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Yes, let everyone suggest their own stuff!
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No, make everyone use the same build list.
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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:42 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Presumably we start with an Abyssmal Development level.

Also, Hark, can those of us who actually started in the center gain +1 Wealth?

And can a new settlement be supplied with food from an old one with a Road? Cause otherwise you need at least three wealth to settle anywhere...


Everyone gets the +1 because its crowded everywhere!

And its pobably gonna get even tougher when I start spawning new civs as barbarian hordes invading from the southern deserts or the sea!!


But I am actually central- people in every direction, no natural borders to work with :P

And the question about roads?
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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:44 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
Everyone gets the +1 because its crowded everywhere!

And its pobably gonna get even tougher when I start spawning new civs as barbarian hordes invading from the southern deserts or the sea!!


But I am actually central- people in every direction, no natural borders to work with :P

And the question about roads?


The deserts are gonna be though to passtrough.
You also have defense bonus.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:47 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
But I am actually central- people in every direction, no natural borders to work with :P

And the question about roads?


The deserts are gonna be though to passtrough.
You also have defense bonus.


But so do the other people farther out from the center with a single neighbor, like Bython. Doesn't really seem reasonable to give them the same Wealth as moi, ya dig?
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Postby Jute » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:54 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Presumably we start with an Abyssmal Development level.

Also, Hark, can those of us who actually started in the center gain +1 Wealth?

And can a new settlement be supplied with food from an old one with a Road? Cause otherwise you need at least three wealth to settle anywhere...


Everyone gets the +1 because its crowded everywhere!

And its pobably gonna get even tougher when I start spawning new civs as barbarian hordes invading from the southern deserts or the sea!!

Even I? I'm isolated!
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:04 pm

Hey G-Tech, I forgot, can we work on our next eon now?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:04 pm

The Flame Dawn wrote:Hey G-Tech, I forgot, can we work on our next eon now?


I believe we can, though Hark might clarify some stuff.

Like I want to know if we can supply new provinces with a Road network from an old one, because otherwise I need to stockpile some serious wealth to feed colonists.
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:05 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Flame Dawn wrote:Hey G-Tech, I forgot, can we work on our next eon now?


I believe we can, though Hark might clarify some stuff.

Like I want to know if we can supply new provinces with a Road network from an old one, because otherwise I need to stockpile some serious wealth to feed colonists.


Don't you mean food?

EDIT: Does an agriculture count as a structure?
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Postby Harkback Union » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:07 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
The deserts are gonna be though to passtrough.
You also have defense bonus.


But so do the other people farther out from the center with a single neighbor, like Bython. Doesn't really seem reasonable to give them the same Wealth as moi, ya dig?


The wealth bonus was supposed to be given out to encourage settling in the middle of things, but otherwise being in the center has as many advantages as disadvantages. You have more directions to expand in and you'll be able to trade with a lot of people.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:07 pm

The Flame Dawn wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I believe we can, though Hark might clarify some stuff.

Like I want to know if we can supply new provinces with a Road network from an old one, because otherwise I need to stockpile some serious wealth to feed colonists.


Don't you mean food?

EDIT: Does an agriculture count as a structure?


Well food can't be transferred without a Road see, but the question is if we need a Road in the new province in order to be able to transfer food there. If yes, you need three Wealth to feed the workers to put up the road, or they'll starve when you expand.

I believe Agriculture does, yes.
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:08 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Flame Dawn wrote:
Don't you mean food?

EDIT: Does an agriculture count as a structure?


Well food can't be transferred without a Road see, but the question is if we need a Road in the new province in order to be able to transfer food there. If yes, you need three Wealth to feed the workers to put up the road, or they'll starve when you expand.

I believe Agriculture does, yes.


Shit, I wasted my free IO or RL then... *bangs head against table*
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Economic Left/Right: -6.13
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You are a: Socialist Humanist Liberal
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Liberalism score: 33%

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:09 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
But so do the other people farther out from the center with a single neighbor, like Bython. Doesn't really seem reasonable to give them the same Wealth as moi, ya dig?


The wealth bonus was supposed to be given out to encourage settling in the middle of things, but otherwise being in the center has as many advantages as disadvantages. You have more directions to expand in and you'll be able to trade with a lot of people.


But that hasn't changed since you said starting in the middle of everywhere gave a bonus. Starting in the middle still gives you more enemies and less space to expand, since I literally have a civilization within two provinces in every direction except the west.
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:10 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
The wealth bonus was supposed to be given out to encourage settling in the middle of things, but otherwise being in the center has as many advantages as disadvantages. You have more directions to expand in and you'll be able to trade with a lot of people.


But that hasn't changed since you said starting in the middle of everywhere gave a bonus. Starting in the middle still gives you more enemies and less space to expand, since I literally have a civilization within two provinces in every direction except the west.


Hark doesn't agree with me on this, but I think we need to see if people read the OP. That'll handle the clutter real good.
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Krytonus wrote:"Oh, Honey Boo-Boo is a disease," he laughed.

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Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
You are a: Socialist Humanist Liberal
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:29 pm

So, are we on Epoch 2 yet, and if so how much pop-growth happens between Epochs 1 and 2?

As for my speciality, after either sacrificing 1 unit of pop or killing 3 enemy units in battle, gain a +3 strength bonus to all combats in that epoch?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:35 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:So, are we on Epoch 2 yet, and if so how much pop-growth happens between Epochs 1 and 2?

As for my speciality, after either sacrificing 1 unit of pop or killing 3 enemy units in battle, gain a +3 strength bonus to all combats in that epoch?


Since we're all fairly barbaric in terms of development, I think you can grow up to 50%.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:36 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:So, are we on Epoch 2 yet, and if so how much pop-growth happens between Epochs 1 and 2?

As for my speciality, after either sacrificing 1 unit of pop or killing 3 enemy units in battle, gain a +3 strength bonus to all combats in that epoch?


Since we're all fairly barbaric in terms of development, I think you can grow up to 50%.


So 3 extra pops? Good, good.
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:36 pm

The Flame Dawn wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Well food can't be transferred without a Road see, but the question is if we need a Road in the new province in order to be able to transfer food there. If yes, you need three Wealth to feed the workers to put up the road, or they'll starve when you expand.

I believe Agriculture does, yes.


Shit, I wasted my free IO or RL then... *bangs head against table*


ARGH, Can I call mercy plz. I didn't know that the Agriculture was a structure.
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Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
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Liberalism score: 33%

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:38 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Since we're all fairly barbaric in terms of development, I think you can grow up to 50%.


So 3 extra pops? Good, good.


Yep. Though you have to feed them, and let them be "idle" for a turn before they become contributing members of society.
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Postby ApplePieistan » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:39 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Since we're all fairly barbaric in terms of development, I think you can grow up to 50%.


So 3 extra pops? Good, good.

Wrong! You'd be an abysmal with that.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:40 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
So 3 extra pops? Good, good.


Yep. Though you have to feed them, and let them be "idle" for a turn before they become contributing members of society.


Well, you need to get that food infrastructure up first before they can do anything,
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:41 pm

ApplePieistan wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
So 3 extra pops? Good, good.

Wrong! You'd be an abysmal with that.


I think we're all abysmal in terms of development anyway.
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Postby The Flame Dawn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:43 pm

Hark, please say that the agriculture isn't a structure. please DX
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Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
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Internationalism score: 0%
Tribalism score: -67%
Liberalism score: 33%

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Postby ApplePieistan » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:45 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:Wrong! You'd be an abysmal with that.


I think we're all abysmal in terms of development anyway.

Wrong! To be an abysmal, you need your population to be 8 or higher than your development. We're all subsistent right now.

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Postby The Flame Dawn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:46 pm

Turn 2 here I come... :lol:
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Krytonus wrote:"Oh, Honey Boo-Boo is a disease," he laughed.

New Strausberg wrote:
Prumia wrote:This is a horrible place to live! The mortals are doomed!

Not on my watch your anal virgitnty is safe with me!
Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
You are a: Socialist Humanist Liberal
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Authoritarianism score: 0%
Internationalism score: 0%
Tribalism score: -67%
Liberalism score: 33%

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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:49 pm

ApplePieistan wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
I think we're all abysmal in terms of development anyway.

Wrong! To be an abysmal, you need your population to be 8 or higher than your development. We're all subsistent right now.


Pfft. Who cares about that? I only start losing wealth, and that's no big thing really.

Sure, the slower thought generation's annoying, but that little hiccup won't last too long.
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Postby ApplePieistan » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:52 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:Wrong! To be an abysmal, you need your population to be 8 or higher than your development. We're all subsistent right now.


Pfft. Who cares about that? I only start losing wealth, and that's no big thing really.

Sure, the slower thought generation's annoying, but that little hiccup won't last too long.

Wrong! You lose 3 wealth worth of stuff, meaning either 3 food or 1 food and 1 raw labor.

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