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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:53 am

Ameriganastan wrote:I've never had an RP succeed. I either never get a sign up or the thing flames out after a couple of pages,


Flame out due to flaming, or just lack of investment?

I think I'm at 200 odd RPs created at the moment, and two completed.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:59 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Flame out due to flaming, or just lack of investment?

Flame out because I'm terrible at running them. I suck at planning a story out, so I just make it up as I go. And eventually I run out of ideas to keep it going and just give up.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:14 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Flame out due to flaming, or just lack of investment?

Flame out because I'm terrible at running them. I suck at planning a story out, so I just make it up as I go. And eventually I run out of ideas to keep it going and just give up.


Hm. Were you ever part of NEI or Olthar's dice RPs? You might want to try something like that. They rely very much on creative player input, so more of the impetus is put on who you select to be part of the RP and your ability to play along with them than any grand overarching story.
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Postby Dayganistan » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:41 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:I think I'm at 200 odd RPs created at the moment, and two completed.

That actually kind of helps with me posting an RP. Especially considering people have probably spent far more time than me on an OP only to never get any interest. Most RPs are going to fizzle out and I think once you accept that it makes it easier.
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Nejii
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Postby Nejii » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:55 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I've never had an RP succeed. I either never get a sign up or the thing flames out after a couple of pages,


Flame out due to flaming, or just lack of investment?

I think I'm at 200 odd RPs created at the moment, and two completed.


That is oddly relieving to hear.

I’m also a member of two other RP websites and I’m constantly seeing these chummy musings about veteran members about their seemingly finished RP’s over the years. I always assumed I was a bad writer or a lackluster OP.
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Postby Galnius » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:16 pm

Nejii wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Flame out due to flaming, or just lack of investment?

I think I'm at 200 odd RPs created at the moment, and two completed.


That is oddly relieving to hear.

I’m also a member of two other RP websites and I’m constantly seeing these chummy musings about veteran members about their seemingly finished RP’s over the years. I always assumed I was a bad writer or a lackluster OP.

Nah the only ways rps fully finish is by either finding one hell of a good crew on complete accident or having the rp in sections, where finishing one finishes that rp and just moved into the sequel.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:17 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Flame out because I'm terrible at running them. I suck at planning a story out, so I just make it up as I go. And eventually I run out of ideas to keep it going and just give up.


Hm. Were you ever part of NEI or Olthar's dice RPs? You might want to try something like that. They rely very much on creative player input, so more of the impetus is put on who you select to be part of the RP and your ability to play along with them than any grand overarching story.

I was in a dice RP once. Didn't care for it. Me and the OP got into a fight over him damaging my character in what amounted to a cutscene and he kicked me out.
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Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Greater Socialist Albania » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:30 pm

No cyberpunk rp?

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Postby Runr Theratasisio » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:46 pm

What is this?

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Postby Talchyon » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:09 pm

Runr Theratasisio wrote:What is this?


This is a place to network, get ideas, ask for advice, and just in general speak about RP matters with other players and OPs.
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Postby Galnius » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:52 pm

Talchyon wrote:
Runr Theratasisio wrote:What is this?


This is a place to network, get ideas, ask for advice, and just in general speak about RP matters with other players and OPs.

I believe this used to be done in traveller's, back when nightkill was around
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:54 pm

Galnius wrote:
Talchyon wrote:
This is a place to network, get ideas, ask for advice, and just in general speak about RP matters with other players and OPs.

I believe this used to be done in traveller's, back when nightkill was around

Ugh, Nightkill. Don't miss that guy.
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Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Galnius » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:56 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Galnius wrote:I believe this used to be done in traveller's, back when nightkill was around

Ugh, Nightkill. Don't miss that guy.

Never had an issue with him.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:58 pm

Galnius wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Ugh, Nightkill. Don't miss that guy.

Never had an issue with him.

I had quite a few issues with him. Namely that he was always hounding my ass if I dared criticize a plot point, while allowing a guy who deleted 50 of his posts during a hissy fit back in like he never did anything.

Also, quite frankly, he was a bad OP. Allowed way too much one-lining.
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DENVER BRONCOS fan
Eric Lumen: Ultimate Chad
Force of nature.
The Ameri Train.
The Ameri song
Tsundere Ameri.
HulkAmeri
Ameri goes to court.
Universal Constant
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Galnius » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:12 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Galnius wrote:Never had an issue with him.

I had quite a few issues with him. Namely that he was always hounding my ass if I dared criticize a plot point, while allowing a guy who deleted 50 of his posts during a hissy fit back in like he never did anything.

Also, quite frankly, he was a bad OP. Allowed way too much one-lining.

See I was only in his die rolling rp. Was fun. Not as fun as mafia.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:04 am

Galnius wrote:Nah the only ways rps fully finish is by either finding one hell of a good crew on complete accident or having the rp in sections, where finishing one finishes that rp and just moved into the sequel.

Or you have a mechanics-based RP with rules that clearly defines when the RP ends.

The big problem with finishing freeform RPs - and you hinted at it with your mention of cutting the plot into sections - is that they kind of go on until they die. Since they have no end condition except “the RP burns out”, they are guaranteed to end by burning out.

If one intends to properly finish RPs, which I don’t really care about but I’m aware that other people do, one should always keep in mind at what point the RP would be considered finished and move towards it.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:15 am

Galnius wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I had quite a few issues with him. Namely that he was always hounding my ass if I dared criticize a plot point, while allowing a guy who deleted 50 of his posts during a hissy fit back in like he never did anything.

Also, quite frankly, he was a bad OP. Allowed way too much one-lining.

See I was only in his die rolling rp. Was fun. Not as fun as mafia.

I was in Elfen High and A World Beyond. They ran for ages, so I kind of got to know how jerky he could get.
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The Ameri Train.
The Ameri song
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Universal Constant
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Grenartia » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:18 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Galnius wrote:See I was only in his die rolling rp. Was fun. Not as fun as mafia.

I was in Elfen High and A World Beyond. They ran for ages, so I kind of got to know how jerky he could get.


I knew him back when he was a noob. I'm not going to say he was never a jerk, and hell, he'd probably outright admit it, but in my personal experience, he was generally a cool guy. I've only ever seen him be a jerk when someone deserved it. Not going to say you did deserve it, because I legit don't know, just that all I ever saw of him being close to being a jerk was to unambiguous jerks.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:58 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Galnius wrote:Nah the only ways rps fully finish is by either finding one hell of a good crew on complete accident or having the rp in sections, where finishing one finishes that rp and just moved into the sequel.

Or you have a mechanics-based RP with rules that clearly defines when the RP ends.

The big problem with finishing freeform RPs - and you hinted at it with your mention of cutting the plot into sections - is that they kind of go on until they die. Since they have no end condition except “the RP burns out”, they are guaranteed to end by burning out.

If one intends to properly finish RPs, which I don’t really care about but I’m aware that other people do, one should always keep in mind at what point the RP would be considered finished and move towards it.


Precisely why 50% of my finished RPs were mechanics-based :P
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Postby Dayganistan » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:57 am

Worst fears confirmed. Posted an RP, gets bumped off the first page within 24 hours with not so much as a tag. Seems like I wasted my effort.
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Postby Galnius » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:09 pm

Dayganistan wrote:Worst fears confirmed. Posted an RP, gets bumped off the first page within 24 hours with not so much as a tag. Seems like I wasted my effort.

So one thing i do is I'll tg people I've rpd with in the past or people i know. I haven't made an rp in a while but that's how i go about it.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:15 pm

Dayganistan wrote:Worst fears confirmed. Posted an RP, gets bumped off the first page within 24 hours with not so much as a tag. Seems like I wasted my effort.

It happens. Especially to me.
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Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity

Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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Postby Dayganistan » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:26 pm

Galnius wrote:
Dayganistan wrote:Worst fears confirmed. Posted an RP, gets bumped off the first page within 24 hours with not so much as a tag. Seems like I wasted my effort.

So one thing i do is I'll tg people I've rpd with in the past or people i know. I haven't made an rp in a while but that's how i go about it.

This is difficult for me. I don't really have any people I've participated in an RP with that might recognize me. I don't want to be "that guy" who messages random people to get them to participate in an RP.
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Talchyon
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Talchyon » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:28 pm

Dayganistan wrote:Worst fears confirmed. Posted an RP, gets bumped off the first page within 24 hours with not so much as a tag. Seems like I wasted my effort.


I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. Christmas break is usually a bad time to get consistency. And/or interest. Lots of people are traveling, seeing family, maybe doing some last minute shopping or more. Don't write your RP off yet.
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Postby Dayganistan » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:54 am

My RP got some traction at least. But I'm still not particularly happy with how it's going.
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A secular, Tajik dominated state in Central Asia which has experienced 40 years of democratic backsliding. NS stats are NOT used.

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