The Titans (Portal to the Multiverse RP Group)

[Harbertia]

What's Going on in 'Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?'?

I've looked at the list of those unmasked in the series;

• Museum Curator + Museum Workers / Victim: Professor (didn't want a counterfeit painting discovered)
• Ship Captain + Wife (found stealing cargo more profitable then delivering it)
• Stage Magician
• Estate Caretaker
• Dog Show Contestant Owner (dognapping the competition)
• Estate Owner (x2)
• Actor (x2)
• Concerned Middle Class Woman opposed to Robotic Workers
• Puppeteer
• Hypnotist
• Egyptologist (to get a Mummy returned to Egypt)
• Career Criminal (x10)
• Owner of a Shipping Company (found stealing his cargo more profitable then delivering it)
• Farmer (wanting to scare people off of an old airforce base so he could sell it to the government which desired to reopen the base)
• Lawyers (x2)
• Resort Manager (to hide a smuggling ring)
• Chemist (wanted people to believe he had created a 'Jykle-Hyde formula)
• Art Dealer + Hired Help (art forgeries)
• Professor (wanted credit for another man's discovery)
• Bank Manager (to rob his own bank)
• Newspaperman (to poach pearls)
• TV Station Manager (to frame a rival station manager)
• Medical Doctor (to steal from a patient)
• Professor (to steal aircraft and sell them overseas)
• Assistant Professor (x2) (to steal oil/steal treasured relics)
• High School Graduate- twin sister of one of Daphne's friends
• Chief of Staff at a Tourist Trap (to hid a smuggling ring)
• Cafe' Owner (to hide smuggling Ring)

Most Common Motives
Smuggling, Illegal Mining/Poaching, Fencing stolen goods/selling faked goods (mostly overseas) ...

Conclusion
Domestic Economy is not good.

Also the well off are caught up in rivalries between them.

Daphne's Friends
A two of Daphne's friends appear in the series, each a wealthy girl like herself- each with a fortune to inherit. One's descended from a Witch and her twin sister tries to frame her for witchcraft; the other is victim of an uncle seeking the fortune.

Daphne's father finances the Mystery Gang and provided them with equipment like Sonar. What her father does- I do not know but she's well off for sure.

Prospect of robotic laborers likely to further impoverish society if realized. Yes the rich would continue to be well off but the rest of the nation would suffer.

Military/Police/Upper Class are doing well in this society as far as being financially sound. Military being expanded apparently after a downturn (the closing of a few based due to budget being unable to afford their upkeep)

Teens seem bliss to all this- they party a lot but there are few of them- people are not reproducing as often as they use to- the new generation is smaller then the previous generation- perhaps a symptom of the economy. The upside is that the next generation may have more finances due to the law of wealth- assuming the upper class let's the cash flow to them- so far none of them are employed- including the Mystery Gang- unless you count what they do as a job. Lots of graduates with no job relying on their parents for financial support.

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

Gonna be away from my computer for another day or so.

Plus side, I'm stuck next to some noisy ass sailors and marines who drink too much, shoot guns, and snore. Oh wait, no, that SUCKS!

Sorry for not being around this weekend like a figured, fellas.

[Harbertia]

I started looking into the old continuity of Scooby-Doo; found out that the gang did split up after 'Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?' and the adventures of various different characters where explored in a series that ran in the 1980s; after a long period of the show just focusing on Shaggy and Scoob.

Anyhow; the President of the United States;



Velma became an Assistant Researcher at NASA and invited Vlema to the White House due to ghosts of former US Presidents appearing. Shaggy and Scoob tagged along; Fred isn't in that episode.

Scooby's father is revealed to be German, and like Scooby can talk in a sense - but is also a tad more intelligent. Kind of makes me think of certain things regarding WWII. Unlike Scooby he actually has a job and wears a suit.


In that episode of that 80s show turned out a foreign ambassador and his wife where up to it hoping to make the president reconsider the space program.

Anyhow... still trying to look into what is going on in the world of Scooby-Doo.

Edit: The original Fred Jones became a Mystery Novelist which- well- makes sense in regards to the fact that it's something he stated he was interested in doing during 'Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?' and Daphne continued to run the Mystery Solving business with Shaggy and Scoob. It was just the three of them traveling in a van solving mysteries. I feel something has been left unsaid about that.

Edit: So that's what happend to the original characters; Velma worked for NASA during the space race of the 1980s, Fred became a Novelist, and Daphne continued to travel with shaggy and Scoob solving mysteries- though not as effectively I'd say as when she's with the rest of the gang or at least one of them.

[Harbertia]

Anyone up for reforging the Private RP?

Remaking it- taking what we have and remodeling it.

Most of the images seem to no longer work but- we can do something.

The setup still worked but it was so jumbled that one can think of it as a - fumble that just needs to be followed by a return.

World Building, aeh? AHE? YEAH?

Edit: The concept originally came for the world of Archie's Weird Mysteries. The aim I had was to create world that allowed for sitcoms, superheroes, science fiction, fantasy, etc in a setting that a bit like the world of Fallout is familiar enough to jump into but different enough that one discovers new things. For example, why one can't see it now Minnesota's state flag was different- a proposed flag from some years back. It was small things like that and a bit like Life is Strange in that while it's set in the present the world is of such a nature that you can't tell if your really in the modern day or the 70s/60s/50s. I'd love to get back into this AGAIN!

[Harbertia]

STARTING WB

UNITED LEAGUE OF NATIONS

• Equivalent: United Nations
• Established Post WW2.
• Has characteristics of the LoN and UN. It's meant to be a stand in for the UN but also a generic world assembly. This is for the same reason that NS has the WA; the UN doesn't like you to include it in fiction.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

• Puerto Rico as per the 2017 referendum is the 51st state.
• Not a ULN member.

Familiar but different is again what I'm going for. Even with the supernatural, superheroic, and superscience.

[Harbertia]

Within any setting on NS there is the chance to tell some rather dark narratives;



The challenge is knowing when to start those narratives. A player may be eager to get right into the grit- but with a new character one has to build a foundation for the audience to care. Otherwise your pushing a message but lacking impact with that message. Get a reader invested in a character and they are more likely to take a message personally and thus to reflect on it and integrate it into their own lives.

In this world; this Private RP world for the Titans RP group- I feel that we must be mindful of that as the setting remains one allowing for Drama and Casual conversation- a setting of magic, science, and more. The setting always has to stabilize to remain open yet we must not fear to shake it up. Certainly don't want things to grow stagnant but period of daily life are a must for both the players well being (mentally, me for example) and the readers- it's part of why fan fiction is common- people like seeing character have a break from the drama- it's part of why Teen Titans was so good- you had the hero stuff, you had the threatening the world evils, but you also had relateable issues that allowed us to see the characters on a human level.

Certainty one shouldn't drag on with descriptions, and background- one doesn't want to be like those books that have a sentence and then two pages of backstory that readers could have gathered from reading the book further. I for one like to learn though dialogue- through discovery- or even to guess= to theorize- it keeps me engaged in a setting.

Just something I wanted to say before continuing in revising the concept- I think I was being a little selfish back then so I hope to be more inclusive this time around- it's for all of us; but we do need to make sure the setting remains stable enough for the plots to be about - well- in a broad term- anything.

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

Within any setting on NS there is the chance to tell some rather dark narratives;

(Image)

The challenge is knowing when to start those narratives. A player may be eager to get right into the grit- but with a new character one has to build a foundation for the audience to care. Otherwise your pushing a message but lacking impact with that message. Get a reader invested in a character and they are more likely to take a message personally and thus to reflect on it and integrate it into their own lives.

In this world; this Private RP world for the Titans RP group- I feel that we must be mindful of that as the setting remains one allowing for Drama and Casual conversation- a setting of magic, science, and more. The setting always has to stabilize to remain open yet we must not fear to shake it up. Certainly don't want things to grow stagnant but period of daily life are a must for both the players well being (mentally, me for example) and the readers- it's part of why fan fiction is common- people like seeing character have a break from the drama- it's part of why Teen Titans was so good- you had the hero stuff, you had the threatening the world evils, but you also had relateable issues that allowed us to see the characters on a human level.

Certainty one shouldn't drag on with descriptions, and background- one doesn't want to be like those books that have a sentence and then two pages of backstory that readers could have gathered from reading the book further. I for one like to learn though dialogue- through discovery- or even to guess= to theorize- it keeps me engaged in a setting.

Just something I wanted to say before continuing in revising the concept- I think I was being a little selfish back then so I hope to be more inclusive this time around- it's for all of us; but we do need to make sure the setting remains stable enough for the plots to be about - well- in a broad term- anything.

An idea I can be on board with.

Realizing now I am pretty poor at team work, the new group is not exactly willing to let me lead them, and a bunch of loose cannons is a pretty bad idea.

We had a unique kind of order, if we could just stick to it.

[Harbertia]

Within any setting on NS there is the chance to tell some rather dark narratives;

(Image)

The challenge is knowing when to start those narratives. A player may be eager to get right into the grit- but with a new character one has to build a foundation for the audience to care. Otherwise your pushing a message but lacking impact with that message. Get a reader invested in a character and they are more likely to take a message personally and thus to reflect on it and integrate it into their own lives.

In this world; this Private RP world for the Titans RP group- I feel that we must be mindful of that as the setting remains one allowing for Drama and Casual conversation- a setting of magic, science, and more. The setting always has to stabilize to remain open yet we must not fear to shake it up. Certainly don't want things to grow stagnant but period of daily life are a must for both the players well being (mentally, me for example) and the readers- it's part of why fan fiction is common- people like seeing character have a break from the drama- it's part of why Teen Titans was so good- you had the hero stuff, you had the threatening the world evils, but you also had relateable issues that allowed us to see the characters on a human level.

Certainty one shouldn't drag on with descriptions, and background- one doesn't want to be like those books that have a sentence and then two pages of backstory that readers could have gathered from reading the book further. I for one like to learn though dialogue- through discovery- or even to guess= to theorize- it keeps me engaged in a setting.

Just something I wanted to say before continuing in revising the concept- I think I was being a little selfish back then so I hope to be more inclusive this time around- it's for all of us; but we do need to make sure the setting remains stable enough for the plots to be about - well- in a broad term- anything.

An idea I can be on board with.

Realizing now I am pretty poor at team work, the new group is not exactly willing to let me lead them, and a bunch of loose cannons is a pretty bad idea.

We had a unique kind of order, if we could just stick to it.

It's great to read those words I agree if we can stick with this unique kind of order- while avoiding a bunch of loose cannons and hahha working together- me giving in a little but not so much that I loose the joy I have in being involved- I do believe we'll do something amazing

I was a tad worried that this wasn't going to hit off But I suppose the flag thing really didn't deserve much comment I remember the private RP- I remember freaking out over a Valkyrie character ... but I also remember rolling with it- and something about a private school where I got stuck on- well- I didn't really have any ideas beyond the concept for it so I leapt into that monster school thing unprepared.

LET"s avoid that this time around ; launching a concept without some idea of how to utilize it

[Harbertia]

... except... hmm... it's going to be a challenge for me :/ I like creating a scenario and just playing out with players and seeing where it goes rather then having it all planned out :/ Still- I need to prepare enough to keep the concept rolling.

Like with that school thing I had no classes planned... like the whole 'School' part I didn't prepare for. That's all I'd like to work out is stuff that needs to be worked out for the concept to live in the world.

How things function, or what's going on on specific days- things like that. But I feel the characters should drive the story- I don't have some grand narrative to tell- I just like seeing how the interactions of many cascade into grand events.

[Harbertia]

A character I think inhabits this world that has a bit of Champions, The Philbanks Incident, and inspiration from Archie Comics, Scooby-Doo, and various other products of the 70s.

Lady Liberty
Lady Liberty's career started when she was 16 (As the Star-spangled Gal). While the daughter of The Eagle, one of the World War 2 super soldiers she her self has no powers- her father's abilities coming from an experimental drug now lost. Still she tours around, appearing at events, schools, and on a few PSA's - the fact that she doesn't actually have any powers isn't something people really know about her- and it's something she hides to keep a 'stage persona'- she sees herself as good for the nation- keeping spirits high, reminding people of the great nation, yet over the years she's constantly struggled with defining herself and has been living a duel life- one in private- the other in public. She like most teen stars is reaching a crisis point and she just wants to slip into the crowd- fade out into everyone else- sometimes she wishes she didn't start the persona up- she's no where near her father; playing pretend and making others happy was great for a time but now she wants to find her own happiness- free from the expectations held of her.

(it's like Clark Kent said, in one of the Superman: The Animated Series Episodes "I need to be Kent, if I had to be superman all the time I'd go crazy!")

- Perhaps latter give her powers, or tempt her with the opportunity but her choosing not to take it because it'd compromise something she stands for.

- Perhaps have her come out of this period of reclusion and joining "The Justice Society of America"; and then being bothered by the fact that none of the members know she's not super. Like having an internal struggle of her wanting to tell the truth but afraid of what that would mean for her membership. Have that end with her doing well but getting badly hurt and telling them only after it's happened- like her in a hospital bed telling them or their leader and asking if she's off the team. How would that go? Her getting hurt doing something heroic but beyond her limitations. I suppose we wont know until we build the rest of that team when that arch is ready to be explored. I imagine that since Masked Avengers where the first heroes- prewar - that it wont' be an issue but they'll let her know that she should have told them.

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

A character I think inhabits this world that has a bit of Champions, The Philbanks Incident, and inspiration from Archie Comics, Scooby-Doo, and various other products of the 70s.

Lady Liberty
Lady Liberty's career started when she was 16 (As the Star-spangled Gal). While the daughter of The Eagle, one of the World War 2 super soldiers she her self has no powers- her father's abilities coming from an experimental drug now lost. Still she tours around, appearing at events, schools, and on a few PSA's - the fact that she doesn't actually have any powers isn't something people really know about her- and it's something she hides to keep a 'stage persona'- she sees herself as good for the nation- keeping spirits high, reminding people of the great nation, yet over the years she's constantly struggled with defining herself and has been living a duel life- one in private- the other in public. She like most teen stars is reaching a crisis point and she just wants to slip into the crowd- fade out into everyone else- sometimes she wishes she didn't start the persona up- she's no where near her father; playing pretend and making others happy was great for a time but now she wants to find her own happiness- free from the expectations held of her.

(it's like Clark Kent said, in one of the Superman: The Animated Series Episodes "I need to be Kent, if I had to be superman all the time I'd go crazy!")

- Perhaps latter give her powers, or tempt her with the opportunity but her choosing not to take it because it'd compromise something she stands for.

- Perhaps have her come out of this period of reclusion and joining "The Justice Society of America"; and then being bothered by the fact that none of the members know she's not super. Like having an internal struggle of her wanting to tell the truth but afraid of what that would mean for her membership. Have that end with her doing well but getting badly hurt and telling them only after it's happened- like her in a hospital bed telling them or their leader and asking if she's off the team. How would that go? Her getting hurt doing something heroic but beyond her limitations. I suppose we wont know until we build the rest of that team when that arch is ready to be explored. I imagine that since Masked Avengers where the first heroes- prewar - that it wont' be an issue but they'll let her know that she should have told them.

Stealing Robyn's secret identity?

I do so love that name for a superhero though, always waned to either make a whole line of patriotic costumes for the heroes to wear on holidays or an entire star spangled team.

[Harbertia]

A character I think inhabits this world that has a bit of Champions, The Philbanks Incident, and inspiration from Archie Comics, Scooby-Doo, and various other products of the 70s.

Lady Liberty
Lady Liberty's career started when she was 16 (As the Star-spangled Gal). While the daughter of The Eagle, one of the World War 2 super soldiers she her self has no powers- her father's abilities coming from an experimental drug now lost. Still she tours around, appearing at events, schools, and on a few PSA's - the fact that she doesn't actually have any powers isn't something people really know about her- and it's something she hides to keep a 'stage persona'- she sees herself as good for the nation- keeping spirits high, reminding people of the great nation, yet over the years she's constantly struggled with defining herself and has been living a duel life- one in private- the other in public. She like most teen stars is reaching a crisis point and she just wants to slip into the crowd- fade out into everyone else- sometimes she wishes she didn't start the persona up- she's no where near her father; playing pretend and making others happy was great for a time but now she wants to find her own happiness- free from the expectations held of her.

(it's like Clark Kent said, in one of the Superman: The Animated Series Episodes "I need to be Kent, if I had to be superman all the time I'd go crazy!")

- Perhaps latter give her powers, or tempt her with the opportunity but her choosing not to take it because it'd compromise something she stands for.

- Perhaps have her come out of this period of reclusion and joining "The Justice Society of America"; and then being bothered by the fact that none of the members know she's not super. Like having an internal struggle of her wanting to tell the truth but afraid of what that would mean for her membership. Have that end with her doing well but getting badly hurt and telling them only after it's happened- like her in a hospital bed telling them or their leader and asking if she's off the team. How would that go? Her getting hurt doing something heroic but beyond her limitations. I suppose we wont know until we build the rest of that team when that arch is ready to be explored. I imagine that since Masked Avengers where the first heroes- prewar - that it wont' be an issue but they'll let her know that she should have told them.

Stealing Robyn's secret identity?

I do so love that name for a superhero though, always waned to either make a whole line of patriotic costumes for the heroes to wear on holidays or an entire star spangled team.

The name sticks to the mind! hahahah It just works so well!

[Harbertia]

So I re-watched "Scooby-Doo and the Ghoul School" last night- I was having trouble going to sleep so felt a movie would help.

... Wel... um... it's entertaining but - I'm not sure what to say really.

So, it put me in the mind of an Anime (plot set up) but it-

hm... it's like- a TV show that got condensed into a single film. As in it feels like there was a lot more to be explored and the characters have not appeared in any other scooby media since.

I mean, most one time characters in the various series are either suspects, cuplrits, or other minor character in relation to the overall plot- but- these Ghouls are major characters. It really felt that the pilot episode of a series that never got off the ground- something in the fashion of the Adams Family cartoons with a focus on the School Story genre.

It wouldn't be the first time such a thing happened; two episodes of Star Trek: The Original Series were meant to be pilot episodes for spin offs if the show ever got cancelled.

It's real easy to imagine- the rivalry between this all boys and all girls schools (Calloway Military School and Grimwood respectfully) being a focus along with relationships at either schools and between schools. Again it sounds more like something the Japanese would do but it turns out that back in the 80s School Story was a largely British and American genre- and immigrated to Japan via English media. It proved to have more fertile ground in Japan where such Private Schools where more common; such establishments fading in the English speaking world.

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For those still reading and unfamiliar or vaguely recalling of the plot;

Shag, Scoob, and Scrappy are on their way to an all girls school. Shaggy (if one recalls he was a champion of track at his school) has signed a contract to be a gym teacher at this school. When they arrive they find out that it's actually an all girls school for monsters (Ghouls as they say) and shaggy's trapped in the contract with the Headmistress. She recruited him in hopes of getting the girls ready to finally win a vollyball game they have annually with neighboring Calloway Military School; which is an all boys establishment.

Gradually Shaggy gets over his fear, and does his job and befriends the girls leading them to victory in the game- for the first time since the contest was started between the schools. Meanwhile a vile she monster, Revolta is planning to capture the girls and make them her evil puppets so she can become the strongest monster- seeing how Dracula, Wolfman, and the others have in her words 'become soft'. During a Halloween open house the girls introduce a fearful Shaggy to their parents- and we see that they have indeed become soft over the years- but they let shaggy know that if anything happens to their girls it's him who shall pay.

That night Revolta uses magic on Shaggy, imprinting in him the idea of a fieldtrip. It's on this trip that Revolta captures the girls and Shaggy and Scoob- fearful of the wraith that will come upon them mount a rescue of which the Calloway students aid in. The Girls are saved form Revolta's magic as her castle melts down. When Shaggy and Scoob learn that more girls will be showing up for the next year (aye it's been a year but we've only seen a few hours of it) they leave, having reached the limit of their cool- and drive off with scrappy while the girls wave them farewell.

... it's certainly odd, even by those films standards. It's also the last appearance of Scrappy as a character in the series- until that modern live action film.

Anyhow- it felt like the pilot of a series due to so much being unexplored.

[Harbertia]

Alright, it's time I focus on what I CAN do- a visual novel (and selling something on EBAY) ... so visual novel- time to get- writing. I don't know how active I'll be on NS- I still got to get the IC of the GW RP rolling rolling and stuff but- hm... mind is a float.

[Harbertia]

The hard part- is wanting to share my ideas while they haven't fully baked :/ while also wanting some of ya'll to play test when I get that far (since I can't make anything 3D I've yet to decide platform- I'd love to make something like a Tell Tale game).

[Harbertia]

I'm installing Sims 3 via Origin on this computer. Found out what was wrong on my old one (I think) - I forget to register my games with Origin- I did with Fraxis but not Origin so- I was using both store bought and downloaded content (virtual and physical copies) and do not registering my physical copies with my digital ones- well- the game thought I was pirating stuff and thus wouldn't recognize me as logged into the Sims Network. I've rectified that situation and thus should not experience said issue Which makes me so happy!

[Personal Freedom]

Anyone up for reforging the Private RP?

Remaking it- taking what we have and remodeling it.

Most of the images seem to no longer work but- we can do something.

The setup still worked but it was so jumbled that one can think of it as a - fumble that just needs to be followed by a return.

World Building, aeh? AHE? YEAH?

Edit: The concept originally came for the world of Archie's Weird Mysteries. The aim I had was to create world that allowed for sitcoms, superheroes, science fiction, fantasy, etc in a setting that a bit like the world of Fallout is familiar enough to jump into but different enough that one discovers new things. For example, why one can't see it now Minnesota's state flag was different- a proposed flag from some years back. It was small things like that and a bit like Life is Strange in that while it's set in the present the world is of such a nature that you can't tell if your really in the modern day or the 70s/60s/50s. I'd love to get back into this AGAIN!

Fascinating... reminds me of how the later editions of league of extraordinary gentlemen weaves in various references and replace any real person with a fictional version (i.e. Turner Purple, a character Mick Jagger played based on himself is the League's Mick Jagger)

[Harbertia]

Anyone up for reforging the Private RP?

Remaking it- taking what we have and remodeling it.

Most of the images seem to no longer work but- we can do something.

The setup still worked but it was so jumbled that one can think of it as a - fumble that just needs to be followed by a return.

World Building, aeh? AHE? YEAH?

Edit: The concept originally came for the world of Archie's Weird Mysteries. The aim I had was to create world that allowed for sitcoms, superheroes, science fiction, fantasy, etc in a setting that a bit like the world of Fallout is familiar enough to jump into but different enough that one discovers new things. For example, why one can't see it now Minnesota's state flag was different- a proposed flag from some years back. It was small things like that and a bit like Life is Strange in that while it's set in the present the world is of such a nature that you can't tell if your really in the modern day or the 70s/60s/50s. I'd love to get back into this AGAIN!

Fascinating... reminds me of how the later editions of league of extraordinary gentlemen weaves in various references and replace any real person with a fictional version (i.e. Turner Purple, a character Mick Jagger played based on himself is the League's Mick Jagger)

Or how Vick Van Ghoul was pretty much Vincent Price in that one Stooby-Doo Movie Yeah, it's a bit like that. Familiar yet different. I've thought about it and I'm still up for this project. I've actually been working on it.

[Harbertia]

Really I just have information on the point when the timeline began to diverge in a more noticeable way then just 'people existing who don't in our timeline'- that being WWII, the founding the United League of Nations, and some politics involving countries that don't exist in OTL. Superheroes are primarily the cause for the rampant divergence of the era- I think.

I know that one of the characters I have (for the CYOA or Tell Tale like game project) wouldn't likely exist if not for the divergence.

The world has some subculture of monsters in it- they are not 'de jure' segregated but rather have largely separated themselves due to the typical response people have towards them. Are their marches for acceptance- possibly- if not marches certainly pamphlets. Things in the past where not kind to them.

For example... ....

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Vampires....

The American Civil War... the south... plantations... the type of thing that was going on in 'Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Slayer' where taking place in this world's timeline. As such tension between 'monsters' and 'norms' have roots.

And not all monsters are 'reformed'- people have reason to fear them- and people use that fear to their advantage.

It's a situation the likes of which I have pondered but not actually RPed with.

It's like- neither the people nor the monsters are overtly good or evil yet in both populations those traits can be observed.

I think that situation will be challenging to handle- it's like the Cold War but with Racial Tensions. It's like how the 70s feared a race war '~'

As far as I can tell the US is together due to- well- the common man having peace of mind due to the distance between them and the monsters yet every so often that peace is disturbed and it's usually (according to the news) ill. Headlines like; "Monster Teen Wrecks Drive-In".

Edit: But what I think is worse is people who encourage it all- the whole "If you don't think we should bash the Humans your a traitor to your kind!".

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

I dont really feel that superhumans as we call them would change things all too incredibly.

The thing is that we in our world consider it odd because we have never seen them, to us some folks such as Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps seem extraordinary or even beyond human. If you imagine a world of frail beings, to them our great athletes would be on the same pedestal as where we place superman and such. Normal is relative. So in a world where folks like superman are real and exist, they would cope. That would be their norm.

Now, it changes war, athletics, things that revolve around human physical ability. And war drives history, sure, but I do not believe it too illogical to say that the world would not be that different.

[Harbertia]

I dont really feel that superhumans as we call them would change things all too incredibly.

The thing is that we in our world consider it odd because we have never seen them, to us some folks such as Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps seem extraordinary or even beyond human. If you imagine a world of frail beings, to them our great athletes would be on the same pedestal as where we place superman and such. Normal is relative. So in a world where folks like superman are real and exist, they would cope. That would be their norm.

Now, it changes war, athletics, things that revolve around human physical ability. And war drives history, sure, but I do not believe it too illogical to say that the world would not be that different.

Yeah, that makes sense. It would go along with the world being 'different but familiar'. It's strange to us but really not that hard to get use to after thinking about it- am I still curious about how things are the way they are? Yes but I'm sure that with time the answer will come into being.

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You got me thinking about the Red Baron; that's probably the closest to some 'grand hero' during a world war we have in OTL. He even had the Flying Circus and despite the unwise color schemes of the plans still managed to fight effectively- in fact the red turned out to be to his advantage due to how the sun reflected off the fabric (it made it difficult in sunlight for Entente forces to target him due to it being a bit like looking at a light bulb directly).

He was one man who preformed feats of the air deemed 'beyond normal' and when the Flying Circus flew overhead German Morale increased leading to some of the more daring trench assaults by the Central Powers.

I read up on what happened to him; his cousin was part of the Flying Circus and a Canadian Airman was on his cousin's tail low to the ground. The Baron managed to save his cousin but the Canadian shot the Baron down; and interestingly enough- at the time- the Entente and the Central Powers where not that thrilled. He'd caught the imagination and admiration of both sides in the war and the lose of such a great man was felt by both sides in a way that wasn't tactical driven but emotional.

The impact he had on fellow soldiers on both sides is something we have documentation of, and can study.

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In the Private RP setting I imagine the supers in WW2 where a bit like that except when it comes to the Axis I think. Again didn't really change much- war is war- but it did change something- the Baron gave a hope and drive that war can diminish (war weariness).

Edit: Seeing how people are talking about the Baron 100 years latter (he was shot down in 1918) it really isn't that strange to imagine people in the setting fascinated by the actions of supers during the 2nd world war. Even if it wasn't a major impact on the outcome the public would still talk about it- a bit like Captain America in the marvel universe- J. Jonah Jamison, Spiderman, etc- they all looked up to the Cap even before his return. I guess ripples is a word for the effect.

Edit: One of the Baron's strengths was, despite what some may think, his visibility- his foes knew who he was and what he has accomplished- as to did the soldiers on the ground- and that impacted the field of battle. I imagine the same would apply to supers in this setting.

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

I dont really feel that superhumans as we call them would change things all too incredibly.

The thing is that we in our world consider it odd because we have never seen them, to us some folks such as Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps seem extraordinary or even beyond human. If you imagine a world of frail beings, to them our great athletes would be on the same pedestal as where we place superman and such. Normal is relative. So in a world where folks like superman are real and exist, they would cope. That would be their norm.

Now, it changes war, athletics, things that revolve around human physical ability. And war drives history, sure, but I do not believe it too illogical to say that the world would not be that different.

Yeah, that makes sense. It would go along with the world being 'different but familiar'. It's strange to us but really not that hard to get use to after thinking about it- am I still curious about how things are the way they are? Yes but I'm sure that with time the answer will come into being.

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You got me thinking about the Red Baron; that's probably the closest to some 'grand hero' during a world war we have in OTL. He even had the Flying Circus and despite the unwise color schemes of the plans still managed to fight effectively- in fact the red turned out to be to his advantage due to how the sun reflected off the fabric (it made it difficult in sunlight for Entente forces to target him due to it being a bit like looking at a light bulb directly).

He was one man who preformed feats of the air deemed 'beyond normal' and when the Flying Circus flew overhead German Morale increased leading to some of the more daring trench assaults by the Central Powers.

I read up on what happened to him; his cousin was part of the Flying Circus and a Canadian Airman was on his cousin's tail low to the ground. The Baron managed to save his cousin but the Canadian shot the Baron down; and interestingly enough- at the time- the Entente and the Central Powers where not that thrilled. He'd caught the imagination and admiration of both sides in the war and the lose of such a great man was felt by both sides in a way that wasn't tactical driven but emotional.

The impact he had on fellow soldiers on both sides is something we have documentation of, and can study.

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In the Private RP setting I imagine the supers in WW2 where a bit like that except when it comes to the Axis I think. Again didn't really change much- war is war- but it did change something- the Baron gave a hope and drive that war can diminish (war weariness).

Edit: Seeing how people are talking about the Baron 100 years latter (he was shot down in 1918) it really isn't that strange to imagine people in the setting fascinated by the actions of supers during the 2nd world war. Even if it wasn't a major impact on the outcome the public would still talk about it- a bit like Captain America in the marvel universe- J. Jonah Jamison, Spiderman, etc- they all looked up to the Cap even before his return. I guess ripples is a word for the effect.

Edit: One of the Baron's strengths was, despite what some may think, his visibility- his foes knew who he was and what he has accomplished- as to did the soldiers on the ground- and that impacted the field of battle. I imagine the same would apply to supers in this setting.

World War One was far different than the sequel.

In the Great War there was still some semblance of humanity, mankind had yet to go truly insane. By the time of the Second, there was no humanity left. The Red Baron of Germany was regarded as a polite and gentle man; he did his job as all pilots did. There was a code of honor among pilots as there was for knights of their time. Few men of the second world war had this code, it was far more than Hell, it was the bottom of the Abyss, you stood upon the frozen lake looking Satan in the eye as he laughed finally free of his prison.

In the end there was a grand difference between men such as the Red Baron of Germany, Richtofen, and his half a century successors - they were monsters mounted upon steeds of steel armed with lances of lead and fire. He did his job, for those after? The goal was not to win the battle, it was to murder the enemy. Surrender? Nonexistent, there was no such thing as surrender and retreating to land - you were a wounded bird snuffed out by falcons with mass discontent. The War Machine had been birthed, and any sense of honor left to man was evaporated by the heat of its engine.

It is rather funny, though I suppose I laugh out of cynicalism than anything, I had a conversation at the event with the marine corporal of the USS Louisville. Fella said my uniform was off on some details, what he really harped on though was my pistol belt - I wear two revolvers, one on each hip. Reason I bring this up, mankind did not suddenly become monsters, I do not believe, because despite there being a piece of paper saying it is wrong to shoot a an idiot like me running the gauntlet between firing lines to grab the wounded and the dead - you could still hear those muskets fire upon us as we do, and to think of the rifleman seeing his "kill" be carted away to fight another day, the notch on his weapon be dragged off to heal and recuperate meaning his enemy shall return at a later date or perhaps not at all. The anger at a snake leaving the slaughter grounds. I understand that, I do, and as much as I want to believe this ideal of total destruction is a modern invention, it is as old as time I must say. The difference in a warrior and a militant is that a warrior does not let himself become so consumed with anger that he fails to be human and feel compassion, love, and kindness for his fellow man. Now, it is nowhere near a battlefield, but it is the only experience I got and thus I share it with you so that perhaps we can understand this, I was denied treatment giving to the "Yankees", granted I could have done such - I operate under Doc Withington, who gave me express orders to care for all men from Abraham Lincoln himself to the lowest of privates.

It was hot, there was horse dung EVERYWHERE, and the men had no water, but if I had hauled those poor boys in dark blue wool to somewhere appropriate to lay, I bet my bottom dollar someone would have gotten heated over it.

I think that would be the time period to really start superhero stuff, the "victorian age", the 19th Century. The world then was just starting to seem so much smaller than it was a a couple hundred years before. Industrialization was really coming around strong, the entire world was changing in such a way no one knew what the Hell was gonna happen XD

Also, I tooooootally have some pics for such a setting, because yours truly is amazingly photogenic and if you ignore all the tourists and modern stuff, which I could crop out likely, we might even get some neat pictures for use as headlines for RP threads.

[Personal Freedom]

It's weird seeing retired moderators that have cte.

[Harbertia]

Yeah, that makes sense. It would go along with the world being 'different but familiar'. It's strange to us but really not that hard to get use to after thinking about it- am I still curious about how things are the way they are? Yes but I'm sure that with time the answer will come into being.

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You got me thinking about the Red Baron; that's probably the closest to some 'grand hero' during a world war we have in OTL. He even had the Flying Circus and despite the unwise color schemes of the plans still managed to fight effectively- in fact the red turned out to be to his advantage due to how the sun reflected off the fabric (it made it difficult in sunlight for Entente forces to target him due to it being a bit like looking at a light bulb directly).

He was one man who preformed feats of the air deemed 'beyond normal' and when the Flying Circus flew overhead German Morale increased leading to some of the more daring trench assaults by the Central Powers.

I read up on what happened to him; his cousin was part of the Flying Circus and a Canadian Airman was on his cousin's tail low to the ground. The Baron managed to save his cousin but the Canadian shot the Baron down; and interestingly enough- at the time- the Entente and the Central Powers where not that thrilled. He'd caught the imagination and admiration of both sides in the war and the lose of such a great man was felt by both sides in a way that wasn't tactical driven but emotional.

The impact he had on fellow soldiers on both sides is something we have documentation of, and can study.

---

In the Private RP setting I imagine the supers in WW2 where a bit like that except when it comes to the Axis I think. Again didn't really change much- war is war- but it did change something- the Baron gave a hope and drive that war can diminish (war weariness).

Edit: Seeing how people are talking about the Baron 100 years latter (he was shot down in 1918) it really isn't that strange to imagine people in the setting fascinated by the actions of supers during the 2nd world war. Even if it wasn't a major impact on the outcome the public would still talk about it- a bit like Captain America in the marvel universe- J. Jonah Jamison, Spiderman, etc- they all looked up to the Cap even before his return. I guess ripples is a word for the effect.

Edit: One of the Baron's strengths was, despite what some may think, his visibility- his foes knew who he was and what he has accomplished- as to did the soldiers on the ground- and that impacted the field of battle. I imagine the same would apply to supers in this setting.

World War One was far different than the sequel.

In the Great War there was still some semblance of humanity, mankind had yet to go truly insane. By the time of the Second, there was no humanity left. The Red Baron of Germany was regarded as a polite and gentle man; he did his job as all pilots did. There was a code of honor among pilots as there was for knights of their time. Few men of the second world war had this code, it was far more than Hell, it was the bottom of the Abyss, you stood upon the frozen lake looking Satan in the eye as he laughed finally free of his prison.

In the end there was a grand difference between men such as the Red Baron of Germany, Richtofen, and his half a century successors - they were monsters mounted upon steeds of steel armed with lances of lead and fire. He did his job, for those after? The goal was not to win the battle, it was to murder the enemy. Surrender? Nonexistent, there was no such thing as surrender and retreating to land - you were a wounded bird snuffed out by falcons with mass discontent. The War Machine had been birthed, and any sense of honor left to man was evaporated by the heat of its engine.

It is rather funny, though I suppose I laugh out of cynicalism than anything, I had a conversation at the event with the marine corporal of the USS Louisville. Fella said my uniform was off on some details, what he really harped on though was my pistol belt - I wear two revolvers, one on each hip. Reason I bring this up, mankind did not suddenly become monsters, I do not believe, because despite there being a piece of paper saying it is wrong to shoot a an idiot like me running the gauntlet between firing lines to grab the wounded and the dead - you could still hear those muskets fire upon us as we do, and to think of the rifleman seeing his "kill" be carted away to fight another day, the notch on his weapon be dragged off to heal and recuperate meaning his enemy shall return at a later date or perhaps not at all. The anger at a snake leaving the slaughter grounds. I understand that, I do, and as much as I want to believe this ideal of total destruction is a modern invention, it is as old as time I must say. The difference in a warrior and a militant is that a warrior does not let himself become so consumed with anger that he fails to be human and feel compassion, love, and kindness for his fellow man. Now, it is nowhere near a battlefield, but it is the only experience I got and thus I share it with you so that perhaps we can understand this, I was denied treatment giving to the "Yankees", granted I could have done such - I operate under Doc Withington, who gave me express orders to care for all men from Abraham Lincoln himself to the lowest of privates.

It was hot, there was horse dung EVERYWHERE, and the men had no water, but if I had hauled those poor boys in dark blue wool to somewhere appropriate to lay, I bet my bottom dollar someone would have gotten heated over it.

I think that would be the time period to really start superhero stuff, the "victorian age", the 19th Century. The world then was just starting to seem so much smaller than it was a a couple hundred years before. Industrialization was really coming around strong, the entire world was changing in such a way no one knew what the Hell was gonna happen XD

Also, I tooooootally have some pics for such a setting, because yours truly is amazingly photogenic and if you ignore all the tourists and modern stuff, which I could crop out likely, we might even get some neat pictures for use as headlines for RP threads.

I wasn't attempting to say that the superhero stuff started in the 2nd world war; only that super powers started to kick off at that time. Masked Avengers (Lone Ranger, Zorro, etc) type characters would have proceeded them. Hypnotism, illusion, etc would have started to give such characters more to operate with but the outlandish powers seen in modern comics wouldn't have started to appear until the 20th century. I'd rather like the RP to be set in a present rather then a past or future.

Edit: Sure we could explore the American Civil War; as discussed before with the Vampires- but- ... well actually nothing is stopping us form that. We just wouldn't have that 'National Union Party' plot going on with it

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

Totally dumb question but does anyone know if you can link data between your iCloud and Steam Cloud?