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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:01 am

Senkaku wrote:Damnit, I was going to be Mexico.

;-;


Notice I said invade, not declare war on.

If the Mexican government collaborates with mine, I can come in and root out the banditos rather quickly. However, if you are hostile ey look new states.

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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:05 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:So many factions to support in South America, who to choose...

Also, can I ask what you all expect the two sides of the Great War to be?

As china, i'll probably go Alliance to get at pro-British japan. If the US and one or two South american players also go Alliance, then we can have a proper global shindig

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:06 am

Jade Confederacy wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:So many factions to support in South America, who to choose...

Also, can I ask what you all expect the two sides of the Great War to be?

As china, i'll probably go Alliance to get at pro-British japan. If the US and one or two South american players also go Alliance, then we can have a proper global shindig


We are staying isolationist unless we have a reason not to be.

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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:08 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:We are staying isolationist unless we have a reason not to be.

Thats no fun though. Dont you want to size the opportunity to get at British Canada and the rest of her colonies in the Western hemisphere?

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:10 am

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The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:We are staying isolationist unless we have a reason not to be.

Thats no fun though. Dont you want to size the opportunity to get at British Canada and the rest of her colonies in the Western hemisphere?


What.

Britain is a friend of ours, Columbia is essentially going to take whatever side Britain does. You know that whole powerful Anglophiles thing.

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:16 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Until the Brits enter the war Columbia will be silent. We have a lot of powerful and influential Anglophiles, but getting us in the war won't be easy.

Besides, I am probably going to have to invade Mexico, so.

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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:18 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:What.

Britain is a friend of ours, Columbia is essentially going to take whatever side Britain does. You know that whole powerful Anglophiles thing.

Since when are there "friends" in geopolitics? Right now the US and UK are direct economic competitors, you go for the same markets and make the same products. If you remove the British then you can have effective control over the entire western hemisphere instead of being just the biggest dog in the kennel

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:19 am

Jade Confederacy wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:What.

Britain is a friend of ours, Columbia is essentially going to take whatever side Britain does. You know that whole powerful Anglophiles thing.

Since when are there "friends" in geopolitics? Right now the US and UK are direct economic competitors, you go for the same markets and make the same products. If you remove the British then you can have effective control over the entire western hemisphere instead of being just the biggest dog in the kennel


Yawn, boring and also bullshit.

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The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Until the Brits enter the war Columbia will be silent. We have a lot of powerful and influential Anglophiles, but getting us in the war won't be easy.

Besides, I am probably going to have to invade Mexico, so.


Gib Greenland now
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:21 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Yawn, boring and also bullshit.

meh, never get why the US players always choose to invade mexico instead of Canada. If the US stays out of the fight, then the Americas would be more of a none issue in the coming fight

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:23 am

Jade Confederacy wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Yawn, boring and also bullshit.

meh, never get why the US players always choose to invade mexico instead of Canada. If the US stays out of the fight, then the Americas would be more of a none issue in the coming fight


Well I mean I have an actual issue in Mexico, Bandiots. I have actual friends in Canada, they're called Canadians.

Why invade a friendly nation and fight a war for nothing, especially when your army is a joke and you are having issues with banditos.

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:27 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:

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Postby Elepis » Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:59 am

Elepis wrote:
Generic Info
Nation Name: Empire of Japan
Symbols: Flag
Seal
Naval Flag
Homeland Population: 75 million
Imperial Population: 32 million in Korea, 10 million in Taiwan and bits of China
Location/Claims: Japan (including southern Sakhalin), Korea, Taiwan, Suzhou City, Shandong (apart from Tsingtao) and Dalian peninsulars , also this thingy
Capital City: Tokyo

Government Info
Government Type:Constitutional monarchy with bicarmal parliament, Emperor as Head of State but heavy influence over government
Brief Explanation of Government: Ermm, can I answer with an infograph?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Politics_Under_Meiji_Constitution_02.svg/1100px-Politics_Under_Meiji_Constitution_02.svg.png
Ideology: Imperialism, Monarchism, Shintoism, Chauvinism, Jingosim
Leader/s: Emperor Taishō, Prime Minister Katsura Tarō

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Mostly ethnic Japanese, in the islands of Hokkaido has a native Ainu population while Sakhalin as a small Russian population. Korea has a Korean population (duh) and its other colonies are mostly Chinese dominated.
Religion: Shintoism and Buddhism
Ethnicity: Japanese
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Japanese, various Europeans who we want to get on with
Other Cultures: Korean, Chinese, Ainu

Military Info
Army:
Imperial Japanese Army: 1,200,000. Well equipped, well trained, well led and well motivated. Almost without a doubt the most effective land army in Asia. It is a veteran three major international conflicts, the Sino-Japanese War, the Boxer Rebellion and Russo-Japanese War. In all three of these conflicts (apart from perhaps the Boxers) the IJA/IJN took on and defeated much larger countries, China and Russia respectively.
Navy:
Imperial Japanese Navy (Like the Army, it is modeled on European forces and is the largest and most effective in Asia, winning stunning victories in both the Sin-Japanese war and the Russo-Japanese War, most notably at Tushima):
-Dreadnoughts: 6
-Pre-dreadnought battleships: 18
-Armoured cruisers: 12
-Protected cruisers: 24
-Light/scout cruisers: 3
-Destroyers: 50
-Submarines: 27
-30 Torpedo boats

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Japan emerged from the Tokugawa-Meiji transition as the first Asian industrialized nation. From the onset, the Meiji rulers embraced the concept of a market economy and adopted British and North American forms of free enterprise capitalism. Rapid growth and structural change characterized Japan's two periods of economic development after 1868. Initially, the economy grew only moderately and relied heavily on traditional Japanese agriculture to finance modern industrial infrastructure. By the time the Russo-Japanese War began in 1904, 65% of employment and 38% of the gross domestic product (GDP) were still based on agriculture, but modern industry had begun to expand substantially. Know, manufacturing and mining amounted to 34% of GDP, compared with 20% for all of agriculture. Transportation and communications developed to sustain heavy industrial development.

From 1894, Japan built an extensive empire that included Taiwan, Korea, and parts of northern China. The Japanese regarded this sphere of influence as a political and economic necessity, which prevented foreign states from strangling Japan by blocking its access to raw materials and crucial sea-lanes. Japan's large military force was regarded as essential to the empire's defense and prosperity by obtaining natural resources that the Japanese islands lacked.
Goals:
Build good relations with Britain and America, get stable relations with Russia
Acquire Resources
Halt Chinese "modernization"
Keep China fractured and weak
Acquire Manchuria
Become arbiter of the East Pacific
History:
really the same as RL Japan, however, after the Sino-Japanese War, Japan demands slightly larger reparations from China. These amount to control over the cities of Suzhou near Shanghai and ports on the Shandong and Dailan peninsulas. After the Boxer Rebellion, Japan refuses to withdraw its troops from Beijing until China sign over the entirety of Shandong and Dailan over to the Empire.
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Military numbers were educated guesses (from others Apps and later wars), history is a bit small but there are only really two changes.
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Postby Elepis » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:01 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Jade Confederacy wrote:meh, never get why the US players always choose to invade mexico instead of Canada. If the US stays out of the fight, then the Americas would be more of a none issue in the coming fight


Well I mean I have an actual issue in Mexico, Bandiots. I have actual friends in Canada, they're called Canadians.

Why invade a friendly nation and fight a war for nothing, especially when your army is a joke and you are having issues with banditos.


Also, invading Canada would really annoy Britain (the most powerful country on earth save perhaps Germany) and maybe France and Russia as well

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Jade Confederacy wrote:As china, i'll probably go Alliance to get at pro-British japan. If the US and one or two South american players also go Alliance, then we can have a proper global shindig


We are staying isolationist unless we have a reason not to be.


Would you be willing to ally to Japan in return for a port in Japanese controlled Shandong (not Tsingtao, that is German)?
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:13 am

I would be more than willing to meet Japan at the negotiating table to hammer out an agreement. The Pacific is probably going to become a Columbian playground, the U.S. has great interests there.

The Progressives have silent intentions on granting the Philippines statehood. So partners in that region is key to security.

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Postby Elepis » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:23 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:I would be more than willing to meet Japan at the negotiating table to hammer out an agreement. The Pacific is probably going to become a Columbian playground, the U.S. has great interests there.

The Progressives have silent intentions on granting the Philippines statehood. So partners in that region is key to security.


Good, at present Japan has few interests in anywhere south of Taiwan, however we would be willing to sign a protection agreement with an independent Philippines if the US wished that. Japan would also not mind America gobbling up more islands in the Indonesia area if they wanted that.

At the moment, the Emperor's attention is on China
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:27 am

Lovely.

When I say statehood I mean making it the 49th state. A Cuba-esq arrangement would be horrendous.

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Postby Elepis » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:33 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Lovely.

When I say statehood I mean making it the 49th state. A Cuba-esq arrangement would be horrendous.


oh, I thought you meant an independent state, we can still help/protect it though
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:39 am

Lovely, I am certainly willing to supply you with arms, etc. if needed for your Chinese ambitions.

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Postby Elepis » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:39 am

Japan, Columbia and the UK could form the Grand Undecided Who To Back Alliance and have everyone beg for our help.
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Elepis » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:40 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Lovely, I am certainly willing to supply you with arms, etc. if needed for your Chinese ambitions.


Thank you my good sir
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:41 am

Reservation:
Location: Ethiopia
Nation Name: Ethiopian Empire
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If Ethiopia has been reserved or part of another country, then I will reserve other nation which will be stated below.

Reservation:
Location: Belgium
Nation Name: Kingdom of Belgium
635 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.
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Altito Asmoro wrote:You people can call me...AA. Or Alt.
Or Tito.

I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Postby Elepis » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:42 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:Reservation:
Location: Ethiopia
Nation Name: Ethiopian Empire
635 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

If Ethiopia has been reserved or part of another country, then I will reserve other nation which will be stated below.

Reservation:
Location: Belgium
Nation Name: Kingdom of Belgium
635 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.


I think Ethiopia is taken by the Italy player, however there was some disagreement over his colonies so it may yet be open. Belgium is very open though
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:43 am

Elepis wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:Reservation:
Location: Ethiopia
Nation Name: Ethiopian Empire
635 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

If Ethiopia has been reserved or part of another country, then I will reserve other nation which will be stated below.

Reservation:
Location: Belgium
Nation Name: Kingdom of Belgium
635 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.


I think Ethiopia is taken by the Italy player, however there was some disagreement over his colonies so it may yet be open. Belgium is very open though


Thanks, Elepis. I think I'll set up Belgium's app tomorrow.
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I'm calling you "non-aligned comrade."

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:44 am

Belgium is literally just Flanders.

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:45 am

Elepis wrote:Japan, Columbia and the UK could form the Grand Undecided Who To Back Alliance and have everyone beg for our help.


That would be interesting.

You know I like the idea of establishing the Siberian Territory...

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