to Upaladbipa, and the export of tools and basic resources to Kholamalya. Already used loosely as currency for traders across the world, Raktabyati promoted their use formally within the Nagadeve sphere of influence, by negotiating their use to denominate merchant debts through his promises of increasingly large services. The Vision served his goals, to promote his own interest in finding out more about the world that already used his beloved cowry shells, and to encourage the propagation of the cowry shell as a necessary tool in allowing for formal organization and propagation.

Nagadeve was a pre-existing settlement that acted as a gateway for independent villages across Upaladbipa to trade with the world at large, selling their goods to the few merchants in Nagadeva capable of extending trade routes into India, and then to the Middle East and Indochina via Indian contacts. Raktabyati's pseudo-coup of the settlement, and his positioning of himself as an economic and religious power, has given him a sphere of influence stretching throughout Upaladbipa, with the Vision appealing broadly to local powerbrokers looking to consolidate their spirituality with a strong recognition of their divine authority.
Miscellaneous: (Anything else that needs to be said that doesn't fit in an above field?)

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Ok, I've shaved it down to a city-state now. EDIT: And added an economy section >_>

Sorry to repost it, but no-one commented on it >_> it's been changed quite substantially, so I was hoping for a bit more feedback. Sorry for the constant revisions, all

[Skyviolia]

Poster: The Democratic Republic of SKyviolia
Name: Vondiecona, Vondic (one person), Vondices (two or more persons)[/box]
Airport?

I don't understand what your question is.

[Finland SSR]

Poster: The Democratic Republic of SKyviolia
Name: Vondiecona, Vondic (one person), Vondices (two or more persons)[/box]
Airport?

I don't understand what your question is.

Get used to Portal traditions. That we totally didn't just make up.

Airport?

[Skyviolia]

Reservation

Poster: The Democratic Republic of Skyviolia
Name: Vondiecona
Territory: Southern South Africa, the land should stretch from the Atlantic to Indian Ocean. Something in this area-

429

[Conwy-Shire]

African tribes in 1000BCE with 12 million population and an airport [you'll find it under infrastructure on the app], Fin needs to stop being so cryptic

[G-Tech Corporation]

Poster: The Democratic Republic of SKyviolia
Name: Vondiecona, Vondic (one person), Vondices (two or more persons)[/box]
Airport?

I don't understand what your question is.

Allen was questioning the fact that your civilization has an airport under infrastructure.

In 1000 BCE.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

I don't understand what your question is.

Allen was questioning the fact that your civilization has an airport under infrastructure.

In 1000 BCE.

"Nantucket intensifies"

[Finland SSR]

Reservation

Poster: The Democratic Republic of Skyviolia
Name: Vondiecona
Territory: Southern South Africa, the land should stretch from the Atlantic to Indian Ocean. Something in this area-
(Image)
429

I think you mixed the order of those up a bit.

You were supposed to reserve first, then app. Not the other way around...

[Liecthenbourg]

Honestly, I'm dubious of the IR happening anywhere by the time it did historically. The likelihood of even colonization being as rapid as it was is low, because the combination of an inability to trade with the Far East and a fragmented competitive Europe are unlikely to occur with NS RPers.

That doesn't mean we won't see some IR techs pop up- but a full blow hundred years of madcap innovation is unlikely.

Only Rhodesia should have the Industrial Revolution.

Shit, wrong RP

[Skyviolia]

I don't understand what your question is.

Allen was questioning the fact that your civilization has an airport under infrastructure.

In 1000 BCE.

Fixed.

[Skyviolia]

Reservation

Poster: The Democratic Republic of Skyviolia
Name: Vondiecona
Territory: Southern South Africa, the land should stretch from the Atlantic to Indian Ocean. Something in this area-
(Image)
429

I think you mixed the order of those up a bit.

You were supposed to reserve first, then app. Not the other way around...

Oh ok, Im just new to this. Sorry for acting like such a newbie.

[Finland SSR]

I think you mixed the order of those up a bit.

You were supposed to reserve first, then app. Not the other way around...

Oh ok, Im just new to this. Sorry for acting like such a newbie.

I think you're new enough that acting to be a newbie and being a newbie is indistinguishable.

[Skyviolia]

Oh ok, Im just new to this. Sorry for acting like such a newbie.

I think you're new enough that acting to be a newbie and being a newbie is indistinguishable.

Probably.

[Equalsun Empire]

Oh ok, Im just new to this. Sorry for acting like such a newbie.

I think you're new enough that acting to be a newbie and being a newbie is indistinguishable.

Hey, everybody has to be a newbie at some point

[Alleniana]

But the rapidity of colonisation surely doesn't matter so much; Europe wasn't about to collapse, even if the Industrial Revolution hadn't come along. Given even a century more, I suspect Europe could have carried on. And, in any case, Columbus was a bit of a nutjob; his voyage could have come earlier or later, but I still imagine the European economic factors that drove colonisation would be near the same.

As for fragmented Europe, why not?

Airport?

Sure it does; in many ways the IR was a response to plentiful raw resources (from colonies) that needed to be processed by a limited population into manufactured goods to be sold (back to the colonies). Take the UK for instance- their textile mills, the foundation of Britain's IR, would never gave subsided on British resources alone, or have been nearly as profitable without the highly favorable trade terms for cotton from America/Egypt/India.

I'm sure Europe will be fragmented, but I'm betting on five powers, not the twenty five of the day. Ditto India, China, the Med, etc.

Actually, as far as Columbus goes, I'm doubtful. His voyage, and folks rounding the Horn of Africa, were responses to the end of easy access to trade routes eastward that came with the conquests of Islam. Without such an event, the trade routes will remain open, and sending a ship all the way around a continent will never be nearly as profitable as a caravan walking across Uzbekistan.

Yes; can't colonies founded later rather than sooner also provide those raw resources, if later rather than sooner?

Europe of the day was fragmented, indeed, but in practise, only the Great Powers of the day mattered; and, even then, I would say that I expect a lot more than 5 powers, given there's 6 accepted and more on the way as reserved, and I do believe at least some of those who have currently applied will choose to go down to several-states-one-nation or NPC cloud road.

Again, Columbus was a nutjob. He was wrong about being able to reach Asia easily through the west, or he pretended he didn't know better (perhaps to make funding him more realistic; "voyage to India" sounds better than "voyage that will hopefully discover useful stuff"). Either way, especially considering grants made to him for revenue from newly discovered lands (does that sound like trade or colonisation?), his journey was chance, IMO. As soon as the ship technology becomes available, which would be much earlier I think, then a monarch who doesn't trust his court enough can provide funding for an off-the-side journey to whatever is westwards. In any case, the Vikings' descendants might well be making a return to Greenland; without a Columbus, IMO, we would have just seen Scandinavian-led colonisation from the north, the gradual establishment of a mid-Atlantic route, and a general top-down colonisation of the Americas. Which, incidentally, might lead to the Aztecs and Incas having more time to prepare, and thus surviving, if not indefinitely at least for longer than IRL.

I think you're new enough that acting to be a newbie and being a newbie is indistinguishable.

Hey, everybody has to be a newbie at some point

See, newbie isn't a temporal state, it's a mindset; if you really want, it's possible to stay one forever

Going through apps now. IC est veniens.

[Narintia]

by today, I mean before I next go to sleep, which will be in approximately 13 hours

NAO

hey im awake now, got a hour 30 min untill i go school, so why not check this out?

so...
uhh...

hello allen?

get lost

1v1 me m8 dbzbt3 lel get rekt scrub

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hmm, yes, fair points Allen. As I said though, I think colonization/the IR will come later than IRL in this RP. That's just my hunch though.

[The Grim Reaper]

Hmm, yes, fair points Allen. As I said though, I think colonization/the IR will come later than IRL in this RP. That's just my hunch though.

I mean, with Sri Lanka's superior development and immense economic base (/sarcasm), we will probably be introducing colonization quite early.