Spark of Civilization - OOC/Signups (Semi-Open) - Antiquity

[Harkback Union]

Yeah, its actually virtually impossible to research classical techs, 14 turns it is.

[ApplePieistan]

So can i go to their capital building in one post in epoch 8?

[Harkback Union]

So can i go to their capital building in one post in epoch 8?

All right, but then a battle will start.

Also, Like I said apple, if you take over the place with such a small army, you'll have a very high revolt risk. You should negotiate some deal with lunas.

By the way, I changed my speciality:

Communal Spirit - Civilian Populations take 2 epoch to starve.

Just so that nobody can claim I'm giving myself op stuff.

[ApplePieistan]

So can i go to their capital building in one post in epoch 8?

All right, but then a battle will start.

Also, Like I said apple, if you take over the place with such a small army, you'll have a very high revolt risk. You should negotiate some deal with lunas.

By the way, I changed my speciality:

Communal Spirit - Civilian Populations take 2 epoch to starve.

Just so that nobody can claim I'm giving myself op stuff.

I won't conquer it, I'll just make it a vassal like you proposed. When the Amazons march into the nine's capital building, they will explain this to them. Oh yeah, and I edited my epoch 8 post.

[Harkback Union]

All right, but then a battle will start.

Also, Like I said apple, if you take over the place with such a small army, you'll have a very high revolt risk. You should negotiate some deal with lunas.

By the way, I changed my speciality:

Communal Spirit - Civilian Populations take 2 epoch to starve.

Just so that nobody can claim I'm giving myself op stuff.

I won't conquer it, I'll just make it a vassal like you proposed. When the Amazons march into the nine's capital building, they will explain this to them. Oh yeah, and I edited my epoch 8 post.

But lunas has to agree to it,

[ApplePieistan]

Hark, can you telegram LL what happened (in regards to me editing my epoch 8 post and winning the battle)? I would, but he'll yell at me if I do and I don't want to deal with that. If you do, there's a small chance he'll yell at you instead.

[Lunas Legion]

I'll just yell here instead.

You know what, Apple? I made myself a Aztec-Nazi Lizardmen theocracy, and that won't accept vassalage.

I'll burn every last thing I own before you get any of it.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I'll just yell here instead.

You know what, Apple? I made myself a Aztec-Nazi Lizardmen theocracy, and that won't accept vassalage.

I'll burn every last thing I own before you get any of it.

But Lunas, I was going to send an expedition to liberate you.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ooh, Hark, can I help you write rules for nomadic hordes? Lunas could become the Mongols after being driven out of his homeland.

[ApplePieistan]

I'll just yell here instead.

You know what, Apple? I made myself a Aztec-Nazi Lizardmen theocracy, and that won't accept vassalage.

I'll burn every last thing I own before you get any of it.

I'm sorry for being rude, but don't be a sore loser.

[Harkback Union]

Ooh, Hark, can I help you write rules for nomadic hordes? Lunas could become the Mongols after being driven out of his homeland.

All right.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I'll just yell here instead.

You know what, Apple? I made myself a Aztec-Nazi Lizardmen theocracy, and that won't accept vassalage.

I'll burn every last thing I own before you get any of it.

I'm sorry for being rude, but don't be a sore loser.

Well, it would be in-character for his nation.

Though I'm liking the idea of Aztec-Nazi-Lizardman-Mongols more and more.

[Harkback Union]

I'll just yell here instead.

You know what, Apple? I made myself a Aztec-Nazi Lizardmen theocracy, and that won't accept vassalage.

I'll burn every last thing I own before you get any of it.

Lunas, Lets say that 1 population can destroy 1 RL in structure each epoch, 1 military unit can destroy 1 structure each epoch.

[Lunas Legion]

I'll just yell here instead.

You know what, Apple? I made myself a Aztec-Nazi Lizardmen theocracy, and that won't accept vassalage.

I'll burn every last thing I own before you get any of it.

I'm sorry for being rude, but don't be a sore loser.

Sore? No.

Scorched earth tactics? Yes.

[Harkback Union]

Also lunas, you could consider Apple to be your protector. Just paying them some wealth or food each epoch will not be a heavy burden and you can skip on military stuff to develop your civ better.

[Lunas Legion]

Hark, I'm a theocratic Nazi-Aztec thing. The whole racial supremacy is sort-of a thing, along with divine mandate to rule. Vassalage would not really work, because we wouldn't accept it. It's not in the culture I was going for.

[Harkback Union]

Hark, I'm a theocratic Nazi-Aztec thing. The whole racial supremacy is sort-of a thing, along with divine mandate to rule. Vassalage would not really work, because we wouldn't accept it. It's not in the culture I was going for.

But what if you considered Apple's amazons to be some protective godesses?

[ApplePieistan]

I'm sorry for being rude, but don't be a sore loser.

Sore? No.

Scorched earth tactics? Yes.

Not really scorched earth because after this battle, I've won. There's no strategic benefit to it, it's just… sore.

[Lunas Legion]

Hark, I'm a theocratic Nazi-Aztec thing. The whole racial supremacy is sort-of a thing, along with divine mandate to rule. Vassalage would not really work, because we wouldn't accept it. It's not in the culture I was going for.

But what if you considered Apple's amazons to be some protective godesses?

They aren't. Simple as. If they had some highly advanced technology, we might consider them gods, but they don't, so...

It's the whole 'a man chooses, a slave obeys' thing that I mentioned in my first post. A man chooses to destroy all he has to deny it to others. A slave gives it willingly.

[Lunas Legion]

Sore? No.

Scorched earth tactics? Yes.

Not really scorched earth because after this battle, I've won. There's no strategic benefit to it, it's just… sore.

Oh, there's never any benefit to scorched earth tactics for me.

It's simply preventing you from gaining anything at all.

[Harkback Union]

But what if you considered Apple's amazons to be some protective godesses?

They aren't. Simple as. If they had some highly advanced technology, we might consider them gods, but they don't, so...

It's the whole 'a man chooses, a slave obeys' thing that I mentioned in my first post. A man chooses to destroy all he has to deny it to others. A slave gives it willingly.

Aww...

All right, but don't kill off your population, that will only help apple. Also, you can continue to roleplay your civ even if its being occupied as the populations in your domain and everyone they give brith to keep their culture. You can also decide what faith they follow.

[New Strausberg]

Not really scorched earth because after this battle, I've won. There's no strategic benefit to it, it's just… sore.

Oh, there's never any benefit to scorched earth tactics for me.

It's simply preventing you from gaining anything at all.

I can come in and help eventually Luna if your willing to wait

[ApplePieistan]

Not really scorched earth because after this battle, I've won. There's no strategic benefit to it, it's just… sore.

Oh, there's never any benefit to scorched earth tactics for me.

It's simply preventing you from gaining anything at all.

That's what being a sore loser is! Think about it- if you were gambling with a friend, lost, then burned the money you bet, that would be considered similar to what you're doing now.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Okay, here's my proposition for Hordes.

When your final territory is conquered by a foe, you have three options; be subjugated and hope to one day be liberated and revolt, be vassalized if your conqueror allows it, and go horde. Going horde is a unique state of affairs where your civilization becomes entirely nomadic, and can allow your culture to escape what would otherwise be the end of your country.

One half of your last territory's population becomes Nomads if you choose to become a Horde. These Nomads can move two domains an epoch, allowing you to rapidly outdistance any foes. Nomads may not construct buildings, but they may Think at the normal rate, and produce Raw Labor. Raw Labor costs for military units are doubled, but they can be built without Workshops one at a time. Since Nomads may not farm, they produce food organically from hunting and gathering based on the fertility of a region x2 added to one base, each Nomad being able to gather two food maximum. So, a Horde of three Nomads in a 3 Fertility region can gather 6 Food. However, the effective fertility declines by one every epoch a Horde gathers there, meaning they must continue moving to survive. Each Nomad may carry up to two Food in supplies.

The last two salient points about Nomads are that they gain military strength the longer they've been nomadic; on epoch 1 of being Nomadic they have 1 Strength for every 10 Nomads, but this ratio decreases over time until in their tenth migratory epoch they have 1 Strength per Nomad, giving them a decent chance of carving out a new homeland. They also have a unique tech they alone may research called "Sedentary Living" that costs 5 Thought and converts them back into a settled civilization.

Horde factions may have multiple Nomad bands roaming the map, splitting their initial band several times, but the cost of "Sedentary Living" goes up by 2 Thought for every additional Band. Nomads count as being at a constant Subsistence level of Development.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

What strenght does a Militia actually have?