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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:35 am

Finland SSR wrote:
Reatra wrote:
I didn't say you didn't win. Just said you didn't save everybody else. The Mongols wouldn't have been very good at invading Germany anyway. Not enough plains and steppes.

The Magyars did just fine crashing around half of Europe and beating up everyone and their mother, though.

Which lead to an increase in fortifications in Europe. Think about it, if Europe was able to beat the Huns, Magyars, and early Hungaroslavs, who used the same tactics as the Mongols, I think they could have beaten the Mongols themselves. Especially since the Mongols unified the EASTERN Europeans, who were a fair deal more fracticious than the Westerners.
I'm really tired

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Finland SSR
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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:40 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Finland SSR wrote:The Magyars did just fine crashing around half of Europe and beating up everyone and their mother, though.

Which lead to an increase in fortifications in Europe. Think about it, if Europe was able to beat the Huns, Magyars, and early Hungaroslavs, who used the same tactics as the Mongols, I think they could have beaten the Mongols themselves. Especially since the Mongols unified the EASTERN Europeans, who were a fair deal more fracticious than the Westerners.

But-but-but Mongol is hype

/s

I'm not arguing with anyone here.
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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:49 am

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Which lead to an increase in fortifications in Europe. Think about it, if Europe was able to beat the Huns, Magyars, and early Hungaroslavs, who used the same tactics as the Mongols, I think they could have beaten the Mongols themselves. Especially since the Mongols unified the EASTERN Europeans, who were a fair deal more fracticious than the Westerners.

Blue Waters probably saved nothing. The Lithuanians was on the offensive not the defensive, they weren't in the business of saving Europe they where out to conquer Kiev from a weakened Golden Horde. :blink:
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Arda i Eruhíni (short form)
Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Finland SSR
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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:06 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Which lead to an increase in fortifications in Europe. Think about it, if Europe was able to beat the Huns, Magyars, and early Hungaroslavs, who used the same tactics as the Mongols, I think they could have beaten the Mongols themselves. Especially since the Mongols unified the EASTERN Europeans, who were a fair deal more fracticious than the Westerners.

Blue Waters probably saved nothing. The Lithuanians was on the offensive not the defensive, they weren't in the business of saving Europe they where out to conquer Kiev from a weakened Golden Horde. :blink:

BITCH DON'T YOU DARE DOWNPLAY OUR VICTORY

You have to remember the less obvious effects. Blue Waters was one of the first major Eastern European victories against the Mongols. Suddenly, the supposedly invincible army of heathens had been taken down. Then Kulikovo happens 17 years later. A hundred years later, all of Rus is now free, on 1501, the Golden Horde is no more.

Coincidence? I don't think so.
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Elepis
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Founded: Jan 05, 2014
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Postby Elepis » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:13 am

Finland SSR wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:Blue Waters probably saved nothing. The Lithuanians was on the offensive not the defensive, they weren't in the business of saving Europe they where out to conquer Kiev from a weakened Golden Horde. :blink:

BITCH DON'T YOU DARE DOWNPLAY OUR VICTORY

You have to remember the less obvious effects. Blue Waters was one of the first major Eastern European victories against the Mongols. Suddenly, the supposedly invincible army of heathens had been taken down. Then Kulikovo happens 17 years later. A hundred years later, all of Rus is now free, on 1501, the Golden Horde is no more.

Coincidence? I don't think so.


Golden Horde, a weakened sub-state of the Mongol Empire 100 years of Genghis Khan, against the full might of the Empire under Genghis or Ogadei...bye bye Vilnius
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Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Finland SSR
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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:17 am

Elepis wrote:
Finland SSR wrote:BITCH DON'T YOU DARE DOWNPLAY OUR VICTORY

You have to remember the less obvious effects. Blue Waters was one of the first major Eastern European victories against the Mongols. Suddenly, the supposedly invincible army of heathens had been taken down. Then Kulikovo happens 17 years later. A hundred years later, all of Rus is now free, on 1501, the Golden Horde is no more.

Coincidence? I don't think so.


Golden Horde, a weakened sub-state of the Mongol Empire 100 years of Genghis Khan, against the full might of the Empire under Genghis or Ogadei...bye bye Vilnius

Kiev was an inside job
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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:33 pm

Reatra wrote:@Ulster they're sill Irish, but the Brits had a bunch of Scots there and forced them to stay Scottish.


Except this isn't true like at all.

They're Ulster-Scots, not Irish. They speak a separate language (English and Scots), practice a different religion (Presbyterian), and originate from the Scottish Lowlands. They also have a different culture, bringing over some Lowland traditions and such. They haven't assimilated, and the Brits didn't force them to stay Scottish.

Also, considering the fact that Ireland was Anglicized and is still very Anglicized and is largely considered part of the Anglosphere I would say the English did a fairly good job at forcing Ireland assimilate to a various degree.

Also, Luck of the Irish isn't real see all of Ireland's history lmfao.
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Liecthenbourg
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:34 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Liec and I will forever withstand the Soviet hammer.

#longlivethepartidopopularmonárquico

Viva, viva, viva!
Impeach the Mayor of Lego City Legalise Falling into the River The Rescue Helicopter Needs to be Built! HEY!
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The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:34 pm

Side note: wow nationalism is so productive.

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Liecthenbourg
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:36 pm


100% convinced that these leg warmers were in fact made from Baby Alpacas, not for them.

GG
Impeach the Mayor of Lego City Legalise Falling into the River The Rescue Helicopter Needs to be Built! HEY!
Grand-Master of the Kyluminati


The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:42 pm

Finland SSR wrote:BITCH DON'T YOU DARE DOWNPLAY OUR VICTORY

You have to remember the less obvious effects. Blue Waters was one of the first major Eastern European victories against the Mongols. Suddenly, the supposedly invincible army of heathens had been taken down. Then Kulikovo happens 17 years later. A hundred years later, all of Rus is now free, on 1501, the Golden Horde is no more.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

I am not downplaying Blue Waters. But it was a battle in a war where the Mongols was on the defensive. The most decisive Mongol victory imaginable would not have presented a threat to the rest of Europe.

As for less obvious effects I don't think Blue Waters mattered that much to be honest. The Golden Horde was in decline before Blue Waters and it was in decline after. The Golden Horde would have likely fallen anyway.

But it was a great victory and Lithuania conquered Kiev, that is not a small feat and it doesn't need to be overly aggrandized to some sort of Vienna of the east in order to be impressive.
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Arda i Eruhíni (short form)
Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Narintia
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Founded: Aug 10, 2015
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Postby Narintia » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:58 pm

lolololol never forget lithuania culture destroying commonwealth Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth
aaaaaaa

weird socialist thing, estonian

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Finland SSR
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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:00 pm

Narintia wrote:lolololol never forget lithuania culture destroying commonwealth Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth

You misspelled "Empire of Lithuania, and everyone else being assimilated"
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:08 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:

100% convinced that these leg warmers were in fact made from Baby Alpacas, not for them.

GG


I don't know...
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Narintia
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Postby Narintia » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:14 pm

Finland SSR wrote:
Narintia wrote:lolololol never forget lithuania culture destroying commonwealth Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth

You misspelled "Empire of Lithuania, and everyone else being assimilated"

im sure ukranians, belarussians ,latvians and estonians dont feel Lithuanian


ha! Only one man can asmillate, and his name is Mr Popo
aaaaaaa

weird socialist thing, estonian

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Baghatur
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Postby Baghatur » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:48 pm

Post Type: 442299

Requesting admittance
under the banner of participating in and contributing to historical roleplays.

Skills: linguistics (and finance lol) major, avid reader and researcher esp. in regards to pre-modern history, fluent in Mandarin & Taiwanese
Interest: Renaissance Papacy, Silk Road, Three Kingdoms era China, Republican & Warlord Era China, Buddhism, Manchus, general militray history, art history

Pomp aside, this looks like a great group. Excited to begin RPing with y'all!

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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:53 pm

Baghatur wrote:Post Type: 442299

Requesting admittance
under the banner of participating in and contributing to historical roleplays.

Skills: linguistics (and finance lol) major, avid reader and researcher esp. in regards to pre-modern history, fluent in Mandarin & Taiwanese
Interest: Renaissance Papacy, Silk Road, Three Kingdoms era China, Republican & Warlord Era China, Buddhism, Manchus, general militray history, art history

Pomp aside, this looks like a great group. Excited to begin RPing with y'all!


Welcome!

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:36 pm

Baghatur wrote:Post Type: 442299

Requesting admittance
under the banner of participating in and contributing to historical roleplays.

Skills: linguistics (and finance lol) major, avid reader and researcher esp. in regards to pre-modern history, fluent in Mandarin & Taiwanese
Interest: Renaissance Papacy, Silk Road, Three Kingdoms era China, Republican & Warlord Era China, Buddhism, Manchus, general militray history, art history

Pomp aside, this looks like a great group. Excited to begin RPing with y'all!


Did you pay the tax?
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Altito Asmoro
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:33 pm

Reatra wrote:
Baghatur wrote:Post Type: 442299

Requesting admittance
under the banner of participating in and contributing to historical roleplays.

Skills: linguistics (and finance lol) major, avid reader and researcher esp. in regards to pre-modern history, fluent in Mandarin & Taiwanese
Interest: Renaissance Papacy, Silk Road, Three Kingdoms era China, Republican & Warlord Era China, Buddhism, Manchus, general militray history, art history

Pomp aside, this looks like a great group. Excited to begin RPing with y'all!


Did you pay the tax?


I never pay any tax.
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:34 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Did you pay the tax?


I never pay any tax.


You're several months late on your entrance tax, Altito.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Altito Asmoro
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:37 pm

Reatra wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
I never pay any tax.


You're several months late on your entrance tax, Altito.


Comrade Tito is my name! How dare you call me without comrade.

User Reatra has been detained by Internal Security Directorate for not calling me without comrade title.
Stormwrath wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

A proud Nationalist
Winner for Best War RP of 2016

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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:41 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Reatra wrote:
You're several months late on your entrance tax, Altito.


Comrade Tito is my name! How dare you call me without comrade.

User Reatra has been detained by Internal Security Directorate for not calling me without comrade title.


And I am Impirren RyRy.

You called me Reatra.

You're being detained in the Impirrenial Detention Facility in Alcatraz.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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The Industrial States of Columbia
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:55 pm

Reatra wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
Comrade Tito is my name! How dare you call me without comrade.

User Reatra has been detained by Internal Security Directorate for not calling me without comrade title.


And I am Impirren RyRy.

You called me Reatra.

You're being detained in the Impirrenial Detention Facility in Alcatraz.


Dulguri Lisch vae Althori mae imperum dae Phaethor ae Neronad. Pre sahl tholis imbrae dur aldum... akmos... >:(
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:26 pm

The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
Reatra wrote:
And I am Impirren RyRy.

You called me Reatra.

You're being detained in the Impirrenial Detention Facility in Alcatraz.


Dulguri Lisch vae Althori mae imperum dae Phaethor ae Neronad. Pre sahl tholis imbrae dur aldum... akmos... >:(


Wat
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Terminus Alpha
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:25 pm

The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
Reatra wrote:
And I am Impirren RyRy.

You called me Reatra.

You're being detained in the Impirrenial Detention Facility in Alcatraz.


Dulguri Lisch vae Althori mae imperum dae Phaethor ae Neronad. Pre sahl tholis imbrae dur aldum... akmos... >:(

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