Spark of Civilization - OOC/Signups (Semi-Open) - Antiquity

[Harkback Union]

Meh...

I have land right next to them still

Did you expand west?

Its just that I'm not yet done with rebellion rules and Its the most reasonable thing people would do in that situation and I don't want G-tech to complain too much about it.

It's not my fault you made genocide the only way to acquire tech

I'll be sure to fix the rules so that there is a minimum population for each development level!

[G-Tech Corporation]

Did you expand west?



It's not my fault you made genocide the only way to acquire tech

No, I expanded east, to the land without the river on it.

You have nothing to worry about then- they expanded northwest, which is two provinces from your capital, and even farther from your expansion.

Oh, Hark, my militia explored the land to Kharbarinth's west, whenever you please

[The Flame Dawn]

No, I expanded east, to the land without the river on it.

You have nothing to worry about then- they expanded northwest, which is two provinces from your capital, and even farther from your expansion.

Oh, Hark, my militia explored the land to Kharbarinth's west, whenever you please

Thank god. Did I mention I have trouble with my left right and east west?

[United Soviet Jason Republic]

Thank god. Did I mention I have trouble with my left right and east west?

You have no idea on what I have to my south.
Shia Hulud! The great Shia Hulud!

[ApplePieistan]

You do not have a defensive bonus all around. If you did, it would say that as your special. Also, when moving my men to the wetlands, they ate before they moved. If they attack Skyshard, they can take your food/wealth and eat it/spend it.

I'm using logic here. Hark, give me a ruling on this. If I have a river maze, which means a crap-ton of rivers, then logically it should give me defence bonuses all around as no matter which way you attack from, you have to cross a shit-ton of rivers, no?

And shouldn't regular pop have a combat value, representing them grabbing farming implements, hammers and generally anything sharp in self-defence?

*takes deep breath* Alright Hark, answer him, but remember that it would be a dick move to bring up a new special for Skyshard the epoch before he's attacked. Also, the +1 strength for defenders probably is untrained civilians fighting back.

[Lunas Legion]

I'm using logic here. Hark, give me a ruling on this. If I have a river maze, which means a crap-ton of rivers, then logically it should give me defence bonuses all around as no matter which way you attack from, you have to cross a shit-ton of rivers, no?

And shouldn't regular pop have a combat value, representing them grabbing farming implements, hammers and generally anything sharp in self-defence?

*takes deep breath* Alright Hark, answer him, but remember that it would be a dick move to bring up a new special for Skyshard the epoch before he's attacked. Also, the +1 strength for defenders probably is untrained civilians fighting back.

+1 strength for... What, 8~ times your number fighting back? Sure, they're civilians, but sheer weight of numbers has to count for something here.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Oh, USJR? You can't gain two Thought a turn, as your Development Level is Abyssmal. Also you lose three food ever epoch, so you would have been starving off extra population the moment you hit 10 Pop.

[ApplePieistan]

*takes deep breath* Alright Hark, answer him, but remember that it would be a dick move to bring up a new special for Skyshard the epoch before he's attacked. Also, the +1 strength for defenders probably is untrained civilians fighting back.

+1 strength for... What, 8~ times your number fighting back? Sure, they're civilians, but sheer weight of numbers has to count for something here.

But all of your guys are spread out across your domain. My army will be all together.

[Harkback Union]

Okay, Development levels of decent, prospering and utopian now require at least 6 population, starting from now.

Starvations now cause bloody revolts (Military presence helps mitigate).

TG op in case of likely revolts to get the odds of rebellions.

Don'T worry about g-tech getting ahead in tech, the rebels will bite him in the arse, I'll make sure of that.

[Lunas Legion]

+1 strength for... What, 8~ times your number fighting back? Sure, they're civilians, but sheer weight of numbers has to count for something here.

But all of your guys are spread out across your domain. My army will be all together.

At least 4 are on farms. We can count them out.

That leaves 6, doing various things like raw labour, thought etc in the main city, since that's where that stuff would be concentrated. 6-1 odds on the defensive, even given that mine are armed civilians, would probably be in my favour.

[The Flame Dawn]

Hey Hark, if you could rank everyone in the RP on how good their civs have been what would be your top 5?

[ApplePieistan]

But all of your guys are spread out across your domain. My army will be all together.

At least 4 are on farms. We can count them out.

That leaves 6, doing various things like raw labour, thought etc in the main city, since that's where that stuff would be concentrated. 6-1 odds on the defensive, even given that mine are armed civilians, would probably be in my favour.

And you expect what, plus 6 strength for being the one that is invaded? You're talking about game-breaking things here.

[Lunas Legion]

At least 4 are on farms. We can count them out.

That leaves 6, doing various things like raw labour, thought etc in the main city, since that's where that stuff would be concentrated. 6-1 odds on the defensive, even given that mine are armed civilians, would probably be in my favour.

And you expect what, plus 6 strength for being the one that is invaded? You're talking about game-breaking things here.

I'm not talking plus 6 strength in terms of mechanics, I'm talking simple RL practicalities. 6-1 in the defenders favour are impossible odds for attackers without a significant technological advantage.

[Harkback Union]

Hey Hark, if you could rank everyone in the RP on how good their civs have been what would be your top 5?

Yes, that would be very convenient, but do so at the end of each epoch.

[The Flame Dawn]

Hey Hark, if you could rank everyone in the RP on how good their civs have been what would be your top 5?

Yes, that would be very convenient, but do so at the end of each epoch.

I ment it more like an F7 question. In your opinion, off the top of your head which civs are doing the best.

[Harkback Union]

Yes, that would be very convenient, but do so at the end of each epoch.

I ment it more like an F7 question. In your opinion, off the top of your head which civs are doing the best.

Oh, well, its too early to tell.

Everyone's doing fine so far.

[ApplePieistan]

And you expect what, plus 6 strength for being the one that is invaded? You're talking about game-breaking things here.

I'm not talking plus 6 strength in terms of mechanics, I'm talking simple RL practicalities. 6-1 in the defenders favour are impossible odds for attackers without a significant technological advantage.

Ugh, let's just wait for Harkback to decide this I guess.

[The Flame Dawn]

I ment it more like an F7 question. In your opinion, off the top of your head which civs are doing the best.

Oh, well, its too early to tell.

Everyone's doing fine so far.

Oh yeah. Can you repeatedly exploit a Natural Resource to get RM or can you only do it once per instance of the resource.

Say I have a deposit of Stone and I exploit it to get 1 RM is the Stone Deposit consumed in the process or can it be exploited multiple times?

[Harkback Union]

Oh, well, its too early to tell.

Everyone's doing fine so far.

Oh yeah. Can you repeatedly exploit a Natural Resource to get RM or can you only do it once per instance of the resource.

Say I have a deposit of Stone and I exploit it to get 1 RM is the Stone Deposit consumed in the process or can it be exploited multiple times?

It can be exploited once per epoch.

[The Flame Dawn]

Oh yeah. Can you repeatedly exploit a Natural Resource to get RM or can you only do it once per instance of the resource.

Say I have a deposit of Stone and I exploit it to get 1 RM is the Stone Deposit consumed in the process or can it be exploited multiple times?

It can be exploited once per epoch.

K, that's good to hear.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Okay, fine, there. No more rebels, and I get Abyssmal Development and have to delay research forever.

Always great to suddenly find out your turn 1 actions have turned into an enemy that can fight on equal terms.

[ApplePieistan]

Hark, LL is saying that he will win in the war next epoch because he has more citizens than I have militias, but I'm saying he won't. Can you please decide the winner and then give me a land report? I don't actually care about the land, but it'd be nice to see what's there anyway.

[Lunas Legion]

I'm saying I win because I have far more citizens than he has militias.

Also still waiting for how you fed your army in the wetlands.

[Harkback Union]

Okay, fine, there. No more rebels, and I get Abyssmal Development and have to delay research forever.

Always great to suddenly find out your turn 1 actions have turned into an enemy that can fight on equal terms.

Nah, they would have remained underdevelopped and could have been bought off with wealth, just wanted to make sure that starving off half your citizenry won't come without consequences.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I'm saying I win because I have far more citizens than he has militias.

Also still waiting for how you fed your army in the wetlands.

Actually, if he only has one militia, it should be a draw. 1 Strength to 1 Strength.