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Cabana
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Postby Cabana » Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:16 am

Serio wrote:NS Name:Serio
Group Name:The army of Viet Minh
Territory:The Mountains north of Hanoi
Flag: http://i.imgur.com/biKlLpL.png
Head of Group: Ho Chi Minh
Members: Around 40,000 strong and growing
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist
History: Vietnam yearns to be free from the shackles of French tyranny, Ho Chi Minh and his army plan to strike off these chains of colonialism and create a new Vietnamese Workers Union. After traveling the world Ho Chi Minh found his way to France, shortly after he got there he was arrested for voicing his opinions about his enslaved homeland, He dreamed of a free Vietnam, but the Imperialistic French wouldn't hear his voice. He was deported back to Vietnam soon after. When he got back to his homeland he quickly set to work gathering support. His ranks swelled with many connections in the villages of the north and south eventually setting up a base in the northern mountains. He sent out a call to all true Vietnamese patriots to rise up and join the Viet Minh army. Soon he will march on his home country, lighting the darkness of colonialism with his army and defeating the French!
Goals: Free Vietnam from the slavery of Colonialism and create the Workers Union of Vietnam!
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Denied, the Viet Minh was created in 1941 and Minh was living in France at the time.
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Postby Igoria » Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:30 am

Cabana wrote:
Serio wrote:NS Name:Serio
Group Name:The army of Viet Minh
Territory:The Mountains north of Hanoi
Flag: http://i.imgur.com/biKlLpL.png
Head of Group: Ho Chi Minh
Members: Around 40,000 strong and growing
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist
History: Vietnam yearns to be free from the shackles of French tyranny, Ho Chi Minh and his army plan to strike off these chains of colonialism and create a new Vietnamese Workers Union. After traveling the world Ho Chi Minh found his way to France, shortly after he got there he was arrested for voicing his opinions about his enslaved homeland, He dreamed of a free Vietnam, but the Imperialistic French wouldn't hear his voice. He was deported back to Vietnam soon after. When he got back to his homeland he quickly set to work gathering support. His ranks swelled with many connections in the villages of the north and south eventually setting up a base in the northern mountains. He sent out a call to all true Vietnamese patriots to rise up and join the Viet Minh army. Soon he will march on his home country, lighting the darkness of colonialism with his army and defeating the French!
Goals: Free Vietnam from the slavery of Colonialism and create the Workers Union of Vietnam!
1337-DO NOT REMOVE

Denied, the Viet Minh was created in 1941 and Minh was living in France at the time.

Fun fact, I'm pretty sure he worked as a waiter in the hotel where Llyod-George and the British delegation stayed while signing the Treaty of Versailles.
I'm a somewhat constitutional hereditary monarchy.

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Cabana
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Postby Cabana » Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:35 am

Igoria wrote:
Cabana wrote:Denied, the Viet Minh was created in 1941 and Minh was living in France at the time.

Fun fact, I'm pretty sure he worked as a waiter in the hotel where Lloyd-George and the British delegation stayed while signing the Treaty of Versailles.

He actually did, he also asked Woodrow Wilson if the French could loosen up a bit on Indochina and Wilson said no.

And here's a pic of him from 1921:
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Postby American SSR » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:56 am

So, is the Mongolian People's Republic claims northern Mongolia, southern Mongolia, western Mongolia, or Eastern Mongolia? Plus, I'll edit my app.

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Postby American SSR » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:03 am

General Information
NS Name: American SSR
Nation Name: Mongolian People's Republic
Flag: The MPR flag
Territory: Northern Mongolia
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist single party state
Head of State: Premier Dogsomyn Bodoo
Head of Government: Premier Dogsomyn Bodoo
Population: 555,619
Civil Rights: 4/10
Economic Freedom: 5/10
Political Freedom: 2/10
Standard of Living: 5/10
Technological Advancement: 6/10
Military Number: 95,000 active and 5,000 reserve for the Mongolian People's Republic
History: Mongolia has been under a weaken Qing rule ever since the 1600s. Mongolia gained independence from the Qing Dynasty and became the Bogd Khanate in 1911 however the Khanate was also a weak state just like the Qing Dynasty; the Mongols rebelled against the Khanate government with a new and a unique ideology; communism. Ever since Russia fell into a civil war, communism has been spread throughout Asia and Europe and the civil war in Mongolia has just started between the Mongolian People's Republic and the Bogd Khanate but there was a cease-fire between the Mongolian People's Republic and the Bogd Khanate, thus; the Mongolian People's Republic proclaimed its sovereignty in northern Mongolia however Premier Bodoo has a plans to invade the Bogd Khanate and overthrow them in Ulaanbatar.
1337-DO NOT REMOVE

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Postby Igoria » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:32 am

American SSR wrote:General Information
NS Name: American SSR
Nation Name: Mongolian People's Republic
Flag: The MPR flag
Territory: Northern Mongolia
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist single party state
Head of State: Premier Dogsomyn Bodoo
Head of Government: Premier Dogsomyn Bodoo
Population: 555,619
Civil Rights: 4/10
Economic Freedom: 5/10
Political Freedom: 2/10
Standard of Living: 5/10
Technological Advancement: 6/10
Military Number: 95,000 active and 5,000 reserve for the Mongolian People's Republic
History: Mongolia has been under a weaken Qing rule ever since the 1600s. Mongolia gained independence from the Qing Dynasty and became the Bogd Khanate in 1911 however the Khanate was also a weak state just like the Qing Dynasty; the Mongols rebelled against the Khanate government with a new and a unique ideology; communism. Ever since Russia fell into a civil war, communism has been spread throughout Asia and Europe and the civil war in Mongolia has just started between the Mongolian People's Republic and the Bogd Khanate but there was a cease-fire between the Mongolian People's Republic and the Bogd Khanate, thus; the Mongolian People's Republic proclaimed its sovereignty in northern Mongolia however Premier Bodoo has a plans to invade the Bogd Khanate and overthrow them in Ulaanbatar.
1337-DO NOT REMOVE

How is it that 1/5 of your population is in the military?
I'm a somewhat constitutional hereditary monarchy.

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:34 am

Igoria wrote:
American SSR wrote:General Information
NS Name: American SSR
Nation Name: Mongolian People's Republic
Flag: The MPR flag
Territory: Northern Mongolia
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist single party state
Head of State: Premier Dogsomyn Bodoo
Head of Government: Premier Dogsomyn Bodoo
Population: 555,619
Civil Rights: 4/10
Economic Freedom: 5/10
Political Freedom: 2/10
Standard of Living: 5/10
Technological Advancement: 6/10
Military Number: 95,000 active and 5,000 reserve for the Mongolian People's Republic
History: Mongolia has been under a weaken Qing rule ever since the 1600s. Mongolia gained independence from the Qing Dynasty and became the Bogd Khanate in 1911 however the Khanate was also a weak state just like the Qing Dynasty; the Mongols rebelled against the Khanate government with a new and a unique ideology; communism. Ever since Russia fell into a civil war, communism has been spread throughout Asia and Europe and the civil war in Mongolia has just started between the Mongolian People's Republic and the Bogd Khanate but there was a cease-fire between the Mongolian People's Republic and the Bogd Khanate, thus; the Mongolian People's Republic proclaimed its sovereignty in northern Mongolia however Premier Bodoo has a plans to invade the Bogd Khanate and overthrow them in Ulaanbatar.
1337-DO NOT REMOVE

How is it that 1/5 of your population is in the military?

I think it is ok. They are in the middle of a revolution and the population is so low it is probably needed.
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Postby Serio » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:16 am

: ( I would really enjoy playing a Vietnamese rebellion
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Postby Serio » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:20 am

Cabana wrote:
Serio wrote:NS Name:Serio
Group Name:The army of Viet Minh
Territory:The Mountains north of Hanoi
Flag: http://i.imgur.com/biKlLpL.png
Head of Group: Ho Chi Minh
Members: Around 40,000 strong and growing
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist
History: Vietnam yearns to be free from the shackles of French tyranny, Ho Chi Minh and his army plan to strike off these chains of colonialism and create a new Vietnamese Workers Union. After traveling the world Ho Chi Minh found his way to France, shortly after he got there he was arrested for voicing his opinions about his enslaved homeland, He dreamed of a free Vietnam, but the Imperialistic French wouldn't hear his voice. He was deported back to Vietnam soon after. When he got back to his homeland he quickly set to work gathering support. His ranks swelled with many connections in the villages of the north and south eventually setting up a base in the northern mountains. He sent out a call to all true Vietnamese patriots to rise up and join the Viet Minh army. Soon he will march on his home country, lighting the darkness of colonialism with his army and defeating the French!
Goals: Free Vietnam from the slavery of Colonialism and create the Workers Union of Vietnam!
1337-DO NOT REMOVE

Denied, the Viet Minh was created in 1941 and Minh was living in France at the time.


Could I use a different name for it? (after all this is an alternate history and some things are going to be different), Or is it just the whole Ho Chi Minh thing in general that i can't do. (by the way in my history I did explain how Minh made his way back to Vietnam)
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Postby American SSR » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:35 am

Igoria wrote:
American SSR wrote:General Information
NS Name: American SSR
Nation Name: Mongolian People's Republic
Flag: The MPR flag
Territory: Northern Mongolia
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist single party state
Head of State: Premier Dogsomyn Bodoo
Head of Government: Premier Dogsomyn Bodoo
Population: 555,619
Civil Rights: 4/10
Economic Freedom: 5/10
Political Freedom: 2/10
Standard of Living: 5/10
Technological Advancement: 6/10
Military Number: 95,000 active and 5,000 reserve for the Mongolian People's Republic
History: Mongolia has been under a weaken Qing rule ever since the 1600s. Mongolia gained independence from the Qing Dynasty and became the Bogd Khanate in 1911 however the Khanate was also a weak state just like the Qing Dynasty; the Mongols rebelled against the Khanate government with a new and a unique ideology; communism. Ever since Russia fell into a civil war, communism has been spread throughout Asia and Europe and the civil war in Mongolia has just started between the Mongolian People's Republic and the Bogd Khanate but there was a cease-fire between the Mongolian People's Republic and the Bogd Khanate, thus; the Mongolian People's Republic proclaimed its sovereignty in northern Mongolia however Premier Bodoo has a plans to invade the Bogd Khanate and overthrow them in Ulaanbatar.
1337-DO NOT REMOVE

How is it that 1/5 of your population is in the military?

Most of them are conscripts and revolutionaries, is there any problem with that?

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Postby American SSR » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:37 am

Sanabel wrote:
Igoria wrote:How is it that 1/5 of your population is in the military?

I think it is ok. They are in the middle of a revolution and the population is so low it is probably needed.

For your information, Mongolia has 1 million population which its growing rapidly in the early 1920s which is why I have 500,000+ population in my nation while the Bogd Khanate has also 500,000+ population.

So am I accepted or no?

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Postby Igoria » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:40 am

American SSR wrote:
Igoria wrote:How is it that 1/5 of your population is in the military?

Most of them are conscripts and revolutionaries, is there any problem with that?

Well, 1/5 of your total pop pretty much means that something like 80% of your able-bodied adult men are in the army, so who is doing the other civilian jobs? Such high troop numbers will have a devastating impact on your economy and general running of the country.
I'm a somewhat constitutional hereditary monarchy.

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Postby American SSR » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:45 am

Igoria wrote:
American SSR wrote:Most of them are conscripts and revolutionaries, is there any problem with that?

Well, 1/5 of your total pop pretty much means that something like 80% of your able-bodied adult men are in the army, so who is doing the other civilian jobs? Such high troop numbers will have a devastating impact on your economy and general running of the country.

The other civilian jobs are either farmers, engineers, medics, etc.

Plus, MPR is a Marxist-Leninist totalitarian which will eliminate poverty at all cost due the people has a 'statehood'. You do know that totalitarianism or fascism eliminates poverty since the people always participated in the govenment's activities.

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Postby Igoria » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:50 am

American SSR wrote:
Igoria wrote:Well, 1/5 of your total pop pretty much means that something like 80% of your able-bodied adult men are in the army, so who is doing the other civilian jobs? Such high troop numbers will have a devastating impact on your economy and general running of the country.

The other civilian jobs are either farmers, engineers, medics, etc.

Plus, MPR is a Marxist-Leninist totalitarian which will eliminate poverty at all cost due the people has a 'statehood'. You do know that totalitarianism or fascism eliminates poverty since the people always participated in the govenment's activities.

I'm not sure you get my point. The fact that 80% of your workforce has been transformed into cannon fodder means your economy will die.
I'm a somewhat constitutional hereditary monarchy.

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Postby American SSR » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:23 am

Igoria wrote:
American SSR wrote:The other civilian jobs are either farmers, engineers, medics, etc.

Plus, MPR is a Marxist-Leninist totalitarian which will eliminate poverty at all cost due the people has a 'statehood'. You do know that totalitarianism or fascism eliminates poverty since the people always participated in the govenment's activities.

I'm not sure you get my point. The fact that 80% of your workforce has been transformed into cannon fodder means your economy will die.

I don't need economy.

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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:24 am

American SSR wrote:
Igoria wrote:I'm not sure you get my point. The fact that 80% of your workforce has been transformed into cannon fodder means your economy will die.

I don't need economy.

Yes you do. Especially if you want to continue the war.
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Postby American SSR » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:26 am

Soviet Chernarus wrote:
American SSR wrote:I don't need economy.

Yes you do. Especially if you want to continue the war.

Fine then.

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:48 am

American SSR wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I think it is ok. They are in the middle of a revolution and the population is so low it is probably needed.

For your information, Mongolia has 1 million population which its growing rapidly in the early 1920s which is why I have 500,000+ population in my nation while the Bogd Khanate has also 500,000+ population.

So am I accepted or no?

I was defending you. Sass not needed or wanted.

But you are accepted.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Postby Sanabel » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:49 am

Sanabel wrote:
American SSR wrote:For your information, Mongolia has 1 million population which its growing rapidly in the early 1920s which is why I have 500,000+ population in my nation while the Bogd Khanate has also 500,000+ population.

So am I accepted or no?

I was defending you. Sass not needed or wanted.

But you are accepted.

But learn about econ and war a bit.
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:51 am

American SSR wrote:
Igoria wrote:Well, 1/5 of your total pop pretty much means that something like 80% of your able-bodied adult men are in the army, so who is doing the other civilian jobs? Such high troop numbers will have a devastating impact on your economy and general running of the country.

The other civilian jobs are either farmers, engineers, medics, etc.

Plus, MPR is a Marxist-Leninist totalitarian which will eliminate poverty at all cost due the people has a 'statehood'. You do know that totalitarianism or fascism eliminates poverty since the people always participated in the govenment's activities.

Yes, because Maoist China's population had no poverty. Vietnam has no poverty. /sarcasm
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


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Postby Das Germane imperie » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:03 am

Posted in IC. Sorry that I had not done that yet, but I have been busy.
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Postby Cabana » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:13 am

Serio wrote:
Cabana wrote:Denied, the Viet Minh was created in 1941 and Minh was living in France at the time.


Could I use a different name for it? (after all this is an alternate history and some things are going to be different), Or is it just the whole Ho Chi Minh thing in general that i can't do. (by the way in my history I did explain how Minh made his way back to Vietnam)

You gotta use nations from the roster.
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:14 am

I think we could potentially have an anti-colonial movement in Indochina. Minh would not be involved, perhaps it would be Japanese supported. But it wouldn't be communist. This is AH, and with all the successful revolutions in Europe, I think this is possible for the people to be rallied into this. It might be a stretch, but I think if fleshed out it is possible.

I know it isn't on the roster. But it could be.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
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Postby Igoria » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:17 am

Sanabel wrote:I think we could potentially have an anti-colonial movement in Indochina. Minh would not be involved, perhaps it would be Japanese supported. But it wouldn't be communist. This is AH, and with all the successful revolutions in Europe, I think this is possible for the people to be rallied into this. It might be a stretch, but I think if fleshed out it is possible.

I know it isn't on the roster. But it could be.

This makes sense.
I'm a somewhat constitutional hereditary monarchy.

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Postby Bering » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:20 am

Columbivia wrote:I'll employ the dregs then.

Time to start looking up famous German Generals! :p
Meet Erwin Rommel the Arizona Fox :p

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