Age of Roma: 300 BCE (OOC/Signups)

[The Flame Dawn]

I have no clue what to post XD

[Bering]

I have no clue what to post XD

You could always try world building your nation for a first post, explaining how it works or the culture perhaps.

[Hastiaka]

Mind if Carthage and Egypt become allies? Such an alliance would be OP according to some AH historians.

Perhaps. Egypt is a bit wary of Carthage at the moment, because I'm worried you'll use your resources from your conquests in Italy and Sicily to fund an invasion of Egypt, but if you have something you could offer me, I'd be willing to consider it. However, at the moment, I feel one of the Italian states would be a better ally, as I could more easily manipulate them while they're weak, and they couldn't directly challenge me unless they build a navy to invade from the sea.

We can help fund your invasion of the Seleucid Empire. But Carthage is close with Etruria. In case of war, we will be neutral. However, we can offer remedies such as letting the Egyptians lease lands (ports) in Cyprus and a visiting forces agreement.

[The Flame Dawn]

I have no clue what to post XD

You could always try world building your nation for a first post, explaining how it works or the culture perhaps.

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Have you read the IC?

I was talking about my second post.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

>Pushing to claim Cyprus
>Knowing Etruria is going to go for it later
>Disturbing paleolithic societies

My, my.

I actually didn't know that Eturia wants Cyprus. However, I really need that island base, so if it comes to it, I would be willing to challenge you for Cyprus. I have a better historical claim anyway, since Ptolemaic Egypt has tried to invade Cyprus before.

Mind if Carthage and Egypt become allies? Such an alliance would be OP according to some AH historians.

Perhaps. Egypt is a bit wary of Carthage at the moment, because I'm worried you'll use your resources from your conquests in Italy and Sicily to fund an invasion of Egypt, but if you have something you could offer me, I'd be willing to consider it. However, at the moment, I feel one of the Italian states would be a better ally, as I could more easily manipulate them while they're weak, and they couldn't directly challenge me unless they build a navy to invade from the sea.

>Calling the Jews monotheistic
>Not reading the religion map

Could you elaborate? While the Jews originally had some polytheistic tendencies, from what I've read they were quite unique in ancient times for worshiping only one god. Plus, I didn't know what 'monolatristic' meant until I just looked it up. From what I'm reading, it's a legitimate theory regarding Jewish worship in ancient times, though if it did really exist, it died out around the Babylonian captivity (long before the events of this RP).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolatri ... ent_Israel

Monolatrism was accepted by Jewish scholars into the Middle Ages, and still exists in much smaller part today. "Traditional" Judaism disappeared more or less from the increasing liberalization of the faith during more recent centuries, with the "Orthodox" variant being the only one to not liberalize, but actually regress to a state of being which Judaism never actually experienced in the past.

[Bering]

You could always try world building your nation for a first post, explaining how it works or the culture perhaps.

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Have you read the IC?

I was talking about my second post.

I've been a bit busy, so I really didn't take note of anyone not in my immediate region of the world, sorry.

[The Flame Dawn]

...

Have you read the IC?

I was talking about my second post.

I've been a bit busy, so I really didn't take note of anyone not in my immediate region of the world, sorry.

it's fine.

[Bering]

I've been a bit busy, so I really didn't take note of anyone not in my immediate region of the world, sorry.

it's fine.

But my point still stands, never a bad time for world building.

[Jaslandia]

Perhaps. Egypt is a bit wary of Carthage at the moment, because I'm worried you'll use your resources from your conquests in Italy and Sicily to fund an invasion of Egypt, but if you have something you could offer me, I'd be willing to consider it. However, at the moment, I feel one of the Italian states would be a better ally, as I could more easily manipulate them while they're weak, and they couldn't directly challenge me unless they build a navy to invade from the sea.

We can help fund your invasion of the Seleucid Empire. But Carthage is close with Etruria. In case of war, we will be neutral. However, we can offer remedies such as letting the Egyptians lease lands (ports) in Cyprus and a visiting forces agreement.

An interesting offer, but Ptolemy I is prideful, and will settle for nothing less than complete control of Cyprus. However, funding future military conquests is an interesting idea, since Carthage is a much more mercantile nation than Egypt, and assuming we can reach some sort of territory division agreement (say, I get the right to control the eastern Mediterranean and the surrounding lands, while you get to claim the western Mediterranean and everything west of Greece), then it could work out.

I actually didn't know that Eturia wants Cyprus. However, I really need that island base, so if it comes to it, I would be willing to challenge you for Cyprus. I have a better historical claim anyway, since Ptolemaic Egypt has tried to invade Cyprus before.


Perhaps. Egypt is a bit wary of Carthage at the moment, because I'm worried you'll use your resources from your conquests in Italy and Sicily to fund an invasion of Egypt, but if you have something you could offer me, I'd be willing to consider it. However, at the moment, I feel one of the Italian states would be a better ally, as I could more easily manipulate them while they're weak, and they couldn't directly challenge me unless they build a navy to invade from the sea.


Could you elaborate? While the Jews originally had some polytheistic tendencies, from what I've read they were quite unique in ancient times for worshiping only one god. Plus, I didn't know what 'monolatristic' meant until I just looked it up. From what I'm reading, it's a legitimate theory regarding Jewish worship in ancient times, though if it did really exist, it died out around the Babylonian captivity (long before the events of this RP).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolatri ... ent_Israel

Monolatrism was accepted by Jewish scholars into the Middle Ages, and still exists in much smaller part today. "Traditional" Judaism disappeared more or less from the increasing liberalization of the faith during more recent centuries, with the "Orthodox" variant being the only one to not liberalize, but actually regress to a state of being which Judaism never actually experienced in the past.

I see. So, for the purposes of the RP, the Jews during this time are more monlatrist than monotheist?

[Zachary Nichols]

Etruscans, buddies with Rome?

*looks at Carthage-Egypt "alliance"*

[Hastiaka]

We can help fund your invasion of the Seleucid Empire. But Carthage is close with Etruria. In case of war, we will be neutral. However, we can offer remedies such as letting the Egyptians lease lands (ports) in Cyprus and a visiting forces agreement.

An interesting offer, but Ptolemy I is prideful, and will settle for nothing less than complete control of Cyprus. However, funding future military conquests is an interesting idea, since Carthage is a much more mercantile nation than Egypt, and assuming we can reach some sort of territory division agreement (say, I get the right to control the eastern Mediterranean and the surrounding lands, while you get to claim the western Mediterranean and everything west of Greece), then it could work out.

That one I can work with. I say in two hundred year's time we would have conquered Africa and Asia (If Rome doesn't destroy our armies). Perhaps you be the first to initiate diplomatic relations with us? Our Senate is pretty busy. Say, asking for funds.

We need warriors.
You need money, ships and siege weapons.

I think you get what I'm talking about.

[Jaslandia]

An interesting offer, but Ptolemy I is prideful, and will settle for nothing less than complete control of Cyprus. However, funding future military conquests is an interesting idea, since Carthage is a much more mercantile nation than Egypt, and assuming we can reach some sort of territory division agreement (say, I get the right to control the eastern Mediterranean and the surrounding lands, while you get to claim the western Mediterranean and everything west of Greece), then it could work out.

That one I can work with. I say in two hundred year's time we would have conquered Africa and Asia (If Rome doesn't destroy our armies). Perhaps you be the first to initiate diplomatic relations with us? Our Senate is pretty busy. Say, asking for funds.

We need warriors.
You need money, ships and siege weapons.

I think you get what I'm talking about.

I see. It's an unusual alliance, but I can see the merits of it. We would divide the Mediterranean between us, and if we unite, we would be an almost unstoppable force.

I'll get the ball rolling in my next IC post. I'll ask the Carthaginian Senate for a loan, and then we would grow closer from there.

[Hastiaka]

That one I can work with. I say in two hundred year's time we would have conquered Africa and Asia (If Rome doesn't destroy our armies). Perhaps you be the first to initiate diplomatic relations with us? Our Senate is pretty busy. Say, asking for funds.

We need warriors.
You need money, ships and siege weapons.

I think you get what I'm talking about.

I see. It's an unusual alliance, but I can see the merits of it. We would divide the Mediterranean between us, and if we unite, we would be an almost unstoppable force.

I'll get the ball rolling in my next IC post. I'll ask the Carthaginian Senate for a loan, and then we would grow closer from there.

I agree. We can even steamroll over Europe. It would take several empires to stop us if it goes as planned.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Just going to point out that Ptolemy holds a great amount of influence in Rhodes as well.

The Etruscans also have a good claim to Cyprus. Being the literal inventors of Fascism, the Etruscans are fairly nationalistic, and will fight to save their kin from perceived destructive forces. This includes Crete, Cyprus, and Rhaetia. Lemnos is an option as well, but is fairly insignificant.

[Torrocca]

Just going to point out that Ptolemy holds a great amount of influence in Rhodes as well.

The Etruscans also have a good claim to Cyprus. Being the literal inventors of Fascism, the Etruscans are fairly nationalistic, and will fight to save their kin from perceived destructive forces. This includes Crete, Cyprus, and Rhaetia. Lemnos is an option as well, but is fairly insignificant.

So, on a scale of 1 to boned, how boned are the Seleucids if the Carthaginian-Egyptian alliance decides to attack? What if the Seleucids get the Mauryans to support them in it, on basis of the current marriage alliance?

[Hastiaka]

Just going to point out that Ptolemy holds a great amount of influence in Rhodes as well.

The Etruscans also have a good claim to Cyprus. Being the literal inventors of Fascism, the Etruscans are fairly nationalistic, and will fight to save their kin from perceived destructive forces. This includes Crete, Cyprus, and Rhaetia. Lemnos is an option as well, but is fairly insignificant.

The notion of Punic nationalism makes me laugh. It's worth a try though... right?

[Yuzhou]

Just going to point out that Ptolemy holds a great amount of influence in Rhodes as well.

The Etruscans also have a good claim to Cyprus. Being the literal inventors of Fascism, the Etruscans are fairly nationalistic, and will fight to save their kin from perceived destructive forces. This includes Crete, Cyprus, and Rhaetia. Lemnos is an option as well, but is fairly insignificant.

So, on a scale of 1 to boned, how boned are the Seleucids if the Carthaginian-Egyptian alliance decides to attack? What if the Seleucids get the Mauryans to support them in it, on basis of the current marriage alliance?

My god...
Dis gonna be gud.

Seriously though, loving all this coalition stuff going on. The Romans and the Etruscans, Carthage and Egypt, potentially the Seleucids and the Mauryans.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Just going to point out that Ptolemy holds a great amount of influence in Rhodes as well.

The Etruscans also have a good claim to Cyprus. Being the literal inventors of Fascism, the Etruscans are fairly nationalistic, and will fight to save their kin from perceived destructive forces. This includes Crete, Cyprus, and Rhaetia. Lemnos is an option as well, but is fairly insignificant.

The notion of Punic nationalism makes me laugh. It's worth a try though... right?

Carthage might get defensive about being the last independent Canaanites, I suppose.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Just going to point out that Ptolemy holds a great amount of influence in Rhodes as well.

The Etruscans also have a good claim to Cyprus. Being the literal inventors of Fascism, the Etruscans are fairly nationalistic, and will fight to save their kin from perceived destructive forces. This includes Crete, Cyprus, and Rhaetia. Lemnos is an option as well, but is fairly insignificant.

So, on a scale of 1 to boned, how boned are the Seleucids if the Carthaginian-Egyptian alliance decides to attack? What if the Seleucids get the Mauryans to support them in it, on basis of the current marriage alliance?

Ptolemy and Seleucid were fairly evenly balanced. If Seleuces can convince his satraps about the more pressing matters at hand, he could unify them for a bit to fight back. Defense needs no justification.

[Zachary Nichols]

Hey scary Carthage. Dont mind me. I'll just expand to the tip of Italy and then attack Greece. No sir. Nothing to see or care about at all.

[Torrocca]

So, on a scale of 1 to boned, how boned are the Seleucids if the Carthaginian-Egyptian alliance decides to attack? What if the Seleucids get the Mauryans to support them in it, on basis of the current marriage alliance?

Ptolemy and Seleucid were fairly evenly balanced. If Seleuces can convince his satraps about the more pressing matters at hand, he could unify them for a bit to fight back. Defense needs no justification.

Hmm... alright.

[Hastiaka]

Hey scary Carthage. Dont mind me. I'll just expand to the tip of Italy and then attack Greece. No sir. Nothing to see or care about at all.

ksureynot?

[The Flame Dawn]

Hey OP, can you tell me about the lands surrounding me? I'm thinking about an expansion.

[G-Tech Corporation]

So, on a scale of 1 to boned, how boned are the Seleucids if the Carthaginian-Egyptian alliance decides to attack? What if the Seleucids get the Mauryans to support them in it, on basis of the current marriage alliance?

My god...
Dis gonna be gud.

Seriously though, loving all this coalition stuff going on. The Romans and the Etruscans, Carthage and Egypt, potentially the Seleucids and the Mauryans.

Mind you, Carthage would probably struggle to project power as far as Egypt. Nevermind Judea.

[Hastiaka]

My god...
Dis gonna be gud.

Seriously though, loving all this coalition stuff going on. The Romans and the Etruscans, Carthage and Egypt, potentially the Seleucids and the Mauryans.

Mind you, Carthage would probably struggle to project power as far as Egypt. Nevermind Judea.

We will project power. But not territorial-wise, but by trading ports and monopolizing on trade routes.