1855 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][REBOOT][Semi-closed]

[Rygondria]

Anyone want to conduct diplomacy with South Africa?

Maybe a talk with your dutch fatherland?

[Tracian Empire]

The current Roman Empire is directly claiming to be the successor of the Roman Empire of the old. More exactly, after the Fall of Rome, when Odoacer sent the signs of the last Western Emperor to Constantinople, the Eastern emperor of the time claimed both titles, ending the division of the Empire, even if the Western half was already lost. Ever since, despite the papal attempts to create new Roman emperors in the West( I think we had a HRE, right?), the Emperors of Constantinople have always claimed to be the direct successors of the original, though the Eastern Empire and that event.

Now, that there is no HRE, and no Western claimant, Constantinople is pretty much once again the only one claiming to be the descendant of the original Empire. That's why the Imperium will probably try again to convince the people that they're the legitimate successors.

Heh There is a Kingdom of Christendom however which is essentially southern HRE. So I have claim to Rome as well.

Yes, but as long you're not directly claiming the title of Roman Emperor, Constantinople will remain the only claimant.

[Tracian Empire]

Any plans of taking lands in the West for the Imperium have been abandoned long time ago, except for the usual bad relations with Christendom. I won't deny that Rome would love to extend its hegemony in the Eastern Mediterranean though.

The Imperium on the other hand recognizes countries like France, Cambria and Christendom as "children of Rome", because of their cultural, historical, and linguistic connections to the original Roman Empire, but considers itself as Rome's direct successor, and the Imperium will try to convince other nations to acknowledge it as sorts.

Like Lenyo says don't expect Christendom to accept that.

I wasn't expecting Christendom to do that, after all, it's Rome's biggest rival

Though, inside the Imperium, Christendom is popularly called Italia.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Like Lenyo says don't expect Christendom to accept that.

I wasn't expecting Christendom to do that, after all, it's Rome's biggest rival

Though, inside the Imperium, Christendom is popularly called Italia.

hmm, I like that even I have considered Christendom mostly Italian when I realize most of his people are African. He is essentially and African nation. lol.

[Eurasian Hegemony]

Heh There is a Kingdom of Christendom however which is essentially southern HRE. So I have claim to Rome as well.

Yes, but as long you're not directly claiming the title of Roman Emperor, Constantinople will remain the only claimant.

No the pope is claiming the third rome is based out of Malta, where as the last two were base out of rome proper. While the King does not openly accept it is generally accepted the champion of rome is the ruler of the true roma.

[Tracian Empire]

Yes, but as long you're not directly claiming the title of Roman Emperor, Constantinople will remain the only claimant.

No the pope is claiming the third rome is based out of Malta, where as the last two were base out of rome proper. While the King does not openly accept it is generally accepted the champion of rome is the ruler of the true roma.

The Imperium will obviously not like that, but as I said, as long as your King isn't directly claiming the title of "Romanorum Imperator", it won't be a big problem. Already the thing with Malta and the Third Rome have probably worsened the relations between Christendom and the Imperium, but as long as the Pope doesn't go that far and crowns a Western pretender like the Holy Roman Emperors were, it won't be that bad.

[Oscalantine]

I wasn't expecting Christendom to do that, after all, it's Rome's biggest rival

Though, inside the Imperium, Christendom is popularly called Italia.

hmm, I like that even I have considered Christendom mostly Italian when I realize most of his people are African. He is essentially and African nation. lol.

XDDD In that sense, Korea should be Southeast Asian and not Far East Asian. Asian nonetheless, but we have far more colonial territories than those in our mainland. Good to know that parts of Manchuria is still mine, however ^^

[Tracian Empire]

I wasn't expecting Christendom to do that, after all, it's Rome's biggest rival

Though, inside the Imperium, Christendom is popularly called Italia.

hmm, I like that even I have considered Christendom mostly Italian when I realize most of his people are African. He is essentially and African nation. lol.

Thinking that way, then the Imperium is mostly Middle Eastern. An African and a Middle Eastern nation are fighting for Rome.

Usually, in non-official contexts, in the Imperium there are used different names for many things. Christendom is known as Italia. Hansa is known as Germania, Cambria is known as Britannia. France is known as Gallia. The Mediterranean Sea is called Mare Nostrum or Mare Internum, even if technically it doesn't totally belong to Rome anymore.

[Oscalantine]

hmm, I like that even I have considered Christendom mostly Italian when I realize most of his people are African. He is essentially and African nation. lol.

Thinking that way, then the Imperium is mostly Middle Eastern. An African and a Middle Eastern nation are fighting for Rome.

Usually, in non-official contexts, in the Imperium there are used different names for many things. Christendom is known as Italia. Hansa is known as Germania, Cambria is known as Britannia. France is known as Gallia. The Mediterranean Sea is called Mare Nostrum or Mare Internum, even if technically it doesn't totally belong to Rome anymore.

Ooooo, what does Romans call Koreans and other East Asians?

I understand that the word "orient" comes from their perspective of "far east," as with everything else in the geopolitical scale (As far as I can remember... West is called west because it was on the west of Greek Polis... East called East for the same way... and Middle East because it was in the middle, but still to the east of Polis... and Far east or orient for Chinese folks because it was to the far, far east based on Greek perspective XDDD), but I wanted to know what would Koreans be called XDDD

[Tracian Empire]

Thinking that way, then the Imperium is mostly Middle Eastern. An African and a Middle Eastern nation are fighting for Rome.

Usually, in non-official contexts, in the Imperium there are used different names for many things. Christendom is known as Italia. Hansa is known as Germania, Cambria is known as Britannia. France is known as Gallia. The Mediterranean Sea is called Mare Nostrum or Mare Internum, even if technically it doesn't totally belong to Rome anymore.

Ooooo, what does Romans call Koreans and other East Asians?

I understand that the word "orient" comes from their perspective of "far east," as with everything else in the geopolitical scale (As far as I can remember... West is called west because it was on the west of Greek Polis... East called East for the same way... and Middle East because it was in the middle, but still to the east of Polis... and Far east or orient for Chinese folks because it was to the far, far east based on Greek perspective XDDD), but I wanted to know what would Koreans be called XDDD

Korea in general it's called by it's Latin name, Corea, ever since the alliance, they're nicknamed "amicis orientalis", so, Rome's eastern friends. East Asia in general is called the extreme orient, or Asia, since the name was translated like that from Ancient Greek to Ancient Latin.

[Second Helghan Empire]

hmm, I like that even I have considered Christendom mostly Italian when I realize most of his people are African. He is essentially and African nation. lol.

XDDD In that sense, Korea should be Southeast Asian and not Far East Asian. Asian nonetheless, but we have far more colonial territories than those in our mainland. Good to know that parts of Manchuria is still mine, however ^^

Yes but as I will recall Christendom doesn't have colonies the African bits are part of his homeland.

[Oscalantine]

Ooooo, what does Romans call Koreans and other East Asians?

I understand that the word "orient" comes from their perspective of "far east," as with everything else in the geopolitical scale (As far as I can remember... West is called west because it was on the west of Greek Polis... East called East for the same way... and Middle East because it was in the middle, but still to the east of Polis... and Far east or orient for Chinese folks because it was to the far, far east based on Greek perspective XDDD), but I wanted to know what would Koreans be called XDDD

Korea in general it's called by it's Latin name, Corea, ever since the alliance, they're nicknamed "amicis orientalis", so, Rome's eastern friends. East Asia in general is called the extreme orient, or Asia, since the name was translated like that from Ancient Greek to Ancient Latin.

Like the "C" XDDD. There was once a conspiracy theory going around that Korea started with "K" not because it is the BEST way to pronounce the "kor" sound (seriously... no one thinks of this in Korea for whatever reason), but because it is a letter coming after "J," which shows Japanese influence (close ties) with the Western Media and subtly enforcing the idea of Japanese superiority over Korea.

While I understand that the idea is dumb, the thought of Korea starting with a C always had its charm. I thank thee for making my day, good sir~!

[Oscalantine]

XDDD In that sense, Korea should be Southeast Asian and not Far East Asian. Asian nonetheless, but we have far more colonial territories than those in our mainland. Good to know that parts of Manchuria is still mine, however ^^

Yes but as I will recall Christendom doesn't have colonies the African bits are part of his homeland.

As in...... ah, I see.

Yes, Etheopia and parts of Christian Africa was part of Christendom since the very start. Now that Christendom has integrated basically entire East Africa, I guess he is generally more African than he is Italian XDDD

[The Rimworld Remnant]

Now that's it Friday, I can do the edits to my app!

[Oscalantine]

Nice ^^

And as a rule of thumb... I am planning on making final changes to the map and publishing the new version of the map (sheesh... I used to do daily updates... I should step up my gain XDDD) this Sunday (YOUR Sunday, probably my Monday).

Speaking of... going to be messaging Benuty today or tomorrow: he really hasn't been active at all... wonder what happened to him ^^;;;

[The Rimworld Remnant]

Full Nation Name : The Shia Caliphate
Majority/Official Culture : Persian
Territorial Core :

(Image)

Territorial Claim :
Capital City : Tehran, Iran
Population : 2,324,923 and counting.

Government Type : Caliphate
Government Ideology/Policies : Islamist, Militarism, Nationalist, Expansionist
Government Focus : Currently the government of the Caliphate focuses on the usual economy and military, but until very recently, a focus on modernization has begun in order for the Caliphate to survive the imperialist ambitions of the western nations.
Head of State : His Holiness Caliph Ahmed El-Sayed, Caliph of the Shiites by Allah, Leader of all Persians, Shah of Persia, Shah of Afghanistan, Shah of Pakistan, Satrap of Kerman, and Satrap of Khorasan
Head of Government : Grand Shah Assad Al-Mansour of the Titular Title of the Grand Shahdom of Herat-Farah
Government Description : The government of the Shia Caliphate is split between the Caliph and Grand Shah. The Caliph has all the important power in the realm and has the final say in every single matter in the Caliphate. The Grand Shah, when the Caliph is incapable of governing due to sickness or a regency, has the power, when the Caliph heals or turns 18, the power is given to him.

Majority/State Religion : Islam(Shia)
Religious Description : You know what Islam is.

Economic Ideologies : Islamic economy, government has say but does not have total power.
Major Production : Fruits, agricultural products like veggies, ceramic products, and metals.
Economic Description : The state of the economy of the Caliphate is rising due to the recent reforms enacted by the Grand Shah and the Caliph

Army Strength : The Caliphal Army: The land force of the Caliphate, with a history that spans to the era of the first Caliphates. Although it is not that advanced like it's Western and Eastern counterparts, the Caliphal Army still enjoys strict discipline, and harsh training, just like in the times before in the era of the first Caliphs, and weaponry is become more advanced due to the modernization program.

Army Weakness : The Caliphal Army is still technologically under-powered, and there are popular but ineffective tactics.

Naval Strength : The Caliphal Naval Forces: The force of the Caliphate on the ocean. Even though the Naval Forces aren't that strong as the Army, the Caliphate is force to be reckoned with in the Persian Sea and the Gulf of Oman. The Naval Forces have some 90 ships, and 10 ships are currently being constructed. It is enjoying strict discipline and harsh training too. It is modernizing.

Naval Weakness : Once again, it's technological inferiority.

Further Military Description : Hashshashin - Once a Shiite holy order, the Hashshashin are the professional guards of the Caliph. The Hashshashin are also experts in the art of assassination.

National Goals : Modernization of the Caliphate, Reconquer Arabia and Jerusalem, Improve the Economy, Good Relations with Russians and Romans, Colonies.
National Issues : Economy, Technology(Modernization), Get rid of conservatism and techno-phobia, Get rid of obsolete stuff that clutters up the Caliphate, Eliminate possible enemies.
National Figures of Interest :
National Ambition/Aspirations : Become greater than the greatest Caliphal Dynasty, the Umayyads.

History :

1797–1834 During the reign of Fath Ali Shah, Qajar court ceremonials are elaborated and the Gulistan Palace in Tehran is expanded. He emphasizes the ancient Persian traditions of kingship, taking the title "kings of kings" and appropriating Sasanian royal iconography. His son, Abbas Mirza (1789–1833), is appointed crown prince and governor of Azerbaijan.

• 1800 Captain John Malcolm of the British East India Company travels to Tehran to cement ties with Fath Ali Shah, whom the British hope will ally with them against the Russians. Further diplomatic embassies arrive in 1809 and 1811. The Caliphal Restoration Movement is founded in the late days of 1804

• 1805–34 In a series of wars with Russia, Fath Ali Shah loses most of the Caucasian provinces and is forced to pay reparations, which almost bankrupt the kingdom. In 1813 and 1828, the Treaties of Gulistan and Turkmanchay end the first and second Russo-Persian Wars. In 1833, Crown Prince Abbas Mirza dies, followed by the death of Fath Ali Shah in 1834. The Caliphal Restoration Movement, seeing this as an opportunity, rebel, and in the late days of the year 1834, has successfully taken over Persia. The new ruler is Caliph Osman El-Sayed at the age of 55.

• 1835 - 45 The reign of Osman El-Sayed. In an attempt to regain terrain that had been lost, Osman seizes a few provinces in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 1835, Mirza Saleh Shirazi publishes the first lithographic newspaper in Iran. In 1844, the daguerreotype is introduced in Iran. Osman dies in December 17, 1845 and his son, Ahmed El-Sayed, takes the position as caliph.

• 1845 - Present Under Ahmed, the Caliphate has undergone a great modernization and a economic boom that are still going. If this continues, the Caliphate may be restored to it's former glory, and Islam will be united.

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) :10 /10

What should I edit? Ossie?

[Oscalantine]

Full Nation Name : The Shia Caliphate
Majority/Official Culture : Persian
Territorial Core :

(Image)

Territorial Claim :
Capital City : Tehran, Iran
Population : 2,324,923 and counting.

Government Type : Caliphate
Government Ideology/Policies : Islamist, Militarism, Nationalist, Expansionist
Government Focus : Currently the government of the Caliphate focuses on the usual economy and military, but until very recently, a focus on modernization has begun in order for the Caliphate to survive the imperialist ambitions of the western nations.
Head of State : His Holiness Caliph Ahmed El-Sayed, Caliph of the Shiites by Allah, Leader of all Persians, Shah of Persia, Shah of Afghanistan, Shah of Pakistan, Satrap of Kerman, and Satrap of Khorasan
Head of Government : Grand Shah Assad Al-Mansour of the Titular Title of the Grand Shahdom of Herat-Farah
Government Description : The government of the Shia Caliphate is split between the Caliph and Grand Shah. The Caliph has all the important power in the realm and has the final say in every single matter in the Caliphate. The Grand Shah, when the Caliph is incapable of governing due to sickness or a regency, has the power, when the Caliph heals or turns 18, the power is given to him.

Majority/State Religion : Islam(Shia)
Religious Description : You know what Islam is.

Economic Ideologies : Islamic economy, government has say but does not have total power.
Major Production : Fruits, agricultural products like veggies, ceramic products, and metals.
Economic Description : The state of the economy of the Caliphate is rising due to the recent reforms enacted by the Grand Shah and the Caliph

Army Strength : The Caliphal Army: The land force of the Caliphate, with a history that spans to the era of the first Caliphates. Although it is not that advanced like it's Western and Eastern counterparts, the Caliphal Army still enjoys strict discipline, and harsh training, just like in the times before in the era of the first Caliphs, and weaponry is become more advanced due to the modernization program.

Army Weakness : The Caliphal Army is still technologically under-powered, and there are popular but ineffective tactics.

Naval Strength : The Caliphal Naval Forces: The force of the Caliphate on the ocean. Even though the Naval Forces aren't that strong as the Army, the Caliphate is force to be reckoned with in the Persian Sea and the Gulf of Oman. The Naval Forces have some 90 ships, and 10 ships are currently being constructed. It is enjoying strict discipline and harsh training too. It is modernizing.

Naval Weakness : Once again, it's technological inferiority.

Further Military Description : Hashshashin - Once a Shiite holy order, the Hashshashin are the professional guards of the Caliph. The Hashshashin are also experts in the art of assassination.

National Goals : Modernization of the Caliphate, Reconquer Arabia and Jerusalem, Improve the Economy, Good Relations with Russians and Romans, Colonies.
National Issues : Economy, Technology(Modernization), Get rid of conservatism and techno-phobia, Get rid of obsolete stuff that clutters up the Caliphate, Eliminate possible enemies.
National Figures of Interest :
National Ambition/Aspirations : Become greater than the greatest Caliphal Dynasty, the Umayyads.

History :

1797–1834 During the reign of Fath Ali Shah, Qajar court ceremonials are elaborated and the Gulistan Palace in Tehran is expanded. He emphasizes the ancient Persian traditions of kingship, taking the title "kings of kings" and appropriating Sasanian royal iconography. His son, Abbas Mirza (1789–1833), is appointed crown prince and governor of Azerbaijan.

• 1800 Captain John Malcolm of the British East India Company travels to Tehran to cement ties with Fath Ali Shah, whom the British hope will ally with them against the Russians. Further diplomatic embassies arrive in 1809 and 1811. The Caliphal Restoration Movement is founded in the late days of 1804

• 1805–34 In a series of wars with Russia, Fath Ali Shah loses most of the Caucasian provinces and is forced to pay reparations, which almost bankrupt the kingdom. In 1813 and 1828, the Treaties of Gulistan and Turkmanchay end the first and second Russo-Persian Wars. In 1833, Crown Prince Abbas Mirza dies, followed by the death of Fath Ali Shah in 1834. The Caliphal Restoration Movement, seeing this as an opportunity, rebel, and in the late days of the year 1834, has successfully taken over Persia. The new ruler is Caliph Osman El-Sayed at the age of 55.

• 1835 - 45 The reign of Osman El-Sayed. In an attempt to regain terrain that had been lost, Osman seizes a few provinces in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 1835, Mirza Saleh Shirazi publishes the first lithographic newspaper in Iran. In 1844, the daguerreotype is introduced in Iran. Osman dies in December 17, 1845 and his son, Ahmed El-Sayed, takes the position as caliph.

• 1845 - Present Under Ahmed, the Caliphate has undergone a great modernization and a economic boom that are still going. If this continues, the Caliphate may be restored to it's former glory, and Islam will be united.

Comparison Points – Political : 3
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 1
Comparison Points – Economy : 3
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) :10 /10

What should I edit? Ossie?

Ossie? That's a new one. Oscal is fine if you ask me XDDD (Still better name than that blasted Pascal... you have my thanks)

Detail. Detail detail detail detail detail. In every parts... maybe besides religion since we know what you mean ^^

I don't really mind you refraining from linking with other apps... there are history paradoxes everywhere here. Still, the points are too short. Also, this may be fixed, but I just didn't see a point of major divergence. Every app here has SOME form of divergence... some MUCH more obvious than others, to be fair, but all of them very much defining our nation's point in history.

Regardless, try to start from military details and history details. Those two stands out the most. Afterwards, we'll talk about what should be augmented to make your app complete ^^

... of course, you STILL haven't TGed me what kind of expertise you have in the region... but based on what I understood from your TG... you should technically be fine. Just remember when Rome starts crashing down on you I warned you about this XDDD

[Of the Quendi]

So I am trying to expand on Dom Pedro's personality and background a bit as I may start using him more as a character with Dom Luís taking more of a backseat with the possibility of a conservative government coming into power soon.

Therefore I have decided to equip the emperor with a wife. She would of course have to be white and catholic (the later not necessarily by birth). Any takers?

The current Roman Empire is directly claiming to be the successor of the Roman Empire of the old. More exactly, after the Fall of Rome, when Odoacer sent the signs of the last Western Emperor to Constantinople, the Eastern emperor of the time claimed both titles, ending the division of the Empire, even if the Western half was already lost. Ever since, despite the papal attempts to create new Roman emperors in the West( I think we had a HRE, right?), the Emperors of Constantinople have always claimed to be the direct successors of the original, though the Eastern Empire and that event.

Now, that there is no HRE, and no Western claimant, Constantinople is pretty much once again the only one claiming to be the descendant of the original Empire. That's why the Imperium will probably try again to convince the people that they're the legitimate successors.

The Empire of Brazil regards the Eastern Empire's claim to the western half as having been forfeit upon the accession of the female Empress Irene and the subsequent appointment of Charlemagne as West Roman Emperor. If these events didn't occur then the existence of an east-west schism would accomplish the same thing.

[The Rimworld Remnant]

Full Nation Name : The Shia Caliphate
Majority/Official Culture : Persian
Territorial Core :

(Image)

Territorial Claim :
Capital City : Tehran, Iran
Population : 2,324,923 and counting.

Government Type : Caliphate
Government Ideology/Policies : Islamist, Militarism, Nationalist, Expansionist
Government Focus : Currently the government of the Caliphate focuses on the usual economy and military, but until very recently, a focus on modernization has begun in order for the Caliphate to survive the imperialist ambitions of the western nations.
Head of State : His Holiness Caliph Ahmed El-Sayed, Caliph of the Shiites by Allah, Leader of all Persians, Shah of Persia, Shah of Afghanistan, Shah of Pakistan, Satrap of Kerman, and Satrap of Khorasan
Head of Government : Grand Shah Assad Al-Mansour of the Titular Title of the Grand Shahdom of Herat-Farah
Government Description : The government of the Shia Caliphate is split between the Caliph and Grand Shah. The Caliph has all the important power in the realm and has the final say in every single matter in the Caliphate. The Grand Shah, when the Caliph is incapable of governing due to sickness or a regency, has the power, when the Caliph heals or turns 18, the power is given to him.

Majority/State Religion : Islam(Shia)
Religious Description : You know what Islam is.

Economic Ideologies : Islamic economy, government has say but does not have total power.
Major Production : Fruits, agricultural products like veggies, ceramic products, and metals.
Economic Description : The state of the economy of the Caliphate is rising due to the recent reforms enacted by the Grand Shah and the Caliph

Army Strength : The Caliphal Army: The land force of the Caliphate, with a history that spans to the era of the first Caliphates. Although it is not that advanced like it's Western and Eastern counterparts, the Caliphal Army still enjoys strict discipline, and harsh training, just like in the times before in the era of the first Caliphs, and weaponry is becoming more advanced due to the modernization program. They recruit at least a thousand men, and the current amount of infantry in the Army is about 55,000 right now and counting and 19,000 cavalry. Their loyalty to the caliph is incomparable, as they would rather die and cause casualties on the enemy than surrender. People sometimes call this thing the "برای خدا! or For Allah!" skill. Also through this skill, they can travel from Tehran to Constantinople, Tehran to, and arrive there, with minimal casualties. The Muslim Mass Infantry is quite special from the other kinds of Mass Infantry, which, amass against the enemy. These ones use a more sneaky approach, by hiding in the mountains, they can amass against the enemy, with the element of surprise. This is very effective in the mountainous regions of Persia and the world's mountains.
Men in the Army:
8,000 Muslim Footsoldiers
8,000 Muslim Archers
10,000 Muslim Dual Infantry
10,000 Shamshir Infantry
9,000 Muslim Musketmen
10,000 Muslim Mass Infantry

Cavalry in the Army:
1,000 Musellem Cavalries
1,000 Timariot Cavalries
2,000 Spahi Cavalries
2,000 Toprakli Hit and Run Cavalries
3,000 Eastern Uhlans
3,000 Eastern Skirmishers
3,000 Toprakli Dragoons
4,000 Reformed Lancer


Army Weakness : The Caliphal Army is still technologically under-powered, and there are popular but ineffective tactics.

Naval Strength : The Caliphal Naval Forces: The force of the Caliphate on the ocean. Even though the Naval Forces aren't that strong as the Army, the Caliphate is force to be reckoned with in the Persian Sea and the Gulf of Oman. The Naval Forces have some 90 ships, and 10 ships are currently being constructed. It is enjoying strict discipline and harsh training too. It is, just like the Army, modernizing. The caliphal ships, like the army, won't surrender, instead, they use the sharp area in front of their ships to ram enemy ships, and sinking them.


Naval Weakness : Once again, it's technological inferiority.

Further Military Description : Hashshashin - Once a Shiite holy order, the Hashshashin are the professional guards of the Caliph. The Hashshashin are also experts in the art of assassination, sabotage, blackmailing, etc etc.

National Goals : Modernization of the Caliphate, Reconquer Arabia and Jerusalem, Improve the Economy, Good Relations with Russians and Romans, Colonies.
National Issues : Economy, Technology(Modernization), Get rid of conservatism and techno-phobia, Get rid of obsolete stuff that clutters up the Caliphate, Eliminate possible enemies.
National Figures of Interest : General Mohmar and General Al-Assad
National Ambition/Aspirations : Become greater than the greatest Caliphal Dynasty, the Umayyads.

History :

• 1797–1834 During the reign of Fath Ali Shah, Qajar court ceremonials are elaborated and the Gulistan Palace in Tehran is expanded. He emphasizes the ancient Persian traditions of kingship, taking the title "kings of kings" and appropriating Sasanian royal iconography. His son, Abbas Mirza (1789–1833), is appointed crown prince and governor of Azerbaijan. Mohamed El-Sayed is born in 1801, and starts the foundations of the Caliphal Restoration Movement.

• 1800 Captain John Malcolm of the British East India Company travels to Tehran to cement ties with Fath Ali Shah, whom the British hope will ally with them against the Russians. Further diplomatic embassies arrive in 1809 and 1811. The Caliphal Restoration Movement is founded in the late days of 1804

• 1805–34 In a series of wars with Russia, Fath Ali Shah loses most of the Caucasian provinces and is forced to pay reparations, which almost bankrupt the kingdom. In 1813 and 1828, the Treaties of Gulistan and Turkmanchay end the first and second Russo-Persian Wars. In 1833, Crown Prince Abbas Mirza dies, followed by the death of Fath Ali Shah in 1834. The Caliphal Restoration Movement, seeing this as an opportunity, rebel, and in the late days of the year 1834, has successfully taken over Persia. The new ruler is Caliph Osman El-Sayed at the age of 55.

• 1835 - 45 The reign of Osman El-Sayed. In an attempt to regain terrain that had been lost, Osman seizes a few provinces in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 1835, Mirza Saleh Shirazi publishes the first lithographic newspaper in Iran. In 1844, the daguerreotype is introduced in Iran. Osman dies in December 17, 1845 and his son, Ahmed El-Sayed, takes the position as caliph.

• 1845 - Present Under Ahmed, the Caliphate has undergone a great modernization and a economic boom that are still going. If this continues, the Caliphate may be restored to it's former glory, and Islam will be united.

Comparison Points – Political : 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : 3
Comparison Points – Economy : 2
Comparison Points – Military : 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) :10 /10

There Ossie! Military is done? And Stuff Done... No blank areas...

[Tracian Empire]

So I am trying to expand on Dom Pedro's personality and background a bit as I may start using him more as a character with Dom Luís taking more of a backseat with the possibility of a conservative government coming into power soon.

Therefore I have decided to equip the emperor with a wife. She would of course have to be white and catholic (the later not necessarily by birth). Any takers?

The current Roman Empire is directly claiming to be the successor of the Roman Empire of the old. More exactly, after the Fall of Rome, when Odoacer sent the signs of the last Western Emperor to Constantinople, the Eastern emperor of the time claimed both titles, ending the division of the Empire, even if the Western half was already lost. Ever since, despite the papal attempts to create new Roman emperors in the West( I think we had a HRE, right?), the Emperors of Constantinople have always claimed to be the direct successors of the original, though the Eastern Empire and that event.

Now, that there is no HRE, and no Western claimant, Constantinople is pretty much once again the only one claiming to be the descendant of the original Empire. That's why the Imperium will probably try again to convince the people that they're the legitimate successors.

The Empire of Brazil regards the Eastern Empire's claim to the western half as having been forfeit upon the accession of the female Empress Irene and the subsequent appointment of Charlemagne as West Roman Emperor. If these events didn't occur then the existence of an east-west schism would accomplish the same thing.

Exactly that's the event that started the schism and the rupture between the Imperium and the West. The Roman Empire considers itself the rightful descendant of both the Western and the Eastern Roman Empire, and refuses to acknowledge Charlemagne, and the Holy Roman Emperors as anything more than ursupers, and of course, it refuses to recognize the Pope's right to crown Roman Emperors.

[Tracian Empire]

Even if no one is willing to accept the Imperium as the lawful successor of the Western and Eastern Empires, at least, there are no Holy Roman Emperors anymore. It isn't that bad.

[Of the Quendi]

Even if no one is willing to accept the Imperium as the lawful successor of the Western and Eastern Empires, at least, there are no Holy Roman Emperors anymore. It isn't that bad.

There are the Popes. By crowning the emperors they assumed even greater power than they gave the Holy Roman Emperors.

[Oscalantine]

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There Ossie!

I can tell that we aren't going to get along very well as host and guest XDDD

I meant detail... not as in numbers of soldiers, but as in more information for your army. What makes your army special? What makes them stand out?

As for history... still more detail. I don't think much changed there... so...

If you have problems, check out other's details. I cannot accept you until you have at least that level of dedication XDDD. Otherwise I am certain someone will call me out on favoritism (to be honest, if I DID show "favoritism," it is actually more along the lines of "I am too tired or too distracted to argue, so I'll let you off the hook this time" kind of deal. I am equally biased toward everyone... even those that don't like how I OP ^^;;;)

[Oscalantine]

So I am trying to expand on Dom Pedro's personality and background a bit as I may start using him more as a character with Dom Luís taking more of a backseat with the possibility of a conservative government coming into power soon.

Therefore I have decided to equip the emperor with a wife. She would of course have to be white and catholic (the later not necessarily by birth). Any takers?

Isn't there another criteria? I mean... I doubt emperor would marry a merchant's daughter no matter HOW filthy rich her household is. I mean... Chuk-Jae-Do's Merchant families have some Dutch merchants, and they have been relatively successful. Only problem is that they are quasi Christian... as many have adapted into Cheondoism (which is sort of accepted by France... and hopefully by Christendom... as heretical religion of Christianity).

The point being... even IF I had a white, Christian women... it has to be of noble birth, no?

[Tracian Empire]

Even if no one is willing to accept the Imperium as the lawful successor of the Western and Eastern Empires, at least, there are no Holy Roman Emperors anymore. It isn't that bad.

There are the Popes. By crowning the emperors they assumed even greater power than they gave the Holy Roman Emperors.

Yeah, but luckily, right now, there is no Holy Roman Empire. And as long as the Pope doesn't do anything like that anymore, the tensions between the Roman Empire and the Kingdom of Christendom won't rise anymore. Hopefully.