The Titans (Portal to the Multiverse RP Group)

[Saleon]

Mister Harbertia!~ ^w^

that's mister doctor professor Harbertis the second, to you!

[Galnius]

Mister Harbertia!~ ^w^

My, you're here!

[Rynagria]

Mister Harbertia!~ ^w^

My, you're here!

Just goes to show how much influence Harb had on the Titans.

[Harbertia]

Hi Ky and Gal Great to see you both!

We've been discussing an RP, and I shall continue to do so by addressing some comments by Ryn and Av.

I have read Av's suggestions, and Ryn's insight (pointing out that the Dragons of Zid are sentient beings who have been known to command nations).

Having reviewed Av's comments on the tech, I think I've got it;

In old Zid we had The Dragon Wars. The Dragon Wars began as a feud between Chromatic and Metallic dragons; or so it's typically seen (as with all conflicts their where outliners on either side who didn't fit the image). The Conflict came about due to the spread of Dragon Cults which worshiped Dragons, and the differing philosophies regarding governance that the dragons had. Essentially, delusions of godhood fueled a massive war.

The Conflict resulted in dragons nearly becoming extinct. In that time Dragons had ruled mankind, but when the Dragonic Dynasties fell mankind began to rule himself. Early rules in this era had been great generals of the war; with Ethanal Zid being among them. Ethanal was the first Sorcerer King of Zid and had spared an egg of a Chromatic dragon. He raised the hatchling as a member of his household. That dragon was Elenor.

I think I digressed- to the points I was leading up to. We can have that the Dragon Wars gave rise to motorized flight as entire air wings fought alongside their dragonic monarchs against rival dragons. This (unfortunately for Dragons) ended Dragonic Air Superiority.

By the conflict's end Dragons where both uncommon, nationless, fragmented, and distrusted. It's stated that after the Dragon Wars the remaining Dragonic leaders signed a treaty promising never to war with one another again for the sake of the species.

The most prominent signer of this document is the Dragon King of Colm. His nation is the only part of the world where Goblins and man live as equals (with in a militaristic power structure as the Dragon King uses his military to rule the realm. They guard huge fields where the people work on a schedule, live on land he owns- he's a really bad dictator who is living as the Chromatic Dragons believed governance should be).

He has been at odds with the nation of Alterra, and if he where to launch a full invasion-

We'd need Colm to be larger state for him to be the only threat, other wise he'd need an alliance, a group of powers by his side to be of much of a threat- I think, what are your thoughts concerning a war started by the Dragon King of Colm?

Old data, we'll easily be able to make Colm a worthy threat.

[Harbertia]

For Gal and Ky who may not know we're bringing the World of Zid back but with some World War One technology.

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

Hi Ky and Gal Great to see you both!

We've been discussing an RP, and I shall continue to do so by addressing some comments by Ryn and Av.

I have read Av's suggestions, and Ryn's insight (pointing out that the Dragons of Zid are sentient beings who have been known to command nations).

Having reviewed Av's comments on the tech, I think I've got it;

In old Zid we had The Dragon Wars. The Dragon Wars began as a feud between Chromatic and Metallic dragons; or so it's typically seen (as with all conflicts their where outliners on either side who didn't fit the image). The Conflict came about due to the spread of Dragon Cults which worshiped Dragons, and the differing philosophies regarding governance that the dragons had. Essentially, delusions of godhood fueled a massive war.

The Conflict resulted in dragons nearly becoming extinct. In that time Dragons had ruled mankind, but when the Dragonic Dynasties fell mankind began to rule himself. Early rules in this era had been great generals of the war; with Ethanal Zid being among them. Ethanal was the first Sorcerer King of Zid and had spared an egg of a Chromatic dragon. He raised the hatchling as a member of his household. That dragon was Elenor.

I think I digressed- to the points I was leading up to. We can have that the Dragon Wars gave rise to motorized flight as entire air wings fought alongside their dragonic monarchs against rival dragons. This (unfortunately for Dragons) ended Dragonic Air Superiority.

By the conflict's end Dragons where both uncommon, nationless, fragmented, and distrusted. It's stated that after the Dragon Wars the remaining Dragonic leaders signed a treaty promising never to war with one another again for the sake of the species.

The most prominent signer of this document is the Dragon King of Colm. His nation is the only part of the world where Goblins and man live as equals (with in a militaristic power structure as the Dragon King uses his military to rule the realm. They guard huge fields where the people work on a schedule, live on land he owns- he's a really bad dictator who is living as the Chromatic Dragons believed governance should be).

He has been at odds with the nation of Alterra, and if he where to launch a full invasion-

We'd need Colm to be larger state for him to be the only threat, other wise he'd need an alliance, a group of powers by his side to be of much of a threat- I think, what are your thoughts concerning a war started by the Dragon King of Colm?

Old data, we'll easily be able to make Colm a worthy threat.

Would be interesting, I thought we were saving him for the second global conflict though where one evil empire tries to annex all the nations around it before attempting to take over the world?

I was kind of hoping for something that was really an over escalated minor issue. That is what makes WWI so interesting, it was the first major global conflict and it all kicked off because one guy annexed a country and then got assassinated - as far as I remember it anyway. It was a small issue that then for some reason grew to involve the entire planet. Kind of makes it a bit laughable in the end.

[Harbertia]

Hi Ky and Gal Great to see you both!

We've been discussing an RP, and I shall continue to do so by addressing some comments by Ryn and Av.

I have read Av's suggestions, and Ryn's insight (pointing out that the Dragons of Zid are sentient beings who have been known to command nations).

Having reviewed Av's comments on the tech, I think I've got it;

In old Zid we had The Dragon Wars. The Dragon Wars began as a feud between Chromatic and Metallic dragons; or so it's typically seen (as with all conflicts their where outliners on either side who didn't fit the image). The Conflict came about due to the spread of Dragon Cults which worshiped Dragons, and the differing philosophies regarding governance that the dragons had. Essentially, delusions of godhood fueled a massive war.

The Conflict resulted in dragons nearly becoming extinct. In that time Dragons had ruled mankind, but when the Dragonic Dynasties fell mankind began to rule himself. Early rules in this era had been great generals of the war; with Ethanal Zid being among them. Ethanal was the first Sorcerer King of Zid and had spared an egg of a Chromatic dragon. He raised the hatchling as a member of his household. That dragon was Elenor.

I think I digressed- to the points I was leading up to. We can have that the Dragon Wars gave rise to motorized flight as entire air wings fought alongside their dragonic monarchs against rival dragons. This (unfortunately for Dragons) ended Dragonic Air Superiority.

By the conflict's end Dragons where both uncommon, nationless, fragmented, and distrusted. It's stated that after the Dragon Wars the remaining Dragonic leaders signed a treaty promising never to war with one another again for the sake of the species.

The most prominent signer of this document is the Dragon King of Colm. His nation is the only part of the world where Goblins and man live as equals (with in a militaristic power structure as the Dragon King uses his military to rule the realm. They guard huge fields where the people work on a schedule, live on land he owns- he's a really bad dictator who is living as the Chromatic Dragons believed governance should be).

He has been at odds with the nation of Alterra, and if he where to launch a full invasion-

We'd need Colm to be larger state for him to be the only threat, other wise he'd need an alliance, a group of powers by his side to be of much of a threat- I think, what are your thoughts concerning a war started by the Dragon King of Colm?

Old data, we'll easily be able to make Colm a worthy threat.

Would be interesting, I thought we were saving him for the second global conflict though where one evil empire tries to annex all the nations around it before attempting to take over the world?

I was kind of hoping for something that was really an over escalated minor issue. That is what makes WWI so interesting, it was the first major global conflict and it all kicked off because one guy annexed a country and then got assassinated - as far as I remember it anyway. It was a small issue that then for some reason grew to involve the entire planet. Kind of makes it a bit laughable in the end.

I unfortunately have only four minutes remaining before I'm booted off the system. Ya'll should have plenty of time to discuss the causes of the conflict. I found a list of other nations in Zid; and feel free to invent some other. This list should help.

List

The Halfling Confederacy, Holdere- those are some minor nations.

[Everhall]

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[Galnius]

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I forgot we even had a sign up...

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

Alrighty, so, to kick things off on Elyria (Harb, I know you said Eylia and Elyia, but I assume you meant Elyria?)

We have one Pangaea continent, smack dab in the center of it the Great Spirit, God, Mighty One, etc. puts the first two humans. First it creates woman in its image and then seeing woman lonely creates man from woman's rib. They are given a place of paradise and ease to live provided they live within Her rules. Knowing that they were told not to drink from the water of a particular spring the fallen angel turned dark fiend Lillian took the form of a winged serpent and whispered into man's ear that he would be on the same level as his creator should he drink of the fountain. Thus man fell for the deception and drank of the fountain, using his new found knowledge he convinced woman to drink of the fountain; knowing now of their wrong doing the two sought to hide from their creator in a nearby cave.

The All Knowing called down to the sinful and informed them of their wrong doings. As punishment their paradise was taken and for the rest of their days they would know struggle for survival. Thus for their treachery the pair was expelled from the garden of paradise and to ensure man would no more set foot in it the Creator placed armed cherubs to guard it.

Man would go on for some time until man once more created a horrendous invention, displeased with the favoritism showed by the Creator towards her sister Aria slayed her sibling Heather. Mortified at the death of Heather the Creator brought into being scaled creatures with mighty wings and thick hide that controlled the elements with their breath. This gave rise to lands controlled by the dragons She had made.

For time there was peace, the lands prospered under the guidance of the wise caretakers until the calm before the storm broke. In a whirlwind of fire and destruction a war broke out between the tribes of Garethel and Hendrael as they fought for farmland to gain wealth and power. In the end blood lay in rivers upon the earth and the Creator once more wept at the loss of life; this time her hatred turned towards the magnificent creatures she had put in charge of man. In righteous anger she stripped the dragons of their vast knowledge and condemned them to walk the planet as mere animals like the rest. Their tribes vanished and soon man ruled himself. The secrets of metallurgy became further advanced from bronze to iron and where as man had once been divided by their Creator into tribes now they held one single nation, a nation of corruption and crime as it was, and in spite of the Almighty they would build a mighty pyramid to reach Her very face in proof that man no longer would rely on Her for guidance.

In fury the Creator struck down the pyramid and broke the very continent to pieces, scattering the nation of Iryieth across the world, their white eyes that once were a symbol of their divine creation scattered among the entire spectrum of light and their language broken into many vast tongues that now spanned the globe.

Seeking to save humanity from itself and the wrongs it had created the Creator sent her daughter unto man that She may act as a teacher and ultimately a martyr for their salvation.

That should have us at the start of the AD's sorry it is barebones; I was being rushed at the time by folks who needed me to hitch a ride with them to get some things done for the day. I will be unavailable for I would say 12 hours here in about 8 hours. 12 is my worst case, I am hoping for 10 or less, depends on how stupid people are. I will be in a vehicle though, granted I might have a bunch of crap on me - practically a garuntee as I do love my relics #world'sbestarchaologist - so my phone will most likely be unreliable as my arms may not have room to operate it and signal will most likely suck. If my math is right I should be out of commission for the hours of 07:00 EST to 19:00 EST at the worst, hoping to be back up by 17:00 EST though. Plus side? It was pretty worth it found three books that are older than all of us combined! ^.^ Hope the timeline suggestion didn't suck too bad, feel free to make suggestions to tweak it; love ya'll and see ya on the flip side.

[Kylantha]

I love dragons.

Drawing designs for them are a lot of fun.

What kinds of dragons are there?

[Altito Asmoro]

I love dragons.

Drawing designs for them are a lot of fun.

What kinds of dragons are there?

Elemental dragons, and then there are dragons from Yu Gi Oh (Dragon made from blocks of metal, mechanical dragon, blue eyes dragon, skull dragon, red eyes dragon).

[Kylantha]

I can't seem to view the previous posts properly... :/

So, there will be an RP with dragons?

I like drawing dragons.

[Rynagria]

Hi Ky and Gal Great to see you both!

We've been discussing an RP, and I shall continue to do so by addressing some comments by Ryn and Av.

I have read Av's suggestions, and Ryn's insight (pointing out that the Dragons of Zid are sentient beings who have been known to command nations).

Having reviewed Av's comments on the tech, I think I've got it;

In old Zid we had The Dragon Wars. The Dragon Wars began as a feud between Chromatic and Metallic dragons; or so it's typically seen (as with all conflicts their where outliners on either side who didn't fit the image). The Conflict came about due to the spread of Dragon Cults which worshiped Dragons, and the differing philosophies regarding governance that the dragons had. Essentially, delusions of godhood fueled a massive war.

The Conflict resulted in dragons nearly becoming extinct. In that time Dragons had ruled mankind, but when the Dragonic Dynasties fell mankind began to rule himself. Early rules in this era had been great generals of the war; with Ethanal Zid being among them. Ethanal was the first Sorcerer King of Zid and had spared an egg of a Chromatic dragon. He raised the hatchling as a member of his household. That dragon was Elenor.

I think I digressed- to the points I was leading up to. We can have that the Dragon Wars gave rise to motorized flight as entire air wings fought alongside their dragonic monarchs against rival dragons. This (unfortunately for Dragons) ended Dragonic Air Superiority.

By the conflict's end Dragons where both uncommon, nationless, fragmented, and distrusted. It's stated that after the Dragon Wars the remaining Dragonic leaders signed a treaty promising never to war with one another again for the sake of the species.

The most prominent signer of this document is the Dragon King of Colm. His nation is the only part of the world where Goblins and man live as equals (with in a militaristic power structure as the Dragon King uses his military to rule the realm. They guard huge fields where the people work on a schedule, live on land he owns- he's a really bad dictator who is living as the Chromatic Dragons believed governance should be).

He has been at odds with the nation of Alterra, and if he where to launch a full invasion-

We'd need Colm to be larger state for him to be the only threat, other wise he'd need an alliance, a group of powers by his side to be of much of a threat- I think, what are your thoughts concerning a war started by the Dragon King of Colm?

Old data, we'll easily be able to make Colm a worthy threat.

My only concern is I'm confused as to what directions World of Zid from what I originally was exposed to. It maybe partially because of fear the by bringing in late 19th century and early 20th century technology, it makes me think that magic becomes mostly irrelevant, and in turn the character I wanted to bring back irrelevant as well. Then there's also seeing the Dragon of Colm as being a "good" guy in the world of Zid, well probably due to my character having ties with them.

I simply like the more fantasy setting.

By all means though, Avalon's idea is well thought out and great. Just not my cup of tea.

I can't seem to view the previous posts properly... :/

So, there will be an RP with dragons?

I like drawing dragons.

Harb is planning to revive World of Zid.

[Saleon]

Old data, we'll easily be able to make Colm a worthy threat.

My only concern is I'm confused as to what directions World of Zid from what I originally was exposed to. It maybe partially because of fear the by bringing in late 19th century and early 20th century technology, it makes me think that magic becomes mostly irrelevant, and in turn the character I wanted to bring back irrelevant as well. Then there's also seeing the Dragon of Colm as being a "good" guy in the world of Zid, well probably due to my character having ties with them.

I simply like the more fantasy setting.

By all means though, Avalon's idea is well thought out and great. Just not my cup of tea..

Yeah. I think the best way to circumvent that concern is maybe to make sure that magic plays a central part of the tech. The human batteries, for example, show magic melding with tech. Weapons powered by magic, or technology being used as a catalyst. Either way, as long as magic is powerful enough it can prove effective.

[Rynagria]

My only concern is I'm confused as to what directions World of Zid from what I originally was exposed to. It maybe partially because of fear the by bringing in late 19th century and early 20th century technology, it makes me think that magic becomes mostly irrelevant, and in turn the character I wanted to bring back irrelevant as well. Then there's also seeing the Dragon of Colm as being a "good" guy in the world of Zid, well probably due to my character having ties with them.

I simply like the more fantasy setting.

By all means though, Avalon's idea is well thought out and great. Just not my cup of tea..

Yeah. I think the best way to circumvent that concern is maybe to make sure that magic plays a central part of the tech. The human batteries, for example, show magic melding with tech. Weapons powered by magic, or technology being used as a catalyst. Either way, as long as magic is powerful enough it can prove effective.

I suppose.

It would be the end of those physical clashes of forces.

[Harbertia]

hmm...

While I respect Avalon's writing I do agree with Ryn in that it's just not my cup of tea. I did however, during my absnce attempt to make Zid more 'real worldly'- actually wrote a large document on the different faiths; Righteous, Traditional, and Disapationist.

However I found myself calling it 'too mundane'. As in, too much like our world to be fantastic. Yes it had magic but the feel was deeply rooted in biblical lore to the extent of Zid becoming less of an escape and more of an encloser.

[Harbertia]

I will however admit that I never did get into detail concerning the origin of the Elyria, which till recently has been known as the World of Zid. The closest I got was the writings of a Dragon Cult. Elenor was the first named character in the lore, so much of what was written of the setting centered around her, Dragons, and Zid.

In it Dragons where created to mentor, and lead man back into the light of the Creator. But their position gave way to their own fall from grace as Dragons began to accept worship, and praise- becoming swept up in the power they held over their lesser. In this way Dragons turned from their purpose, leading to the era of Dragon Cults, and Dragonic Empires which where crumbled by their own folly giving rise to nations ruled by men.

Prior to the era of Dragons Giants had ruled the world, but the Giants have become rare thanks to the Dragons who opposed them. They exist but not much has been said about them as they dwell in secluded strongholds away from those they once ruled.

But I digress.

[Harbertia]

Holdere is a semi-autonomous region of Alterra which is located close to the Kingdom of Colm. It is home to the Huldir, half-trolls. If Colm where to invade that region, the nation would also be attacking Alterra. The Halfling Confederacy, seeing it's self as apart from most conflict would have to deal with the pressure of a potentially hostile force occupying it's neighbor (it might be persuaded to assist Alterra. Alterra in response calls upon Zid for assistance, but Elenor refuses.

Alternatively we could have that the Kingdom of Alterra attempts to fully annex Holdere causing Colm to invade under the pretext of defending Holdere's independence (the Trolls of the mountain are likely to have relations with the Kingdom of Colm, and it's people as they are right next to one another.

Details on the Annexation may allow us to create a WWI concept. Avalon may be willing to provide some context to that scenario.

[Rynagria]

Holdere is a semi-autonomous region of Alterra which is located close to the Kingdom of Colm. It is home to the Huldir, half-trolls. If Colm where to invade that region, the nation would also be attacking Alterra. The Halfling Confederacy, seeing it's self as apart from most conflict would have to deal with the pressure of a potentially hostile force occupying it's neighbor (it might be persuaded to assist Alterra. Alterra in response calls upon Zid for assistance, but Elenor refuses.

Alternatively we could have that the Kingdom of Alterra attempts to fully annex Holdere causing Colm to invade under the pretext of defending Holdere's independence (the Trolls of the mountain are likely to have relations with the Kingdom of Colm, and it's people as they are right next to one another.

Details on the Annexation may allow us to create a WWI concept. Avalon may be willing to provide some context to that scenario.

The thing about WWI was the fact that it got so large because of the web of alliances all throughout the continent of Europe, as long as the conflict has that element, it would still be a WWI-esque fight. Trench Warfare can relatively be incorporated easily, just not with the massive amounts of machine guns, although a rapid fire firearm wouldn't be far fetched.

[Harbertia]

I have decided that while I can pop in from time to time, I am in no condition to host an RP.

Thus I'd like to be of assistance to one who is hosting an RP rather then host my own. No reason to again break the bridge, and leave all of you.

I like Dragons, Inhuman humanoid life, RPs focused on character interaction, adventures, hopeful post apocalyptic worlds, technophobia, androids (yeah I know a bit of a contradiction but think of it as a Pinoccio thing and it makes sense as I've been poor in developing social algorithms of my own), Golems, grass lands, European Romanticism, and fables.

I apologize for wasting effort but do not regret the socialization we have had concerning Zid

With that said, I will reiterate that I am enjoying this conversation even while I doubt it will get anywhere unless a home internet connection is achieved. Thus I will respond to the following

Holdere is a semi-autonomous region of Alterra which is located close to the Kingdom of Colm. It is home to the Huldir, half-trolls. If Colm where to invade that region, the nation would also be attacking Alterra. The Halfling Confederacy, seeing it's self as apart from most conflict would have to deal with the pressure of a potentially hostile force occupying it's neighbor (it might be persuaded to assist Alterra. Alterra in response calls upon Zid for assistance, but Elenor refuses.

Alternatively we could have that the Kingdom of Alterra attempts to fully annex Holdere causing Colm to invade under the pretext of defending Holdere's independence (the Trolls of the mountain are likely to have relations with the Kingdom of Colm, and it's people as they are right next to one another.

Details on the Annexation may allow us to create a WWI concept. Avalon may be willing to provide some context to that scenario.

The thing about WWI was the fact that it got so large because of the web of alliances all throughout the continent of Europe, as long as the conflict has that element, it would still be a WWI-esque fight. Trench Warfare can relatively be incorporated easily, just not with the massive amounts of machine guns, although a rapid fire firearm wouldn't be far fetched.

This brings to my mind something I had not considered; If Elenor can't aid Alterra because of the Treaty that ended the Dragon Wars, and seeing how Alterra hasn't been the most friendly of neighbors, and is in discord- the only viable option I can see for Elenor is to ally with the Dragon of Colm. Alterra's time of unity has been coming to an end (the peasant rebellions and backstabbing politics of the aristocracy are signs of that). Thus it could be said that her rule would be better for them then the Dragon of Colms rule, or even their own people (seeing how the peasants are ill educated (and thus unfit to govern themselves), and the aristocracy foul).

Edit: Or something :/

[Everhall]

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[Holy Empire of Avalon]

If the small nation, Colm I believe you named it?, had great allies then it would be close to the WWI setting we desire. Colm could be our Serbia, it gets invaded and no one does anything, but then when the Colm natives assassinate the leader of their oppressor the world is thrown into a battle of alliances as the powder keg ignites. I have no problem with dragons still being around in their natural state, my issue is that I use "dumb" dragons in my SkyGuard, not really dumb just not the actual sentient ones you all know. So we would have to make up a reason for the non-sentient dragons to exist; mine was the Great Lady cursing them for their folly and thus all the original dragons' descendants are regular beasts.

As far as start year goes, should we start in the "1700's" time or go straight for the WWI scenario? I am good for either, but in the latter I will need a good chunk of time for back story.

[Harbertia]

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PF should come around eventually to place you on the member list. Since you are here, why not tell us a bit more about your self, and maybe comment on some discussions. Let us get an idea of how it will be to RP along side you.

I go by Harbertia (almost introduce myself with my real name which would have been a mistake on my part). We share an interest in Medieval Fantasy, Fallout, and Elder Scrolls. When I had reliable internet I use to host RPs set in The Gamma World. A Post Apocalyptic Science Fantasy setting full of mutant powers, monarchies, republics, principalities, empires, ancient tech, and androids.

[Harbertia]

If the small nation, Colm I believe you named it?, had great allies then it would be close to the WWI setting we desire. Colm could be our Serbia, it gets invaded and no one does anything, but then when the Colm natives assassinate the leader of their oppressor the world is thrown into a battle of alliances as the powder keg ignites. I have no problem with dragons still being around in their natural state, my issue is that I use "dumb" dragons in my SkyGuard, not really dumb just not the actual sentient ones you all know. So we would have to make up a reason for the non-sentient dragons to exist; mine was the Great Lady cursing them for their folly and thus all the original dragons' descendants are regular beasts.

As far as start year goes, should we start in the "1700's" time or go straight for the WWI scenario? I am good for either, but in the latter I will need a good chunk of time for back story.

hahahah XD OH! I smile because Elyria (the World of Zid) has Wyverns. They are lesser dragons, animals, beasts. Wyvern riders are presant in Alterra. Aside from intellect, and the fact that Wyvern have a singing tail, size is another difference between them and Dragons. Wyverns never reaching palace size, and only ever reaching a size acceptable for riding. The smaller ones are even kept by mages.

Lots of various species of Wyvern exist and I've never really gotten into detail as I like the fact that a Wyvern can be personalized to fit the character.