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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:50 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I'm listing...

No isthmus or Panama then.

I'm going against the Byzantines, I'm not getting that willingly anyway. :p
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Arulean States
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Postby Arulean States » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:51 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Arulean States wrote:China had almost no internal political unrest at this point. They followed the emperor because they saw him as a god. So a unification would pose no problem

With the Japanese at the head?

Why, of course :p
What I'd probably do was have the marriage proposed, with an imperial princess (eldest with no sons) marry the shogun, then have the emperor of China die. Or just bring both China and Japan and both lands under the rulers hip of a greater Shogun/Emperor. Not sure yet, but I'm feeling the megalomania that will lead to my destruction.
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4- Potential threat
3- Active preparations for war
2- Mobilization of Armed reserves and Militias
1- All out war

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Ralnis
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:54 pm

Arulean States wrote:
Ralnis wrote:With the Japanese at the head?

Why, of course :p
What I'd probably do was have the marriage proposed, with an imperial princess (eldest with no sons) marry the shogun, then have the emperor of China die. Or just bring both China and Japan and both lands under the rulers hip of a greater Shogun/Emperor. Not sure yet, but I'm feeling the megalomania that will lead to my destruction.

Without the Chinese Emperor and no one to hold the Mandate of Heaven in the eyes of politicians, there will be fracturing. Might need to bring up another Nobunaga and gets his Ambition.
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:03 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Arulean States wrote:Why, of course :p
What I'd probably do was have the marriage proposed, with an imperial princess (eldest with no sons) marry the shogun, then have the emperor of China die. Or just bring both China and Japan and both lands under the rulers hip of a greater Shogun/Emperor. Not sure yet, but I'm feeling the megalomania that will lead to my destruction.

Without the Chinese Emperor and no one to hold the Mandate of Heaven in the eyes of politicians, there will be fracturing. Might need to bring up another Nobunaga and gets his Ambition.

Why not just install a puppet emperor?
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:13 pm

Ralnis wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:*cough* National Assembly *cough*

So pirates, what if France was to pay you to harass the Sicilians, British and Mexicans that little bit more?

I'm listing...

How does 12 million francs and a couple of Warships sound?
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:16 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I'm listing...

How does 12 million francs and a couple of Warships sound?

But why aid the pox-ridden slavers?
:p
Anyway, the Tripartite will mobilize soon.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Ralnis
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:27 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:How does 12 million francs and a couple of Warships sound?

But why aid the pox-ridden slavers?
:p
Anyway, the Tripartite will mobilize soon.

Pirates don't like slavery, but the Byzantine are in the Caribbean so we Pirates must do what we can to make the Caribbean under the Black Flag. Rouge State or no.
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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:27 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:How does 12 million francs and a couple of Warships sound?

But why aid the pox-ridden slavers?
:p
Anyway, the Tripartite will mobilize soon.

Because the Pox-Ridden traders are trying to fix themselves, and France recognises that. Plus a Bonaparte is getting married to the king, and it doesnt look good if you just do that and abandon them.

France will have its way. If Britian does mobilise against us, well then we'll just get Normandy and Brittany the hardway.
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Halleon
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Halleon » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:28 pm

Wouldn't the pirate make more money if they practiced slavery, I mean taking captives would be pointless unless the hostages you take had the money to be ransomed back to their families etc?
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:31 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:But why aid the pox-ridden slavers?
:p
Anyway, the Tripartite will mobilize soon.

Because the Pox-Ridden traders are trying to fix themselves, and France recognises that. Plus a Bonaparte is getting married to the king, and it doesnt look good if you just do that and abandon them.

France will have its way. If Britian does mobilise against us, well then we'll just get Normandy and Brittany the hardway.

Right, and Byzantium and Sicily don't exist.
Or it's not like the Brits shadow your navy.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Ralnis
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:32 pm

Halleon wrote:Wouldn't the pirate make more money if they practiced slavery, I mean taking captives would be pointless unless the hostages you take had the money to be ransomed back to their families etc?

Considering that I'm more of a Rouge State with 11 million people that has a basic economy and trade, slavery is outlawed to the max. Besides, I'm getting money just off this war alone.

Pimps Inc wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Because the Pox-Ridden traders are trying to fix themselves, and France recognises that. Plus a Bonaparte is getting married to the king, and it doesnt look good if you just do that and abandon them.

France will have its way. If Britian does mobilise against us, well then we'll just get Normandy and Brittany the hardway.

Right, and Byzantium and Sicily don't exist.
Or it's not like the Brits shadow your navy.


Sicily is the only threat I see here, with Byzantium threatened in both the Middle East and in South America, they are facing difficulties.
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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:36 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Because the Pox-Ridden traders are trying to fix themselves, and France recognises that. Plus a Bonaparte is getting married to the king, and it doesnt look good if you just do that and abandon them.

France will have its way. If Britian does mobilise against us, well then we'll just get Normandy and Brittany the hardway.

Right, and Byzantium and Sicily don't exist.
Or it's not like the Brits shadow your navy.

Byzantium and Sicily would need to violate neutral nations to get to me, that leaves an amphibious invasion where? Hey! Near my major naval base of Toulon. If they send to much forces against me, their empires disintegrate due to lack of control.
I have no intentions of invading Britain, just Normandy and Brittany then forcing them to sue for peace. France has the Strongest Land forces in Europe, I'd like to see them launch an invasion.
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:39 pm

Anyone know Wellesley's number......
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Taganian Unfied States
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Postby Taganian Unfied States » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:39 pm

Napoleanic France is one of the strongest nations of the period.... least it was in real-world...

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Postby Segmentia » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:54 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Right, and Byzantium and Sicily don't exist.
Or it's not like the Brits shadow your navy.

Byzantium and Sicily would need to violate neutral nations to get to me, that leaves an amphibious invasion where? Hey! Near my major naval base of Toulon. If they send to much forces against me, their empires disintegrate due to lack of control.
I have no intentions of invading Britain, just Normandy and Brittany then forcing them to sue for peace. France has the Strongest Land forces in Europe, I'd like to see them launch an invasion.


And if Byzantium, Sicily, and Britain, or any combination of them, move against France, France will have the support of Austria.
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Ralnis
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:56 pm

Segmentia wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Byzantium and Sicily would need to violate neutral nations to get to me, that leaves an amphibious invasion where? Hey! Near my major naval base of Toulon. If they send to much forces against me, their empires disintegrate due to lack of control.
I have no intentions of invading Britain, just Normandy and Brittany then forcing them to sue for peace. France has the Strongest Land forces in Europe, I'd like to see them launch an invasion.


And if Byzantium, Sicily, and Britain, or any combination of them, move against France, France will have the support of Austria.

So we skipped the War of 1812 for the First World War? Can't believe the Golden Age of Piracy lasted that long. :p
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:59 pm

Segmentia wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Byzantium and Sicily would need to violate neutral nations to get to me, that leaves an amphibious invasion where? Hey! Near my major naval base of Toulon. If they send to much forces against me, their empires disintegrate due to lack of control.
I have no intentions of invading Britain, just Normandy and Brittany then forcing them to sue for peace. France has the Strongest Land forces in Europe, I'd like to see them launch an invasion.


And if Byzantium, Sicily, and Britain, or any combination of them, move against France, France will have the support of Austria.

Thanks.
Now the Byzantine hordes can push through Austria to reach France, without violating neutral nations.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Ralnis
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ralnis » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:00 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
And if Byzantium, Sicily, and Britain, or any combination of them, move against France, France will have the support of Austria.

Thanks.
Now the Byzantine hordes can push through Austria to reach France, without violating neutral nations.

And let the Islamic Empire push through Byzantine.
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Segmentia
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Postby Segmentia » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:00 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
And if Byzantium, Sicily, and Britain, or any combination of them, move against France, France will have the support of Austria.

Thanks.
Now the Byzantine hordes can push through Austria to reach France, without violating neutral nations.


Right, push through a 2 million man army that is based of the Prussian army, across hostile territory, while waging a war to his south. I'd like to see him try.
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:04 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Thanks.
Now the Byzantine hordes can push through Austria to reach France, without violating neutral nations.


Right, push through a 2 million man army that is based of the Prussian army, across hostile territory, while waging a war to his south. I'd like to see him try.

And Sicily can reach France, as well.
Also, how can France take Normandy from he Brits?
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:06 pm

Segmentia wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Byzantium and Sicily would need to violate neutral nations to get to me, that leaves an amphibious invasion where? Hey! Near my major naval base of Toulon. If they send to much forces against me, their empires disintegrate due to lack of control.
I have no intentions of invading Britain, just Normandy and Brittany then forcing them to sue for peace. France has the Strongest Land forces in Europe, I'd like to see them launch an invasion.


And if Byzantium, Sicily, and Britain, or any combination of them, move against France, France will have the support of Austria.

:hug:

After this war, you can have any chunk of the Byzantines you desire!

This is OOC by the way, the Austrians have no idea that France will give them Byzantine land... Yet. So no need to declare war on them
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The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:07 pm

Slavers......
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Founded: Jun 06, 2014
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:07 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Right, push through a 2 million man army that is based of the Prussian army, across hostile territory, while waging a war to his south. I'd like to see him try.

And Sicily can reach France, as well.
Also, how can France take Normandy from he Brits?

We have a massive Army mate, an Army that will swell with war. They will be taken for the glory of france!
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:08 pm

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:And Sicily can reach France, as well.
Also, how can France take Normandy from he Brits?

We have a massive Army mate, an Army that will swell with war. They will be taken for the glory of france!

We have a Duke of Wellington....
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Segmentia
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Founded: Jan 16, 2010
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Segmentia » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:10 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Right, push through a 2 million man army that is based of the Prussian army, across hostile territory, while waging a war to his south. I'd like to see him try.

And Sicily can reach France, as well.
Also, how can France take Normandy from he Brits?


I've been in talks with Sicily.
And I imagine France will have a significant advantage in terms of force around Normandy for several weeks, no doubt a large French force in the surrounding areas. Where as I imagine the bulk of the British army in not in Normandy, and thus must be mustered from across its empire and then sent to Normandy, by which time a bold and well trained French army could have over run most of Normandy, making landing a force of significant size rather difficult. Not to mention the British must divide their navy, defending their colonies, and as I recall sending ships to fight the American Imperium? So trying to land a large force in Normandy, while being harassed by the French navy.

Not an easy task.
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"We've lost control! Now for the love of Earth...and the Sovereign Colonies, we've got to do what's right."

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