Spark of Civilization - OOC/Signups (Semi-Open) - Antiquity

[ApplePieistan]

Only after he builds his Port, which he won't build until Epoch 10.

I get 1 wealth from my river maze after I get sailing. If we're talking epoch 9, then I should have 4 wealth (1 starting, plus 3 from river maze since I finished sailing in epoch 5).

Not that you'd be getting any of it, since we'd throw it into the river maze.

The Imperator would not be able to give the orders to do so, since we wouldn't let him.

[New Strausberg]

I get 1 wealth from my river maze after I get sailing. If we're talking epoch 9, then I should have 4 wealth (1 starting, plus 3 from river maze since I finished sailing in epoch 5).

Not that you'd be getting any of it, since we'd throw it into the river maze.

The Imperator would not be able to give the orders to do so, since we wouldn't let him.

Actually orders could have already been given to destroy all welsh if an invader such as yourself should come around. This way you get nothing.

[ApplePieistan]

The Imperator would not be able to give the orders to do so, since we wouldn't let him.

Actually orders could have already been given to destroy all welsh if an invader such as yourself should come around. This way you get nothing.

But he didn't. In none of his previous IC posts did he talk about this plan, so it didn't happen.

[G-Tech Corporation]

All right everyone, I'll put up an important poll.

There will be 2 options to choose from:

A: Civs negotiate their own structures/religion/units and whatnot with me.
B: I put up structures, units and religion bonus choices for everyone to pick.

If we choose A, then I'll need everyone to put the stuff we negotiated into the unit/structure/religion list, link in the OP. I'll also need everyone not to override my judgement on their suggested stuff. Arguing with me is fine, but don't ever build anything I never approved of.

It'd probably be easier to go with B. A is just going to be a giant mess.

[New Strausberg]

Actually orders could have already been given to destroy all welsh if an invader such as yourself should come around. This way you get nothing.

But he didn't. In none of his previous IC posts did he talk about this plan, so it didn't happen.

Well all it takes really is to shout "THROW AWAY ALL THE GOLD!" And he's people get to it. You can only kill one population per epoch

[Harkback Union]

All right, so then, if apple takes over, the following may happen:
Prior to take-over, Lunas can get rid of his wealth by investing it in something stupid.
At the end of the epoch, Apple's 1 militia can
kill 1 population off
or
destroy a structure and gain 1 wealth (which he'll need to do to feed his unit).

He can also gain 1 tech from the conquered civ.

From the next epoch and on, each military unit can effectively suppress 5 population. For every such group of population, there is a 1/100 chance of revolt, or 99/100 chance of no revolt. For each unit of unsuppressed population, there is a 5/100 chance of revolt. No-revolt chances multiply to give no revolt odds. I won't bother you with the maths. An alternative to this math is if lunas controls resistance groups that gain strength over time.

[Lunas Legion]

The Imperator isn't a supreme commander. The whole 'a man chooses, a slave obeys' thing comes into play here.

The Shardians (yup, plural for people from Skyshard) would have seen you arrive. See you overcome whatever meagre resistance we offer. They know they can't fight you fairly.

So what do they do? They burn and destroy anything you might take or want. A man chooses when to give his property to others, and when to destroy it to stop that happening. A slave lets the others take it.

I'm not talking just wealth. I'm talking food. Raw materials. Our fishing boats (a.k.a sailing). Agriculture put to the torch. For all intents and purposes, to the average Shardian, a conqueror has walked in, and they'll do the only defence they can. Obliterate everything they might take, to stop them taking it.

[Harkback Union]

The Imperator isn't a supreme commander. The whole 'a man chooses, a slave obeys' thing comes into play here.

The Shardians (yup, plural for people from Skyshard) would have seen you arrive. See you overcome whatever meagre resistance we offer. They know they can't fight you fairly.

So what do they do? They burn and destroy anything you might take or want. A man chooses when to give his property to others, and when to destroy it to stop that happening. A slave lets the others take it.

I'm not talking just wealth. I'm talking food. Raw materials. Our fishing boats (a.k.a sailing). Agriculture put to the torch. For all intents and purposes, to the average Shardian, a conqueror has walked in, and they'll do the only defence they can. Obliterate everything they might take, to stop them taking it.

Lunas, if everyone could just blow up their civ before it can get conquered, then what the hell is the point of conquest?

[New Strausberg]

But he didn't. In none of his previous IC posts did he talk about this plan, so it didn't happen.

Well all it takes really is to shout "THROW AWAY ALL THE GOLD!" And he's people get to it. You can only kill one population per epoch

Another thing I don't get is why can't Luna's convert one population into a militia for an epoch? She looses a worker and get a soldier her people do outnumber the militia so the odds of if they simply said no your not taking us, there could be a penalty for it like the soldiers aren't as strong like it would take 2 population to match Apple

[Lunas Legion]

The Imperator isn't a supreme commander. The whole 'a man chooses, a slave obeys' thing comes into play here.

The Shardians (yup, plural for people from Skyshard) would have seen you arrive. See you overcome whatever meagre resistance we offer. They know they can't fight you fairly.

So what do they do? They burn and destroy anything you might take or want. A man chooses when to give his property to others, and when to destroy it to stop that happening. A slave lets the others take it.

I'm not talking just wealth. I'm talking food. Raw materials. Our fishing boats (a.k.a sailing). Agriculture put to the torch. For all intents and purposes, to the average Shardian, a conqueror has walked in, and they'll do the only defence they can. Obliterate everything they might take, to stop them taking it.

Lunas, if everyone could just blow up their civ before it can get conquered, then what the hell is the point of conquest?

To eliminate potential enemies and gain lands? That's why Apple's invaded me; he knows I'm a threat, so he moved to neuter me immediately. And as I can't fight back militarily, I'm fighting back economically, by burning all the things. I can't burn everything; the half-finished port, the various hovels, the manufactory, the farms, they're all still there. Just anything consumable.

And because he's salty I wouldn't give him food.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I don't think Cuprum has read up on Development.

Or food production.

[Harkback Union]

Lunas, if everyone could just blow up their civ before it can get conquered, then what the hell is the point of conquest?

To eliminate potential enemies and gain lands? That's why Apple's invaded me; he knows I'm a threat, so he moved to neuter me immediately. And as I can't fight back militarily, I'm fighting back economically, by burning all the things. I can't burn everything; the half-finished port, the various hovels, the manufactory, the farms, they're all still there. Just anything consumable.

And because he's salty I wouldn't give him food.

All right, you can do that, you can even start unlearning a tech by not maintaining it, but Apple will be able to learn at least something.

[ApplePieistan]

The Imperator isn't a supreme commander. The whole 'a man chooses, a slave obeys' thing comes into play here.

The Shardians (yup, plural for people from Skyshard) would have seen you arrive. See you overcome whatever meagre resistance we offer. They know they can't fight you fairly.

So what do they do? They burn and destroy anything you might take or want. A man chooses when to give his property to others, and when to destroy it to stop that happening. A slave lets the others take it.

I'm not talking just wealth. I'm talking food. Raw materials. Our fishing boats (a.k.a sailing). Agriculture put to the torch. For all intents and purposes, to the average Shardian, a conqueror has walked in, and they'll do the only defence they can. Obliterate everything they might take, to stop them taking it.

So you all starve to death. I'm fine with that. I'll just take your tech on sailing and then take it when it's uninhabited.

[Harkback Union]

I don't think Cuprum has read up on Development.

Or food production.

I talked to him, He'll be fine.

The end results are okay, the way he gets to them is where there are problems.

[Lunas Legion]

To eliminate potential enemies and gain lands? That's why Apple's invaded me; he knows I'm a threat, so he moved to neuter me immediately. And as I can't fight back militarily, I'm fighting back economically, by burning all the things. I can't burn everything; the half-finished port, the various hovels, the manufactory, the farms, they're all still there. Just anything consumable.

And because he's salty I wouldn't give him food.

All right, you can do that, you can even start unlearning a tech by not maintaining it, but Apple will be able to learn at least something.

Mhm. Whether he'll be able to hold Skyshard is another matter. 1 militia vs 7 population.

Especally considering we control the food supply in Skyshard.

[Lunas Legion]

The Imperator isn't a supreme commander. The whole 'a man chooses, a slave obeys' thing comes into play here.

The Shardians (yup, plural for people from Skyshard) would have seen you arrive. See you overcome whatever meagre resistance we offer. They know they can't fight you fairly.

So what do they do? They burn and destroy anything you might take or want. A man chooses when to give his property to others, and when to destroy it to stop that happening. A slave lets the others take it.

I'm not talking just wealth. I'm talking food. Raw materials. Our fishing boats (a.k.a sailing). Agriculture put to the torch. For all intents and purposes, to the average Shardian, a conqueror has walked in, and they'll do the only defence they can. Obliterate everything they might take, to stop them taking it.

So you all starve to death. I'm fine with that.

Better death than servitude to you.

[Harkback Union]

Only after he builds his Port, which he won't build until Epoch 10.

I get 1 wealth from my river maze after I get sailing. If we're talking epoch 9, then I should have 4 wealth (1 starting, plus 3 from river maze since I finished sailing in epoch 5).

Not that you'd be getting any of it, since we'd throw it into the river maze.

Just buy a raw labor with it to something useless, works better with rules.

[G-Tech Corporation]

So you all starve to death. I'm fine with that.

Better death than servitude to you.

Plus you don't have to die, you can go off a-hording and come back later to seek vengeance.

[ApplePieistan]

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[G-Tech Corporation]

I get 1 wealth from my river maze after I get sailing. If we're talking epoch 9, then I should have 4 wealth (1 starting, plus 3 from river maze since I finished sailing in epoch 5).

Not that you'd be getting any of it, since we'd throw it into the river maze.

Just buy a raw labor with it to something useless, works better with rules.

Perhaps he could invest his resources in letting more population join his horde? Like, 2 RL per extra Nomad?

[Lunas Legion]

Better death than servitude to you.

Plus you don't have to die, you can go off a-hording and come back later to seek vengeance.

Not entirely sure how the whole transition to horde mode works. Suffice to say that I'm not leaving Skyshard with anyone living in it.

[New Strausberg]

Better death than servitude to you.

Plus you don't have to die, you can go off a-hording and come back later to seek vengeance.

I herby open my island to Luna if you want come to my island and I'll set you up.

[Harkback Union]

Plus you don't have to die, you can go off a-hording and come back later to seek vengeance.

I herby open my island to Luna if you want come to my island and I'll set you up.

I'm not sure how he could get there.

[Lunas Legion]

Mhm. Whether he'll be able to hold Skyshard is another matter. 1 militia vs 7 population.
But doing the actually destroying takes an epoch in of itself. I don't think you can do that and fight at the same time.
Especally considering we control the food supply in Skyshard.

You seem to be implying that I won't just destroy everything and not give a damn about fighting.

Especally considering that you're well beyond your supply lines. You can't feed yourself with supplies from home. Your pop works for food next epoch, my 7 kill it. And my 7 won't feed yours.

[ApplePieistan]

You seem to be implying that I won't just destroy everything and not give a damn about fighting.

Especally considering that you're well beyond your supply lines. You can't feed yourself with supplies from home. Your pop works for food next epoch, my 7 kill it. And my 7 won't feed yours.

Next epoch your pop will have all starved because you destroyed the farms and granary.