Spark of Civilization - OOC/Signups (Semi-Open) - Antiquity

[Harkback Union]

Apple, if you attack through wetlands, you'll need wealth to feed them.
But again, Strength doesn't determine who takes over the province and Civilians alone give no strength, they have to be militias.
Strength determines who loses and how much units at the end of a battle. Both sides lose units. The one with the higher strength loses units in strength equal to 50% of the strength difference, the lower-strength armies lose 100% of strength difference from their own armies. The results are never rounded, you have to lose enough units to make up for the strength lost, even if this mean losing more strength overall then you would have to.

[Harkback Union]

I'm saying I win because I have far more citizens than he has militias.

Also still waiting for how you fed your army in the wetlands.

Actually, if he only has one militia, it should be a draw. 1 Strength to 1 Strength.

+5 Strength mountain defense + 1 Strength basic defense.

[ApplePieistan]

Apple, if you attack through wetlands, you'll need wealth to feed them.
But again, Strength doesn't determine who takes over the province and Civilians alone give no strength, they have to be militias.
Strength determines who loses and how much units at the end of a battle. Both sides lose units. The one with the higher strength loses units in strength equal to 50% of the strength difference, the lower-strength armies lose 100% of strength difference from their own armies. The results are never rounded, you have to lose enough units to make up for the strength lost, even if this mean losing more strength overall then you would have to.

They can eat at any time during the epoch, so during the assault, they'll eat after they win. When going to the wetlands, because you can feed people right outside your domain, they were able to eat before going.

[ApplePieistan]

Actually, if he only has one militia, it should be a draw. 1 Strength to 1 Strength.

+5 Strength mountain defense + 1 Strength basic defense.

But Skyshard's in the ravaneous rainforest, not a mountain.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Actually, if he only has one militia, it should be a draw. 1 Strength to 1 Strength.

+5 Strength mountain defense + 1 Strength basic defense.

No, that's bullshit.

"Hey, you're already paying through the nose for one more tech. But look! Free indestructible rebels as a bonus!"

[The Flame Dawn]

Hey G-Tech... plz reply to post

[Lunas Legion]

Apple, if you attack through wetlands, you'll need wealth to feed them.
But again, Strength doesn't determine who takes over the province and Civilians alone give no strength, they have to be militias.
Strength determines who loses and how much units at the end of a battle. Both sides lose units. The one with the higher strength loses units in strength equal to 50% of the strength difference, the lower-strength armies lose 100% of strength difference from their own armies. The results are never rounded, you have to lose enough units to make up for the strength lost, even if this mean losing more strength overall then you would have to.

They can eat at any time during the epoch, so during the assault, they'll eat after they win. When going to the wetlands, because you can feed people right outside your domain, they were able to eat before going.

Wetlands don't border you. There's a tile in the way. You can eat before moving to the rainforest tile between me and you, but you need to pay to feed them when moving from the rainforest to the wetlands.

[Harkback Union]

+5 Strength mountain defense + 1 Strength basic defense.

No, that's bullshit.

"Hey, you're already paying through the nose for one more tech. But look! Free indestructible rebels as a bonus!"

Its not like they could destroy you either.

[ApplePieistan]

They can eat at any time during the epoch, so during the assault, they'll eat after they win. When going to the wetlands, because you can feed people right outside your domain, they were able to eat before going.

Wetlands don't border you. There's a tile in the way. You can eat before moving to the rainforest tile between me and you, but you need to pay to feed them when moving from the rainforest to the wetlands.

They can eat when right outside the capital city. If they couldn't, colonizing places right out your capital would be impossible. Therefore, they could eat in the rainforest.

[Harkback Union]

Apple, if you attack through wetlands, you'll need wealth to feed them.
But again, Strength doesn't determine who takes over the province and Civilians alone give no strength, they have to be militias.
Strength determines who loses and how much units at the end of a battle. Both sides lose units. The one with the higher strength loses units in strength equal to 50% of the strength difference, the lower-strength armies lose 100% of strength difference from their own armies. The results are never rounded, you have to lose enough units to make up for the strength lost, even if this mean losing more strength overall then you would have to.

They can eat at any time during the epoch, so during the assault, they'll eat after they win. When going to the wetlands, because you can feed people right outside your domain, they were able to eat before going.

Yes, but they would need to make 2 steps to get to the wetlands, what feeds them during the 2nd epoch of their journey?

[G-Tech Corporation]

No, that's bullshit.

"Hey, you're already paying through the nose for one more tech. But look! Free indestructible rebels as a bonus!"

Its not like they could destroy you either.

You're already screwing me hard enough with my surroundings. Literally the best territory I've found has two Fertile Land.

[The Flame Dawn]

Its not like they could destroy you either.

You're already screwing me hard enough with my surroundings. Literally the best territory I've found has two Fertile Land.

*cough* I haz excess food *cough* reply to my post *cough*

[Harkback Union]

Its not like they could destroy you either.

You're already screwing me hard enough with my surroundings. Literally the best territory I've found has two Fertile Land.

But they all have +5 Defense.

You are indestructible!
As long as you have militia...

[Harkback Union]

You're already screwing me hard enough with my surroundings. Literally the best territory I've found has two Fertile Land.

But they all have +5 Defense.

You are indestructible!
As long as you have militia...

You build a wall on those mountains and you'll have 10 Strength defending.

That's the trade-off in mountains, fertility for security.

[Lunas Legion]

Its not like they could destroy you either.

You're already screwing me hard enough with my surroundings. Literally the best territory I've found has two Fertile Land.

At least you aren't about to be conquered because someone's salty that I wouldn't give them food.

[G-Tech Corporation]

You're already screwing me hard enough with my surroundings. Literally the best territory I've found has two Fertile Land.

But they all have +5 Defense.

You are indestructible!
As long as you have militia...

And that does diddly-squat for anything except defense.

I mean, if my choice is +1 Tech or not being eras being in industry, population, and having a hostile civilization built by an enemy next to me, fuck this.

[ApplePieistan]

They can eat at any time during the epoch, so during the assault, they'll eat after they win. When going to the wetlands, because you can feed people right outside your domain, they were able to eat before going.

Yes, but they would need to make 2 steps to get to the wetlands, what feeds them during the 2nd epoch of their journey?

I don't see your confusion.
1. From Penthesilea to the rainforest, they eat in Penthesilea.
2. From rainforest to wetlands, they eat in the rainforest (because it's right outside Penthesilea).
3. From wetlands to Skyshard, they eat in Skyshard after winning.

[Lunas Legion]

G, we're all equally fucked in the area of tech. At least you can defend yourself.

Also starving population should... Well, starve, not go off and form rebel groups.

[Harkback Union]

But they all have +5 Defense.

You are indestructible!
As long as you have militia...

And that does diddly-squat for anything except defense.

I mean, if my choice is +1 Tech or not being eras being in industry, population, and having a hostile civilization built by an enemy next to me, fuck this.

Not having to field massive armies to defend yourself from the likes of apple is a great bonus of its own.

If you really want to, I can get rid of the defense bonus of your domains to add more fertile land.

[G-Tech Corporation]

G, we're all equally fucked in the area of tech. At least you can defend yourself.

Also starving population should... Well, starve, not go off and form rebel groups.

See though Lunas, Hark is unhappy I used my bonus. My civ specially have me 1 free Food in my starting province, so I exploited that and his approach to tech to allow myself to hit Decent Development and generate 2 Thought instead of 1 for a few turns. I literally sacrificed any progress for half the game and more in exchange for one Tech.

And for that I get shit land and a hostile civilization next door. Duck me, no inventiveness next time. Yeah, I'm a bit salty.

[G-Tech Corporation]

And that does diddly-squat for anything except defense.

I mean, if my choice is +1 Tech or not being eras being in industry, population, and having a hostile civilization built by an enemy next to me, fuck this.

Not having to field massive armies to defend yourself from the likes of apple is a great bonus of its own.

If you really want to, I can get rid of the defense bonus of your domains to add more fertile land.

I would do that in a heartbeat- hell, half a heartbeat.

[The Flame Dawn]

You're already screwing me hard enough with my surroundings. Literally the best territory I've found has two Fertile Land.

*cough* I haz excess food *cough* reply to my post *cough*

*cough*

[Harkback Union]

If you are wondering G-tech, noone is better off then you. Just because some have more fertile land doesn't mean crap. Most of those people are on islands where they'll have to get sailing just to expand or in deserts where I can pretty much guarantee that non-watery domains are absolutely worthless.

You don't have apple breathing down your neck, you don't start in frozen wastelands where 2 Fertile land is the best you can get. Also, the mechanics are devised as such that nobody, nobody will permanently fall behind. Even if you are a worthless tribe for most of the game, you'll be able to get massively ahead late game if you happen to sit on oil, which will be abundant in places like:
- No fertile land
- No Raw materials
- Crappy speciality.

Techs from past eras will come very cheap. 50% off last eon, practically free from before if you encounter any civilization to have them and enact the right ideology.

[G-Tech Corporation]

*cough* I haz excess food *cough* reply to my post *cough*

*cough*

I'm actually pretty decent on food. My problem is more development, but I can't exactly employ you to build hovels for me

[Harkback Union]

Not having to field massive armies to defend yourself from the likes of apple is a great bonus of its own.

If you really want to, I can get rid of the defense bonus of your domains to add more fertile land.

I would do that in a heartbeat- hell, half a heartbeat.

Okay, so then, All your HH domains get:
+1 Fertile Land
-5 Strength when defending

Deal?