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Postby The Rimworld Remnant » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:28 am

Wow, these OOC posts are comparable to IC posts, wow.
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Postby Oscalantine » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:36 am

The Rimworld Remnant wrote:Wow, these OOC posts are comparable to IC posts, wow.


Mostly my fault. The RP is really the front compared to what happened in OOC and... TG [/shudder]

All sorts of schemes, backstabbing, treaties happen over OOC and TG. It is only actualized and finalized over IC. That's probably the reasoning behind IC being so slow compared to OOC: at our height, we have over 100 pages of OOC, and only 15-ish IC XDDD.

Again... my fault. In my attempt to make the game as mechanics and metagame -free as possible (although Quendi has different feelings for than majority that has TGed me about it), I have created a monster that just keeps on feeding on my TG inbox. I like the system, though: you never know when you will be suddenly and violently destroyed XDDD

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:28 am

Edited for embarrassing mistake. :P
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Postby Oscalantine » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:24 am

Cymrea wrote:Ghondra: waiting on Arthur to join the conversation. :)


? Who is Arthur? And why am I so bad at remembering names... including my own RPC's XDDD

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:26 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Ghondra: waiting on Arthur to join the conversation. :)


? Who is Arthur? And why am I so bad at remembering names... including my own RPC's XDDD

Arthur Cunningham is the King of Victoria. :)
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Postby Oscalantine » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:38 am

Cymrea wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
? Who is Arthur? And why am I so bad at remembering names... including my own RPC's XDDD

Arthur Cunningham is the King of Victoria. :)


Now I KNOW you are in the wrong OOC XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Speaking of: haven't given on the RP just yet. I am not getting a good enough vibe with my character, and I need to edit some words towards the end. I love his persona... cliche-ness and everything... but I don't think I put enough effort on the weapons and strength/weakness stuff ^^;;;

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:14 am

Oscalantine wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Arthur Cunningham is the King of Victoria. :)


Now I KNOW you are in the wrong OOC XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Speaking of: haven't given on the RP just yet. I am not getting a good enough vibe with my character, and I need to edit some words towards the end. I love his persona... cliche-ness and everything... but I don't think I put enough effort on the weapons and strength/weakness stuff ^^;;;

Aww CRAP!

Yep, I done messed that up royally. :blush: I blame you for also being in both RPs. :P

No worries on your app. There's no real rush at the moment.
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Postby Oscalantine » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:18 am

Cymrea wrote:
Oscalantine wrote:
Now I KNOW you are in the wrong OOC XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Speaking of: haven't given on the RP just yet. I am not getting a good enough vibe with my character, and I need to edit some words towards the end. I love his persona... cliche-ness and everything... but I don't think I put enough effort on the weapons and strength/weakness stuff ^^;;;

Aww CRAP!

Yep, I done messed that up royally. :blush: I blame you for also being in both RPs. :P

No worries on your app. There's no real rush at the moment.


XDDD thought so. I could've SWORN that only Arthur in 1855: AD is Port Arthur.

Thanks ^^. I'll be on that soonish... as soon as I fix old junks T~T

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Postby Vulkanas » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:02 pm

How many post do you think would count as the time period of a month? I'm quite eager to hold my conference in Stockholm but of course I don't want to post about it unreasonably early.

On that note, I still need a reply to that invitation from Cambria and Courland.
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:50 pm

Vulkanas wrote:How many post do you think would count as the time period of a month? I'm quite eager to hold my conference in Stockholm but of course I don't want to post about it unreasonably early.

On that note, I still need a reply to that invitation from Cambria and Courland.

With Hansa's reply to your terms, the summit will be mostly establishing diplomacy and policies, yes? :)
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Postby Western Imperial Union » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:16 pm

Vulkanas wrote:How many post do you think would count as the time period of a month? I'm quite eager to hold my conference in Stockholm but of course I don't want to post about it unreasonably early.

On that note, I still need a reply to that invitation from Cambria and Courland.


I believe one page IC is a season and if we were going at the pace we had before the hiatus then we would be at something like a month per RL day. Though we are nowhere close to the pace in the other rp. I partially blame myself ... but mostly all of you :p

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Postby Oscalantine » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:52 pm

Vulkanas wrote:How many post do you think would count as the time period of a month? I'm quite eager to hold my conference in Stockholm but of course I don't want to post about it unreasonably early.

On that note, I still need a reply to that invitation from Cambria and Courland.


To answer this question... we ONCE had a situation where 1 page would equate about 3~5 month period.

HOWEVER... that is impossible to keep track of, and it sometimes lulls the timeframe a bit.

Thus, when I feel like it, I make official post to signify change in years. I guess I should do so soon... just never got around to it and I don't think some posts have resolved things that tantamount 1 year period ^^;;;

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:45 am

Now that I think about it, do the other nations in the world recognize the current Roman Empire as the successor and heir of the ancient Roman Empire?
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Postby Lenyo » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:55 am

Tracian Empire wrote:Now that I think about it, do the other nations in the world recognize the current Roman Empire as the successor and heir of the ancient Roman Empire?

What do you mean by recognize? There's an obvious cultural connection between the old Rome and the Imperium, but geopolitically they have nothing in common.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:05 am

Lenyo wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Now that I think about it, do the other nations in the world recognize the current Roman Empire as the successor and heir of the ancient Roman Empire?

What do you mean by recognize? There's an obvious cultural connection between the old Rome and the Imperium, but geopolitically they have nothing in common.


The current Roman Empire is directly claiming to be the successor of the Roman Empire of the old. More exactly, after the Fall of Rome, when Odoacer sent the signs of the last Western Emperor to Constantinople, the Eastern emperor of the time claimed both titles, ending the division of the Empire, even if the Western half was already lost. Ever since, despite the papal attempts to create new Roman emperors in the West( I think we had a HRE, right?), the Emperors of Constantinople have always claimed to be the direct successors of the original, though the Eastern Empire and that event.

Now, that there is no HRE, and no Western claimant, Constantinople is pretty much once again the only one claiming to be the descendant of the original Empire. That's why the Imperium will probably try again to convince the people that they're the legitimate successors.
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Postby Vulkanas » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:11 am

Cymrea wrote:
Vulkanas wrote:How many post do you think would count as the time period of a month? I'm quite eager to hold my conference in Stockholm but of course I don't want to post about it unreasonably early.

On that note, I still need a reply to that invitation from Cambria and Courland.

With Hansa's reply to your terms, the summit will be mostly establishing diplomacy and policies, yes? :)

Yes, especially focusing on the 'intervention' which you talked about in your post on the failed summit in Copenhagen.
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Postby Lenyo » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:12 am

Since France also has a cultural and linguistic legacy from Rome, it's not going to announce that Imperium owns that heritage, because the Roman Empire is so associated with greatness. France won't recognize anyone as the official heir to Rome, especially if that's a guise to claim lands along the Mediterranean Sea. France's Roman pride is a lot more quiet than Imperium's, but it exists.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:22 am

Lenyo wrote:Since France also has a cultural and linguistic legacy from Rome, it's not going to announce that Imperium owns that heritage, because the Roman Empire is so associated with greatness. France won't recognize anyone as the official heir to Rome, especially if that's a guise to claim lands along the Mediterranean Sea. France's Roman pride is a lot more quiet than Imperium's, but it exists.


Any plans of taking lands in the West for the Imperium have been abandoned long time ago, except for the usual bad relations with Christendom. I won't deny that Rome would love to extend its hegemony in the Eastern Mediterranean though.

The Imperium on the other hand recognizes countries like France, Cambria and Christendom as "children of Rome", because of their cultural, historical, and linguistic connections to the original Roman Empire, but considers itself as Rome's direct successor, and the Imperium will try to convince other nations to acknowledge it as sorts.
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Postby Lenyo » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:28 am

Tracian Empire wrote:The Imperium on the other hand recognizes countries like France, Cambria and Christendom as "children of Rome", because of their cultural, historical, and linguistic connections to the original Roman Empire, but considers itself as Rome's direct successor, and the Imperium will try to convince other nations to acknowledge it as sorts.

Makes sense. France is super haughty, so don't expect France to ever agree to that formulation.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:29 am

Lenyo wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:The Imperium on the other hand recognizes countries like France, Cambria and Christendom as "children of Rome", because of their cultural, historical, and linguistic connections to the original Roman Empire, but considers itself as Rome's direct successor, and the Imperium will try to convince other nations to acknowledge it as sorts.

Makes sense. France is super haughty, so don't expect France to ever agree to that formulation.


The Imperium will still try. Unfortunately, it suffers from the same complex as the real life Byzantine Empire, trying to be acknowledged.
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Postby Cabana » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:47 am

Anyone want to conduct diplomacy with South Africa?
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Postby Eurasian Hegemony » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:14 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
Lenyo wrote:What do you mean by recognize? There's an obvious cultural connection between the old Rome and the Imperium, but geopolitically they have nothing in common.


The current Roman Empire is directly claiming to be the successor of the Roman Empire of the old. More exactly, after the Fall of Rome, when Odoacer sent the signs of the last Western Emperor to Constantinople, the Eastern emperor of the time claimed both titles, ending the division of the Empire, even if the Western half was already lost. Ever since, despite the papal attempts to create new Roman emperors in the West( I think we had a HRE, right?), the Emperors of Constantinople have always claimed to be the direct successors of the original, though the Eastern Empire and that event.

Now, that there is no HRE, and no Western claimant, Constantinople is pretty much once again the only one claiming to be the descendant of the original Empire. That's why the Imperium will probably try again to convince the people that they're the legitimate successors.



Heh There is a Kingdom of Christendom however which is essentially southern HRE. So I have claim to Rome as well.

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Postby Eurasian Hegemony » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:23 pm

Lenyo wrote:Since France also has a cultural and linguistic legacy from Rome, it's not going to announce that Imperium owns that heritage, because the Roman Empire is so associated with greatness. France won't recognize anyone as the official heir to Rome, especially if that's a guise to claim lands along the Mediterranean Sea. France's Roman pride is a lot more quiet than Imperium's, but it exists.


Christendom also recognizes it has descended from rome. However it also doesn't want to say out loud, Hey I am the descendant of rome. Mostly because they feel rome was corrupt and tyrranical.

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Postby Eurasian Hegemony » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:24 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
Lenyo wrote:Since France also has a cultural and linguistic legacy from Rome, it's not going to announce that Imperium owns that heritage, because the Roman Empire is so associated with greatness. France won't recognize anyone as the official heir to Rome, especially if that's a guise to claim lands along the Mediterranean Sea. France's Roman pride is a lot more quiet than Imperium's, but it exists.


Any plans of taking lands in the West for the Imperium have been abandoned long time ago, except for the usual bad relations with Christendom. I won't deny that Rome would love to extend its hegemony in the Eastern Mediterranean though.

The Imperium on the other hand recognizes countries like France, Cambria and Christendom as "children of Rome", because of their cultural, historical, and linguistic connections to the original Roman Empire, but considers itself as Rome's direct successor, and the Imperium will try to convince other nations to acknowledge it as sorts.


Like Lenyo says don't expect Christendom to accept that.

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Postby Eurasian Hegemony » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:34 pm

Cabana wrote:Anyone want to conduct diplomacy with South Africa?


Sure contact the Kingdom and we will start talking with you.

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