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Should I make the IC?

Poll ended at Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:50 pm

Yes, if we wait then people will lost interest.
15
58%
No, we should wait for more nations.
8
31%
I don't care.
3
12%
 
Total votes : 26

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Cabana
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Postby Cabana » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:46 am

Caraani wrote:Can I reserve France?

There's currently a guy trying to apply for France but he keeps making mistakes.
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-Vladimir Lenin was married to Reagan's wife. Make of that what you will.
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Caraani
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Postby Caraani » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:52 am

Well then, let me try too :).
Last edited by Caraani on Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:54 am

Sharko Federation wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Yes.

Don't think of invading my Indian kingdom of Kashmir...


You'll face the consequences if you do...

No, you are too poor, and not on any major trade routes.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Sharko Federation
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Postby Sharko Federation » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:59 am

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Sharko Federation wrote:Don't think of invading my Indian kingdom of Kashmir...


You'll face the consequences if you do...

No, you are too poor, and not on any major trade routes.



Hurray! Time to use the fact that I am allied to Russia to invade the Portuguese colonies!
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:59 am

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I am not really sure.

I am the gray on th map. The land in the Northeastern North America, Venad, and the Komo Colony.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Vicavian Empire
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Postby Vicavian Empire » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:23 am

Cabana wrote:
Caraani wrote:Can I reserve France?

There's currently a guy trying to apply for France but he keeps making mistakes.

isn't the meeting supposed to decide Australia and Africa?

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Postby Sanabel » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:53 am

Vicavian Empire wrote:
Cabana wrote:There's currently a guy trying to apply for France but he keeps making mistakes.

isn't the meeting supposed to decide Australia and Africa?

Yes. Those two continents.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Caraani
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Postby Caraani » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:59 am

Full Nation Name: The United Empire of France, England, Arragon and Sicily.
Short Nation Name: The United Empire/France/The French Empire
National Flag: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Union-of-Britannia-a-France-481749763
Territory: (On Home Continent) Image
: France (without much of Brittany, and with parts of Switzerland), Arragon, England, Corsica, Sicily, Malta.
Colonies: (If Any) The Caribbean colonies which were IRL colonies of France and England; Algeria; Tunisia; Part of Cameroon; The Atlantic Ocean Islands IRL possessions of Britain; Guyana; Southern Florida (evolved from the Nouvelle-France Floridienne, even if most of the original colony was lost); The Maldives; Madagascar; Parts of Australia (Claim on all of it); New Zealand; New Caledonia; Part of the IRL Indian Kingdom of Orissa (has plans to expand into all of India, claims north-eastern part of India).
Client States: (If Any) None.
Official Language(s): Franco-Saxon (Known as Normand, it is a French dialect similar to that spoken in Normandy, with a lot of words and influence from old English)
Form of Government: Constitutional Monarchy (Officially; the Emperor still holds a lot of power)
Head of State: Emperor Charles IX Plantagenet
Head of Government: Prime Minister Alexander Stuart
Capital City: Officially Paris (where the Emperor resides); de facto London, seat of the Government.
Population: 54 Million (European Population). 57 with the colonies.
Ethnicities: Franco-Saxon (French and English people no longer exist; they are called Franco-Saxon), Catalonians, Sicilians, Maltese, Germans (Alsace-Lorraine), italians (Valle d'Aoste/Niece), Celts (in England and Northern France), Spanish (In Arragon), Ligurians in Corsica; colonies: Algerian, Tunisian, Central African ethnicities, Malagasy, Orissan, (whatever ethnicity there is in Maldives), Australian Natives, American Natives, Creole, Caribbean Natives, Afro-Americans, Maori, Pacific Natives.
Culture: (describe your nation's primary culture, and accepted/other cultures within your nation) The Primary Culture in the United Empire is Franco-Saxon, which has evolved from a mixture of French and Saxon/English culture, as well as Southern French. Accepted culture (albeit under pressure to integrate) are Catalonian, Sicilian(Southern Italian) and Piedmontese (in Valle d'Aoste and Niece, where they have special rights).
Religion: (state the situation of the church within your nation) The United Empire has been Catholic since its inception, however there is a significant Calvinist (Hugonotte) minority in Southern France and in England, due to the relative tolerance they have enjoyed under the Plantagenets. Religion has become a rather private and taboo matter after the revolution, and the state is now secular, as it should be.
Army: The Army has 1.2 million men. Following the reforms of the army after the disaster of 1848, now most soldiers serve only a few years with the regulars before passing into the reserves. The payment has also been increased to 2 franks per day, and rations of food have been made a must for any soldier, even if food itself is not that great, the Franco-Saxon troops are still the best fed in Europe. There have been military schools since before the revolution, however in the 1840s it was made a requirement for a soldier to have a basic degree of studies before joining the army, as such all soldiers know not only how to write and read, they already have all the theory of war, or at least the basic necessities, and as such a new soldier only lacks experience; he already knowns the whats and hows. Almost all officers came and come from the Imperial Military Academy of Paris, and all officers are required to have attended a military academy prior to becoming an officer. Most troops use double-breasted tunics, which allow for a freer and easier movement. The motto of the army is necessity before beauty, and as such, while the troops might not look the brightest, they have the most dexterity on the battlefield compared to any other foe. Equipment for infantry, cavalry, as well as artillery pieces are all made according to patterns released by the Imperial Military Academy, whose Chairman is traditionally also the Minister of Defense.
Navy: The Navy is a mostly northern domain (england), since they have a very long and strong tradition of naval prowess. Due to the naval arms race the United Empire has found itself with with its german and celtic neighbor, the navy has seen its numbers grow almost through the roof, and steam ships become more and more a common sight in the Channel. The channel has been traditionally the backyard of the United Empire, and so most of it is full of ports, collectively known as the Channel Arsenal. There are 66 Ships in the Navy at the moment, albeit it is planned by the end of the 1850s to reach the number of 100. The navy is in a good condition, now more than ever, due to the new german and celtic threats.
Economic Strength: The United Empire has been since its beginning one of if not the strongest nation in Europe. Even if after the revolution it had to pay major reparations to the other countries of the continent, this has in turned made the franco-saxons work even more, to prove that their nation is not done, and is still strong. The United Empire has one of the biggest industries in the world at the moment, centered in france around the so called Axis of Paris-Strasbourg-Calais, in England in the North and in London, and in Arragon around the line of Barcelona-Zaragoza. The Economy of the United Empire is one of the cornerstones of the free-market economies of the world, and without it, the world would probably shaken to its very core.
Infrastructure: The Infrastructure of the United Empire is in good shape, thanks to the Rebuilding Period following the Revolution which was planned by one of the most important prime ministers of the country, the great Bernard de Neuville. Roads connect the entire country, and they all lead to Paris. Ports connect all the key cities of the Empire in Europe and around the world, while the Channel is a hub of industry and naval activity that from Hot-air Balloons at night is described as a giant city that never sleeps. Cities are constantly expanded, while old buildings are either rebuilt, repaid or demolished due to the disaster of 1848 that brought to attention the pathetic state of the parisien buildings.
Scientific Research and Development: The Academy of Natural Philosophy established by Marianne Plantagenet in 1670 in Southampton is one of the most important academies of science around the planet, and has produced the inventions of steam, as well as the theories of Gravity and of Sociology (which is a science). It deals with a wide range of subjects, and it has been the spearhead of European Research in many domains of science. Due to the secularist empiricist mentality of the Empire, scientists and people interested in such subjects can always consider the United Empire a sanctuary for the enlightened.
Primary Goals: While the Plantagenets were removed from power, the expansion of Napoleon and his general desire to expand franco-saxon culture across europe and unite Europe has been shared by the Plantagenet family for a long time, proven by their constant territorial expansion through either conquest or marriage. As such, it is their dream that of an united Europe, with a united culture around the franco-saxon culture, under the ever-expanding United Empire.
History: Will be posted ASAP.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=348974&p=25532046#p25532046
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For: Things I say
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Future writer and publisher of Fifty Shades of Empire
I support insanely high tax rates, do you?
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Cabana
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Postby Cabana » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:00 am

Sanabel wrote:
Vicavian Empire wrote:isn't the meeting supposed to decide Australia and Africa?

Yes. Those two continents.

Shit I thought it was just for Africa, I'll edit that right now.
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-Vladimir Lenin was married to Reagan's wife. Make of that what you will.
come on and slam
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Caraani
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Postby Caraani » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:01 am

I would like to know if my app is ok 'till this point. If it is, I will then post the history. Wouldn't like to write a 3 hours worth of alternate history only to find out my app isn't ok.
For: Things I say
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Future writer and publisher of Fifty Shades of Empire
I support insanely high tax rates, do you?
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Cabana
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Postby Cabana » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:02 am

Caraani wrote:I would like to know if my app is ok 'till this point. If it is, I will then post the history. Wouldn't like to write a 3 hours worth of alternate history only to find out my app isn't ok.

I thought the Saxons were already extinct?
Post-Sarcastic Gnostic Anarcho-Fascist
Bezombia wrote:-Reagan was a Pastafarian and had statues of Cthulhu in his bed every night.
-Vladimir Lenin was married to Reagan's wife. Make of that what you will.
come on and slam
Only results! This world only remembers the results!

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:04 am

Caraani wrote:Full Nation Name: The United Empire of France, England, Arragon and Sicily.
Short Nation Name: The United Empire/France/The French Empire
National Flag: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Union-of-Britannia-a-France-481749763
Territory: (On Home Continent) (Image)
: France (without much of Brittany, and with parts of Switzerland), Arragon, England, Corsica, Sicily, Malta.
Colonies: (If Any) The Caribbean colonies which were IRL colonies of France and England; Algeria; Tunisia; Part of Cameroon; The Atlantic Ocean Islands IRL possessions of Britain; Guyana; Southern Florida (evolved from the Nouvelle-France Floridienne, even if most of the original colony was lost); The Maldives; Madagascar; Parts of Australia (Claim on all of it); New Zealand; New Caledonia; Part of the IRL Indian Kingdom of Orissa (has plans to expand into all of India, claims north-eastern part of India).
Client States: (If Any) None.
Official Language(s): Franco-Saxon (Known as Normand, it is a French dialect similar to that spoken in Normandy, with a lot of words and influence from old English)
Form of Government: Constitutional Monarchy (Officially; the Emperor still holds a lot of power)
Head of State: Emperor Charles IX Plantagenet
Head of Government: Prime Minister Alexander Stuart
Capital City: Officially Paris (where the Emperor resides); de facto London, seat of the Government.
Population: 54 Million (European Population). 57 with the colonies.
Ethnicities: Franco-Saxon (French and English people no longer exist; they are called Franco-Saxon), Catalonians, Sicilians, Maltese, Germans (Alsace-Lorraine), italians (Valle d'Aoste/Niece), Celts (in England and Northern France), Spanish (In Arragon), Ligurians in Corsica; colonies: Algerian, Tunisian, Central African ethnicities, Malagasy, Orissan, (whatever ethnicity there is in Maldives), Australian Natives, American Natives, Creole, Caribbean Natives, Afro-Americans, Maori, Pacific Natives.
Culture: (describe your nation's primary culture, and accepted/other cultures within your nation) The Primary Culture in the United Empire is Franco-Saxon, which has evolved from a mixture of French and Saxon/English culture, as well as Southern French. Accepted culture (albeit under pressure to integrate) are Catalonian, Sicilian(Southern Italian) and Piedmontese (in Valle d'Aoste and Niece, where they have special rights).
Religion: (state the situation of the church within your nation) The United Empire has been Catholic since its inception, however there is a significant Calvinist (Hugonotte) minority in Southern France and in England, due to the relative tolerance they have enjoyed under the Plantagenets. Religion has become a rather private and taboo matter after the revolution, and the state is now secular, as it should be.
Army: The Army has 1.2 million men. Following the reforms of the army after the disaster of 1848, now most soldiers serve only a few years with the regulars before passing into the reserves. The payment has also been increased to 2 franks per day, and rations of food have been made a must for any soldier, even if food itself is not that great, the Franco-Saxon troops are still the best fed in Europe. There have been military schools since before the revolution, however in the 1840s it was made a requirement for a soldier to have a basic degree of studies before joining the army, as such all soldiers know not only how to write and read, they already have all the theory of war, or at least the basic necessities, and as such a new soldier only lacks experience; he already knowns the whats and hows. Almost all officers came and come from the Imperial Military Academy of Paris, and all officers are required to have attended a military academy prior to becoming an officer. Most troops use double-breasted tunics, which allow for a freer and easier movement. The motto of the army is necessity before beauty, and as such, while the troops might not look the brightest, they have the most dexterity on the battlefield compared to any other foe. Equipment for infantry, cavalry, as well as artillery pieces are all made according to patterns released by the Imperial Military Academy, whose Chairman is traditionally also the Minister of Defense.
Navy: The Navy is a mostly northern domain (england), since they have a very long and strong tradition of naval prowess. Due to the naval arms race the United Empire has found itself with with its german and celtic neighbor, the navy has seen its numbers grow almost through the roof, and steam ships become more and more a common sight in the Channel. The channel has been traditionally the backyard of the United Empire, and so most of it is full of ports, collectively known as the Channel Arsenal. There are 66 Ships in the Navy at the moment, albeit it is planned by the end of the 1850s to reach the number of 100. The navy is in a good condition, now more than ever, due to the new german and celtic threats.
Economic Strength: The United Empire has been since its beginning one of if not the strongest nation in Europe. Even if after the revolution it had to pay major reparations to the other countries of the continent, this has in turned made the franco-saxons work even more, to prove that their nation is not done, and is still strong. The United Empire has one of the biggest industries in the world at the moment, centered in france around the so called Axis of Paris-Strasbourg-Calais, in England in the North and in London, and in Arragon around the line of Barcelona-Zaragoza. The Economy of the United Empire is one of the cornerstones of the free-market economies of the world, and without it, the world would probably shaken to its very core.
Infrastructure: The Infrastructure of the United Empire is in good shape, thanks to the Rebuilding Period following the Revolution which was planned by one of the most important prime ministers of the country, the great Bernard de Neuville. Roads connect the entire country, and they all lead to Paris. Ports connect all the key cities of the Empire in Europe and around the world, while the Channel is a hub of industry and naval activity that from Hot-air Balloons at night is described as a giant city that never sleeps. Cities are constantly expanded, while old buildings are either rebuilt, repaid or demolished due to the disaster of 1848 that brought to attention the pathetic state of the parisien buildings.
Scientific Research and Development: The Academy of Natural Philosophy established by Marianne Plantagenet in 1670 in Southampton is one of the most important academies of science around the planet, and has produced the inventions of steam, as well as the theories of Gravity and of Sociology (which is a science). It deals with a wide range of subjects, and it has been the spearhead of European Research in many domains of science. Due to the secularist empiricist mentality of the Empire, scientists and people interested in such subjects can always consider the United Empire a sanctuary for the enlightened.
Primary Goals: While the Plantagenets were removed from power, the expansion of Napoleon and his general desire to expand franco-saxon culture across europe and unite Europe has been shared by the Plantagenet family for a long time, proven by their constant territorial expansion through either conquest or marriage. As such, it is their dream that of an united Europe, with a united culture around the franco-saxon culture, under the ever-expanding United Empire.
History: Will be posted ASAP.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=348974&p=25532046#p25532046
1337

Denied for the moment. Australia + New Zealand are being split at the upcoming conference, so you can press claims then. Same with Africa I'm afraid. Your other colonies may work. Also if you could give a rough idea of how England and France united, it'd be appreciated.

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Caraani
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Postby Caraani » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:06 am

Cabana wrote:
Caraani wrote:I would like to know if my app is ok 'till this point. If it is, I will then post the history. Wouldn't like to write a 3 hours worth of alternate history only to find out my app isn't ok.

I thought the Saxons were already extinct?

They were/are. It's all a charade. The normand name too. In truth they still are French, with some English influences. But it is an insistent term that became a fact, by constantly being repeated by the Plantagenets and their ministers, to themselves, the people, and foreign dignitaries. English people are considered extinct, and if they were to understand that they still exist, and that they aren't ''franco-saxon'', then, that would be a problem for the Plantagenet that they do not want to have. So they just keep the gig up, and hope for the best.
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Sino nations
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Postby Sino nations » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:07 am

Do you reckon paragraph as 3-4 sentences.
For Soviet Republics of Sino nations!
Fight against enemy of people!
Põlvamaa: Rohelisem Elu!
Left-Winger From Estonia!
Not Chinese
Pro:Communism,USSR,MGTOW,Freedom to offend,Colonization(Stability In Africa was created by Colonization)
Anti:Feminism,Nazism,USA,Russian Federation,UK,EU,Anime,Bronies,Furries

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Postby New Rnclave » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:09 am

Someone should do a Dual Kingdom of England and France
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As if that gives you an excuse to live.

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Cabana
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Postby Cabana » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:10 am

New Rnclave wrote:Someone should do a Dual Kingdom of England and France

Isn't that Charani's app?
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Bezombia wrote:-Reagan was a Pastafarian and had statues of Cthulhu in his bed every night.
-Vladimir Lenin was married to Reagan's wife. Make of that what you will.
come on and slam
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New Rnclave
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Postby New Rnclave » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:11 am

Cabana wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:Someone should do a Dual Kingdom of England and France

Isn't that Charani's app?


No. It'd be by chance, England and France having the same monarch, and being in a union I suppose.
Finland SSR wrote: Sex is a form of competitive martial arts, after all.
What don't you understand? I CAN'T DIE!
As if that gives you an excuse to live.

In the end, there is light in the darkness

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The Ik Ka Ek Akai
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:14 am

New Rnclave wrote:
Cabana wrote:Isn't that Charani's app?


No. It'd be by chance, England and France having the same monarch, and being in a union I suppose.


I love medieval politics for the simple fact that the king of England was a French vassal, but England was an independent kingdom.

Thanks Williame de Normandie

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Postby New Rnclave » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:15 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
No. It'd be by chance, England and France having the same monarch, and being in a union I suppose.


I love medieval politics for the simple fact that the king of England was a French vassal, but England was an independent kingdom.

Thanks Williame de Normandie


That's what'd it be technically :p
Finland SSR wrote: Sex is a form of competitive martial arts, after all.
What don't you understand? I CAN'T DIE!
As if that gives you an excuse to live.

In the end, there is light in the darkness

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:16 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
No. It'd be by chance, England and France having the same monarch, and being in a union I suppose.


I love medieval politics for the simple fact that the king of England was a French vassal, but England was an independent kingdom.

Thanks Williame de Normandie

Then the 116 year long 100 Year War, what a war that was.

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The Ik Ka Ek Akai
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:16 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
I love medieval politics for the simple fact that the king of England was a French vassal, but England was an independent kingdom.

Thanks Williame de Normandie

Then the 116 year long 100 Year War, what a war that was.


Started in Leet, the year of our lord.

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Postby Sino nations » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:18 am

Official Name of your Rebel Group:The Free Estonian Movement
Short/Other Names of your Rebel Group:Free Estonia,FEM
Country that you are rebelling in:Estonia
Base of Operations:Põlva
Number of Followers/Members:690,000
Why you are rebelling:FOR ESTONIA! DESTROY OCCUPANTS.
Popular support:Very Popular, due to the idea of indenpendence
Quality of Weapons, from 1 to 10:5
Suppliers:We make our own, plus civilians
Brief History of Rebel Group:Emerged in 1836, ever since gaing support.
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Sino nations wrote:In Tartu, Tallinn, Põlva And Haapsalu, Estonian Revolutionaries Have Started Complete Rise Up. Põlvan Railroads Have Been Attacked. Across Other Estonian Parts, Commands Of War Are Soon to be Given. Latvian Revolutianaries And Estonian Freedom Movement Have To Co-operate To Clear USSR from Baltic Nations. Port Of Tallinn Is Heavely Bombarded By Former Nazi Planes Used In Estonia.
(Image) Port Of Tallinn







OOC:If You Think This Is Godmodding,We Have Not Seized Any Areas Yet.We Have Only Attacked




Note:this is being reposted due to the Burial.



1337 - Please do not remove


P.S:I want to give in symbolism.Can i give it(Symbolism of FEM)?
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For Soviet Republics of Sino nations!
Fight against enemy of people!
Põlvamaa: Rohelisem Elu!
Left-Winger From Estonia!
Not Chinese
Pro:Communism,USSR,MGTOW,Freedom to offend,Colonization(Stability In Africa was created by Colonization)
Anti:Feminism,Nazism,USA,Russian Federation,UK,EU,Anime,Bronies,Furries

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Caraani
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Caraani » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:18 am

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Caraani wrote:Full Nation Name: The United Empire of France, England, Arragon and Sicily.
Short Nation Name: The United Empire/France/The French Empire
National Flag: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Union-of-Britannia-a-France-481749763
Territory: (On Home Continent) (Image)
: France (without much of Brittany, and with parts of Switzerland), Arragon, England, Corsica, Sicily, Malta.
Colonies: (If Any) The Caribbean colonies which were IRL colonies of France and England; Algeria; Tunisia; Part of Cameroon; The Atlantic Ocean Islands IRL possessions of Britain; Guyana; Southern Florida (evolved from the Nouvelle-France Floridienne, even if most of the original colony was lost); The Maldives; Madagascar; Parts of Australia (Claim on all of it); New Zealand; New Caledonia; Part of the IRL Indian Kingdom of Orissa (has plans to expand into all of India, claims north-eastern part of India).
Client States: (If Any) None.
Official Language(s): Franco-Saxon (Known as Normand, it is a French dialect similar to that spoken in Normandy, with a lot of words and influence from old English)
Form of Government: Constitutional Monarchy (Officially; the Emperor still holds a lot of power)
Head of State: Emperor Charles IX Plantagenet
Head of Government: Prime Minister Alexander Stuart
Capital City: Officially Paris (where the Emperor resides); de facto London, seat of the Government.
Population: 54 Million (European Population). 57 with the colonies.
Ethnicities: Franco-Saxon (French and English people no longer exist; they are called Franco-Saxon), Catalonians, Sicilians, Maltese, Germans (Alsace-Lorraine), italians (Valle d'Aoste/Niece), Celts (in England and Northern France), Spanish (In Arragon), Ligurians in Corsica; colonies: Algerian, Tunisian, Central African ethnicities, Malagasy, Orissan, (whatever ethnicity there is in Maldives), Australian Natives, American Natives, Creole, Caribbean Natives, Afro-Americans, Maori, Pacific Natives.
Culture: (describe your nation's primary culture, and accepted/other cultures within your nation) The Primary Culture in the United Empire is Franco-Saxon, which has evolved from a mixture of French and Saxon/English culture, as well as Southern French. Accepted culture (albeit under pressure to integrate) are Catalonian, Sicilian(Southern Italian) and Piedmontese (in Valle d'Aoste and Niece, where they have special rights).
Religion: (state the situation of the church within your nation) The United Empire has been Catholic since its inception, however there is a significant Calvinist (Hugonotte) minority in Southern France and in England, due to the relative tolerance they have enjoyed under the Plantagenets. Religion has become a rather private and taboo matter after the revolution, and the state is now secular, as it should be.
Army: The Army has 1.2 million men. Following the reforms of the army after the disaster of 1848, now most soldiers serve only a few years with the regulars before passing into the reserves. The payment has also been increased to 2 franks per day, and rations of food have been made a must for any soldier, even if food itself is not that great, the Franco-Saxon troops are still the best fed in Europe. There have been military schools since before the revolution, however in the 1840s it was made a requirement for a soldier to have a basic degree of studies before joining the army, as such all soldiers know not only how to write and read, they already have all the theory of war, or at least the basic necessities, and as such a new soldier only lacks experience; he already knowns the whats and hows. Almost all officers came and come from the Imperial Military Academy of Paris, and all officers are required to have attended a military academy prior to becoming an officer. Most troops use double-breasted tunics, which allow for a freer and easier movement. The motto of the army is necessity before beauty, and as such, while the troops might not look the brightest, they have the most dexterity on the battlefield compared to any other foe. Equipment for infantry, cavalry, as well as artillery pieces are all made according to patterns released by the Imperial Military Academy, whose Chairman is traditionally also the Minister of Defense.
Navy: The Navy is a mostly northern domain (england), since they have a very long and strong tradition of naval prowess. Due to the naval arms race the United Empire has found itself with with its german and celtic neighbor, the navy has seen its numbers grow almost through the roof, and steam ships become more and more a common sight in the Channel. The channel has been traditionally the backyard of the United Empire, and so most of it is full of ports, collectively known as the Channel Arsenal. There are 66 Ships in the Navy at the moment, albeit it is planned by the end of the 1850s to reach the number of 100. The navy is in a good condition, now more than ever, due to the new german and celtic threats.
Economic Strength: The United Empire has been since its beginning one of if not the strongest nation in Europe. Even if after the revolution it had to pay major reparations to the other countries of the continent, this has in turned made the franco-saxons work even more, to prove that their nation is not done, and is still strong. The United Empire has one of the biggest industries in the world at the moment, centered in france around the so called Axis of Paris-Strasbourg-Calais, in England in the North and in London, and in Arragon around the line of Barcelona-Zaragoza. The Economy of the United Empire is one of the cornerstones of the free-market economies of the world, and without it, the world would probably shaken to its very core.
Infrastructure: The Infrastructure of the United Empire is in good shape, thanks to the Rebuilding Period following the Revolution which was planned by one of the most important prime ministers of the country, the great Bernard de Neuville. Roads connect the entire country, and they all lead to Paris. Ports connect all the key cities of the Empire in Europe and around the world, while the Channel is a hub of industry and naval activity that from Hot-air Balloons at night is described as a giant city that never sleeps. Cities are constantly expanded, while old buildings are either rebuilt, repaid or demolished due to the disaster of 1848 that brought to attention the pathetic state of the parisien buildings.
Scientific Research and Development: The Academy of Natural Philosophy established by Marianne Plantagenet in 1670 in Southampton is one of the most important academies of science around the planet, and has produced the inventions of steam, as well as the theories of Gravity and of Sociology (which is a science). It deals with a wide range of subjects, and it has been the spearhead of European Research in many domains of science. Due to the secularist empiricist mentality of the Empire, scientists and people interested in such subjects can always consider the United Empire a sanctuary for the enlightened.
Primary Goals: While the Plantagenets were removed from power, the expansion of Napoleon and his general desire to expand franco-saxon culture across europe and unite Europe has been shared by the Plantagenet family for a long time, proven by their constant territorial expansion through either conquest or marriage. As such, it is their dream that of an united Europe, with a united culture around the franco-saxon culture, under the ever-expanding United Empire.
History: Will be posted ASAP.
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Denied for the moment. Australia + New Zealand are being split at the upcoming conference, so you can press claims then. Same with Africa I'm afraid. Your other colonies may work. Also if you could give a rough idea of how England and France united, it'd be appreciated.


I will remove my colonies in Africa and Australia. Could I bargain my way into keeping New Zealand? The IRL brits already had knowledge of it by the turn of the century, and owned it entirely in 1850s.
Anyways, the history in this universe goes that after the Normans managed to conquer England, when Roger de Montgomerie was offered the Title of Earl of Shrewsbury by William, Henry I Capet offered him in secret to be made Duke of England and Normandy, in exchange for backstabbing William (De facto Henry's vassal, but de jure a king in his own right). With the help of the ''Earl of Shrewsbury'', the French managed to land an army in england, and at the battle of Gloucester, William was Killed, and the English Kingdom fell into anarchy. in 1074 the Kingdom of England was declared a possession of the Capet Dynasty, which were now kings of France and of England. The Rising Roger was poisoned soon after, and the Normandy duchy went to his youngest son, while the English duchy went to his eldest. Backed by the king, the eldest son declared war against his brother, and at Dorchester killed him in battle. After the battle was over, the king declared that the eldest son, Orland de Montgomerie broke the peace treaty made with William, to which all vassals (including Roger, his father) agreed to, and so he confiscated the duchy of England. Orland did not accept this treachery, and declared a new English Kingdom. After initial success, he was defeated, and so the Capet dynasty finally had full control of England. I wanted to include it into the history part.
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Postby Caraani » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:19 am

New Rnclave wrote:
Cabana wrote:Isn't that Charani's app?


No. It'd be by chance, England and France having the same monarch, and being in a union I suppose.

It is a dual Monarchy indeed. And not ANY dual monarchy, a -drums- United Empire.
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Postby Elderowa » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:20 am

Quick Question on New Zealand; are the Maori more or less Powerful? The British don't have Australia, but it's still possible the Maori got weapons from the Hanseatic League, Korea, China, Siam, the Dutch and other European Merchants who frequent the area. What of the Musket Wars?

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