World of Conquest (1815 Alt Hist; Open, OOC)

[Military Lands of the Scottish People]

Okay, that's a ridiculously large force to muster for this time period, and that's already me acknowledging that realism is not exactly a priority here, my own standing army included.

Literally we have been building up for about a century and about 90% of the force is remaining here in the balkans. The navy can only reach italy then retreat to athens. And I am planning on adding attrition and civil unrest in the balkans, maybe a hungarian and Serbian uprising. Also over 5 million were already deployed

[Military Lands of the Scottish People]

And don't think I am going to act like the army can move quick or even be good for offense or to be shipped off. Same for the navy. They will literally have to stay in the balkan range and wouldn't survive if they passed italy.

[Segmentia]

Okay, that's a ridiculously large force to muster for this time period, and that's already me acknowledging that realism is not exactly a priority here, my own standing army included.

Literally we have been building up for about a century and about 90% of the force is remaining here in the balkans. The navy can only reach italy then retreat to athens. And I am planning on adding attrition and civil unrest in the balkans, maybe a hungarian and Serbian uprising. Also over 5 million were already deployed

I'm not even going to begin to point out why this would not work at all. You economy? It's basically going to implode, your production is going to slow to a crawl, and no doubt entire swaths of your nation are going to starve to support that massive a force. Not to mention there is no way you can afford to pay all of those soldiers their salaries, on top of paying to train them, and not to mention the massive cost of the navy on the side.

[Military Lands of the Scottish People]

Literally we have been building up for about a century and about 90% of the force is remaining here in the balkans. The navy can only reach italy then retreat to athens. And I am planning on adding attrition and civil unrest in the balkans, maybe a hungarian and Serbian uprising. Also over 5 million were already deployed

I'm not even going to begin to point out why this would not work at all. You economy? It's basically going to implode, your production is going to slow to a crawl, and no doubt entire swaths of your nation are going to starve to support that massive a force. Not to mention there is no way you can afford to pay all of those soldiers their salaries, on top of paying to train them, and not to mention the massive cost of the navy on the side.

True. I am lowering the navy. And subtracting a million and a half in Anatolia. But let me do my chores

[The Blazing Aura]

I'm not even going to begin to point out why this would not work at all. You economy? It's basically going to implode, your production is going to slow to a crawl, and no doubt entire swaths of your nation are going to starve to support that massive a force. Not to mention there is no way you can afford to pay all of those soldiers their salaries, on top of paying to train them, and not to mention the massive cost of the navy on the side.

True. I am lowering the navy. And subtracting a million and a half in Anatolia. But let me do my chores

I'm assuming the lowering of the navy means taking out at least 75% of those First Rates, IRL Britain didn't have 10 first rates in 1815 and it had the largest navy in the world. (OK, so in 1815 Britain had 6 First Rates at the start and 8 by the end, so that should be a good guide for everyone as to the max amount of First rates they should have. Interestingly in 1815 IRL Britain only had 5 second rates, make of that what you will.)

EDIT: MLotSP, what do you mean by "Ships of the line" in your IC post do you mean the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rate ship you have listed above or do you mean 25 Fourth Rates (as 4th rates also count as "Ships of the line)?

[Halleon]

Reminder to Brazil, we are your ancestors, literally the Roman Empire. Your people will be very unhappy to fight us its like son fighting father.

Also, we are letting America lose some sums of land while they want to annex Mexico. I do not see how that should gain any support except those hungry for war. I am claiming the islands off the Georgian, Carolinian, and Virginian Coasts.

I have to disagree with that statement considering that's almost like saying that the Americans were unhappy to fight against the British in 1812 even though the majority supported that war. Of course the War of 1812 and this war is very different, it doesn't change the fact that the people see the Byzantine Empire as that sick dying Grandfather that should be put out of his misery in the Americas so he can better deal with matters at home.

Good luck trying to annex me, Lol you have some very nasty surprises ahead of you my good sir. This should be fun win or lose.

[Halleon]

To be perfectly clear the Hellenic Republic is staying neutral in the American Mexican War and instead were liberating the Byzantine Colonies that we border since I believe they have sent some large force through the Caribbean to fight the American Imperium which should leave their colonies considerably less defended than usual?

Edit: Considering our shared Greek Heritage and everything else that we share in common, I think if this conflict should escalate that the closure of Hellenic and Byzantine Markets to each other would be painful to both sides.

About 50% of the force is from the homeland. And I wouldn't try 'liberating'. They are practically their own government. I am sure invading us will just practically give me another colony. I'd recommend staying neutral

Fort Alayyet
http://eremita.di.uminho.pt/gutenberg/3 ... us-009.jpg

Natives and rebel militias attacked a fort in New Anatolia. There believed to be a rebel group that wished to form a empire based in Columbia, Venezuela, Peru, and the rest of the west coast. They had a small force, but ours was signifigantly smaller. Only armed with 105 cannons, 45,000 men, and only 10,000 guerilla militia present. Sadly, the over all natives and infantry men (estimates are 500,000). The fort held out for 4 hours. Sadly, the natives used incendiary arrows dripped in lit oil on the wooden defenses. When the walls fell, all the soldiers that surrendered were locked up in select housed while they inhaled deadly fumes. Only 450 survived the attack, with only 10 being part of the forts garrison. Private First Class Hondriak Honduraz, a native athenian, published a story of what happened. It reached national level within a few hours.

I might have read this wrong but it seems like your Colonial Government is struggling to deal with natives, guerrillas and rebels. Instead of dealing with their own problems this Colonial Government declares war against the American Imperium. Wouldn't that make some of the people there Pro-Hellenic for liberation?

[Arulean States]

So, if an op could accept my annexation of China OOC, then I can make it happen IC

[Pimps Inc]

So, any views on the Battle of Baton Rouge?

[Lenciland]

Sorry for disappeari for a few days. I'm back.

[Halleon]

Who all would be interested in diplomatic and trade ties with the Hellenic Republic? Not sure who all I should include in my diplomacy post.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

Jeez wars are so convoluted.

[Halleon]

Jeez wars are so convoluted.

I hope you join us, its been awhile since we've been in the same rp.

[Lenciland]

Who all would be interested in diplomatic and trade ties with the Hellenic Republic? Not sure who all I should include in my diplomacy post.

Oceania would be more than interested in trade with you, but I believe that we will soon be having border disputes because we've both claimed Uruguay.

[Halleon]

Who all would be interested in diplomatic and trade ties with the Hellenic Republic? Not sure who all I should include in my diplomacy post.

Oceania would be more than interested in trade with you, but I believe that we will soon be having border disputes because we've both claimed Uruguay.

Well I think there's three of us that will be having border disputes over Uruguay. I believe the Green Argentina kingdom has also claimed it. Give up the claims on Uruguay and I'm sure something can be worked out. Actually I'll post about some ambassador arriving to speak about that.

[Lenciland]

Oceania would be more than interested in trade with you, but I believe that we will soon be having border disputes because we've both claimed Uruguay.

Well I think there's three of us that will be having border disputes over Uruguay. I believe the Green Argentina kingdom has also claimed it. Give up the claims on Uruguay and I'm sure something can be worked out. Actually I'll post about some ambassador arriving to speak about that.

I'll give up my claim, if you agree to split the lands of the green Argentina nation with me.

[Pimps Inc]

Any predictions for the Imperium-Mexico War?

[Pimps Inc]

Why must Brazil not support their cousins, Mexico?

[The Eastern Antarctic State]

Byzantines, Your military population is way too large if the majority of those are not conscripts...

[Halleon]

Why must Brazil not support their cousins, Mexico?

Main reason would be that the Byzantine Empire is supporting Mexico and their colonies are too tempting to resist. Plus neither side has given much reason to support one over the other and their both Monarchies something Consul Alexander isn't fond of.

[Pimps Inc]

Why must Brazil not support their cousins, Mexico?

Main reason would be that the Byzantine Empire is supporting Mexico and their colonies are too tempting to resist. Plus neither side has given much reason to support one over the other and their both Monarchies something Consul Alexander isn't fond of.

Ending slavery in the Americas
I'm a constitutional monarchy while the Imperium is a absolute monarchy
We're actual Americans, as in belonging to the continent

[Halleon]

Ending slavery in the Americas
I'm a constitutional monarchy while the Imperium is a absolute monarchy
We're actual Americans, as in belonging to the continent

The Hellenic Republic still heavily depends on Slavery even though majority of the slaves have basic rights. Both the Consul and the Senate are more favorable to support fellow Republics in their struggle, although if one side gave enough reason to support them it would be possible to gain the support of the Republic. At the moment it seems neutrality in the American Mexican War is the best course of action. I do plan on having trade ties with both sides since I imagine to fight this war resources and supplies are needed by both sides.

[Acroticus]

Literally we have been building up for about a century and about 90% of the force is remaining here in the balkans. The navy can only reach italy then retreat to athens. And I am planning on adding attrition and civil unrest in the balkans, maybe a hungarian and Serbian uprising. Also over 5 million were already deployed

I'm not even going to begin to point out why this would not work at all. You economy? It's basically going to implode, your production is going to slow to a crawl, and no doubt entire swaths of your nation are going to starve to support that massive a force. Not to mention there is no way you can afford to pay all of those soldiers their salaries, on top of paying to train them, and not to mention the massive cost of the navy on the side.

Yea I am going to have an OP ruling on this and say that 10 million is too many soldiers for the Byzantine Empire to have at this point in time...

Also, not sure how your troops made it to the America before mine, which were sent before them...

[Pimps Inc]

Ending slavery in the Americas
I'm a constitutional monarchy while the Imperium is a absolute monarchy
We're actual Americans, as in belonging to the continent

The Hellenic Republic still heavily depends on Slavery even though majority of the slaves have basic rights. Both the Consul and the Senate are more favorable to support fellow Republics in their struggle, although if one side gave enough reason to support them it would be possible to gain the support of the Republic. At the moment it seems neutrality in the American Mexican War is the best course of action. I do plan on having trade ties with both sides since I imagine to fight this war resources and supplies are needed by both sides.

I'm the most democratic one.....
If I'm not correct, the Imperium's app classes its government as "military dictatorship".

[Pimps Inc]

Btw, Acro, the Imperium fleet is in Mobil, Alabama, so a landing there.....