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Postby Shadowwell » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:10 am

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What if the characters really are fictional but are incarnated into the real world - reacting to learning that they and everything they know is a fiction imagined by real world human? Maybe even discovering their own fandom and the mixed bag of that experience.

Even Salvia Clement from the OM&T RP series could have a version incarnated into the base world - a copy not based on any particular past self but on how she is popularly perceived. Alternatively she could be based off how a specific real person personally regards her.

We could have them linked to some human Fate style as the characters duke it out in a battle royale and investigate the mysterious force that blurs the line between fantasy and reality that is responsible for their arrival.

We could have different versions of the same fictional characters - like Adam West Batman meeting Christian Bale Batman.

And they'd all have their special abilities that they're known for - and maybe the more popular they are the harder they're to kill (Wolf Among Us).



That could be interesting, might make an adaptation of a Fictional Reality for that concept.


Back onto this, (first time i have been able to get on for any period of time since thanksgiving).

While the any fictional character in modern times concept could be interesting that is a bit more limiting than what I had In mind. The literary descendants concept would allow an rper to create unique characters taking traits from established characters but still largely original. I feel that the any fictional character thing could stifle creativity, while a vast array of characters could be thought up, conflicts could still arise and I feel it could get chaotic. It is still an intriguing idea to think about however.

Additionally i created a crude premise for the verse.

Throughout Earth's history there have been many fine works of literature, from short poems to epics thousands of pages in lengths. They possess thrilling prose and intriguing characters which captivate ones attention. The thing is, some of the events depicted within the stories are true. Not the fantastical myths and legends, at least not as we know them, but the more realistic stories.

The characters within some well known stories once existed. The most well known of these real literary characters is Sherlock Holmes himself, whose tales were recorded and told by Dr John Watson. Holmes and Watson did exist, as did the majority of the characters shown. They were not the only ones to exist, Robin Hood did, as did the less well known Belgian detectivs Hercule Poirot whom shared a rivalry with Holmes.

Even the characters of Treasure Island were real, for the most part. Just as these central figures lived, breathed, their descendants have done the same. Many follow the paths paved by their famous ancestors.

These Literary Descendants can be found all over the world, though most stay where their families are known. For example the Holmes' operate out of London, but many travel the world in high demand. Those related to Jim Hawkins have a penchant for both treasure hunting and piracy. Some Descendants follow in their ancestors footsteps, others try to forge their own paths. Some are judged by their ancestors actions, others are lauded for them.
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Postby Rynagria » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:02 am

Shadowwell wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:

That could be interesting, might make an adaptation of a Fictional Reality for that concept.


Back onto this, (first time i have been able to get on for any period of time since thanksgiving).

While the any fictional character in modern times concept could be interesting that is a bit more limiting than what I had In mind. The literary descendants concept would allow an rper to create unique characters taking traits from established characters but still largely original. I feel that the any fictional character thing could stifle creativity, while a vast array of characters could be thought up, conflicts could still arise and I feel it could get chaotic. It is still an intriguing idea to think about however.

Additionally i created a crude premise for the verse.

Throughout Earth's history there have been many fine works of literature, from short poems to epics thousands of pages in lengths. They possess thrilling prose and intriguing characters which captivate ones attention. The thing is, some of the events depicted within the stories are true. Not the fantastical myths and legends, at least not as we know them, but the more realistic stories.

The characters within some well known stories once existed. The most well known of these real literary characters is Sherlock Holmes himself, whose tales were recorded and told by Dr John Watson. Holmes and Watson did exist, as did the majority of the characters shown. They were not the only ones to exist, Robin Hood did, as did the less well known Belgian detectivs Hercule Poirot whom shared a rivalry with Holmes.

Even the characters of Treasure Island were real, for the most part. Just as these central figures lived, breathed, their descendants have done the same. Many follow the paths paved by their famous ancestors.

These Literary Descendants can be found all over the world, though most stay where their families are known. For example the Holmes' operate out of London, but many travel the world in high demand. Those related to Jim Hawkins have a penchant for both treasure hunting and piracy. Some Descendants follow in their ancestors footsteps, others try to forge their own paths. Some are judged by their ancestors actions, others are lauded for them.

I think Jariri was alluding to a more Re:Creators feeling of characters coming to being in the real world.

For those that don’t know what I’m talking about, Re:Creators is an anime that has a premise of some writers characters that appear in the real world. With their abilities that they care with. They meet up with their writers and serious business ensues as some of them learning that fact that they live in a fictional world to simply going along and make their own goals for the world they hve been brought too.
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Postby New Tussia » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:07 am

S.T.A.L.K.E.R RP story so far:

The date is April 22nd, 2011. S.T.A.L.K.E.Rs are common throughout the “Zone”. One Stalker, Marakov Yuriev, is one of the first non-military to enter “The Zone”. He knows where all the artifacts are and he is thinking of retiring; but, not after collecting a bunch of artifacts and being the first to fully map out the zone. He also keeps a journal of the zone he uses to list artifacts, anomalies, and mutants. He is one of the most well known Stalkers and is going to hire other Stalkers to help him complete his journal; and, he will publish the journal when he retires from “The Zone”.

That is where the other stalkers (OOC: YOU!) come in. He used to recruit stalkers for his missions but stopped due to a backstabbing. But, a trip through almost the entirety of the zone is tough to do alone

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:06 am

Its been pretty fun RPing again.
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Postby Personal Freedom » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:42 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Its been pretty fun RPing again.

Returned to the old grind?
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Postby Harbertia » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:14 pm

Shadowwell wrote:
Shadowwell wrote:

That could be interesting, might make an adaptation of a Fictional Reality for that concept.


Back onto this, (first time i have been able to get on for any period of time since thanksgiving).

While the any fictional character in modern times concept could be interesting that is a bit more limiting than what I had In mind. The literary descendants concept would allow an rper to create unique characters taking traits from established characters but still largely original. I feel that the any fictional character thing could stifle creativity, while a vast array of characters could be thought up, conflicts could still arise and I feel it could get chaotic. It is still an intriguing idea to think about however.

Additionally i created a crude premise for the verse.

Throughout Earth's history there have been many fine works of literature, from short poems to epics thousands of pages in lengths. They possess thrilling prose and intriguing characters which captivate ones attention. The thing is, some of the events depicted within the stories are true. Not the fantastical myths and legends, at least not as we know them, but the more realistic stories.

The characters within some well known stories once existed. The most well known of these real literary characters is Sherlock Holmes himself, whose tales were recorded and told by Dr John Watson. Holmes and Watson did exist, as did the majority of the characters shown. They were not the only ones to exist, Robin Hood did, as did the less well known Belgian detectivs Hercule Poirot whom shared a rivalry with Holmes.

Even the characters of Treasure Island were real, for the most part. Just as these central figures lived, breathed, their descendants have done the same. Many follow the paths paved by their famous ancestors.

These Literary Descendants can be found all over the world, though most stay where their families are known. For example the Holmes' operate out of London, but many travel the world in high demand. Those related to Jim Hawkins have a penchant for both treasure hunting and piracy. Some Descendants follow in their ancestors footsteps, others try to forge their own paths. Some are judged by their ancestors actions, others are lauded for them.

:D As one who had 'Fairly Modern Grimm' going with bloodlines, this interests me.
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Postby Harbertia » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:14 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Its been pretty fun RPing again.

Great :D YEA! JARI JARI JARI
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:33 pm

Personal Freedom wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Its been pretty fun RPing again.

Returned to the old grind?


Indeed - a passable hobby at worst, fun and engaging collaborative storytelling at best, usually somewhere in between.

Harbertia wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Its been pretty fun RPing again.

Great :D YEA! JARI JARI JARI


Always fun working with you Harb. :)
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Postby Harbertia » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:49 pm

The last Star Fox game I played was on the Super Nintendo... but it was enough for me to enjoy the series.

Anyhow... I found out that in a game called 'Star Fox Adventures' the planet the character of Kyrstal comes from is named Sauria and has Dinosaurs.

...

...

But I also found out that Star Fox Adventures was originally going to be it's own game with two cat characters; Sabre and Kyrstal. Like the Neopet's game the player would control the characters in two different scenes wit the two eventually meeting up.

But when the people who owned Star Fox saw the work they where like "Hey can we merge your setting into our game and have Fox McCloud in this?"

Rare, which was designing the 'Dinosaur Planet' game where like 'Oh YES that's a great idea!"

And thus came Star Fox Adventures.

Which is why that game has some more fantastic elements then the Star Fox series is use to.

Interestingly it would seem that while Krystal was changed into a Fox (rather then a Cat) so the two could get together in a productive romance with a high chance of children- her story from the original project seems to have become a bit of her backstory - save in that rather then succeed she failed thus why she's the last of her people.

So it's an odd find I guess.
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Postby Harbertia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:37 pm

I've obviously waited too long to add to the Ruusan RP- one of my players started thier own RP for Star Wars- and I'm now a Co-Op to that.

No probs, good plan.

um... faction though so out of my norm.

Anyhow, I'm thinking of 'cycling' my Star Trek What Could Have Been setting- making it not a 'pre-retcon Star Trek' RP but rather a generic Star Trek RP.... idk- I could keep it as is but- it's not even what fans are into now- especially the Klingons. So much different.

Edit: maybe keep the 'nitch' setting and create a 'broad' setting to go along side it.... hmm.... idk.
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Postby Morrallia » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:33 am

First time I've been able to get on in weeks. Phone posting isn't as easy as it seems. Am I seeing some Titan planning here? Back at it again like Daniel?
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Postby Harbertia » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:36 am

Morrallia wrote:First time I've been able to get on in weeks. Phone posting isn't as easy as it seems. Am I seeing some Titan planning here? Back at it again like Daniel?

Yeah.
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Postby Harbertia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 am

The World of Zid may get another installment picking up on one of the story arcs unconcluded. Before Ulls left NS we had made plans regarding his character's story; one involving the conflict along the southern frontier.

While our conversation was to tell the story from the view point of the plains folk; the Goblins and Hyenafolk (Gnolls) (as both our characters where Gnolls wanting to combat the expansion of Kerkland) - Ulls has left NS.

Through conversation I've found two players willing to take part- from Kerkland's side. Thus Ulls character and my former Haahn will be two of the main antagonist of the RP.

Ull's character, now a Gnoll Death Knight and Haahn, a Necromancer as ever- will have organized most of the tribes for a war against Kerkland in retaliation for well- a lot of what's happened in the past. Player characters are Knights of the Horn during this war.

That's what we have thus far.
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Postby Morrallia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:38 am

Personal Freedom wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Its been pretty fun RPing again.

Returned to the old grind?

We gotta get you back in the saddle. You know how to rp from what I remember
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:42 pm

Harbertia wrote:The World of Zid may get another installment picking up on one of the story arcs unconcluded. Before Ulls left NS we had made plans regarding his character's story; one involving the conflict along the southern frontier.

While our conversation was to tell the story from the view point of the plains folk; the Goblins and Hyenafolk (Gnolls) (as both our characters where Gnolls wanting to combat the expansion of Kerkland) - Ulls has left NS.

Through conversation I've found two players willing to take part- from Kerkland's side. Thus Ulls character and my former Haahn will be two of the main antagonist of the RP.

Ull's character, now a Gnoll Death Knight and Haahn, a Necromancer as ever- will have organized most of the tribes for a war against Kerkland in retaliation for well- a lot of what's happened in the past. Player characters are Knights of the Horn during this war.

That's what we have thus far.


I would like join this (got an itch for high fantasy after the horror of Stories) but would prefer to read up on the lore of Zid beforehand - is it on the Titans wiki?
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Postby Harbertia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:35 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Harbertia wrote:The World of Zid may get another installment picking up on one of the story arcs unconcluded. Before Ulls left NS we had made plans regarding his character's story; one involving the conflict along the southern frontier.

While our conversation was to tell the story from the view point of the plains folk; the Goblins and Hyenafolk (Gnolls) (as both our characters where Gnolls wanting to combat the expansion of Kerkland) - Ulls has left NS.

Through conversation I've found two players willing to take part- from Kerkland's side. Thus Ulls character and my former Haahn will be two of the main antagonist of the RP.

Ull's character, now a Gnoll Death Knight and Haahn, a Necromancer as ever- will have organized most of the tribes for a war against Kerkland in retaliation for well- a lot of what's happened in the past. Player characters are Knights of the Horn during this war.

That's what we have thus far.


I would like join this (got an itch for high fantasy after the horror of Stories) but would prefer to read up on the lore of Zid beforehand - is it on the Titans wiki?

I have been gradually transporting it from a thread here on NS to the group Wiki :)

Though what I've been transporting hasn't really been the deepest of history- more patches here and there. You may recall Elenor- I've started to get an article on her going but it's not complete yet. I for one think y'd make a great Wizard. Part of me still wants to revisit Elenor's past- the story of her and Kalcipher but I haven't found anyone willing to play the role of the Sorcerer King who sought to unit Humanity under a Single Empire. I for one can't play his character as he, well- eh...

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He's the 'Charming Devil' character- young, sly, cunning, calculating, and most of all interested in his own goals. He's a man of ambition, talented despite his age, and - eh... like It's hard for me to communicate how while certainly evil he's the sadiisticly evil type who actually has the skill to back up his word.

A figure now legend in the world that I just can't give life to as a character.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:39 pm

Harbertia wrote:
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I would like join this (got an itch for high fantasy after the horror of Stories) but would prefer to read up on the lore of Zid beforehand - is it on the Titans wiki?

I have been gradually transporting it from a thread here on NS to the group Wiki :)

Though what I've been transporting hasn't really been the deepest of history- more patches here and there. You may recall Elenor- I've started to get an article on her going but it's not complete yet. I for one think y'd make a great Wizard. Part of me still wants to revisit Elenor's past- the story of her and Kalcipher but I haven't found anyone willing to play the role of the Sorcerer King who sought to unit Humanity under a Single Empire. I for one can't play his character as he, well- eh...

Image


He's the 'Charming Devil' character- young, sly, cunning, calculating, and most of all interested in his own goals. He's a man of ambition, talented despite his age, and - eh... like It's hard for me to communicate how while certainly evil he's the sadiisticly evil type who actually has the skill to back up his word.

A figure now legend in the world that I just can't give life to as a character.


I would be interested in bringing the Sorcerer King to life - seems like a fun character to play.

But looking at Elenor's page I see no mention of Kalcifer but rather a 'Ethanial Zid' the first King of Zid who hatched her.

She was born in the aftermath of the Dragon Wars which ended the so-called 'Dragon Age'. Prior to this there was a Dragonic Empire that I assume spanned significant regions of the known world. I am somewhat confused - there was a Dragon King yet the war caused the deaths of the Dragons who ruled the world (not dragon riders but dragons themselves?) - was the old King a dragon himself or a human that controlled a dragon? Were his successors human or dragon?

The war for succession seems to have at some point transitioned into a religious civil war between Traditionalists and Dragon Cults - which indicate it was a conflict between humans over dragons. And it ended with a treaty that forbade dragons from directly fighting each other.

I see another page about an alternate dimension inhabited by Lunar Elves that brought up the Elven Age - where does that fit with the Dragon Age?
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Postby Harbertia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:21 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Harbertia wrote:I have been gradually transporting it from a thread here on NS to the group Wiki :)

Though what I've been transporting hasn't really been the deepest of history- more patches here and there. You may recall Elenor- I've started to get an article on her going but it's not complete yet. I for one think y'd make a great Wizard. Part of me still wants to revisit Elenor's past- the story of her and Kalcipher but I haven't found anyone willing to play the role of the Sorcerer King who sought to unit Humanity under a Single Empire. I for one can't play his character as he, well- eh...



He's the 'Charming Devil' character- young, sly, cunning, calculating, and most of all interested in his own goals. He's a man of ambition, talented despite his age, and - eh... like It's hard for me to communicate how while certainly evil he's the sadiisticly evil type who actually has the skill to back up his word.

A figure now legend in the world that I just can't give life to as a character.


I would be interested in bringing the Sorcerer King to life - seems like a fun character to play.

But looking at Elenor's page I see no mention of Kalcifer but rather a 'Ethanial Zid' the first King of Zid who hatched her.

She was born in the aftermath of the Dragon Wars which ended the so-called 'Dragon Age'. Prior to this there was a Dragonic Empire that I assume spanned significant regions of the known world. I am somewhat confused - there was a Dragon King yet the war caused the deaths of the Dragons who ruled the world (not dragon riders but dragons themselves?) - was the old King a dragon himself or a human that controlled a dragon? Were his successors human or dragon?

The war for succession seems to have at some point transitioned into a religious civil war between Traditionalists and Dragon Cults - which indicate it was a conflict between humans over dragons. And it ended with a treaty that forbade dragons from directly fighting each other.

I see another page about an alternate dimension inhabited by Lunar Elves that brought up the Elven Age - where does that fit with the Dragon Age?

I welcome your questions and shall now respond.

First, I'd love for you to take on the role of Kalcipher.

Second, Ethanial Zid was the first King of Zid as you have stated. To understand the fall of the Dragonic Empire and how that ties into the Elven Age I shall begin-

The World of Zid is an ancient one even as the known world is small. Alterra, the largest Empire Empire in the known World keeps record in 'Ages' distinguished by which species was the most prominent. For example, The 1st Elven Age, the Dragon Age, and so forth with Alterra considering the present era to be the Human Age though I'm sure other nations have different means of recording time and naming the present era.

The Elves went into a decline before the Dragons, with some Dragons playing a role in that decline (such as the one known now only as The Dragon of Colm). The Elves no longer have a nation to speak of- their time of dominion over other species having ended.

The Dragon Age followed with Dragons cutting out territory from the former Elven Dominion in the after math of that Dominion's Civil War which began the great decline.

What happened to the Dragonic Empire- nay the entire Dragon species is difficult to imagine. Each Dragon had a 'self Sovereignty' and like the feudal system had loyalty to more powerful Dragons with the top being the Dragon King. Perhaps it was vast population- perhaps it was truely the idological conflict- but the Dragons committed Regicide upon each other resulting in numerous lordless lands from which new states rose. The Empire shrank, and the last of the Dragons met in battle East of the Dragon of Colm's territory- it was here in this battle that a sudden realization fell upon them- though it wasn't - so sudden. One of them realized and spoke up before he was slain and as he was dying the truth of his words echoed through the mountain valley halting the battle- there in that field surrounded by countless dead followers where the last of their kind. The number was 12.... 12 Dragons. Of them only three where male.... The Dragons felt the sudden emptiness of the world- no longer where the skies full of beating Dragon Wings- no longer did they even really have an Empire- already the land was largely free of them... and here they where- nearly killing off their kind. The order of signing this treaty... in a bid to save their kind- is not known. But the Dragon of Colm was the last to sign- having been the least willing to end the battle.

Yes- the Dragons nearly killed themselves. Their war had left much of the world altered- deserts where their was forests- tundras where their had been deserts... and here the Known World is around where that battle happened. Most of the Dragons went north- but the Dragon of Colm remained- seeing himself as the Dragon King, and the others having found the war a waste- have allowed it. Of those 12 only two are known of- The Dragon of Colm and a Purple Dragoness who left for the north only after Ibok the Liberator, a Kobold, convicned her subjects to rise up- she was lazy, lathargic, disinterested- and just left in light of that.

Now it's just Elenor of Zid, A Book Wyrm in Alterra, and the Dragon of Colm in the known world. What lies north is not known to Alterra or really anyone the lore has spoken of- perhaps others Dragons did survive or perhaps those 10 have become highly inbred- we do not know- but regardless by Alterran Standards the Dragon Age has ended. Of the three in the known world only the Dragon of Colm, who has warred with Alterra often, is male. Of those three he's also the oldest with the other two having hatched after the Dragon Wars.

In a sense the Lunar Plane was for a group of Elves much as the North is for the remaining Dragons. A place to get away from the world of the other races.

Edit: To emphasis, the known world is so small not because it's a young world- but rather because the Dragon Wars where so devastating and so many races caught in the cross fire and conflict, that knowledge of the world that was is slim- few known was is North- South- East- or West of the known world. Much like when the Elven Dominion fell- records of what was is hard to find- and thus even I know not what is in either of those four directions.

For example the Gnolls are a recent discovery, knowledge of them to the South had been lost in the Dragon Wars. Nay even the origin of the South's Goblin (half elf half orc) population has been lost since the fall of the Elven Dominion.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:52 pm

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I would be interested in bringing the Sorcerer King to life - seems like a fun character to play.

But looking at Elenor's page I see no mention of Kalcifer but rather a 'Ethanial Zid' the first King of Zid who hatched her.

She was born in the aftermath of the Dragon Wars which ended the so-called 'Dragon Age'. Prior to this there was a Dragonic Empire that I assume spanned significant regions of the known world. I am somewhat confused - there was a Dragon King yet the war caused the deaths of the Dragons who ruled the world (not dragon riders but dragons themselves?) - was the old King a dragon himself or a human that controlled a dragon? Were his successors human or dragon?

The war for succession seems to have at some point transitioned into a religious civil war between Traditionalists and Dragon Cults - which indicate it was a conflict between humans over dragons. And it ended with a treaty that forbade dragons from directly fighting each other.

I see another page about an alternate dimension inhabited by Lunar Elves that brought up the Elven Age - where does that fit with the Dragon Age?

I welcome your questions and shall now respond.

First, I'd love for you to take on the role of Kalcipher.

Second, Ethanial Zid was the first King of Zid as you have stated. To understand the fall of the Dragonic Empire and how that ties into the Elven Age I shall begin-

The World of Zid is an ancient one even as the known world is small. Alterra, the largest Empire Empire in the known World keeps record in 'Ages' distinguished by which species was the most prominent. For example, The 1st Elven Age, the Dragon Age, and so forth with Alterra considering the present era to be the Human Age though I'm sure other nations have different means of recording time and naming the present era.

The Elves went into a decline before the Dragons, with some Dragons playing a role in that decline (such as the one known now only as The Dragon of Colm). The Elves no longer have a nation to speak of- their time of dominion over other species having ended.

The Dragon Age followed with Dragons cutting out territory from the former Elven Dominion in the after math of that Dominion's Civil War which began the great decline.

What happened to the Dragonic Empire- nay the entire Dragon species is difficult to imagine. Each Dragon had a 'self Sovereignty' and like the feudal system had loyalty to more powerful Dragons with the top being the Dragon King. Perhaps it was vast population- perhaps it was truely the idological conflict- but the Dragons committed Regicide upon each other resulting in numerous lordless lands from which new states rose. The Empire shrank, and the last of the Dragons met in battle East of the Dragon of Colm's territory- it was here in this battle that a sudden realization fell upon them- though it wasn't - so sudden. One of them realized and spoke up before he was slain and as he was dying the truth of his words echoed through the mountain valley halting the battle- there in that field surrounded by countless dead followers where the last of their kind. The number was 12.... 12 Dragons. Of them only three where male.... The Dragons felt the sudden emptiness of the world- no longer where the skies full of beating Dragon Wings- no longer did they even really have an Empire- already the land was largely free of them... and here they where- nearly killing off their kind. The order of signing this treaty... in a bid to save their kind- is not known. But the Dragon of Colm was the last to sign- having been the least willing to end the battle.

Yes- the Dragons nearly killed themselves. Their war had left much of the world altered- deserts where their was forests- tundras where their had been deserts... and here the Known World is around where that battle happened. Most of the Dragons went north- but the Dragon of Colm remained- seeing himself as the Dragon King, and the others having found the war a waste- have allowed it. Of those 12 only two are known of- The Dragon of Colm and a Purple Dragoness who left for the north only after Ibok the Liberator, a Kobold, convicned her subjects to rise up- she was lazy, lathargic, disinterested- and just left in light of that.

Now it's just Elenor of Zid, A Book Wyrm in Alterra, and the Dragon of Colm in the known world. What lies north is not known to Alterra or really anyone the lore has spoken of- perhaps others Dragons did survive or perhaps those 10 have become highly inbred- we do not know- but regardless by Alterran Standards the Dragon Age has ended. Of the three in the known world only the Dragon of Colm, who has warred with Alterra often, is male. Of those three he's also the oldest with the other two having hatched after the Dragon Wars.

In a sense the Lunar Plane was for a group of Elves much as the North is for the remaining Dragons. A place to get away from the world of the other races.

Edit: To emphasis, the known world is so small not because it's a young world- but rather because the Dragon Wars where so devastating and so many races caught in the cross fire and conflict, that knowledge of the world that was is slim- few known was is North- South- East- or West of the known world. Much like when the Elven Dominion fell- records of what was is hard to find- and thus even I know not what is in either of those four directions.

For example the Gnolls are a recent discovery, knowledge of them to the South had been lost in the Dragon Wars. Nay even the origin of the South's Goblin (half elf half orc) population has been lost since the fall of the Elven Dominion.


Very interesting, I would like to discuss the lore some further - did Alterra arise in the aftermath of the Dragon Wars? In its current state as an empire does it possess a ruling monarch?

Zid itself - a kingdom or a city state? What are its origins? Does it share a border with Alterra?

Was Kalcifer the Sorcerer King a descendant of Ethanial Zid who hatched Elenor?

What was the extent of Kalcifer's domain compared to how Zid originally was and what it is today under Elenor's rule?

Reading into the Knights of Elone it could be argued Kalcifer's fatal mistake was to make an enemy of them although the exact circumstances of his downfall are not revealed, making it interesting to imagine how his life and ambitions must have ended.

I see - yes a prequel explaining the fall of the Zid dynasty and Elenor's ascension to rule.
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Postby Harbertia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:12 pm

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Harbertia wrote:I welcome your questions and shall now respond.

First, I'd love for you to take on the role of Kalcipher.

Second, Ethanial Zid was the first King of Zid as you have stated. To understand the fall of the Dragonic Empire and how that ties into the Elven Age I shall begin-

The World of Zid is an ancient one even as the known world is small. Alterra, the largest Empire Empire in the known World keeps record in 'Ages' distinguished by which species was the most prominent. For example, The 1st Elven Age, the Dragon Age, and so forth with Alterra considering the present era to be the Human Age though I'm sure other nations have different means of recording time and naming the present era.

The Elves went into a decline before the Dragons, with some Dragons playing a role in that decline (such as the one known now only as The Dragon of Colm). The Elves no longer have a nation to speak of- their time of dominion over other species having ended.

The Dragon Age followed with Dragons cutting out territory from the former Elven Dominion in the after math of that Dominion's Civil War which began the great decline.

What happened to the Dragonic Empire- nay the entire Dragon species is difficult to imagine. Each Dragon had a 'self Sovereignty' and like the feudal system had loyalty to more powerful Dragons with the top being the Dragon King. Perhaps it was vast population- perhaps it was truely the idological conflict- but the Dragons committed Regicide upon each other resulting in numerous lordless lands from which new states rose. The Empire shrank, and the last of the Dragons met in battle East of the Dragon of Colm's territory- it was here in this battle that a sudden realization fell upon them- though it wasn't - so sudden. One of them realized and spoke up before he was slain and as he was dying the truth of his words echoed through the mountain valley halting the battle- there in that field surrounded by countless dead followers where the last of their kind. The number was 12.... 12 Dragons. Of them only three where male.... The Dragons felt the sudden emptiness of the world- no longer where the skies full of beating Dragon Wings- no longer did they even really have an Empire- already the land was largely free of them... and here they where- nearly killing off their kind. The order of signing this treaty... in a bid to save their kind- is not known. But the Dragon of Colm was the last to sign- having been the least willing to end the battle.

Yes- the Dragons nearly killed themselves. Their war had left much of the world altered- deserts where their was forests- tundras where their had been deserts... and here the Known World is around where that battle happened. Most of the Dragons went north- but the Dragon of Colm remained- seeing himself as the Dragon King, and the others having found the war a waste- have allowed it. Of those 12 only two are known of- The Dragon of Colm and a Purple Dragoness who left for the north only after Ibok the Liberator, a Kobold, convicned her subjects to rise up- she was lazy, lathargic, disinterested- and just left in light of that.

Now it's just Elenor of Zid, A Book Wyrm in Alterra, and the Dragon of Colm in the known world. What lies north is not known to Alterra or really anyone the lore has spoken of- perhaps others Dragons did survive or perhaps those 10 have become highly inbred- we do not know- but regardless by Alterran Standards the Dragon Age has ended. Of the three in the known world only the Dragon of Colm, who has warred with Alterra often, is male. Of those three he's also the oldest with the other two having hatched after the Dragon Wars.

In a sense the Lunar Plane was for a group of Elves much as the North is for the remaining Dragons. A place to get away from the world of the other races.

Edit: To emphasis, the known world is so small not because it's a young world- but rather because the Dragon Wars where so devastating and so many races caught in the cross fire and conflict, that knowledge of the world that was is slim- few known was is North- South- East- or West of the known world. Much like when the Elven Dominion fell- records of what was is hard to find- and thus even I know not what is in either of those four directions.

For example the Gnolls are a recent discovery, knowledge of them to the South had been lost in the Dragon Wars. Nay even the origin of the South's Goblin (half elf half orc) population has been lost since the fall of the Elven Dominion.


Very interesting, I would like to discuss the lore some further - did Alterra arise in the aftermath of the Dragon Wars? In its current state as an empire does it possess a ruling monarch?

Zid itself - a kingdom or a city state? What are its origins? Does it share a border with Alterra?

Was Kalcifer the Sorcerer King a descendant of Ethanial Zid who hatched Elenor?

What was the extent of Kalcifer's domain compared to how Zid originally was and what it is today under Elenor's rule?

Reading into the Knights of Elone it could be argued Kalcifer's fatal mistake was to make an enemy of them although the exact circumstances of his downfall are not revealed, making it interesting to imagine how his life and ambitions must have ended.

I see - yes a prequel explaining the fall of the Zid dynasty and Elenor's ascension to rule.

1 - Alterra did indeed rise after the Dragon Wars. It's location was the birth place of the Righteous Faith- it's self a splinter from the Traditionalist that arose out of the zeal against the Dragon Cultist. It does indeed have a ruling monarch currently though it's also lost a portion of it's territory due to an internal war. It's not the fist time it's lost territory (Kerkland to the south was once part of the Empire). The territory lost is the Grand Duchy of Elone.

2 - Zid is currently a City State- consisting solely of the city of Zid and the surrounding country side. it use to border Alterra but now borders the Grand Duchy of Elone- much as it once bordered the Kingdom of Elone in Kalcipher's days. The city it's self existed during the Dragon Empire, and despite misconception Ethanial's surname derives from the town's name- he was born there. Ethanial Zid was a General in the Dragon Wars and the details regarding how he came to possess the Egg that would become Elenor is - unknown. One of the many mysteries of the setting. Ethanial served as General for his Dragonic master but his master fell in battle some point before the final battle. Ethanial returned home when his master fell to find the town lawless and disorderly- and using his position as General and his men restored order to his homeland. It's form this Military Dictatorship that the Kingdom of Zid would form. Ethanial like others who had become Kings no longer served the Dragons. He himself, in Elenor's memory was a Traditionalist as such was how she was brought up. Traditionalists are a monotheistic faith with some Confucian elements.

3 - Kalcipher was indeed a decedent of Ethanial Zid. He like Ethanial was known as a Sorcerer King. It's not been stated how rapidly a Dragon grows but Elenor was of a ride able size during Kalcipher's campaigns. One of the other mysteries- in addition to how Ethanial came to possess the Egg, is why the leaders of the armies agreed to Elenor's peace. What is known is that the palace had been destroyed- and with it- the entire royal family... Elenor claimed Queenship on the grounds that- as she was adopted into the royal family she was - in her mind the only legitimate heir. She wasn't of the blood no, but that's the ground she used to declare her authority to call for a truce or a settlement of peace. Yet still as stated why this was agreed upon is- another mystery. Not sure why but a lot of the World of Zid is mystery.... actually I think I do know... I didn't come up with a why or how to either of those events.

4 - Kalcipher's domain included what is now the Grand Duchy of Elone, parts of what became Kerkland. There where other states but in allying with the then Kingdom of Alterra they have since become part of the Empire. Kalcipher sought to establish a Human Empire and while he didn't unite Humanity under his rule his conquest brought many of the petty Kingdoms together and in the aftermath of the war to unity under the Alterran Empire. The Empire's unity was further solidified when the Dragon of Colm invaded the young Empire in the war's aftermath. Elenor rules only a meager example- not even old Zid's full borders. Elenor rules the city and the country side but their where three townships that where never rebuilt which once comprised the Kingdom. They where destroyed when the Empire was pushed back to it's capital of Zid in Kalcipher's final days.

5 - Indeed, and I certainly hope to explore his life, and fall- in a prequel and for that I am happy to have you along for this. It can certainly be argued that had Kalcipher simply traveled south through what would become Kerkland (it had yet to be named such) rather then go through Elone regardless of being denied entry- well- that perhaps the war would have turned out differently.
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Sounds fun - collaborative fantasy worldbuilding. If successful with a dedicated player base we could perhaps fashion a saga like we once did for OM&T. I can see you writing well for Elenor and I would be quite interested to play around with the character of Kalcifer Zid myself, helping write a fictional history.

Yes I can see now - set in Zid's present timeline during Elenor's rule some random street dwellers bring up their views regarding being governed by a non-human entity that happens to be a dragon, speculating on how Ethaniel Zid obtained the egg centuries ago and what he planned for his descendants who raised the creature for generations before it reached maturity under the last Sorcerer King.

They question whether Kalcifer was a mad tyrant or a hero and then we could go back to those events (at least 100 years back maybe) and see his conquest, his motivations, how he indirectly created the Alterran Empire, his relationship with family, advisers and Elenor.

Do you think in terms of narrative the story should be told as if it were happening presently or can there be segments set in the actual 'present'?
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Postby Harbertia » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:43 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Sounds fun - collaborative fantasy worldbuilding. If successful with a dedicated player base we could perhaps fashion a saga like we once did for OM&T. I can see you writing well for Elenor and I would be quite interested to play around with the character of Kalcifer Zid myself, helping write a fictional history.

Yes I can see now - set in Zid's present timeline during Elenor's rule some random street dwellers bring up their views regarding being governed by a non-human entity that happens to be a dragon, speculating on how Ethaniel Zid obtained the egg centuries ago and what he planned for his descendants who raised the creature for generations before it reached maturity under the last Sorcerer King.

They question whether Kalcifer was a mad tyrant or a hero and then we could go back to those events (at least 100 years back maybe) and see his conquest, his motivations, how he indirectly created the Alterran Empire, his relationship with family, advisers and Elenor.

Do you think in terms of narrative the story should be told as if it were happening presently or can there be segments set in the actual 'present'?

I do like your proposed frame story though it would be more challenging to pull off. But certainly with that opening (of the people speculating) the frame story is doable. I do love the idea of writing this fictional histoyr cooperatively as a kind of world building seeing how the World of Zid's present was formed by the player characters. We can do the frame story or we can start in the past with the future known to use Players but presented as unknown- just like the present.

I - can tell my words are probably sounding confusing.

So to the point, I believe we should start writing. Either entirely in the time of Kalcipher or in the form of a frame story so we not only build the history but also do some world building for the city of Zid it's self.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:59 pm

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Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Sounds fun - collaborative fantasy worldbuilding. If successful with a dedicated player base we could perhaps fashion a saga like we once did for OM&T. I can see you writing well for Elenor and I would be quite interested to play around with the character of Kalcifer Zid myself, helping write a fictional history.

Yes I can see now - set in Zid's present timeline during Elenor's rule some random street dwellers bring up their views regarding being governed by a non-human entity that happens to be a dragon, speculating on how Ethaniel Zid obtained the egg centuries ago and what he planned for his descendants who raised the creature for generations before it reached maturity under the last Sorcerer King.

They question whether Kalcifer was a mad tyrant or a hero and then we could go back to those events (at least 100 years back maybe) and see his conquest, his motivations, how he indirectly created the Alterran Empire, his relationship with family, advisers and Elenor.

Do you think in terms of narrative the story should be told as if it were happening presently or can there be segments set in the actual 'present'?

I do like your proposed frame story though it would be more challenging to pull off. But certainly with that opening (of the people speculating) the frame story is doable. I do love the idea of writing this fictional histoyr cooperatively as a kind of world building seeing how the World of Zid's present was formed by the player characters. We can do the frame story or we can start in the past with the future known to use Players but presented as unknown- just like the present.

I - can tell my words are probably sounding confusing.

So to the point, I believe we should start writing. Either entirely in the time of Kalcipher or in the form of a frame story so we not only build the history but also do some world building for the city of Zid it's self.


I'm glad you're receptive to the idea - although it is still easier to play the past as if it were the present - but if the challenge is pulled off it could be quite interesting - for e.g. seeing two versions of Elenor or how Zid as a city has changed. Tried something similar in OM&T Dead Kings that initially had two storylines separated by around a decade but sharing the same setting - fun but the past events stagnated while the present moved at a better pace. Needed more pre-planning and initiative on my part but I was more invested in the present at that point.

So what you say should be the time gap between the present and Kalcifer's reign?
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Postby Harbertia » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:38 pm

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Harbertia wrote:I do like your proposed frame story though it would be more challenging to pull off. But certainly with that opening (of the people speculating) the frame story is doable. I do love the idea of writing this fictional histoyr cooperatively as a kind of world building seeing how the World of Zid's present was formed by the player characters. We can do the frame story or we can start in the past with the future known to use Players but presented as unknown- just like the present.

I - can tell my words are probably sounding confusing.

So to the point, I believe we should start writing. Either entirely in the time of Kalcipher or in the form of a frame story so we not only build the history but also do some world building for the city of Zid it's self.


I'm glad you're receptive to the idea - although it is still easier to play the past as if it were the present - but if the challenge is pulled off it could be quite interesting - for e.g. seeing two versions of Elenor or how Zid as a city has changed. Tried something similar in OM&T Dead Kings that initially had two storylines separated by around a decade but sharing the same setting - fun but the past events stagnated while the present moved at a better pace. Needed more pre-planning and initiative on my part but I was more invested in the present at that point.

So what you say should be the time gap between the present and Kalcifer's reign?

I'm pretty sure I had stated the time which had passed some time before on one of the RP threads.... let me see if I can find that.

oh my golly....

So I found - the first timeline I published (during the 2nd RP in the series)- which had Kalcipher's death being 959 years ago. With the additional years of other RPs in the series it's been over 1000 years (about 1079 years ago).

But- for the moment let's put that aside and instead focus on something that may be of more relevancy as that timeline was published before a general revision of the setting.

That being that the timeline also included Kalcipher's heritage.

Ethanial Zid married Elona

They had son named Stephan.

Stephan married Margretta.

They had Cord and Kalcipher (another example of pre-revision as the brother wasn't mentioned after that revision)

Stephan [as King] increases the wealth, and grandeur of Zid and rules in peace with Elenor who he calls Sister. However his rule only lasts 11 years. While much good happened the royal family it's self suffered great loses; Deen, Stephan's eldest, fell from his horse during a hunting trip, and tumbled to his death upon a stone. His second son, Cord, left to fight as a Mercenary for he did not agree with his father's strict pacifism, in battle, Cord was felled by an Archer's arrow. Stephan himself died from an illness at the age of 64, leaving his youngest, Kalcipher (28 years of age) to rule Zid.

We can consider this- something loose to build on but it shows that Kalcipher was Ethanials grandson- and likely knew Ethanial before the elder's passing. We can keep this as it still puts the nation as rather young.
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I'll let you determine the familial details regarding Kalcipher as we finally provide him the story that has thus far been spoken of but not told in the RPs- at least not in this detail.

For my part, here is my write up on Elenor leading up to the time of Kalcipher's reign. He can even be Ethanial's son if you so desire him to be or as far down the line as Great Great Great Grandson. Think of the story of Kalcipher Zid as wrapped up in myth- or rather the true details obscured by retelling over the years- thus see that as your key to free reign as we at last give the story in a full form.

I did find some clue that indicates something about the dragon's parents to the meaning of Elenor's name (pronounced Eleanor). Eleanor is a name in our world that derives from the french phrase 'alia Aenor' which means 'the other Aenor'. It was given to Eleanor of Aquitaine to distinguish her from her mother; Aenor. This I feel it's very likely, and thus should be used, that Eleanor was thus named to distinguish her from her mother who would have been known in the days of Ethanial Zid. It's also interesting that Eleanora means 'of the other Aenor' and was used to distinguished the daughter of an Eleanor from the daughter of an Aenor- with Aenor having well- fallen out of use. Hardly does one find a woman by that name.

Elenor was hatched in the home of Ehtanial Zid, the first Sorcerer King of Zid- his face the first she ever laid eyes upon. Being a dragon their was no need to nurse her, only to provide her with some hunting skills to utilize her natural attributes. To this end Ethanial taught her to hunt the mice of the area and in time she moved to lizards, birds, and other small game. Though with that aspect instilled he moved to the important matters of language, magic, finances, and other skills needed of the higher class in the city of Zid. She fondly hold memories of resting upon Ethanials shoulder, listening to him read- most of her fond memories of him involves the study. For a while she was, upon the wife of Ethanial [Elona]'s request- kept distant from his children but when they where older and she as well- though still children by any standard- she was permitted to play with them. It took her a while to get use to their curious need to touch her- though Ethanial had made her aware of that possibility. Elona usually stepped in to check on things from time to time, and when unable due to business of state others where tasked with checking in or observing. It was during a long gap between observations, due to festival preparations, that an incident that has stuck in her mind occurred.

Elenor was with one of Ethania's sons. They had the luxury of wood blocks and carved soldiers- horses even- and he wanted to play castle under siege (with Zid as the setting). He insisted that Elenor be the attacker, and she didn't want to be. In typical childish manner neither side was willing to budge but both wanted to play and as the sons words became louder- Elenor felt anxiety that one of the servants would come in and she'd be blamed for something and thus angerly agreed only for- shortly into the game to have agitation come upon her as the lad insisted she wasn't being vicious enough. Between the nerves and agitation she decided to show him an error in his, what she interpreted to be, dislike of her patience- and swiping her claw upon the base of the wooden block fortress- causing it to crumble she then grasped his favorite wooden figure in her jaws and broke it.

Upon his reaction, and hearing the sounds of rushing feet she flew out the window and took to hiding feeling very afraid. She was eventually located and Ethanial came to her. He didn't want to come out of her hiding place to meet him so they talked at some distance. Elenor explained what happened form her perspective, telling him that she didn't like the idea of attacking Zid- and that the Prince had been adamant about the setting. She expressed her desire to be the defender, and how he insisted he was the defender- and the whole situation had made her uncomfortable. Ethanial explained that the Prince, as any of them should, desires to have the capacity to defend his home just as she does. That he's heard of Ethanials exploits during the Dragon Wars- he also explained that with the Dragon of Colm the Prince could very well have to defend the realm against a Dragon. Ethanial expressed further that Elenor didn't have to see the Dragon in the scenario as herself- she could have had a different role but she just was a little silent to that. After hearing Ethanial out she emerged head low, wondering if she'd even get to play with the Prince again.

Elona had mandated to Ethanial that Elenor wouldn't be able to for a few days, and instead would be restrained to the study which is where she dwelled before Elona had allowed her to play with Elona's children. During that time she spend much of it reading and reflecting. When she did get to play with the Prince again, the fist thing she wanted to do was revisit the game they had been playing- understanding why he had desired it. To her surprise, he understanding why she acted how she did, let her be the defender and himself some great giant. She remembers those days fondly as they matured and play moved from indoors to outdoors.

In time though she grew, people passed away- and eventually she wasn't able to play the same games as she was when smaller. Eventually becoming more like a nanny in some regard- sharing stories of the experiences of fathers and mothers before the current generation- and as Ethanial had done with her after the wooden castle incident she too sought to impart wisdom for the sake of a happy childhood.

Though she's now too large for those halls- she can walk the courtyard, enter the throne room- and a few other areas but even now the halls to the study are too small and she relies on servants to bring her books from time to time. The upper levels are no longer accessible to her gut the main halls are- shes aware that in time she'll be too large even for those place. For now however she can be saddled and ridden- an idea one of the former Princes had devised from study of the Dragon Wars. She doesn't specifically enjoy such practice but understands that she may need to defend Zid- and for the time such is the best function she can serve- allowing her to as she has been look after the decedents of Ethanial; aiding them not only at home but in war should the need arise.
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