NATION

PASSWORD

Spark of Civilization - OOC/Signups (Semi-Open) - Antiquity

For all of your non-NationStates related roleplaying needs!

Advertisement

Remove ads

Civ-specific units/buildings/fiath/wonders/Ideology?

Yes, let everyone suggest their own stuff!
16
76%
No, make everyone use the same build list.
5
24%
 
Total votes : 21

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:46 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:


You seem to be implying that I won't just destroy everything and not give a damn about fighting.

Especally considering that you're well beyond your supply lines. You can't feed yourself with supplies from home. Your pop works for food next epoch, my 7 kill it. And my 7 won't feed yours.


He fed the unit the epoch it left. He could also make wealth in his factories, but is too greedy for that.

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30807
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:47 pm

ApplePieistan wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
You seem to be implying that I won't just destroy everything and not give a damn about fighting.

Especally considering that you're well beyond your supply lines. You can't feed yourself with supplies from home. Your pop works for food next epoch, my 7 kill it. And my 7 won't feed yours.

Next epoch your pop will have all starved because you destroyed the farms and granary.


Granary isn't online yet. Check your epochs.

Also, Hark made it so I couldn't destroy all the farms. We can still feed ourselves.
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
G-Tech Corporation
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 62431
Founded: Feb 03, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:47 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Plus you don't have to die, you can go off a-hording and come back later to seek vengeance.


Not entirely sure how the whole transition to horde mode works. Suffice to say that I'm not leaving Skyshard with anyone living in it.


Presumably all you have to do is declare that you're making the transition, then assign population to become Nomads. I think Hark and I thought that you could designate half your population to join the Horde (with maybe more if you burn resources on it like Wealth and Food). Then you no longer operate as a civilization, but rather under the Horde rules.

The trouble is that that might leave population under Apple's rule, since the mechanics give him control of your pronounce and her assets at the end of the epoch. But you can always come back to liberate the more weak-willed members of your society later.
TG if you have questions about RP. If I don't know the answer, I know someone who does.

Quite the unofficial fellow. P2TM Mentor specializing in faction and nation RPs, as well as RPGs.

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:52 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:Next epoch your pop will have all starved because you destroyed the farms and granary.


Granary isn't online yet. Check your epochs.

Also, Hark made it so I couldn't destroy all the farms. We can still feed ourselves.


No, never mind that, you can starve population, but it will rebel.

User avatar
ApplePieistan
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6695
Founded: Apr 06, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby ApplePieistan » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:53 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:


You seem to be implying that I won't just destroy everything and not give a damn about fighting.

Especally considering that you're well beyond your supply lines. You can't feed yourself with supplies from home. Your pop works for food next epoch, my 7 kill it. And my 7 won't feed yours.

1. Note that your people fighting without a weapons workshop would be weaker than a normal militia.
2. Note that you cannot use more than 3 militias in a normal battle, so whatever your using would have to be as low or lower than that.
Last edited by ApplePieistan on Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
G-Tech Corporation
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 62431
Founded: Feb 03, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:53 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Granary isn't online yet. Check your epochs.

Also, Hark made it so I couldn't destroy all the farms. We can still feed ourselves.


No, never mind that, you can starve population, but it will rebel.


He'd probably rather have rebels than let Apple have obedient citizens.
TG if you have questions about RP. If I don't know the answer, I know someone who does.

Quite the unofficial fellow. P2TM Mentor specializing in faction and nation RPs, as well as RPGs.

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:54 pm

ApplePieistan wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
You seem to be implying that I won't just destroy everything and not give a damn about fighting.

Especally considering that you're well beyond your supply lines. You can't feed yourself with supplies from home. Your pop works for food next epoch, my 7 kill it. And my 7 won't feed yours.

1. Note that your people fighting without a weapons workshop would be weaker than a normal militia.
2. Note that you cannot use more than 3 militias in a normal battle, so whatever your using would have to be lower than that.


people alone R defenseless

User avatar
ApplePieistan
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6695
Founded: Apr 06, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby ApplePieistan » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:56 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:1. Note that your people fighting without a weapons workshop would be weaker than a normal militia.
2. Note that you cannot use more than 3 militias in a normal battle, so whatever your using would have to be lower than that.


people alone R defenseless

I know, but he claims that they can. I'm just saying that even if that's allowed, it wouldn't be of much use.

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:56 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
No, never mind that, you can starve population, but it will rebel.


He'd probably rather have rebels than let Apple have obedient citizens.

he could crush the rebellion as he waltzes in before they get any weapons workshops up.

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30807
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:57 pm

Wait. If I starved everyone, they'd rebel.

Hmm. So if I starve everyone and then blame Apple's army of occupation for the starvation, problem solved, right?
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30807
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:58 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
He'd probably rather have rebels than let Apple have obedient citizens.

he could crush the rebellion as he waltzes in before they get any weapons workshops up.


Rebels shouldn't have to get weapons workshops up, otherwise they aren't a threat and people would kill them as soon as they spawned. Give rebels a few (1-2) basic units for self-defence while they set up, make them an actual threat.
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
G-Tech Corporation
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 62431
Founded: Feb 03, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:59 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
He'd probably rather have rebels than let Apple have obedient citizens.

he could crush the rebellion as he waltzes in before they get any weapons workshops up.


Wouldn't the rebellion lark off elsewhere? And then get a +1 Defense Bonus?

Regardless, I'm still betting Lunas would prefer dead rebels to living slaves.

Also you should clarify how becoming a Horde works. I was thinking 1/2th of your population can be converted by default to nomads, but maybe he could invest food and wealth to save more people.
TG if you have questions about RP. If I don't know the answer, I know someone who does.

Quite the unofficial fellow. P2TM Mentor specializing in faction and nation RPs, as well as RPGs.

User avatar
ApplePieistan
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6695
Founded: Apr 06, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby ApplePieistan » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:05 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:he could crush the rebellion as he waltzes in before they get any weapons workshops up.


Rebels shouldn't have to get weapons workshops up, otherwise they aren't a threat and people would kill them as soon as they spawned. Give rebels a few (1-2) basic units for self-defence while they set up, make them an actual threat.

Hey, I had to build a workshop to make the exact same type of units, so should you.

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30807
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:07 pm

ApplePieistan wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Rebels shouldn't have to get weapons workshops up, otherwise they aren't a threat and people would kill them as soon as they spawned. Give rebels a few (1-2) basic units for self-defence while they set up, make them an actual threat.

Hey, I had to build a workshop to make the exact same type of units, so should you.


I'm not saying give me the units.

I'm saying give the 7 pop units that rebelled from Skyshard the units and are under Hark's control as OP-Rebel-Controller.

There's a difference.
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
ApplePieistan
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6695
Founded: Apr 06, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby ApplePieistan » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:15 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:Hey, I had to build a workshop to make the exact same type of units, so should you.


I'm not saying give me the units.

I'm saying give the 7 pop units that rebelled from Skyshard the units and are under Hark's control as OP-Rebel-Controller.

There's a difference.

Um… Hark, could you please respond? I don't know what to say anymore.

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:16 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
ApplePieistan wrote:Hey, I had to build a workshop to make the exact same type of units, so should you.


I'm not saying give me the units.

I'm saying give the 7 pop units that rebelled from Skyshard the units and are under Hark's control as OP-Rebel-Controller.

There's a difference.


But even they will be helpless to do anything. Rebels don't summon weapons.

User avatar
Seno Zhou Varada
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6027
Founded: Feb 25, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:18 pm

They could have a stick? Less than 1 strength (like .02 strength).
Political Compass: Economic: -8.88 Social: -9.54
Libertarian Socialist with Anarcho-Communist Leanings
Still dirty commie, shower is currently being collectivised.

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30807
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:18 pm

They're rebels. They should have weapons of some sort, otherwise at most they're just choosing to leave, not rebel.
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
G-Tech Corporation
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 62431
Founded: Feb 03, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:20 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:They're rebels. They should have weapons of some sort, otherwise at most they're just choosing to leave, not rebel.


Well, my rebels just walked off to do their own thing.

With blackjack. And hookers.

Also Hark, I think the poll needs more options. We should be able to define our own big things like religion/wonders/ideology, and maybe a unit or two, but most buildings and units should be from a universal list.
TG if you have questions about RP. If I don't know the answer, I know someone who does.

Quite the unofficial fellow. P2TM Mentor specializing in faction and nation RPs, as well as RPGs.

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:21 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:They're rebels. They should have weapons of some sort, otherwise at most they're just choosing to leave, not rebel.


They would get weapons if there were some lying around (eg, not active troops) or maybe if there was a weapons workshop, but there are none.

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:22 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:They're rebels. They should have weapons of some sort, otherwise at most they're just choosing to leave, not rebel.


Well, my rebels just walked off to do their own thing.

With blackjack. And hookers.

Also Hark, I think the poll needs more options. We should be able to define our own big things like religion/wonders/ideology, and maybe a unit or two, but most buildings and units should be from a universal list.


Well, I was gonna have around 50% units/buildings universal, especially late game.

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30807
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:22 pm

What about improvised weapons though? Scythes, sickles, shovels, spades. That sort of thing.
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:24 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:What about improvised weapons though? Scythes, sickles, shovels, spades. That sort of thing.


That's what a militia has.

But they need to be organized and trained and outfitted for battle.

User avatar
Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 30807
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:25 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:What about improvised weapons though? Scythes, sickles, shovels, spades. That sort of thing.


That's what a militia has.

But they need to be organized and trained and outfitted for battle.


And why do they need a weapons manufactory for training?
Last edited by William Slim Wed Dec 14 1970 10:35 pm, edited 35 times in total.

Confirmed member of Kyloominati, Destroyers of Worlds Membership can be applied for here

User avatar
Harkback Union
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17381
Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Harkback Union » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:26 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
That's what a militia has.

But they need to be organized and trained and outfitted for battle.


And why do they need a weapons manufactory for training?


I should have called it a barracks.
but that's too mainstream.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Portal to the Multiverse

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: G-Tech Corporation, Menschenfleisch, Nyetoa, The Epic Notepad of GrangerAirstrike

Advertisement

Remove ads