Europe: The Dark Continent (OOC and signups)

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Telegram you about what exactly? Morea's army is just too small, you can simply steamroll through it once you find a way to deal with the Hexamilion.

Don't be downcast. As you said, the wall is currently pretty much impregnable. Trebizond and the two Isles will probably take up much of my attention. Is Morea your only nation?

Yes it is.

[The Northernmost Americas]

Yes it is.

It's settled then, Morea keeps Greece.

[Akksum]

So people whats up.

[The Northernmost Americas]

Politik sucks.

[Bill Cosby Island]

Yes it is.

It's settled then, Morea keeps Greece.

He could always app as another country.
We need a Ming China to Zheng He some people's shit up.

[Tracian Empire]

Telegram you about what exactly? Morea's army is just too small, you can simply steamroll through it once you find a way to deal with the Hexamilion.

Don't be downcast. As you said, the wall is currently pretty much impregnable. Trebizond and the two Isles will probably take up much of my attention. Is Morea your only nation?

No it isn't. With Constantinople falling in the hands of the Turks so early, Emperor Manuel never repaired it, so it's mostly in a mediocre condition. The Turks broke through it multiple times in real life, and you'll be especially advantaged by the naval dominance of your fleet.
The combined forces of Morea and Trebizond should be somewhere around 20.000 men, including the garrisons on the islands.

Yeah, Morea is my only nation as of now.

[Tracian Empire]

It's settled then, Morea keeps Greece.

He could always app as another country.
We need a Ming China to Zheng He some people's shit up.

Nah, with the Byzantine successor states gone, and the Romanians nonexistent, there wouldn't be anything else I'm good at roleplaying. I'll withdraw and become a spectator.

[The Northernmost Americas]

He could always app as another country.
We need a Ming China to Zheng He some people's shit up.

Nah, with the Byzantine successor states gone, and the Romanians nonexistent, there wouldn't be anything else I'm good at roleplaying. I'll withdraw and become a spectator.

I'm thinking. I'm sure I could make a plausible case for Morea retaining Greece. It would be shame to end your involvement so early.

[Bill Cosby Island]

He could always app as another country.
We need a Ming China to Zheng He some people's shit up.

Nah, with the Byzantine successor states gone, and the Romanians nonexistent, there wouldn't be anything else I'm good at roleplaying. I'll withdraw and become a spectator.

You know, historically the Poles were rather untouched by the Black Death.
They're Eastern European Christians, right?

[Tracian Empire]

Nah, with the Byzantine successor states gone, and the Romanians nonexistent, there wouldn't be anything else I'm good at roleplaying. I'll withdraw and become a spectator.

You know, historically the Poles were rather untouched by the Black Death.
They're Eastern European Christians, right?

I'm good at playing Romanians since I'm a Romanian, and I'm kinda good at playing Byzantines since I've always liked Byzantium, but my knowledge about Poland is kinda small.

[Tracian Empire]

Nah, with the Byzantine successor states gone, and the Romanians nonexistent, there wouldn't be anything else I'm good at roleplaying. I'll withdraw and become a spectator.

I'm thinking. I'm sure I could make a plausible case for Morea retaining Greece. It would be shame to end your involvement so early.

Even if Morea continues to keep what it has in Greece, I'll mostly play a small role as your vasal, probably occasionally helping you.

[Togeria]

You know, historically the Poles were rather untouched by the Black Death.
They're Eastern European Christians, right?

I'm good at playing Romanians since I'm a Romanian, and I'm kinda good at playing Byzantines since I've always liked Byzantium, but my knowledge about Poland is kinda small.

Couldn't you just have your leadership retreat and head north, and then grow stronger and in a latter date fight to retake Greece? You could probably even retreat to another nation for awhile.

[Togeria]

I'm good at playing Romanians since I'm a Romanian, and I'm kinda good at playing Byzantines since I've always liked Byzantium, but my knowledge about Poland is kinda small.

Couldn't you just have your leadership retreat and head north, and then grow stronger and in a latter date fight to retake Greece? You could probably even retreat to another nation for awhile.

You could move some of your forces and leadership into areas of the of the Southern Balkan region.

[Bill Cosby Island]

You know, historically the Poles were rather untouched by the Black Death.
They're Eastern European Christians, right?

I'm good at playing Romanians since I'm a Romanian, and I'm kinda good at playing Byzantines since I've always liked Byzantium, but my knowledge about Poland is kinda small.

What about a Vlach state exiled North by the Ottomans? Vlachs are basically Romanians, right?

[Tracian Empire]

I'm good at playing Romanians since I'm a Romanian, and I'm kinda good at playing Byzantines since I've always liked Byzantium, but my knowledge about Poland is kinda small.

Couldn't you just have your leadership retreat and head north, and then grow stronger and in a latter date fight to retake Greece? You could probably even retreat to another nation for awhile.

The Turks are cutting all my ways out of Morea, and once Theodore dies, it will start a successor crisis, war or no war. I could try to retreat to Georgia with my Trebizond forces, but that would only delay the inevitable.

[The Northernmost Americas]

You would be confined to Greece yes. But that would allow you to focus on internal development/ intrigue and most importantly, exploration. What better incentive for an eastern Mediterranean nation to go looking for America?

[Tracian Empire]

I'm good at playing Romanians since I'm a Romanian, and I'm kinda good at playing Byzantines since I've always liked Byzantium, but my knowledge about Poland is kinda small.

What about a Vlach state exiled North by the Ottomans? Vlachs are basically Romanians, right?

That could possibly work.

[Togeria]

You would be confined to Greece yes. But that would allow you to focus on internal development/ intrigue and most importantly, exploration. What better incentive for an eastern Mediterranean nation to go looking for America?

Cosby said it best. Being in the Mediterranean is a bad spot for exploration especially as far as Greece. Cut the Gibraltar off and the empire starves.

[Bill Cosby Island]

Night fam

[Togeria]

You would be confined to Greece yes. But that would allow you to focus on internal development/ intrigue and most importantly, exploration. What better incentive for an eastern Mediterranean nation to go looking for America?

Cosby said it best. Being in the Mediterranean is a bad spot for exploration especially as far as Greece. Cut the Gibraltar off and the empire starves.

That's why when I do it, one of the focuses has to be capturing Southern Iberian land as to keep the Gibraltar open.

Night fam

Night.

[Tracian Empire]

You would be confined to Greece yes. But that would allow you to focus on internal development/ intrigue and most importantly, exploration. What better incentive for an eastern Mediterranean nation to go looking for America?

Internal development? If Morea is confined to, yeah, practically Morea or the Peloponnese, its decline would only continue. A dying state near the Ottomans would focus all its forces on its defense, and searching for a new way to Asia wouldn't bring them any kind of benefits.

[Conwy-Shire]

Cosby said it best. Being in the Mediterranean is a bad spot for exploration especially as far as Greece. Cut the Gibraltar off and the empire starves.

Then seize Gibraltar, I don't think the Granadan player is gonna show, so seize the general area like a boss (They'd be NPC's if Cosby hasn't accepted their app)

[Togeria]

Cosby said it best. Being in the Mediterranean is a bad spot for exploration especially as far as Greece. Cut the Gibraltar off and the empire starves.

Then seize Gibraltar, I don't think the Granadan player is gonna show, so seize the general area like a boss (They'd be NPC's if Cosby hasn't accepted their app)

You see I would, there's just one problem. I'M ONE OF THE SMALLEST STATES POP WISE!!!

[The Northernmost Americas]

Oh Oh, Morean leadership and the orthodox church flee north via the Adriatic, Croatia towards Poland and see what happens there. Alternatively they wander into the golden horde and rouse the peasantry against their pagan oppressors. The Ottoman navy is not deployed there yet and if they act quickly, they could possibly avoid Moorian troops.

[Conwy-Shire]

You see I would, there's just one problem. I'M ONE OF THE SMALLEST STATES POP WISE!!!

Hehe, that's why I'm considering seizing Ravenna from you