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[Elerian]

How is wanting a youthful protege dumb make him dumb?

If your guild is dying, and in its dying breath churns out one last generation of Warders and Mages, who would you rather help you train and lead them?

A: A veteran Warder who has served the guild for tens of years, who has proven his loyalty and efficiency to the guild, and who has shown to have the resolve to carry out the Rite of Desecration;

B: Some person who only recently joined the guild, after abandoning her country, before which she abandoned her guild.

Seems like an obvious choice, no?

Considering he already has a mage, no. To lead the company you can't have a mage, a mage requires enough attention as it is.

[Elerian]

If your guild is dying, and in its dying breath churns out one last generation of Warders and Mages, who would you rather help you train and lead them?

A: A veteran Warder who has served the guild fortens of years Decades, who has proven his loyalty and efficiency to the guild, and who has shown to have the resolve to carry out the Rite of Desecration;

B: Some person who only recently joined the guild, after abandoning her country, before which she abandoned her guild.

Seems like an obvious choice, no?

Agadar does have a point. I mean she could be a protege to be groomed for leadership of the Guild. But the actual SIC be Agadar's characters.

I mean, if you guys want it this badly . . .

[Woodstovia]

So I assume the IC's being postponed again?

[SaintB]

I'm with E's justification. Warders with mages have enough on their plate.

[Agadar]

Agadar does have a point. I mean she could be a protege to be groomed for leadership of the Guild. But the actual SIC be Agadar's characters.

I mean, if you guys want it this badly . . .

It's not a matter of wanting something (badly). It's just that in order for it to work logically and story-wise, my guy should either outrank her, or I'd have to alter my application slightly. I don't mind the latter at all. The call's yours, chief.

[Elerian]

So I assume the IC's being postponed again?

Shouldn't be, the night is still young, and I'm making progress.

I mean, if you guys want it this badly . . .

It's not a matter of wanting something (badly). It's just that in order for it to work logically and story-wise, my guy should either outrank her, or I'd have to alter my application slightly. I don't mind the latter at all. The call's yours, chief.

I mean, like I said, with a Mage already under your charge, your attention to her would either be second or first to everyone else. Either way that isn't ideal for someone in charge. Your character may be the most qualified, but he already has someone to look after, Vivianna does not.

[SaintB]

So I assume the IC's being postponed again?

ICs come when they come.

I mean, if you guys want it this badly . . .

It's not a matter of wanting something (badly). It's just that in order for it to work logically and story-wise, my guy should either outrank her, or I'd have to alter my application slightly. I don't mind the latter at all. The call's yours, chief.

My four cents is that a warder either chooses leadership or a mage. Your character chose to keep wardening as opposed to leadership.

[Imperialisium]

So I assume the IC's being postponed again?

ICs come when they come.

It's not a matter of wanting something (badly). It's just that in order for it to work logically and story-wise, my guy should either outrank her, or I'd have to alter my application slightly. I don't mind the latter at all. The call's yours, chief.

My four cents is that a warder either chooses leadership or a mage. Your character chose to keep wardening as opposed to leadership.

I feel a warder should be in charge. After all Warders are meant to keep Mage's in line and prevent them from just doing whatever they please.

[Woodstovia]

ICs come when they come.


My four cents is that a warder either chooses leadership or a mage. Your character chose to keep wardening as opposed to leadership.

I feel a warder should be in charge. After all Warders are meant to keep Mage's in line and prevent them from just doing whatever they please.

But that's what he's saying a warder should be in charge but shouldn't have a mage

[Free Empire of the Low Isles]

ICs come when they come.


My four cents is that a warder either chooses leadership or a mage. Your character chose to keep wardening as opposed to leadership.

I feel a warder should be in charge. After all Warders are meant to keep Mage's in line and prevent them from just doing whatever they please.

Both Vivanna and Calder are Warders.

[The Starlight]

I feel like Elerian should get that IC up.

Just kidding, take whatever time you need.

[Imperialisium]

I feel a warder should be in charge. After all Warders are meant to keep Mage's in line and prevent them from just doing whatever they please.

But that's what he's saying a warder should be in charge but shouldn't have a mage

and in truth the lead of the guild should not have a Mage. It makes sense. Having a Mage and the potential close bond could lead to emotions getting in the way. Clouding judgement and preventing Calder from making the hard choices.

[Agadar]

So I assume the IC's being postponed again?

ICs come when they come.

It's not a matter of wanting something (badly). It's just that in order for it to work logically and story-wise, my guy should either outrank her, or I'd have to alter my application slightly. I don't mind the latter at all. The call's yours, chief.

My four cents is that a warder either chooses leadership or a mage. Your character chose to keep wardening as opposed to leadership.

But is a Warder without a Mage companion still a Warder?

What is the definition of a Warder, exactly?

[Woodstovia]

ICs come when they come.


My four cents is that a warder either chooses leadership or a mage. Your character chose to keep wardening as opposed to leadership.

But is a Warder without a Mage companion still a Warder?

What is the definition of a Warder, exactly?

It says in the OP a group of elite soldiers with no magical ability

[Agadar]

But is a Warder without a Mage companion still a Warder?

What is the definition of a Warder, exactly?

It says in the OP a group of elite soldiers with no magical ability

So when a new Warder joins a guild, is he given the explicite choice of leadership or Wardenship? Or do Warders whose Mage companions died one way or another simply move up to become leaders? How does it work?

[Elerian]

It says in the OP a group of elite soldiers with no magical ability

So when a new Warder joins a guild, is he given the explicite choice of leadership or Wardenship? Or do Warders whose Mage companions died one way or another simply move up to become leaders? How does it work?

Well, they don't get to just say "I'm going to be a Captain", the Guildmaster chooses who is promoted to a Captain, and it can change based upon the Guildmaster. But, usually the Guildmaster delegates the officer duties based upon merit. And, the Guildmaster is usually chosen by vote.

For our purposes, there is an elected Guildmaster who chooses Captains based upon need. There's often more Warders than there are Mages, so based upon several factors different Warders are given priority over others for who receives a Mage. The remaining Warders are given different jobs that don't need both a Mage and a Warder.

[Raktio]

By the way I'm going to get my Warden done (which I plan on having a dwarf, or possibly a orc) once I've got power back and not limited to battery life and sketchy data connection.

Also orcs going to be along the lines of d&d, Tolkiens or something a little more "civilised?"

[Elerian]

By the way I'm going to get my Warden done (which I plan on having a dwarf, or possibly a orc) once I've got power back and not limited to battery life and sketchy data connection.

Also orcs going to be along the lines of d&d, Tolkiens or something a little more "civilised?"

You should probably go with the Dwarf, I don't think I'm going to have Orcs be very intelligent if I have them at all.

[Raktio]

By the way I'm going to get my Warden done (which I plan on having a dwarf, or possibly a orc) once I've got power back and not limited to battery life and sketchy data connection.

Also orcs going to be along the lines of d&d, Tolkiens or something a little more "civilised?"

You should probably go with the Dwarf, I don't think I'm going to have Orcs be very intelligent if I have them at all.

K

[Agadar]

So when a new Warder joins a guild, is he given the explicite choice of leadership or Wardenship? Or do Warders whose Mage companions died one way or another simply move up to become leaders? How does it work?

Well, they don't get to just say "I'm going to be a Captain", the Guildmaster chooses who is promoted to a Captain, and it can change based upon the Guildmaster. But, usually the Guildmaster delegates the officer duties based upon merit. And, the Guildmaster is usually chosen by vote.

For our purposes, there is an elected Guildmaster who chooses Captains based upon need. There's often more Warders than there are Mages, so based upon several factors different Warders are given priority over others for who receives a Mage. The remaining Warders are given different jobs that don't need both a Mage and a Warder.

So essentially, if one were a powerhungry sort of guy, one should call in sick when Warders are assigned to Mages so that he isn't assigned to one, and as a result is a candidate for an officer position.

No wonder most guilds became corrupted if this is how their hierarchies work.

[Woodstovia]

spotted the ic

[Elerian]

spotted the ic

Shhh.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=363875&p=27125285#p27125285

[Elerian]

Well, they don't get to just say "I'm going to be a Captain", the Guildmaster chooses who is promoted to a Captain, and it can change based upon the Guildmaster. But, usually the Guildmaster delegates the officer duties based upon merit. And, the Guildmaster is usually chosen by vote.

For our purposes, there is an elected Guildmaster who chooses Captains based upon need. There's often more Warders than there are Mages, so based upon several factors different Warders are given priority over others for who receives a Mage. The remaining Warders are given different jobs that don't need both a Mage and a Warder.

So essentially, if one were a powerhungry sort of guy, one should call in sick when Warders are assigned to Mages so that he isn't assigned to one, and as a result is a candidate for an officer position.

No wonder most guilds became corrupted if this is how their hierarchies work.

Some of the Guildmasters accept bribes in return for favorable positions. There's plenty of questionable things the bad Guilds do for money and power.

There are loopholes, but the Guilds are supposed to be Meritocracies, somewhere along the line they became something else entirely.

[Free Empire of the Low Isles]

Rah was the Warder on duty!

I calls it!

[Elerian]

Rah was the Warder on duty!

I calls it!

Better wake everyone up then.