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Arulean States
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Founded: Mar 24, 2013
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Postby Arulean States » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:40 am

Pimps Inc wrote:
Arulean States wrote:Where is the most updated map? Also, since it was approved, a post unifying China and Japan will be coming later today. As agreed, it will not go as smoothly as I would like, but hey, that's the price. :p
Also, is anyone else interested in trade with Japan?
Also also, Acro, I am sending ambassadors to your nation. I also sent you a letter.

I sent you a letter.

I see that. I will respond to that too.
5- At peace
4- Potential threat
3- Active preparations for war
2- Mobilization of Armed reserves and Militias
1- All out war

You can call me Aru

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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:45 am

Ok, need to respond to America and I guess the French?
This account must be deleted. The person behind it is a racist, annoying waste of life that must be shunned back to whatever rock he crawled out from.

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:46 pm

Taganian unfied states wrote:Asrul is not under siege... and a new General is preparing to march north.... a game-changer for the Imperium.

What's the current situation of Fort Asrul?
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Lenciland
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Founded: Jun 19, 2012
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Postby Lenciland » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:04 pm

What do you want out of these negotiations Aru?
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
Cthulu be praised!!

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Arulean States
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Founded: Mar 24, 2013
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Postby Arulean States » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:09 pm

Lenciland wrote:What do you want out of these negotiations Aru?

Trade, to buy your part of the Philippines, and maybe some other things.
5- At peace
4- Potential threat
3- Active preparations for war
2- Mobilization of Armed reserves and Militias
1- All out war

You can call me Aru

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:19 pm

Ralnis wrote:Ok, need to respond to America and I guess the French?

Yes
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:20 pm

Arulean States wrote:
Lenciland wrote:What do you want out of these negotiations Aru?

Trade, to buy your part of the Philippines, and maybe some other things.

I have a claim(unnoficial) to at least a part of the Phillipines.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Military Lands of the Scottish People
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Posts: 3648
Founded: Jul 31, 2014
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Postby Military Lands of the Scottish People » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:25 pm

Updated numbers for my army
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Segmentia
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Segmentia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:33 pm

That's still a massive number, and I call BS on 90% of them being trained professional forces. An army of that size, being mustered so quickly, would be little more then a massive mob, most of them probably wielding melee weapons such as farming tools, only useful for campaigns within your own territory, and even then, you would see masses of them returning home with the changing of the seasons. Because these would be the people who are the backbone of your economy. Craftsmen, farmers, etc etc.
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"We've lost control! Now for the love of Earth...and the Sovereign Colonies, we've got to do what's right."

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Arulean States
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Founded: Mar 24, 2013
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Postby Arulean States » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:33 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Arulean States wrote:Trade, to buy your part of the Philippines, and maybe some other things.

I have a claim(unnoficial) to at least a part of the Phillipines.

Well, that can be negotiated to.
Col. Andy Tanner: Six hundred million screaming Chinamen.
Darryl Bates: Last I heard, there were a billion screaming Chinamen.
-Red Dawn
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5- At peace
4- Potential threat
3- Active preparations for war
2- Mobilization of Armed reserves and Militias
1- All out war

You can call me Aru

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Military Lands of the Scottish People
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Founded: Jul 31, 2014
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Postby Military Lands of the Scottish People » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:34 pm

Segmentia wrote:That's still a massive number, and I call BS on 90% of them being trained professional forces. An army of that size, being mustered so quickly, would be little more then a massive mob, most of them probably wielding melee weapons such as farming tools, only useful for campaigns within your own territory, and even then, you would see masses of them returning home with the changing of the seasons. Because these would be the people who are the backbone of your economy. Craftsmen, farmers, etc etc.

Because building up - you do know about 90 or 80% of this force has been active before this?
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Minister of Internal Affairs, March 23rd, 2018 - October 13th, 2018 (two terms)
Vice President, January 16th, 2019 - May 8th, 2019 (One Term)
Recipient of the Cobalt Iron Cross during 2018s N Day.
I do not put a lot of effort here, in regards to my signature, I hope that does not make you think any less of me <3

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Lenciland
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 19, 2012
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Postby Lenciland » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:36 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Arulean States wrote:Trade, to buy your part of the Philippines, and maybe some other things.

I have a claim(unnoficial) to at least a part of the Phillipines.

Aru: what would you give me in exchange for my part of the Phillipines? I like Mindanao.
Pimps: Maybe, but can you enforce it?
Quotes:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
Cthulu be praised!!

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Pimps Inc
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Posts: 9762
Founded: Jul 08, 2013
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:37 pm

Arulean States wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I have a claim(unnoficial) to at least a part of the Phillipines.

Well, that can be negotiated to.
Col. Andy Tanner: Six hundred million screaming Chinamen.
Darryl Bates: Last I heard, there were a billion screaming Chinamen.
-Red Dawn

Well.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Segmentia
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Posts: 8643
Founded: Jan 16, 2010
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Segmentia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:40 pm

And as I said before, the military sizes in this rp are ludicrous, including my own. Trust me, my skin crawled when I put down that number, but looking at all the other army sizes it would make sense for a state to have a likewise large force to ward off invasion.

The technology is simply not invented in this time period to have multi-million man professional, standing armies. No nation in this era would be able to afford it or supply it. Even when Napoleon invaded Russia, the Russians were able to muster around 900,000 soldiers, and most of those were militia.
Proud super-heavy tank enthusiast of the Imperium of Man

"We've lost control! Now for the love of Earth...and the Sovereign Colonies, we've got to do what's right."

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Arulean States
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Founded: Mar 24, 2013
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Postby Arulean States » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:44 pm

Lenciland wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I have a claim(unnoficial) to at least a part of the Phillipines.

Aru: what would you give me in exchange for my part of the Phillipines? I like Mindanao.
Pimps: Maybe, but can you enforce it?

Here's what I'll give you. Unrestricted trade with both Japan and China, a permanent embassy in the Capital, and unopposed rights to Malaysia.
5- At peace
4- Potential threat
3- Active preparations for war
2- Mobilization of Armed reserves and Militias
1- All out war

You can call me Aru

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Arulean States
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Founded: Mar 24, 2013
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Postby Arulean States » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:46 pm

Segmentia wrote:And as I said before, the military sizes in this rp are ludicrous, including my own. Trust me, my skin crawled when I put down that number, but looking at all the other army sizes it would make sense for a state to have a likewise large force to ward off invasion.

The technology is simply not invented in this time period to have multi-million man professional, standing armies. No nation in this era would be able to afford it or supply it. Even when Napoleon invaded Russia, the Russians were able to muster around 900,000 soldiers, and most of those were militia.

Actually, now that China and Japan are unified...
5- At peace
4- Potential threat
3- Active preparations for war
2- Mobilization of Armed reserves and Militias
1- All out war

You can call me Aru

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Lenciland
Minister
 
Posts: 2926
Founded: Jun 19, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lenciland » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:48 pm

Arulean States wrote:
Lenciland wrote:Aru: what would you give me in exchange for my part of the Phillipines? I like Mindanao.
Pimps: Maybe, but can you enforce it?

Here's what I'll give you. Unrestricted trade with both Japan and China, a permanent embassy in the Capital, and unopposed rights to Malaysia.

Trade-sounds good.
Embassy- not really a negotiation piece.
Unopposed rights in Malaysia-The Sicilians control the mainland part and I already control or can I eminently control the piece on Borneo.
I want trade, an embassy, and something in Southeast Asia.
Quotes:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
Cthulu be praised!!

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Segmentia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8643
Founded: Jan 16, 2010
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Segmentia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:50 pm

Arulean States wrote:
Segmentia wrote:And as I said before, the military sizes in this rp are ludicrous, including my own. Trust me, my skin crawled when I put down that number, but looking at all the other army sizes it would make sense for a state to have a likewise large force to ward off invasion.

The technology is simply not invented in this time period to have multi-million man professional, standing armies. No nation in this era would be able to afford it or supply it. Even when Napoleon invaded Russia, the Russians were able to muster around 900,000 soldiers, and most of those were militia.

Actually, now that China and Japan are unified...


Neither states were very modernized at this time, at least in real life. Not sure how the two apps made them out to be, but again, if you expect to field a multi-million professional, standing, and modern army you economy will implode.
Proud super-heavy tank enthusiast of the Imperium of Man

"We've lost control! Now for the love of Earth...and the Sovereign Colonies, we've got to do what's right."

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Arulean States
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Founded: Mar 24, 2013
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Postby Arulean States » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:53 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Arulean States wrote:Actually, now that China and Japan are unified...


Neither states were very modernized at this time, at least in real life. Not sure how the two apps made them out to be, but again, if you expect to field a multi-million professional, standing, and modern army you economy will implode.

I don't, just so you know. In this RP, Japan is dependent on foreign grain (from China and elsewhere) to maintain its army, at least for now. In China, there are maybe a half million professional soldiers, and the rest are conscripts. Most men are provided for by local lords, in both Japan and China, and the local lords are responsible for feeding them. Also, I reduced the Chinese army's size by about a quarter (half of the actives), when western china rebelled.
5- At peace
4- Potential threat
3- Active preparations for war
2- Mobilization of Armed reserves and Militias
1- All out war

You can call me Aru

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:57 pm

Lenciland wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I have a claim(unnoficial) to at least a part of the Phillipines.

Aru: what would you give me in exchange for my part of the Phillipines? I like Mindanao.
Pimps: Maybe, but can you enforce it?

I mean, the Manila-Acapulco route is more valuable to you than me.
I am pretty much North America(at least the valuable parts), and cutting trade with you could harm the Phillipines reliance on the New World, while I would still have Sicilian Asia to trade with.

But that's just last resort, I only have a few frigates sloops and a 5th rate in the Pacific so, maybe? I don't know the state of your navy, though I'm guessing probably not that much better.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Lenciland
Minister
 
Posts: 2926
Founded: Jun 19, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lenciland » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:02 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Lenciland wrote:Aru: what would you give me in exchange for my part of the Phillipines? I like Mindanao.
Pimps: Maybe, but can you enforce it?

I mean, the Manila-Acapulco route is more valuable to you than me.
I am pretty much North America(at least the valuable parts), and cutting trade with you could harm the Phillipines reliance on the New World, while I would still have Sicilian Asia to trade with.

But that's just last resort, I only have a few frigates sloops and a 5th rate in the Pacific so, maybe? I don't know the state of your navy, though I'm guessing probably not that much better.

I don't control Manilla and I can bypass you through my colonial holdings. Sure you would have Sicilian Asia(Mainland Malaysia and parts of India, but you'd have to travel through waters that you have just made hostile.

I'm completely in the Pacific, I'm a nation of islands, and all of my interest lie in the Pacific.
Quotes:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
Cthulu be praised!!

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Military Lands of the Scottish People
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Posts: 3648
Founded: Jul 31, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Military Lands of the Scottish People » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:02 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Arulean States wrote:Actually, now that China and Japan are unified...


Neither states were very modernized at this time, at least in real life. Not sure how the two apps made them out to be, but again, if you expect to field a multi-million professional, standing, and modern army you economy will implode.

Stockpiling. This game is not real life, and it shouldn't be compared to it. Trust me, if it were realistic, all of would be dead or split.
If you need to contact me, the best way is through either joining the Cobalt Network Discord or adding me on it. My username is Hollywood #6420. I get on NS once or twice a week on average.

I have been on here for a while and I have came and went but this Region, Cobalt Network, its full of great people. I recommend you try to join it.
Proud Cobaltian Citizen, November 13, 2017 - Present

Minister of Internal Affairs, March 23rd, 2018 - October 13th, 2018 (two terms)
Vice President, January 16th, 2019 - May 8th, 2019 (One Term)
Recipient of the Cobalt Iron Cross during 2018s N Day.
I do not put a lot of effort here, in regards to my signature, I hope that does not make you think any less of me <3

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Arulean States
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Founded: Mar 24, 2013
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Postby Arulean States » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:07 pm

Military Lands of the Scottish People wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Neither states were very modernized at this time, at least in real life. Not sure how the two apps made them out to be, but again, if you expect to field a multi-million professional, standing, and modern army you economy will implode.

Stockpiling. This game is not real life, and it shouldn't be compared to it. Trust me, if it were realistic, all of would be dead or split.

He's referring to my combined China and Japan. He thinks that if I were to mobilize a million man army, I would collapse, and I agree. A million is excessive without proper preparation.
5- At peace
4- Potential threat
3- Active preparations for war
2- Mobilization of Armed reserves and Militias
1- All out war

You can call me Aru

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Segmentia
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Posts: 8643
Founded: Jan 16, 2010
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Segmentia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:09 pm

Arulean States wrote:
Military Lands of the Scottish People wrote:Stockpiling. This game is not real life, and it shouldn't be compared to it. Trust me, if it were realistic, all of would be dead or split.

He's referring to my combined China and Japan. He thinks that if I were to mobilize a million man army, I would collapse, and I agree. A million is excessive without proper preparation.


No, I was referring to him. He has around 5 million soldiers, apparently 90% of them being professional soldiers.

And I'm not even going to go into the whole 'stockpiling' thing.
Proud super-heavy tank enthusiast of the Imperium of Man

"We've lost control! Now for the love of Earth...and the Sovereign Colonies, we've got to do what's right."

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:10 pm

Lenciland wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I mean, the Manila-Acapulco route is more valuable to you than me.
I am pretty much North America(at least the valuable parts), and cutting trade with you could harm the Phillipines reliance on the New World, while I would still have Sicilian Asia to trade with.

But that's just last resort, I only have a few frigates sloops and a 5th rate in the Pacific so, maybe? I don't know the state of your navy, though I'm guessing probably not that much better.

I don't control Manilla and I can bypass you through my colonial holdings. Sure you would have Sicilian Asia(Mainland Malaysia and parts of India, but you'd have to travel through waters that you have just made hostile.

I'm completely in the Pacific, I'm a nation of islands, and all of my interest lie in the Pacific.

I could go around....

That doesn't answer anything. The Pirates lie in the Caribbean and still don't have a navy that really beats their rival's.
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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