[P2TM Chat] The Restaurant at the End of the Multiverse III

[Kyrusia]

Then how on earth are the community supposed to collect evidence if we can't see the evidence locker? You can't take the word of someone having a GHR filed against them.

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We're done here. Continuation will be treated as threadjacking.

[Constaniana]

-You are definitely correct on the Discord point. I suppose it lets folks be more chatty without worrying about spam.
-I can't give my opinion on overall activity since I rarely venture out of my pre established hobbit holes on here, but one reason for decline would be school being back in full force, and it's the workweek (disregard if you were observing P2TM over the weekend as well)
-time to ironically start up a good ol' fashioned magical academy RP ( ͡° ͜V ͡°)

How long have you been gone, btw?

I've been mostly gone since 2013, with a few brief adventures back in. Honestly it's kinda surprising how much it's stayed the same!

The Discord thing is kinda annoying cause it makes it harder to find threads with good, alive, fun OOC threads! I miss old OOC threads, they could be great fun, even if a bit too chatty at times.

I haven't been observing very long, just the last few days. The summer part would definitely make sense for why there seems to be so much less than before, cause I'm comparing it to an average activity level over a couple years.

How long have you been around? Notice any trends?

Now that's a long sabbatical haha. I know what you mean about chatty old OOC. The main RP that kept me on this forum, Elfen High, revelled in that. I started non-NS RP in the summer of '12; the first RP I participated in was one of the last to be held on F7. The IC fell to the autoprune after it died, but the OOC clung on long enough to be buried in P2TM. It would be on one of the last pages of the forum if some random fool hadn't grave dug it. I took a break from early 2016-2018 when I was serving as a missionary for my church (I'm Mormon), and I've been semi-active since I got back in January last year. I'm not sure about trends now, but the main trends I remember folks whinging about were when the forum was swamped in high school RPs and anything involving zombies.

[Ameriganastan]

Now that's a long sabbatical haha. I know what you mean about chatty old OOC. The main RP that kept me on this forum, Elfen High, revelled in that.

Not always for the better. So much drama in that OOC...

[Sammuramat]

Now that's a long sabbatical haha. I know what you mean about chatty old OOC. The main RP that kept me on this forum, Elfen High, revelled in that.

Not always for the better. So much drama in that OOC...

I remember occasionally reading the Elfen High OOC, even though I wasn't involved cause I was way too in awe of how big and impressive the posts there were. It did look awfully fun

[Ameriganastan]

Not always for the better. So much drama in that OOC...

I remember occasionally reading the Elfen High OOC, even though I wasn't involved cause I was way too in awe of how big and impressive the posts there were. It did look awfully fun

You know, there's another awfully fun RP called Elementals that needs some new blood. Run by Constaniana up there. Just throwing that out there...

[Constaniana]

Now that's a long sabbatical haha. I know what you mean about chatty old OOC. The main RP that kept me on this forum, Elfen High, revelled in that.

Not always for the better. So much drama in that OOC...

Most of us being high schoolers probably didn't help.

Not always for the better. So much drama in that OOC...

I remember occasionally reading the Elfen High OOC, even though I wasn't involved cause I was way too in awe of how big and impressive the posts there were. It did look awfully fun

It was built on the backs of a thousand dick jokes.

I remember occasionally reading the Elfen High OOC, even though I wasn't involved cause I was way too in awe of how big and impressive the posts there were. It did look awfully fun

You know, there's another awfully fun RP called Elementals that needs some new blood. Run by Constaniana up there. Just throwing that out there...

*slips you a 100-Danethrum banknote for your services*

[Tayner]

>be told to link evidence
>evidence is in evidence locker
>can’t see evidence
>best answer is that you’re supposed to take shots in the dark with threads that have had deleted posts and hope admins see what you remember seeing instead of being allowed to present specific and actionable evidence
>warn/ban anyone who asks any questions or has any concerns

God I love democracy.

[Ameriganastan]

Not always for the better. So much drama in that OOC...

Most of us being high schoolers probably didn't help.

One of us (Me) not being on his meds yet probably didn't help either.

[Kyrusia]

God I love democracy.

Tayner: Moderators aren't elected officials, and the FAQ outright states that free speech doesn't exist on this site. *** Warning for threadjacking. ***

[G-Tech Corporation]

I haven't roleplayed in quite a while, and it's interesting to look at P2TM again after several years. A few differences, in my opinion:

- OOC threads are way less alive. I think it's migrated to Discord a lot.
- there seem to be less active threads
- there are far fewer threads with just regular teenagers; also fewer with teenagers with super powers.
- also fewer nation RPs
- more realistic RPs
- more fantasy RPs with really really long descriptions in the OP!
- way more drama lol

Does this sound accurate? I'm trying to get a handle on how P2TM is doing right now, and it's interesting to look at the different trends over time. I remember back in the F7 days when there were a million Camp Half-Blood RPs... those seem to have died out now.

I would certainly agree with the first idea, and agree with the source of the issue - Discord is a really excellent way to suck life out of OOCs and even threads like the Restaurant, one of the reasons I don’t use it in any of my RPs. That probably plays into no 2 as well to a certain extent, though I would note that, in my opinion, RPs have become more time-demanding over the years. A good thing and a bad thing, really. I used to think nothing of juggling 5 RPs because I usually only put two to three paragraphs into a post, but nowadays that level of casual posting is frowned upon. Not really here nor there, just different.

[Giovenith]

I haven't roleplayed in quite a while, and it's interesting to look at P2TM again after several years. A few differences, in my opinion:

- OOC threads are way less alive. I think it's migrated to Discord a lot.

Yeah, I'm not sure that's the best thing. I think it's taken a lot of steam away from the games themselves. Sometimes restriction can be good for creativity: back when OOC threads were the main source of chatter among a friend group, they had to be careful to make their chat game-related, which in turn kept ideas and plots fresh and going. Now that socialization has been outsourced to Discord, where such restrictions don't exist, RPs have lost a lot of their fuel. People begin to see the game as a secondary chore to the chatter.

- there seem to be less active threads

Yup. See above.

- there are far fewer threads with just regular teenagers; also fewer with teenagers with super powers.

Probably because all the pioneers aren't teenagers anymore, lol.

- also fewer nation RPs
- more realistic RPs
- more fantasy RPs with really really long descriptions in the OP!

I think that's a reflection of the aforementioned age increase. Though one could argue mega-OPs aren't necessarily an improvement.

- way more drama lol

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ People need to get over silly vendettas and stop thinking being "RP famous" entitles them to anything. Same old story, different characters. It's just a game, guys.

Does this sound accurate? I'm trying to get a handle on how P2TM is doing right now, and it's interesting to look at the different trends over time. I remember back in the F7 days when there were a million Camp Half-Blood RPs... those seem to have died out now.

Heh. Yup, where everyone has got some excuse as to why their character totally can too be a daughter of Artemis!!1!

The Camp Half-Blood trend kind of split into two new trends: the god RP, and the superpower school RP. I think the closest successor was Holy High, which had a really good run (could still be going, correct me if so.)

[Giovenith]

That probably plays into no 2 as well to a certain extent, though I would note that, in my opinion, RPs have become more time-demanding over the years. A good thing and a bad thing, really. I used to think nothing of juggling 5 RPs because I usually only put two to three paragraphs into a post, but nowadays that level of casual posting is frowned upon. Not really here nor there, just different.

Sadly, I feel like P2TM'ers may have become a little too competitive and paranoid about looking like they're not taking games "seriously" enough. It started out as encouragement to separate ourselves from F7, but has morphed into a kind of creative workaholism. The fear of being labelled a glorified chill and chat thread is also a driving force behind a lot of it, I think.

[Kyrusia]

Insaeldor: Considering what you got warned for last time? *** 3-day ban for spamming/threadjacking. *** Absolutely pointless spam split.

[Talchyon]

That probably plays into no 2 as well to a certain extent, though I would note that, in my opinion, RPs have become more time-demanding over the years. A good thing and a bad thing, really. I used to think nothing of juggling 5 RPs because I usually only put two to three paragraphs into a post, but nowadays that level of casual posting is frowned upon. Not really here nor there, just different.

Sadly, I feel like P2TM'ers may have become a little too competitive and paranoid about looking like they're not taking games "seriously" enough. It started out as encouragement to separate ourselves from F7, but has morphed into a kind of creative workaholism. The fear of being labelled a glorified chill and chat thread is also a driving force behind a lot of it, I think.

That's only one of the great things about the Infinites. We never take ourselves too seriously.

[Pax Nerdvana]

I'm at a point where I have time for maybe one RP, sadly.

I've been mostly gone since 2013, with a few brief adventures back in. Honestly it's kinda surprising how much it's stayed the same!

The Discord thing is kinda annoying cause it makes it harder to find threads with good, alive, fun OOC threads! I miss old OOC threads, they could be great fun, even if a bit too chatty at times.

I haven't been observing very long, just the last few days. The summer part would definitely make sense for why there seems to be so much less than before, cause I'm comparing it to an average activity level over a couple years.

How long have you been around? Notice any trends?

Now that's a long sabbatical haha. I know what you mean about chatty old OOC. The main RP that kept me on this forum, Elfen High, revelled in that. I started non-NS RP in the summer of '12; the first RP I participated in was one of the last to be held on F7. The IC fell to the autoprune after it died, but the OOC clung on long enough to be buried in P2TM. It would be on one of the last pages of the forum if some random fool hadn't grave dug it. I took a break from early 2016-2018 when I was serving as a missionary for my church (I'm Mormon), and I've been semi-active since I got back in January last year. I'm not sure about trends now, but the main trends I remember folks whinging about were when the forum was swamped in high school RPs and anything involving zombies.

I think I remember that. There also used to be a lot of post-apocalyptic and military RPs.
I still really miss the Stories in the Forest RP that Harbertia ran. That was a lot of fun.

[Sammuramat]

That probably plays into no 2 as well to a certain extent, though I would note that, in my opinion, RPs have become more time-demanding over the years. A good thing and a bad thing, really. I used to think nothing of juggling 5 RPs because I usually only put two to three paragraphs into a post, but nowadays that level of casual posting is frowned upon. Not really here nor there, just different.

Sadly, I feel like P2TM'ers may have become a little too competitive and paranoid about looking like they're not taking games "seriously" enough. It started out as encouragement to separate ourselves from F7, but has morphed into a kind of creative workaholism. The fear of being labelled a glorified chill and chat thread is also a driving force behind a lot of it, I think.

I definitely have noticed this in the past few years. It's kinda sad to see. There seems to be a kind of roleplay segregation now that there wasn't back in 2013 when the split was fairly fresh. You have some threads where there isn't too much quality put into the writing and the posts are a few sentences, and some threads where the writing is high quality and there are ten paragraphs in every single post. Back in 2013, those would exist happily in the same thread, but the majority would be in the middle ground - effort put into them, but not too long, three or four paragraphs. These days I don't see much middle ground, though then again I may not be looking hard enough

There's an idea, I think, that long posts are automatically good, and short posts are automatically bad. But I've seen plenty of long posts that just repeat other people's posts and add very little of their own, and also a handful of short posts that were so packed with emotion that they felt like a punch in the gut.

It does make it kinda hard to find a roleplay that falls in between the two, because on one hand I enjoy RPs with well-written and detailed posts, but on the other, I don't want to read posts that have a lot of words but no substance, and then embarrass myself by only being able to write five paragraphs when everyone else has written a novel There are some that fall between the two, of course, just not in styles I enjoy right now!

- there are far fewer threads with just regular teenagers; also fewer with teenagers with super powers.

Probably because all the pioneers aren't teenagers anymore, lol.

Teenagers these days are too busy doing the Facebooks and making TokTiks for some good honest P2TM roleplay *grumbles*

The Camp Half-Blood trend kind of split into two new trends: the god RP, and the superpower school RP. I think the closest successor was Holy High, which had a really good run (could still be going, correct me if so.)

I think the superpower school RP was going for a while before the end of the Camp Half-Blood trend, though it may have contributed to the general popularity - one I was in, Super Hero High, ran from 2011 to 2015, and I think the Camp Half-Blood trend was about 2012/2013.

[Constaniana]

I'm at a point where I have time for maybe one RP, sadly.

Now that's a long sabbatical haha. I know what you mean about chatty old OOC. The main RP that kept me on this forum, Elfen High, revelled in that. I started non-NS RP in the summer of '12; the first RP I participated in was one of the last to be held on F7. The IC fell to the autoprune after it died, but the OOC clung on long enough to be buried in P2TM. It would be on one of the last pages of the forum if some random fool hadn't grave dug it. I took a break from early 2016-2018 when I was serving as a missionary for my church (I'm Mormon), and I've been semi-active since I got back in January last year. I'm not sure about trends now, but the main trends I remember folks whinging about were when the forum was swamped in high school RPs and anything involving zombies.

I think I remember that. There also used to be a lot of post-apocalyptic and military RPs.
I still really miss the Stories in the Forest RP that Harbertia ran. That was a lot of fun.

Time to craft up a post-apocalyptic magical military academy RP that trains all the impossibly attractive students to fight zombies.

Sadly, I feel like P2TM'ers may have become a little too competitive and paranoid about looking like they're not taking games "seriously" enough. It started out as encouragement to separate ourselves from F7, but has morphed into a kind of creative workaholism. The fear of being labelled a glorified chill and chat thread is also a driving force behind a lot of it, I think.

I definitely have noticed this in the past few years. It's kinda sad to see. There seems to be a kind of roleplay segregation now that there wasn't back in 2013 when the split was fairly fresh. You have some threads where there isn't too much quality put into the writing and the posts are a few sentences, and some threads where the writing is high quality and there are ten paragraphs in every single post. Back in 2013, those would exist happily in the same thread, but the majority would be in the middle ground - effort put into them, but not too long, three or four paragraphs. These days I don't see much middle ground, though then again I may not be looking hard enough

There's an idea, I think, that long posts are automatically good, and short posts are automatically bad. But I've seen plenty of long posts that just repeat other people's posts and add very little of their own, and also a handful of short posts that were so packed with emotion that they felt like a punch in the gut.

It does make it kinda hard to find a roleplay that falls in between the two, because on one hand I enjoy RPs with well-written and detailed posts, but on the other, I don't want to read posts that have a lot of words but no substance, and then embarrass myself by only being able to write five paragraphs when everyone else has written a novel There are some that fall between the two, of course, just not in styles I enjoy right now!

Probably because all the pioneers aren't teenagers anymore, lol.

Teenagers these days are too busy doing the Facebooks and making TokTiks for some good honest P2TM roleplay *grumbles*

The Camp Half-Blood trend kind of split into two new trends: the god RP, and the superpower school RP. I think the closest successor was Holy High, which had a really good run (could still be going, correct me if so.)

I think the superpower school RP was going for a while before the end of the Camp Half-Blood trend, though it may have contributed to the general popularity - one I was in, Super Hero High, ran from 2011 to 2015, and I think the Camp Half-Blood trend was about 2012/2013.

My internal pressure to write longer posts comes from being the OP and wanting to flesh out the world around the characters with lots of descriptions when I post. With regards to the long posts repeating others before them, while looking through my RP to see how we ranked on post length, I noticed sometimes the longer ones restating what happened before would come after other folks had been posting back and forth, and then someone who hadn't posted as quickly wanting to catch their character up. They don't necessarily have much for their own character to do, if it's something like making an attack in the fight scene, but if there was a bunch of other action around them then they want to give their character's internal perspective on those events.

[Pax Nerdvana]

I'm at a point where I have time for maybe one RP, sadly.
I think I remember that. There also used to be a lot of post-apocalyptic and military RPs.
I still really miss the Stories in the Forest RP that Harbertia ran. That was a lot of fun.

Time to craft up a post-apocalyptic magical military academy RP that trains all the impossibly attractive students to fight zombies.

I definitely have noticed this in the past few years. It's kinda sad to see. There seems to be a kind of roleplay segregation now that there wasn't back in 2013 when the split was fairly fresh. You have some threads where there isn't too much quality put into the writing and the posts are a few sentences, and some threads where the writing is high quality and there are ten paragraphs in every single post. Back in 2013, those would exist happily in the same thread, but the majority would be in the middle ground - effort put into them, but not too long, three or four paragraphs. These days I don't see much middle ground, though then again I may not be looking hard enough

There's an idea, I think, that long posts are automatically good, and short posts are automatically bad. But I've seen plenty of long posts that just repeat other people's posts and add very little of their own, and also a handful of short posts that were so packed with emotion that they felt like a punch in the gut.

It does make it kinda hard to find a roleplay that falls in between the two, because on one hand I enjoy RPs with well-written and detailed posts, but on the other, I don't want to read posts that have a lot of words but no substance, and then embarrass myself by only being able to write five paragraphs when everyone else has written a novel There are some that fall between the two, of course, just not in styles I enjoy right now!



Teenagers these days are too busy doing the Facebooks and making TokTiks for some good honest P2TM roleplay *grumbles*



I think the superpower school RP was going for a while before the end of the Camp Half-Blood trend, though it may have contributed to the general popularity - one I was in, Super Hero High, ran from 2011 to 2015, and I think the Camp Half-Blood trend was about 2012/2013.

My internal pressure to write longer posts comes from being the OP and wanting to flesh out the world around the characters with lots of descriptions when I post. With regards to the long posts repeating others before them, while looking through my RP to see how we ranked on post length, I noticed sometimes the longer ones restating what happened before would come after other folks had been posting back and forth, and then someone who hadn't posted as quickly wanting to catch their character up. They don't necessarily have much for their own character to do, if it's something like making an attack in the fight scene, but if there was a bunch of other action around them then they want to give their character's internal perspective on those events.

I now know someone will see this and actually make it into an RP.

[Zarkenis Ultima]

I think the superpower school RP was going for a while before the end of the Camp Half-Blood trend, though it may have contributed to the general popularity - one I was in, Super Hero High, ran from 2011 to 2015, and I think the Camp Half-Blood trend was about 2012/2013.

-perks up-

The one by Mighty Asgard?

[Sammuramat]

I think the superpower school RP was going for a while before the end of the Camp Half-Blood trend, though it may have contributed to the general popularity - one I was in, Super Hero High, ran from 2011 to 2015, and I think the Camp Half-Blood trend was about 2012/2013.

-perks up-

The one by Mighty Asgard?

Yes! I played Rachael, Roxanne and Maisie - I remember your Sarah! It was such a fun roleplay, with so many characters who developed over literally years, and a great story that had also developed over I think 3 different OPs. Plus, I definitely learned a lot, I went from embarrassingly awful roleplaying to eventually pretty decent, at least in my opinion... Good times!

[Endem]

a lot has happened

Would anyone like a free RP idea? ( I don't have time to develop OOC's so I was wondering if someone else would ha smore time than me would want to hear an idea for an RP [ yes, technically it's still probably an idea of a noob ] )

[Zarkenis Ultima]

-perks up-

The one by Mighty Asgard?

Yes! I played Rachael, Roxanne and Maisie - I remember your Sarah! It was such a fun roleplay, with so many characters who developed over literally years, and a great story that had also developed over I think 3 different OPs. Plus, I definitely learned a lot, I went from embarrassingly awful roleplaying to eventually pretty decent, at least in my opinion... Good times!

Ah, yes, I remember. One of the crew from before Mighty Asgard's attempt, then. Fancy seeing you here!

I agree, those were very fun times. Simpler roleplaying and all.

[Talchyon]

a lot has happened

Would anyone like a free RP idea? ( I don't have time to develop OOC's so I was wondering if someone else would ha smore time than me would want to hear an idea for an RP [ yes, technically it's still probably an idea of a noob ] )

What do you have in mind? (Not that I have much time either, but I get curious).

[Endem]

a lot has happened

Would anyone like a free RP idea? ( I don't have time to develop OOC's so I was wondering if someone else would ha more time than I would want to hear an idea for an RP [ yes, technically it's still probably an idea of a noob ] )

What do you have in mind? (Not that I have much time either, but I get curious).

So, I have two ideas,
1. a very realistic ( and bleak ) RP about survivors of nuclear war, were they find themselves on the ruins of their old city, with corpses littered around and outlines of those vaporized on various walls, rabid and sick animals running around, it is indicated that the civilization has collapsed.

Or

2. The eight manned mission to Mars, to search for two robots of the Ghost missions, that were supposed to map out the last parts of yet unexplored terrain on the red globe, Mars is barren and indicated to not be able to be terraformed, your mission is simple, get the robots running again, but, you might just uncover a long burrowed secret Mars held. ( this one is a combination of Sci-Fi and Horror )

[Talchyon]

What do you have in mind? (Not that I have much time either, but I get curious).

So, I have two ideas,
1. a very realistic ( and bleak ) RP about survivors of nuclear war, were they find themselves on the ruins of their old city, with corpses littered around and outlines of those vaporized on various walls, rabid and sick animals running around, it is indicated that the civilization has collapsed.

Or

2. The eight manned mission to Mars, to search for two robots of the Ghost missions, that were supposed to map out the last parts of yet unexplored terrain on the red globe, Mars is barren and indicated to not be able to be terraformed, your mission is simple, get the robots running again, but, you might just uncover a long burrowed secret Mars held. ( this one is a combination of Sci-Fi and Horror )

2nd one sounds more original and interesting to me. GL with getting help with an OOC for it.