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by G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:45 pm
Torrocca wrote:The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Ptolemy historically did not allow native Egyptians into his armies because they were seen as disloyal and too nationalistic. He was right, of course, as the Egyptians very much did not like the Ptolemies nearly as much as they liked Alexander, which is ultimately the reason the Ptolemies tried to merge their Greekness with Egyptian aspects (like creating Serapis). This may not be the only reason, but it doubtless was a contributor.
... I suppose I could use that against him?
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:45 pm
Hastiaka wrote:How long is one IC year IRL?

by The Orson Empire » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:46 pm
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Zachary Nichols wrote:OP, since I'm gonna siege naples soon, can you tell us how siege mechanics work?
You can camp outside of a city and wait it out, though it may try to fight back eventually, or you can storm the city and risk losing much more. Mind you, for the enemy to retaliate during a blockade, the soldiers will be more starved and will lose the defensive advantage of their walls. However, storming the city using siege engines can produce incredibly quicker results. Civilized peoples (non-tribal) can use a wide array of engines, including digging under the wall to collapse a portion, but the tribal and nomadic peoples are more-or-less stuck with battering rams and ladders.

by Torrocca » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:46 pm
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Torrocca wrote:
... I suppose I could use that against him?
You could cause dissent by reminding the Egyptians that Ptolemy is not as divine as Alexander. The Seleucids, contrarily, recruited significant amounts of Syrians and Persians into their army proper.
Ptolemy was a naval sort of guy. The Egyptian navy used actual Egyptians, if only because there's not enough Greeks to be rowers.
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Torrocca wrote:
... I suppose I could use that against him?
Certainly. Historically, especially during the early Ptolemaic years (when Hellenizing Egypt was still Ptolemy's objective), the Egyptians were downright restive. Ptolemy had to pay large sums to lure in Greek settlers to build polises and fill his armies with semi-loyal soldiers to keep the peace.

by Jaslandia » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:47 pm
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Jaslandia wrote:Interesting. I didn't know that.
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Basically. I have the armies, while Carthage has the money to fund those armies.
Ptolemy historically did not allow native Egyptians into his armies because they were seen as disloyal and too nationalistic. He was right, of course, as the Egyptians very much did not like the Ptolemies nearly as much as they liked Alexander, which is ultimately the reason the Ptolemies tried to merge their Greekness with Egyptian aspects (like creating Serapis). This may not be the only reason, but it doubtless was a contributor.
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Torrocca wrote:
... I suppose I could use that against him?
You could cause dissent by reminding the Egyptians that Ptolemy is not as divine as Alexander. The Seleucids, contrarily, recruited significant amounts of Syrians and Persians into their army proper.
Ptolemy was a naval sort of guy. The Egyptian navy used actual Egyptians, if only because there's not enough Greeks to be rowers.
by Togeria » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:47 pm

by G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:49 pm
Torrocca wrote:The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
You could cause dissent by reminding the Egyptians that Ptolemy is not as divine as Alexander. The Seleucids, contrarily, recruited significant amounts of Syrians and Persians into their army proper.
Ptolemy was a naval sort of guy. The Egyptian navy used actual Egyptians, if only because there's not enough Greeks to be rowers.G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Certainly. Historically, especially during the early Ptolemaic years (when Hellenizing Egypt was still Ptolemy's objective), the Egyptians were downright restive. Ptolemy had to pay large sums to lure in Greek settlers to build polises and fill his armies with semi-loyal soldiers to keep the peace.
Sweet. I can't wait for the inevitable war.
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:50 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
You can camp outside of a city and wait it out, though it may try to fight back eventually, or you can storm the city and risk losing much more. Mind you, for the enemy to retaliate during a blockade, the soldiers will be more starved and will lose the defensive advantage of their walls. However, storming the city using siege engines can produce incredibly quicker results. Civilized peoples (non-tribal) can use a wide array of engines, including digging under the wall to collapse a portion, but the tribal and nomadic peoples are more-or-less stuck with battering rams and ladders.
How do war mechanics in general work? Is it just up to the individual players?
by Togeria » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:51 pm

by G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:52 pm
Togeria wrote:So am I the only one here trying to form a new nation or is that the focus of somebody else as well?
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:53 pm
Togeria wrote:So am I the only one here trying to form a new nation or is that the focus of somebody else as well?
by Togeria » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:54 pm
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:The Orson Empire wrote:How do war mechanics in general work? Is it just up to the individual players?
Traditionally, players figure out how battles go based on simply being realistic about it. A group of 100 defending a fort on a hill against 300 people is more likely to win. What if it's against 1000 people? Well, do the defenders have modifiers? If so, they might win again, but otherwise it is not likely.
Player tactics also factor in.

by The Orson Empire » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:54 pm
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:The Orson Empire wrote:How do war mechanics in general work? Is it just up to the individual players?
Traditionally, players figure out how battles go based on simply being realistic about it. A group of 100 defending a fort on a hill against 300 people is more likely to win. What if it's against 1000 people? Well, do the defenders have modifiers? If so, they might win again, but otherwise it is not likely.
Player tactics also factor in.
Togeria wrote:So am I the only one here trying to form a new nation or is that the focus of somebody else as well?

by G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:55 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Traditionally, players figure out how battles go based on simply being realistic about it. A group of 100 defending a fort on a hill against 300 people is more likely to win. What if it's against 1000 people? Well, do the defenders have modifiers? If so, they might win again, but otherwise it is not likely.
Player tactics also factor in.
Alright.Togeria wrote:So am I the only one here trying to form a new nation or is that the focus of somebody else as well?
I'm trying to form China.
Hey G-Tech, would you be willing to make contact with the Qin? I was considering sending an expedition to India across a route that will eventually become the Silk Road.
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by Intermountain States » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:15 pm
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If you try to blame me, I will laugh in your face. I'm glad she lost. I got half my wish. :)

by Jaslandia » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:21 pm
Togeria wrote:So am I the only one here trying to form a new nation or is that the focus of somebody else as well?
Togeria wrote:I'm just trying to form Abyssinia.
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