World of Conquest (1815 Alt Hist; Open, OOC)

[The Manticoran Empire]

Right. So you have a bunch of rakes who just happen to be able to blend into ANY nation at the drop of a hat and topple governments of metagame militaries? Right. Even the biggest world power can't do that.

>_> Actually, they can. And they can't blend into any nation. I said a nation. You're making a shitload of assumptions, mate. The only nations I can reliably infiltrate are nations in Europe, and some Indian kingdoms & surrounding territories. Guess what, mate? I CAN infiltrate an enemy nation, and assassinate their leader to topple the regime & destabilize the entire kingdom. It's not all that much different from launching a fully fledged assault.

Guess what? That's the spy game. Get over it.

Espionage is a difficult game. Why do you think the Cold War was fought? BECAUSE NOBODY REALLY KNEW ANYTHING! And that was with spy satellites, telecommunications, and THOUSANDS of spies and analysts on BOTH SIDES! Espionage is not a simple as you think. It is extremely difficult, time consuming, and expensive. Not to mention the fact that if the spy is captured, there is a good bet he or she will turn on you and BOOM you find yourself in a major war with somebody who doesn't like being messed with and you don't know what they have.

[Era the Mind]

>_> Actually, they can. And they can't blend into any nation. I said a nation. You're making a shitload of assumptions, mate. The only nations I can reliably infiltrate are nations in Europe, and some Indian kingdoms & surrounding territories. Guess what, mate? I CAN infiltrate an enemy nation, and assassinate their leader to topple the regime & destabilize the entire kingdom. It's not all that much different from launching a fully fledged assault.

Guess what? That's the spy game. Get over it.

Guess what? Even with modern technology that's a hard thing to do, so don't get too up tight and defensive about something that, let's face it, could be impossible if your spy is not given enough information about the country their infiltrating, and its not like today where you can find most of said information on the internet. Manticoran is right, it would be so easy to metagame with that kind of advantage, and I feel like I should limit the list of places you could reliably infiltrate and succeed in such plans to NPC nations ONLY. Even then I will be keeping a tight eye on you and how you use this, so play it carefully and fairly and you can keep it, don't and I may be forced to take it away from you.

>_> I can't metagame. I have to have replies from other people to know what information I gather. How else am I going to know what I'm getting? I'd just be making crap up if I replied to myself ;-; Sometimes, it would be quite obvious that I would fail. My nation hasn;t encountered the Empire of Japan much, for instance, so trying to infiltrate them would lead to absolute failure, and probably a declaration of war IF they could break my spy.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Preferably the latter, since someone who is in the RP could be biased in favor of their own nation.

I actually meet the requirements for being a World Power. Wanna know why the fuck I do mate? Because I'm active on THREE FUCKING CONTINENTS! Get over yourself, and stop antagonizing me. >_< You're becoming an annoyance.

Yeah. Sure. That automatically qualifies as world power. Territory has nothing to do with it. What matters is INFLUENCE! So many other nations wield more influence than you do with even less territory.

[Lenciland]

Preferably the latter, since someone who is in the RP could be biased in favor of their own nation.

I actually meet the requirements for being a World Power. Wanna know why the fuck I do mate? Because I'm active on THREE FUCKING CONTINENTS! Get over yourself, and stop antagonizing me. >_< You're becoming an annoyance.

I do as well. I operate on technically five. Oceania, Asia, South America, Africa, and I'm technically operating in North America as well. Not to mention my near uncontested control of the South Pacific and indeed my tacit control of the Indian Ocean AND with the Pact between the Empire of Asia and Oceania virtually comfortable in all matters of national defense. Despite all of this and control of large amounts of natural resources and land, I'm still not listed as a World Power. Mate. So I am very concerned with the bias in the ranking system. The Empire of Asia definitely counts as a World Power just look at it.

[Era the Mind]

I actually meet the requirements for being a World Power. Wanna know why the fuck I do mate? Because I'm active on THREE FUCKING CONTINENTS! Get over yourself, and stop antagonizing me. >_< You're becoming an annoyance.

Yeah. Sure. That automatically qualifies as world power. Territory has nothing to do with it. What matters is INFLUENCE! So many other nations wield more influence than you do with even less territory.

I would like you to tell that to me once I crush the little American Imperium :c.

I could cause famine in Europe >_> That's a lot of influence, mate.

[The Blazing Aura]

Guess what? Even with modern technology that's a hard thing to do, so don't get too up tight and defensive about something that, let's face it, could be impossible if your spy is not given enough information about the country their infiltrating, and its not like today where you can find most of said information on the internet. Manticoran is right, it would be so easy to metagame with that kind of advantage, and I feel like I should limit the list of places you could reliably infiltrate and succeed in such plans to NPC nations ONLY. Even then I will be keeping a tight eye on you and how you use this, so play it carefully and fairly and you can keep it, don't and I may be forced to take it away from you.

>_> I can't metagame. I have to have replies from other people to know what information I gather. Sometimes, it would be quite obvious that I would fail. My nation hasn;t encountered the Empire of Japan much, for instance, so trying to infiltrate them would lead to absolute failure, and probably a declaration of war IF they could break my spy.

You could so easily by claiming you have spies everywhere, I know you can because I've done it in the past. What do you mean you'd have to have replies from other people? Are you going to ask people to RP your own spies for you? Also, you wouldn't fit in well, for example, in the Anglo-Kalmar Alliance, what language would you speak? which country would you enter through? what's the currency? That's just off the top of my head.

[The Blazing Aura]

Yeah. Sure. That automatically qualifies as world power. Territory has nothing to do with it. What matters is INFLUENCE! So many other nations wield more influence than you do with even less territory.

I would like you to tell that to me once I crush the little American Imperium :c.

I could cause famine in Europe >_> That's a lot of influence, mate.

That would work a lot better if there was a American Imperium TO crush. Also Lenciland and Arulean States nations are just as much of a World Power if not moreso than you, you've just arrived on a scene they've spent ages at.

[Era the Mind]

Anyways, I'm not interested in having an argument. Can we stop, now? >_>

You guys have known about the RFPS for a while. I made an ENTIRE post about it. I just made sure it was non-metagameable for you guys. So, I don't understand why you're ganging up on me, antagonizing me, and being jerks about it now.

You guys do this too much.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Yeah. Sure. That automatically qualifies as world power. Territory has nothing to do with it. What matters is INFLUENCE! So many other nations wield more influence than you do with even less territory.

I would like you to tell that to me once I crush the little American Imperium :c.

I could cause famine in Europe >_> That's a lot of influence, mate.

The United States of America. Good luck. With a rifle or musket behind every tree, you'll need it.

[The Manticoran Empire]

I will post my IC Constitution in a moment.

[Era the Mind]

I would like you to tell that to me once I crush the little American Imperium :c.

I could cause famine in Europe >_> That's a lot of influence, mate.

The United States of America. Good luck. With a rifle or musket behind every tree, you'll need it.

I have an active military of 3.4 million... I would decimate you. You're not very capable in warfare, compared to larger nations.

[The Manticoran Empire]

The United States of America. Good luck. With a rifle or musket behind every tree, you'll need it.

I have an active military of 3.4 million... I would decimate you. You're not very capable in warfare, compared to larger nations.

Against roughly 10 million militia? Good luck.

[Pimps Inc]

I would like you to tell that to me once I crush the little American Imperium :c.

I could cause famine in Europe >_> That's a lot of influence, mate.

The United States of America. Good luck. With a rifle or musket behind every tree, you'll need it.

I would actually like to try my hand at this, for a while until the news of the ceasefire arrive.
So much talk throughout history about how impossible it would be for a US invasion, I'd like to see firsthand.

[Era the Mind]

I have an active military of 3.4 million... I would decimate you. You're not very capable in warfare, compared to larger nations.

Tell that to the British Empire.

You realize the British Empire just left because they got tired of us, right? LOL America STILL pays their tithe to the British Empire. Yes, I'm American. I was disappointed to find out we still pay them, like we did in colonial times.

The United States of America. Good luck. With a rifle or musket behind every tree, you'll need it.

I would actually like to try my hand at this, for a while until the news of the ceasefire arrive.
So much talk throughout history about how impossible it would be for a US invasion, I'd like to see firsthand.

Thank you ^_^ The Americans in this AH aren't very powerful.

[The Manticoran Empire]

The United States of America. Good luck. With a rifle or musket behind every tree, you'll need it.

I would actually like to try my hand at this, for a while until the news of the ceasefire arrive.
So much talk throughout history about how impossible it would be for a US invasion, I'd like to see firsthand.

In 1812, Britain tried. In 1815, they went home with nothing to show for it.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Tell that to the British Empire.

You realize the British Empire just left because they got tired of us, right? LOL America STILL pays their tithe to the British Empire. Yes, I'm American. I was disappointed to find out we still pay them, like we did in colonial times.

I would actually like to try my hand at this, for a while until the news of the ceasefire arrive.
So much talk throughout history about how impossible it would be for a US invasion, I'd like to see firsthand.

Thank you ^_^ The Americans in this AH aren't very powerful.

Hubris is the Achilles Heel of giants.

[Era the Mind]

You realize the British Empire just left because they got tired of us, right? LOL America STILL pays their tithe to the British Empire. Yes, I'm American. I was disappointed to find out we still pay them, like we did in colonial times.



Thank you ^_^ The Americans in this AH aren't very powerful.

Hubris is the Achilles Heel of giants.

I'm about to be the Achilles Heel of America... ;-;

Not really, nah. I need the trade. :/ They eat food well.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Hubris is the Achilles Heel of giants.

I'm about to be the Achilles Heel of America... ;-;

Not really, nah. I need the trade. :/ They eat food well.

We don't need food. We got plenty.

[The Eastern Antarctic State]

I would actually like to try my hand at this, for a while until the news of the ceasefire arrive.
So much talk throughout history about how impossible it would be for a US invasion, I'd like to see firsthand.

In 1812, Britain tried. In 1815, they went home with nothing to show for it.

Well, after you tried to invade Canada...

[Pimps Inc]

I would actually like to try my hand at this, for a while until the news of the ceasefire arrive.
So much talk throughout history about how impossible it would be for a US invasion, I'd like to see firsthand.

In 1812, Britain tried. In 1815, they went home with nothing to show for it.

Britain was an ocean away.
And the US may have had its success against the delusional excuse for a general Santa Anna, but remember the Punitive Expedition?

[The Manticoran Empire]

In 1812, Britain tried. In 1815, they went home with nothing to show for it.

Well, after you tried to invade Canada...

Yeah. Not really a smart move.

[The Blazing Aura]

Anyways, I'm not interested in having an argument. Can we stop, now? >_>

You guys have known about the RFPS for a while. I made an ENTIRE post about it. I just made sure it was non-metagameable for you guys. So, I don't understand why you're ganging up on me, antagonizing me, and being jerks about it now.

You guys do this too much.

And you were trying so hard to get into my good books the other day...

The reason I didn't see it was because it is hidden under an OOC spoiler when it is distinctly NOT OOC. I normally ignore spoilers if they have OOC on them unless I have good reason to read them, you gave me a good reason to read it, I didn't think that such a thing was fair in the current RP we have, I argued against it, you called me a jerk. I think that pretty much sums it up.

[The Blazing Aura]

Note to self, next time in battle say about distance from walls your army is BEFORE your enemy decides it for you.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Just as soon as I get this war ended, I am going to SERIOUSLY build up my defenses.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Note to self, next time in battle say about distance from walls your army is BEFORE your enemy decides it for you.

At least I didn't say 200 meters. That would have put you in rifle range and American riflemen are notorious for their accuracy.