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Tayner
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Postby Tayner » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:14 pm

Mantacore, btw, after the war, I plan on annexing parts of Wisconsin and Michigan. I'll have to time it to be after the Imperuim loses the war, but before it splits up. I assume there would be a short period between those two events where I could do that without pissing someone off, right?
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The Manticoran Empire
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:17 pm

Tayner wrote:Mantacore, btw, after the war, I plan on annexing parts of Wisconsin and Michigan. I'll have to time it to be after the Imperuim loses the war, but before it splits up. I assume there would be a short period between those two events where I could do that without pissing someone off, right?

Good luck with that. In the inevitable chaos immediately following the split, you can get away with it but eventually, under pressure from Displaced Persons from Michigan and Wisconsin, I would be forced to march over and take them back.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:19 pm

Tayner wrote:Mantacore, btw, after the war, I plan on annexing parts of Wisconsin and Michigan. I'll have to time it to be after the Imperuim loses the war, but before it splits up. I assume there would be a short period between those two events where I could do that without pissing someone off, right?

If you want spoils of war, you're going to have to work for them.
Mexico won't do all the work for you, or the Golden Eagle will fly over Rapid City.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby Evenia » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:21 pm

I thought the USA was forming fro the Imperium government failing... and instead of a civil war. The Imperium lets the northern states break away without fighting if they join the war as well.. I thought that was the agreement? Two different governments~Same objective.

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The Manticoran Empire
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:21 pm

So violent.
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Postby Tayner » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:22 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Tayner wrote:Mantacore, btw, after the war, I plan on annexing parts of Wisconsin and Michigan. I'll have to time it to be after the Imperuim loses the war, but before it splits up. I assume there would be a short period between those two events where I could do that without pissing someone off, right?

Good luck with that. In the inevitable chaos immediately following the split, you can get away with it but eventually, under pressure from Displaced Persons from Michigan and Wisconsin, I would be forced to march over and take them back.

There wouldn't be many displaced citizens, I'm simply annexing them, not running them out. I also don't plan on taking much of either of the states. Maybe 1/4 of Michigan and parts of Wisconsin on the coast of Lake Superior

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Tayner wrote:Mantacore, btw, after the war, I plan on annexing parts of Wisconsin and Michigan. I'll have to time it to be after the Imperuim loses the war, but before it splits up. I assume there would be a short period between those two events where I could do that without pissing someone off, right?

If you want spoils of war, you're going to have to work for them.
Mexico won't do all the work for you, or the Golden Eagle will fly over Rapid City.

I didn't say Mexico would do any work for me.

While we're on the topic, how's that reply to the trade deal going?
If anyone askes where we were Saturday at 14:30, we were at The Pub, understand?

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-No Combat Ready unit has ever passed inspection.
-No Inspection Ready unit has ever passed combat.
-There is nothing more satisfying to you then having the enemy shoot at you, and miss.
-Remember, your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.
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The Manticoran Empire
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:23 pm

Evenia wrote:I thought the USA was forming fro the Imperium government failing... and instead of a civil war. The Imperium lets the northern states break away without fighting if they join the war as well.. I thought that was the agreement? Two different governments~Same objective.

Yeah. That is how it is working. However, the North will have to put their ducks in a row, raise and train a professional army from only 12,000, increase naval power, and then march on the enemies of the Imperium and the USA. (Secret agenda of the USA: Conquest)
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Postby Evenia » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:24 pm

As Quebec is your neighbor... *waves from the other-side of the border* Hi :D

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:24 pm

Tayner wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Good luck with that. In the inevitable chaos immediately following the split, you can get away with it but eventually, under pressure from Displaced Persons from Michigan and Wisconsin, I would be forced to march over and take them back.

There wouldn't be many displaced citizens, I'm simply annexing them, not running them out. I also don't plan on taking much of either of the states. Maybe 1/4 of Michigan and parts of Wisconsin on the coast of Lake Superior

Pimps Inc wrote:If you want spoils of war, you're going to have to work for them.
Mexico won't do all the work for you, or the Golden Eagle will fly over Rapid City.

I didn't say Mexico would do any work for me.

While we're on the topic, how's that reply to the trade deal going?

To get to Michigan you have to go through Wisconsin or Illinois. Militia will not let you have it peacefully. Expect Lexington and Concord type battles in multiple locations against armed citizens who don't like being messed with.
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By the Blood of our Fathers, By the Blood of our Sons, we fight, we die, we sacrifice for the Good of the Empire.

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Postby Evenia » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:25 pm

I JUST NOTICED I HAD QUEBEC BTW XD I been thinking i'd need to invade from France *pushes chess piece forward a little* What would be the population of Quebec?

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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:26 pm

You said you'd take advantage of the chaos to take land. You will have to add to that chaos by taking it yourself, by opening another front.
Trade deal will be included in next post, which will take place inside Imperium territory since Tag has kept posting on army movements without allowing me to respond.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:26 pm

Evenia wrote:I JUST NOTICED I HAD QUEBEC BTW XD I been thinking i'd need to invade from France *pushes chess piece forward a little* What would be the population of Quebec?

20,000-30,000. It's kind of a frontier territory.
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Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


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Postby Evenia » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:27 pm

I always lived by the rule- 1 post a day or ur falling behind.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:27 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:You said you'd take advantage of the chaos to take land. You will have to add to that chaos by taking it yourself, by opening another front.
Trade deal will be included in next post, which will take place inside Imperium territory since Tag has kept posting on army movements without allowing me to respond.

He'd be fighting a guerilla war and the citizens would demand government troops to help. So yes, opening another front in this war. Damn.
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:27 pm

Evenia wrote:I JUST NOTICED I HAD QUEBEC BTW XD I been thinking i'd need to invade from France *pushes chess piece forward a little* What would be the population of Quebec?

Army movements in Canada at this point of year would be tricky.
Armies move/assemble in the spring, especially in cold areas like Quebec.
See you in June.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Evenia
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Postby Evenia » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:29 pm

I kid. My predescceor of France will be rebelling against me. Eh and I just wave and smile good-bye XD

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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:29 pm

Evenia wrote:I always lived by the rule- 1 post a day or ur falling behind.

I waited for Tag when she was in her bad moods, why can't she?

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:You said you'd take advantage of the chaos to take land. You will have to add to that chaos by taking it yourself, by opening another front.
Trade deal will be included in next post, which will take place inside Imperium territory since Tag has kept posting on army movements without allowing me to respond.

He'd be fighting a guerilla war and the citizens would demand government troops to help. So yes, opening another front in this war. Damn.

Government troops are pretty occupied.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:30 pm

Rule of thumb for military movements: Plan, assemble, and train in the winter, begin initial moves in spring, pitched actions in summer, final movements and consolidation in fall.
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Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


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Evenia
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Postby Evenia » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:30 pm

I do not know on tht one Pimps. Message her the sit and im sure she will calm down.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:30 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Evenia wrote:I JUST NOTICED I HAD QUEBEC BTW XD I been thinking i'd need to invade from France *pushes chess piece forward a little* What would be the population of Quebec?

20,000-30,000. It's kind of a frontier territory.

No, when napoleon took power he made it an issue to populate it. It has around 1.5 million now because of his policies...
This ensues
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:31 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:Rule of thumb for military movements: Plan, assemble, and train in the winter, begin initial moves in spring, pitched actions in summer, final movements and consolidation in fall.

Takes time, though.
Snow hampers assembling of supplies and men greatly.
The fact still stands that it's barely January.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:33 pm

Population of Quebec according to Wikipedia(I know) was 335,000-ish.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:34 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Population of Quebec according to Wikipedia(I know) was 335,000-ish.

It is AH, no?
This ensues
The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
I enjoy playing/watching Cricket and Rugby League every now and then. Love me some history and paradox games. Studying at University. Catholic. You can call me TEAS or EAS

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The Manticoran Empire
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:34 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Evenia wrote:I always lived by the rule- 1 post a day or ur falling behind.

I waited for Tag when she was in her bad moods, why can't she?

The Manticoran Empire wrote:He'd be fighting a guerilla war and the citizens would demand government troops to help. So yes, opening another front in this war. Damn.

Government troops are pretty occupied.

Not all of them. There are several forts in the Northern states, each with a garrison of Federal troops. Those troops could then train volunteers and conscripts by the 100s and form a new army over the winter months. In spring, they will march for Michigan and Wisconsin, continuing their training as they march. By the summer, they will be in a position to either threaten supply lines (wagons can only move along paths or roads, which are not very common) or force a battle. Though, in all likelihood, it will be mainly infantry since cavalry requires horse and artillery is expensive.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Tayner » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:35 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Tayner wrote:There wouldn't be many displaced citizens, I'm simply annexing them, not running them out. I also don't plan on taking much of either of the states. Maybe 1/4 of Michigan and parts of Wisconsin on the coast of Lake Superior


I didn't say Mexico would do any work for me.

While we're on the topic, how's that reply to the trade deal going?

To get to Michigan you have to go through Wisconsin or Illinois. Militia will not let you have it peacefully. Expect Lexington and Concord type battles in multiple locations against armed citizens who don't like being messed with.

Actually, I said it backwards. I was planning on getting 1/4is of northwestern Wisconsin and parts of Michigan that are on Lake Superior via naval transport.

Pimps Inc wrote:You said you'd take advantage of the chaos to take land. You will have to add to that chaos by taking it yourself, by opening another front.
Trade deal will be included in next post, which will take place inside Imperium territory since Tag has kept posting on army movements without allowing me to respond.

I'll take the land after the Imperuim falls, I'm not opening another front before the war is over because 1) I don't have a real army to do so, and 2) The Imperuim's fall is imminent. If you have a problem with me capitalizing on the chaos by taking lands you would never get to before the Imperuim got its ducks in line, I could always recede my trade offer and secretly help the Imperuim.
If anyone askes where we were Saturday at 14:30, we were at The Pub, understand?

-If it's stupid, but it works, it ain't stupid.
-No Combat Ready unit has ever passed inspection.
-No Inspection Ready unit has ever passed combat.
-There is nothing more satisfying to you then having the enemy shoot at you, and miss.
-Remember, your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.
Disclaimer: The sig is out of date and I probably won't update it

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