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Halleon
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Halleon » Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:52 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:I'm the most democratic one.....
If I'm not correct, the Imperium's app classes its government as "military dictatorship".


Very true but my republic is ruled by basically a dictator so nobody is perfectly innocent. :lol:

Would be wishful thinking to say that I hope the war brings forth more republics into the Americas.
Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age. -James Joyce

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”-Abraham Lincoln
"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
―Varys to Tyrion Lannister

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:55 pm

Halleon wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I'm the most democratic one.....
If I'm not correct, the Imperium's app classes its government as "military dictatorship".


Very true but my republic is ruled by basically a dictator so nobody is perfectly innocent. :lol:

Would be wishful thinking to say that I hope the war brings forth more republics into the Americas.

Mexico will probably stay a monarchy until the middle of the century and be replaced by the United Mexican States.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:18 pm

Would it be reasonable to start making a post describing mobilisation, even though Sicily, Britain and Byzantines haven't declared war yet?
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:22 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Would it be reasonable to start making a post describing mobilisation, even though Sicily, Britain and Byzantines haven't declared war yet?

If you want to pull a Hitler and storm into them like they were Poland, sure, but it wouldn't be justified and raise eyebrows among the Great Powers.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:30 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Would it be reasonable to start making a post describing mobilisation, even though Sicily, Britain and Byzantines haven't declared war yet?

If you want to pull a Hitler and storm into them like they were Poland, sure, but it wouldn't be justified and raise eyebrows among the Great Powers.

De facto we're at war already, seeing as you have that pact and we're fighting with America.
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:35 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:If you want to pull a Hitler and storm into them like they were Poland, sure, but it wouldn't be justified and raise eyebrows among the Great Powers.

De facto we're at war already, seeing as you have that pact and we're fighting with America.

The Brits and Sicilians are yet to formally sign, while news of it would take time to reach the rest of Europe.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:43 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:De facto we're at war already, seeing as you have that pact and we're fighting with America.

The Brits and Sicilians are yet to formally sign, while news of it would take time to reach the rest of Europe.

True
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:51 pm

Also, what's this blasphemy of killing children and women that you speak of?
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Ralnis
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:54 pm

Ok, I'm hunting the Byzanntine fleet and sending dive bells. It's time to do some piracy.
Halleon wrote:Who all would be interested in diplomatic and trade ties with the Hellenic Republic? Not sure who all I should include in my diplomacy post.

Sure, if you like a pirate rouge state.
This account must be deleted. The person behind it is a racist, annoying waste of life that must be shunned back to whatever rock he crawled out from.

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Pimps Inc
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:55 pm

How big is the pirate fleet?
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Ralnis
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 28558
Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:59 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:How big is the pirate fleet?

I don't know really, it will be smaller than the Byzantine I would believe but my tactics are speed and Wolf Pack.
This account must be deleted. The person behind it is a racist, annoying waste of life that must be shunned back to whatever rock he crawled out from.

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:02 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:How big is the pirate fleet?

I don't know really, it will be smaller than the Byzantine I would believe but my tactics are speed and Wolf Pack.

No first rates, right?
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Segmentia
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Founded: Jan 16, 2010
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Segmentia » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:05 pm

I don't get the obsession with First Rates. Nice for a flagship and such, but there is really no need to have more then a dozen, and that's for the largest of navies.
Proud super-heavy tank enthusiast of the Imperium of Man

"We've lost control! Now for the love of Earth...and the Sovereign Colonies, we've got to do what's right."

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Ralnis
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Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:06 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I don't know really, it will be smaller than the Byzantine I would believe but my tactics are speed and Wolf Pack.

No first rates, right?

No, my style of naval combat would make it a hindrance.
This account must be deleted. The person behind it is a racist, annoying waste of life that must be shunned back to whatever rock he crawled out from.

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:07 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Also, what's this blasphemy of killing children and women that you speak of?

Eh?
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:10 pm

Segmentia wrote:I don't get the obsession with First Rates. Nice for a flagship and such, but there is really no need to have more then a dozen, and that's for the largest of navies.

I have four, all of them in use right now for naval bombardment.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:10 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Also, what's this blasphemy of killing children and women that you speak of?

Eh?

Napoleon's speech on convincing France to join the Imperium.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Segmentia
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Posts: 8637
Founded: Jan 16, 2010
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Segmentia » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:13 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Segmentia wrote:I don't get the obsession with First Rates. Nice for a flagship and such, but there is really no need to have more then a dozen, and that's for the largest of navies.

I have four, all of them in use right now for naval bombardment.


Bit of a waste when you consider just how expensive a First Rate ship of the line costs, basically the same as a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier when adjusting the currency of the age. Not to mention the general inaccuracy of naval bombardments of the era. Expensive, but I suppose it's pretty flashy, if wasteful.
Proud super-heavy tank enthusiast of the Imperium of Man

"We've lost control! Now for the love of Earth...and the Sovereign Colonies, we've got to do what's right."

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:13 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Eh?

Napoleon's speech on convincing France to join the Imperium.

No where does he speak of killing of women and children...
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:16 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I have four, all of them in use right now for naval bombardment.


Bit of a waste when you consider just how expensive a First Rate ship of the line costs, basically the same as a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier when adjusting the currency of the age. Not to mention the general inaccuracy of naval bombardments of the era. Expensive, but I suppose it's pretty flashy, if wasteful.

Except two are captured from the Spanish, not built by me. So technically I only paid for the construction of two(even if I still have to maintain them).
And what about against cavalry and infantry in open fields?
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Ralnis
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 28558
Founded: Aug 06, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:17 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:I have four, all of them in use right now for naval bombardment.


Bit of a waste when you consider just how expensive a First Rate ship of the line costs, basically the same as a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier when adjusting the currency of the age. Not to mention the general inaccuracy of naval bombardments of the era. Expensive, but I suppose it's pretty flashy, if wasteful.

Which is why the Pirates have a few second and third rates, speed and wolf pack.
This account must be deleted. The person behind it is a racist, annoying waste of life that must be shunned back to whatever rock he crawled out from.

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Pimps Inc
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:17 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Napoleon's speech on convincing France to join the Imperium.

No where does he speak of killing of women and children...

Whoops, looks like it was Taganian that posted that.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Segmentia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8637
Founded: Jan 16, 2010
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Segmentia » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:19 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Bit of a waste when you consider just how expensive a First Rate ship of the line costs, basically the same as a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier when adjusting the currency of the age. Not to mention the general inaccuracy of naval bombardments of the era. Expensive, but I suppose it's pretty flashy, if wasteful.

Except two are captured from the Spanish, not built by me. So technically I only paid for the construction of two(even if I still have to maintain them).
And what about against cavalry and infantry in open fields?


If you and your enemies are fighting near the coast, I suppose the sheer amount of cannon will be able to cause some damage, but don't expect anything close to it being accurate. Not only would the ship be constantly in motion (Even if anchored, thanks to waves and currents and such), but they would also have to anchor a fair distance away so as to not get stuck on any submerged embankments or get stranded in the shallows as the tides go out.
Proud super-heavy tank enthusiast of the Imperium of Man

"We've lost control! Now for the love of Earth...and the Sovereign Colonies, we've got to do what's right."

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Quirina
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Founded: Dec 30, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Quirina » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:23 pm

Meanwhile, as everyone is bombarding each other with cannons and muskets, I'll be opening trade relations with American states. Also, can we have the co-OP and OP list the nations existing per continent? It's good to have a one-stop reference? ;)
एक, सच, अजेय
The Great Federated Noble States

"Strength determines the fates of the world, and the same should be applied over oppressors." - Maharajah Purva Ashvath IV


Call me Quirina.

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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:24 pm

The ships are in the Mississippi River, with the enemy in heights behind Baton Rouge. Not much waves or currents there.

And, the enemy is charging in open fields in certain areas not far from my ships. Easy pickings.
That and my soldiers marking targets with smoke bombs so the ships can know where to aim.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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