1855 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][REBOOT][Semi-closed]

[Rygondria]

Hey RY! respond to my post!

Also I did some research. Your flooding isn't stooping my boys from those forts. Here is a map of the parts of your country below sea level and above.

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It does however stop my direct attack on your larger cities, however they are not on the chopping block yet.

ok

[Second Helghan Empire]

Everyone is killing Muslims, and Rome is just sitting here with a complete religious freedom.

Hey! I have freedom of religion.

Yeah me too! Though we Hanse are trying to convert our people to Asatruer.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

So no one else wants to support a side in the Breton Civil War? If no one wants to besides France I'll just finish it up today.

[Tracian Empire]

So no one else wants to support a side in the Breton Civil War? If no one wants to besides France I'll just finish it up today.

Rome would obviously love to support the monarchy, but the last time I tried to get involved in Western matters I almost started a world war.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

So no one else wants to support a side in the Breton Civil War? If no one wants to besides France I'll just finish it up today.

Rome would obviously love to support the monarchy, but the last time I tried to get involved in Western matters I almost started a world war.

Oh yeah lol. Alright, I guess I'll finish the BCW today.

[Tracian Empire]

Rome would obviously love to support the monarchy, but the last time I tried to get involved in Western matters I almost started a world war.

Oh yeah lol. Alright, I guess I'll finish the BCW today.

If any monarchists survive, they will be welcome to request asylum in the Imperium. That's the only thing I can do.

[Lenyo]

So no one else wants to support a side in the Breton Civil War? If no one wants to besides France I'll just finish it up today.

I'll post after you.

[Zionatra]

Everyone is killing Muslims, and Rome is just sitting here with a complete religious freedom.

Woah! I am not out right genociding them, just imprisoning families who refuse to completely comply with Jewish government. This isn't unlike what was done across the world by europe at this time, so honestly there is little chance that this will ruffle any feathers internationally. However conversion rates are up and crime is down except in the new slums. Really just do to little access to food and water in the tent city slums.

Anyway there is little chance of serious muslim resistance due to the zero tolerance laws. It is extremely hard for those oppressed to escape the areas they are oppressed in. The prisons are in the middle of the desert and water is in a lockable well. The guards are given orders should a prisoner uprising occur they are to drop the key down the well and then lock the well. With the iron grate over it the prisoners would die of thirst before they could get anywhere.

On top of that the sheer military advantage is astonishing. Armed with repeaters, needle rifles, and now even a few gatling guns the Israelite military is able to maintain strict and rigid control over the growing tent city slums.

Honestly though if the Israelites wanted to genocide the muslims they would fail. There is simply too many, however at this point in time the majority live in the slums except for the cooperators which are paid hefty salaries to sell out their fellow muslims as either non cooperative or simply as dangerous individuals, the latter get sent straight to the prisons, or are executed in the designated "dissident" execution zones, which just thick walls used for lining up victims of firing squads.

I don't doubt a lot of muslim people would be fleeing my territories for places like Christen Arabia, where they seem to be relatively left in charge of their territory.

[Eurasian Hegemony]

I will supply arms to the Monarchists if they any sort of chance at winning though if I understand correctly the overwhelming majority of citizens of Brittany are rebelling.

[Cymrea]

Woah! I am not out right genociding them, just...

Doing things that make outright genocide an almost preferable choice.


Murderer.

[Cymrea]

Rome would obviously love to support the monarchy, but the last time I tried to get involved in Western matters I almost started a world war.

Oh yeah lol. Alright, I guess I'll finish the BCW today.

Any Bretons fleeing Brittany are welcome in Cambria, though any who have committed crimes (as interpreted by the Cambrian Supreme Court) will be returned to whatever government prevails in Brittany. Officially, Cambria will remain neutral in the conflict.

[Zionatra]

Woah! I am not out right genociding them, just...

Doing things that make outright genocide an almost preferable choice.


Murderer.

.... Hey I am trying to build a stable nation for the future children of Israel....Ugh that just sounds nazi. Not as nazi as this though...


He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future-Adolf Hitler

Sadly it is a true statement, and that is exactly what I plan on doing, the government will own the youth.

[Tracian Empire]

Everyone is killing Muslims, and Rome is just sitting here with a complete religious freedom.

Woah! I am not out right genociding them, just imprisoning families who refuse to completely comply with Jewish government. This isn't unlike what was done across the world by europe at this time, so honestly there is little chance that this will ruffle any feathers internationally. However conversion rates are up and crime is down except in the new slums. Really just do to little access to food and water in the tent city slums.

Anyway there is little chance of serious muslim resistance due to the zero tolerance laws. It is extremely hard for those oppressed to escape the areas they are oppressed in. The prisons are in the middle of the desert and water is in a lockable well. The guards are given orders should a prisoner uprising occur they are to drop the key down the well and then lock the well. With the iron grate over it the prisoners would die of thirst before they could get anywhere.

On top of that the sheer military advantage is astonishing. Armed with repeaters, needle rifles, and now even a few gatling guns the Israelite military is able to maintain strict and rigid control over the growing tent city slums.

Honestly though if the Israelites wanted to genocide the muslims they would fail. There is simply too many, however at this point in time the majority live in the slums except for the cooperators which are paid hefty salaries to sell out their fellow muslims as either non cooperative or simply as dangerous individuals, the latter get sent straight to the prisons, or are executed in the designated "dissident" execution zones, which just thick walls used for lining up victims of firing squads.

I don't doubt a lot of muslim people would be fleeing my territories for places like Christen Arabia, where they seem to be relatively left in charge of their territory.

Well, it's your nation, your choice. I can understand the reasons behind your actions.

Rome on the other hand is far more liberal. It doesn't persecute people for their religion, as I said, the Imperium has total religious freedom. The Imperial authorities only have something against the ones who rebel against the Imperial authority. Against rebels, the Imperium is mainly using a divide et impera tactic, with all these many different people in the Middle East, there are many different rebellion movements. The Imperium is pushing them to fight against one each other, and just finishes the job.

Usually, only the ones who openly and by arm fight against the Imperium are really punished the law, but the Imperium isn't executing or imprisoning them, we're using them in our construction projects. The Constantinople-Babylon railway won't built itself, as a an example.

[Zionatra]

They are being sent to labor camps. These sites also have quarries, and valuable resources allowing for the acquisition of items by the government through prisoner labor. Then cheap labor from those in the slums is going to be used to build great works.

[Old Tyrannia]

This is why we ought to have a strong Islamic nation. So that Muslims don't get brutalised by Jewish Nazis.

Hey, that gives me an idea for an event. What if a charismatic figure claiming to be the Mahdi arose somewhere in the Middle-East, and called upon Muslims everywhere to rise against the infidel oppressors? We could have a global Muslim uprising.

[Zionatra]

This is why we ought to have a strong Islamic nation. So that Muslims don't get brutalised by Jewish Nazis.

Hey, that gives me an idea for an event. What if a charismatic figure claiming to be the Mahdi arose somewhere in the Middle-East, and called upon Muslims everywhere to rise against the infidel oppressors? We could have a global Muslim uprising.

Inb4 I would kill him. then an actual genocide would start.

[Cymrea]

This is why we ought to have a strong Islamic nation. So that Muslims don't get brutalised by Jewish Nazis.

Hey, that gives me an idea for an event. What if a charismatic figure claiming to be the Mahdi arose somewhere in the Middle-East, and called upon Muslims everywhere to rise against the infidel oppressors? We could have a global Muslim uprising.

Inb4 I would kill him. then an actual genocide would start.

A world war would likely result, with Jews playing the part of the genocidal instigators. Certainly a 180 on RL, but also probably just as dark and reprehensible.

[Tracian Empire]

This is why we ought to have a strong Islamic nation. So that Muslims don't get brutalised by Jewish Nazis.

Hey, that gives me an idea for an event. What if a charismatic figure claiming to be the Mahdi arose somewhere in the Middle-East, and called upon Muslims everywhere to rise against the infidel oppressors? We could have a global Muslim uprising.

It could happen, but the Imperium is really sensitive about uprisings. It probably won't end well.

[Lenyo]

This is why we ought to have a strong Islamic nation. So that Muslims don't get brutalised by Jewish Nazis.

Hey, that gives me an idea for an event. What if a charismatic figure claiming to be the Mahdi arose somewhere in the Middle-East, and called upon Muslims everywhere to rise against the infidel oppressors? We could have a global Muslim uprising.

Sure, that would stir things up.

[Old Tyrannia]

This is why we ought to have a strong Islamic nation. So that Muslims don't get brutalised by Jewish Nazis.

Hey, that gives me an idea for an event. What if a charismatic figure claiming to be the Mahdi arose somewhere in the Middle-East, and called upon Muslims everywhere to rise against the infidel oppressors? We could have a global Muslim uprising.

Inb4 I would kill him. then an actual genocide would start.

Considering the amount of trouble that the British Empire in RL had with the self-proclaimed Mahdi in the Sudan, I highly doubt puny Israel would be able to deal with such an uprising so easily

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

This is why we ought to have a strong Islamic nation. So that Muslims don't get brutalised by Jewish Nazis.

Hey, that gives me an idea for an event. What if a charismatic figure claiming to be the Mahdi arose somewhere in the Middle-East, and called upon Muslims everywhere to rise against the infidel oppressors? We could have a global Muslim uprising.

First off, Jewish Nazis=Not possible. Jewish Fascists, you mean.
Second, feel free to do that. No Muslims in my country or colonies. Maybe some in Sidi Ifni, but the people there are less "YES MUSLIM NATIONALISM" and more "how much money do you have, and how much can you pay me to like you?"

[Zionatra]

Inb4 I would kill him. then an actual genocide would start.

Considering the amount of trouble that the British Empire in RL had with the self-proclaimed Mahdi in the Sudan, I highly doubt puny Israel would be able to deal with such an uprising so easily

Oh come now the Japanese aren't really very powerful either are they? When they are sold land by the Dutch they don't even send their troops there when Hansa soldiers tarting tearing it up by marching across it, they just divert their navy to Saxavhall.

As of right now 70% of the muslims within my borders live in side a tent slum surrounded by a wall or in prisons or as nomads in the desert.

Around 25% are it's supporters with lots of money being given to them to remember their place as persons of employ by the crown.

4.5% are being slowly pushed into the prisons and slums, and lastly .5% work for the Israelite government simply under the promise of their family remaining out of the prisons.


As you are saying I don't already have the vast majority of my borders under my control completely. That is wrong. My society is even more rigid than japan was during the feudal era. Those who speak out against the government while residing in a low position of government stand no chance as complete annihilation begins. A simple fire in the slums could take hundreds upon hundreds of lives.

Inb4 I would kill him. then an actual genocide would start.

A world war would likely result, with Jews playing the part of the genocidal instigators. Certainly a 180 on RL, but also probably just as dark and reprehensible.

Why would Cambria come to the rescue of those under my rule? Would the world really go to war over a genocide because no nations has ever gone to war with another over the genocide of a people that do not represent the majority of that nation.

WW2 was not because of genocide it was because of German expansion. In fact during the war when given the chance to divert resources to diminish the effectiveness of the Nazi final solution they failed to do so as Allied High command felt it more important to pursue targets against the Wermacht.

[Eurasian Hegemony]

Inb4 I would kill him. then an actual genocide would start.

Considering the amount of trouble that the British Empire in RL had with the self-proclaimed Mahdi in the Sudan, I highly doubt puny Israel would be able to deal with such an uprising so easily

That was one province. If muslims start uniting Israel has my support and I would have to join in on his evilness...

Which is fine, while egypt and arabia is mostly muslim I have been converting the holdouts in east africa. So like Ethiopia they are predominantly christian now, catholic even. This is thanks to the pirate thing as muslims were forced away from the coasts five or six years ago to cripple the green flag ranks.

[Old Tyrannia]

Considering the amount of trouble that the British Empire in RL had with the self-proclaimed Mahdi in the Sudan, I highly doubt puny Israel would be able to deal with such an uprising so easily

Oh come now the Japanese aren't really very powerful either are they? When they are sold land by the Dutch they don't even send their troops there when Hansa soldiers tarting tearing it up by marching across it, they just divert their navy to Saxavhall.

Where on Earth did you get the idea that I wasn't going to respond to Helghan's invasion? I've just been busy. And Japan is obviously far more powerful than you.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Down with the Queen! Long Live the President!