Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Harbertia wrote:Iiii....ve been thinking at work and I wouldn't say that.
... I mean- Bing and I both have some 'dark' princess characters (they are after all the daughters of a conquer of worlds and didn't really grow up in a friendly environment). I'd say there is a difference between being Batman and the Punisher. Both are 'dark' characters but of them Batman is the lighter; I'm fine with Batman but I am not a fan of the Punisher.
It's hard to explain; a dark light? a 'Shadowed'' rather then 'Dark' fantasy.
Batman is after all still Bruce Wayne, and he has moral standards.
Punisher on the other hand has no trouble using villain tactics against the villains- he'll kidnap those close to them to draw them out before dishing out his sense of justice- he's a walking arsenal that while trained on the scum of the city still catches the innocent in his crosshairs.
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That's why the idea of 'no witnesses' and secrecy- and all this lose- it doesn't set well with me :/ It reminds me of the theory that Arnold's character in Predator gets a bullet to the head to keep extraterrestrials a secret- in short it's too dark - blurring the lines.
I get what you are saying, in the end I am a pragmatic guy, you got the choice of letting the criminal go without confrontation - he might shoot an innocent while getting away, or fighting him there with innocents in the crossfire.
It is a hard choice, and I do get that. Same kind of choice they had to make when dropping The Bombs, fear having to murder the innocent invading the home islands, or detonate these weapons on cities important to the War that still house civilians? That is why war is a fool's pursuit. There is no right answer and no easy one either. Only a psycho or a sadist can make easy choices with lives on the line.
In the example given I have to agree with Punisher, you gun for the villains and that is it. You try to keep the good innocent people out of it, but sometimes that just does not happen as it should, you limit the casualties and do your best to protect them - the primary way to do so being to take down the threat.
In a country about to go through civil war you have nationalists and communists getting steam. Sometimes you have to support the nationalists because at least the Warsaw Pact will not give them guns and weapons, they will the communists. It is limiting a threat.
Wetwork sucks, it is fortunate the world will truly never know what those kinds of entities and agencies have to do, the truly horrible things that keep the world going as it does, by no means smooth, but it could always be much worse.
Will you be able to put that aside for the RP?





well... there is that concept that- he's not actually a knight which can account for some of his behavior.

I'll take a bit to think this over but I presently do not object.