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Postby Zelent » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:17 pm

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The United Roleplay OPs wrote:Amuaplye, it seems some people are concerned with your RPing as it is a little vague.

Sorry.

How big is each division, and how well equipped? Keep in mind that the peacetime strength of the National People's Army IRL was 6 Divisions, and 5 more reserve ones.
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Postby Arkotania » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:27 pm

For the sake of continuity...let's just assume I gobbled up Peru after a successful airborne assault(thanks to the provision of British equipment and training) which resulted in Bolivia attending as a signatory of the treaty, making both Peru and Bolivia part of Gran Colombia(of course with the state of Peru being smaller with Ecuador, Colombia, and Bolivia taking large chunks of it)
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I see there's a war with the Arab Union. I had promised the UK manpower in return for their assistance and the UK player can assume I honored it with an initial batch of 90k troops(a predominant chunk being Peruvian so they aren't exactly quality troops but this way they won't threaten the stability of Gran Colombia since we conquered them). I can RP the next batch of troops myself if you could update me on where they'll be sent.

Hopefully I haven't missed anything else relevant.
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Postby Amuaplye » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:40 pm

Zelent wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:Sorry.

How big is each division, and how well equipped? Keep in mind that the peacetime strength of the National People's Army IRL was 6 Divisions, and 5 more reserve ones.

About 1,000 troops maximum, commonly 500 per divison.
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Postby Arkotania » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:43 pm

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Zelent wrote:How big is each division, and how well equipped? Keep in mind that the peacetime strength of the National People's Army IRL was 6 Divisions, and 5 more reserve ones.

About 1,000 troops maximum, commonly 500 per divison.


That's a little small for a division isn't it? Sounds more like a battalion.
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Arkotania wrote:
Then your testicles become strange tentacles.


And then you make films in Japan.

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Arkotania wrote:Or maybe NS is also a degraded society.

This. Definitely this.

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Qatarab(Arkotania Puppet) wrote:Where's my torch? Time to burn some courts down.


Oh, you crazy Muslim you!

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Postby Red Party » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:45 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
Zelent wrote:How big is each division, and how well equipped? Keep in mind that the peacetime strength of the National People's Army IRL was 6 Divisions, and 5 more reserve ones.

About 1,000 troops maximum, commonly 500 per divison.

Divisions are usually 10,000 to 18,000 soldiers.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:58 pm

Arkotania wrote:For the sake of continuity...let's just assume I gobbled up Peru after a successful airborne assault(thanks to the provision of British equipment and training) which resulted in Bolivia attending as a signatory of the treaty, making both Peru and Bolivia part of Gran Colombia(of course with the state of Peru being smaller with Ecuador, Colombia, and Bolivia taking large chunks of it)


I see there's a war with the Arab Union. I had promised the UK manpower in return for their assistance and the UK player can assume I honored it with an initial batch of 90k troops(a predominant chunk being Peruvian so they aren't exactly quality troops but this way they won't threaten the stability of Gran Colombia since we conquered them). I can RP the next batch of troops myself if you could update me on where they'll be sent.

Hopefully I haven't missed anything else relevant.


that's fine with me.

I will be sure to start alliances with Argentina and Brazil, seeing as how they would be fearful of you at the time.
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Postby Zelent » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:01 pm

Arkotania wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:About 1,000 troops maximum, commonly 500 per divison.


That's a little small for a division isn't it? Sounds more like a battalion.

lol it just made my job a whole lot easier. 8)
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Postby Amuaplye » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:04 pm

Zelent wrote:
Arkotania wrote:
That's a little small for a division isn't it? Sounds more like a battalion.

lol it just made my job a whole lot easier. 8)

The same thing applies to planes and tanks. So, you're still in a rather sticky situation, with about 3,500 soldiers, 1,500 tanks, and 4,000 planes.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:09 pm

A squad is 10 men, a platoon is between 80-100 men, a garrison is 1,000 men, a division is between 3,000 and 5,000, and a Army Corps is 50,000- 100,000
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:09 pm

That is absolutely horrendous troop composition by Ampylua.

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Postby Amuaplye » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:11 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:That is absolutely horrendous troop composition by Ampylua.

Yeah... come to think of it... Maybe, 1,000 for all three. A thousand total.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:14 pm

Red Party, where are you getting tanks from? You only seized three buildings.
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Postby Zelent » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:15 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
Zelent wrote:lol it just made my job a whole lot easier. 8)

The same thing applies to planes and tanks. So, you're still in a rather sticky situation, with about 3,500 soldiers, 1,500 tanks, and 4,000 planes.

3,500 soldiers is litterally about the sized as a better equipped and trained West German brigade. 1,500 Soviet tanks < 2,000 German/American made tanks, + 700 Self propelled anti-tank guns + Each squad having a designated Anti-tank rifleman armed with a PzF 44, having a armor penetration of 370 mm, enough to take out any of your tanks up to 400 meters, or about a quarter mile.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:17 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:That is absolutely horrendous troop composition by Ampylua.

Yeah... come to think of it... Maybe, 1,000 for all three. A thousand total.

The army is capable of putting 400k in the army in times of war, 45k airmen and 800 combat aircraft, alongwith 27k sailors and marines plus 200k militiamen. Distribute that as you want.
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Postby Red Party » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:17 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:Red Party, where are you getting tanks from? You only seized three buildings.

Remember that sum of money the British gave me earlier? Well i bought some tanks and it was from a small base, I can lower it to 5 tanks if you'd like.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:20 pm

Yeah, having tanks seems a bit much.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:21 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:Yeah, having tanks seems a bit much.

I am inclined to agree with Cristo on this one. Red Party you can either have technicals and/or armored cars, and at the very most IFV's.

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Postby Amuaplye » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:22 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:Yeah... come to think of it... Maybe, 1,000 for all three. A thousand total.

The army is capable of putting 400k in the army in times of war, 45k airmen and 800 combat aircraft, alongwith 27k sailors and marines plus 200k militiamen. Distribute that as you want.

But, doesn't East Germany probably have tanks from trade with the USSR?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:25 pm

Yeah, but tanks require people to operate, and have high logistical requirements. So it is extremely ill advised to have more than a 1 tank:50 infantrymen.

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Postby Red Party » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:26 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:Yeah, having tanks seems a bit much.

I am inclined to agree with Cristo on this one. Red Party you can either have technicals and/or armored cars, and at the very most IFV's.

I'll edit to Alvis FV104 Samaritan's
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:27 pm

If Amuaplye cannot come up with a good army composition I am assigning the default one to him.

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Postby Red Party » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:27 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:If Amuaplye cannot come up with a good army composition I am assigning the default one to him.

Edited btw. Would America like to establish relations with Lebanon?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:28 pm

Red Party wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I am inclined to agree with Cristo on this one. Red Party you can either have technicals and/or armored cars, and at the very most IFV's.

I'll edit to Alvis FV104 Samaritan's

Those are armored hospitals

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:29 pm

Here is the NVA ground forces default ORBAT

1. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Potsdam-Eiche)
4. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Erfurt)
6. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Königswartha)
7. Panzerdivision (Dresden)
8. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Schwerin)
9. Panzerdivision (Eggesin)
10. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Ronneburg)
11. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Halle)
17. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Petersroda)
19. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Wulkow)
20. Motorisierte-Schützen-Division (Bredenfelde)

Oh and East Germany can mobilize 50k border guards.
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Postby Amuaplye » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:29 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Yeah, but tanks require people to operate, and have high logistical requirements. So it is extremely ill advised to have more than a 1 tank:50 infantrymen.

Then, no tanks. I'll go with the one you proposed. (But, around half of those will be in Berlin, with smaller reserve battalions in place.)
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