The Dogs of War [OOC|Open]

[Elepis]

Decided on a Qing China instead of a Republic. Didnt want to play as Yuan Shikai. Hes a fat womanizing piece of shit. Gona purge him as soon as the RP starts

Generic Info
Nation Name: Qing Empire (Empire of China)
Symbols: (Image)
Homeland Population: 439million
Imperial Population: ^
Location/Claims: Qing borders 1912-http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/styles/fullsize/public/China_1000.jpg?itok=CMko7j__
Capital City: Beijing

Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Brief Explanation of Government: The legislative Yuan performs as the lawmaking body of the Empire but has been put on indefinite recess. All powers of law and order currently reside with the Council of Viceroys and the executive Office of the Chancellery. The Emperor is supposed to be the de-facto head of states, but that power has been transferred to the Regent until the Emperor comes of age.
Ideology: Sino-Centrism, Neo-Confucianism
Leader/s: Chancellor Kang Youwei & Prince-Regent Zaifeng Chun; various marshals and viceroys

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: three dozen flavors of Chinese with the Han people being the super majority and taking up 90% of the population. Mongolians and Tibetans consider themselves vassal kingdoms under the Chinese and strive for complete autonomy. The Turkmens of Xinjang were also very independent up until a punitive campaign a decade back grinded their resistance to dust.
Religion: Chinse folk religions, Buddhism, Sunni Islam, Taoism, Catholic Christianity.
Ethnicity: Han Chinese
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Chinese, Mongolian, & Manchu
Other Cultures: Tibetan, Turkish, Koreans & Japanese

Military Info
Army:
Imperial Guards: 5000; elite battalion of troops answerable only to the Emperor. Stationed in Beijing though is also highly mobile can be moved to any part of the country via rail.

Beiyang Army: 3.2 million; westernized army though poorly armed and inferior to those fielded by the Western powers and Japan. Split into twelve major army groups each commanded by a marshal. Answers only to the president and their commanding officers.

Provincial forces and regional militia: ~5 million; poorly armed and trained, mainly used for garrisons and rebel suppression. Armed and supplied by individual governors and viceroys, the central government have little sway over these troops.

Navy: Beiyang Navy (defunct); Prior to 1900, the Beiyang navy was considered the largest and most powerful in Asia. During the First Sino-Japanese war however the navy got completely thrashed and those ships not scuttled were surrender to Japan as war prizes. There are talk of rebuilding the navy, but the military command instead choose to spend their resources on the much more active army.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Though not as advanced or as industrialized as Japan, China still possess the largest economy in Asia and is considered very wealthy overall. The peasantry however see none of this wealth as most of them are dirt poor and have a bad habit of starving to death in leaner years. Majority of the manufacturing capacity reside in the iron rich Manchurian provinces and the Yangtze delta.

Goals: Remove sushi, retake treaty ports and Formosa. Liberate and re-exert suzerainty over Korea.

History: After the disastrous Sino-Japanese war, the Dowager Empress Cixi was forced from power and her western educated nephew, the Guangxu Emperor regained control over the thrown. Seeking to westernize China along Japanese lines, the Emperor began reforming the political structure as well as the military. This did not go well with the conservatives in Court and an assassination attempt was made just three month after reforms began. The Emperor managed to survive the attack but was gravely wounded in the process. A year later, a second attempt was made to remove the Emperor, this time via a military coup. The coup leaders managed to gain control Forbidden Palace where the Emperor was recovering but failed to gain control of key Ministries. The coup failed and a purge was implemented to weed out conservative elements within the army.

In 1908, nearly a decade after the reforms began, the Guangxu Emperor finally succumbed to his wounds suffered all those years earlier. By then the westernization of China was well underway and the country had recently switched to constitutional monarchy. The conservative faction in Court, greatly angered by this development, sized the chance presented by the Emperor’s death to roll back reforms. The reformists, led by Marshal Zhang Xun and sympathetic nobles officers stormed Forbidden Palace in an attempt to prevent the reactionary Prince Duan from being crowned emperor by the conservatives.

The coup was successful and the revolutionaries instead pressured the reigning regent to elevate the then 2 year old Prince Puyi as the Xuantong Emperor. Due to the disruptions brought on by the political instability, the legislature was put on indefinite recess and a military backed Council of Viceroys was established to aid the Regent in his rule.

RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=353886&start=50

Seems fine by me (I have Hangzhou, Yantai and the SMZ).

Getting rid of Yuan Shikai will be very hard as he was popular with the Beiyang Army.

[Caltarania]

What's the point of having a ww1 rp if there isn't any war? Half the nations in the rp including all of the Americas are neutral at this point. The UK led bloc is the largest so would that mean that there would be a Eurasian alliance with France and Germany on the other side?

Ikr, these people are fucking COWARDS.

[Elepis]

Finished app

Generic Info
Nation Name: Empire of Japan
Symbols: Flag
Seal
Military Flag
Homeland Population: 77 million
Imperial Population: 15 million in Korea, 6 million in Taiwan and bits of China
Location/Claims: Japan (including southern Sakhalin), Korea, Taiwan, Hangzhou City, Yantai City, Port Arthur, also this thingy
Capital City: Tokyo

Government Info
Government Type:Constitutional monarchy with bicarmal parliament, Emperor as Head of State but heavy influence over government
Brief Explanation of Government: Ermm, can I answer with an infograph?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Politics_Under_Meiji_Constitution_02.svg/1100px-Politics_Under_Meiji_Constitution_02.svg.png
Ideology: Imperialism, Monarchism, Shintoism, Chauvinism, Jingosim
Leader/s: Emperor Taishō, Prime Minister Katsura Tarō

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Mostly ethnic Japanese, in the islands of Hokkaido has a native Ainu population while Sakhalin as a small Russian population. Korea has a Korean population (duh) and its other colonies are mostly Chinese dominated.
Religion: Shintoism and Buddhism
Ethnicity: Japanese
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Japanese
Other Cultures: Korean, Chinese, Ainu, various Europeans, Brazilians, Russian

Military Info
Army:
Imperial Japanese Army: 1,500,000 (800,000 currently active, the rest are reserves). Well equipped, well trained, well led and well motivated. Almost without a doubt the most effective native land army in Asia. It is a veteran three important international conflicts, the Sino-Japanese War, the Boxer Rebellion and Russo-Japanese War. In all three of these conflicts (apart from the Boxers when it was part of a coalition) the IJA/IJN took on and defeated much larger countries, China and Russia respectively.
Navy:
Imperial Japanese Navy: Like the Army, it is modeled on European forces and is the largest and most effective native force in Asia, winning stunning victories in both the Sino-Japanese war and the Russo-Japanese War, most notably at Tsushima:
-Dreadnoughts: 6
-Pre-dreadnought battleships: 18
-Armoured cruisers: 12
-Protected cruisers: 24
-Light/scout cruisers: 3
-Destroyers: 50
-Submarines: 27
-30 Torpedo boats

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Japan emerged from the Tokugawa-Meiji transition as the first Asian industrialized nation. From the onset, the Meiji rulers embraced the concept of a market economy and adopted British and North American forms of free enterprise capitalism. Rapid growth and structural change characterized Japan's two periods of economic development after 1868. Initially, the economy grew only moderately and relied heavily on traditional Japanese agriculture to finance modern industrial infrastructure. By the time the Russo-Japanese War began in 1904, 65% of employment and 38% of the gross domestic product (GDP) were still based on agriculture, but modern industry had begun to expand substantially.

From 1894, Japan built an extensive empire that included Taiwan, Korea, and parts of northern China. The Japanese regarded this sphere of influence as a political and economic necessity, which prevented foreign states from strangling Japan by blocking its access to raw materials and crucial sea-lanes. Japan's large military force was regarded as essential to the empire's defense and prosperity by obtaining natural resources that the Japanese islands lacked.
Goals:
Halt Chinese "modernization"
Build good relations with Britain and America, get stable relations with Russia
Acquire Resources
Keep China fractured and weak
Acquire Manchuria
Become arbiter of the East Pacific
History:
really the same as RL Japan, however, after the Sino-Japanese War, Japan demands slightly larger reparations from China. These amounted to control over the cities of Hangzou near Shanghai and city of Yantai and Port Arthur. After the Russo-Japanese War, Japan was given control over the South Manchuria Railway Zone, formally run by Russia.
RP Sample: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... shahanshah
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

[The Jonathanian States]

We should have the blocs established before the RP begin so we dont lose time establishing diplomatic ties. I would like to see war break out on the first page of the IC if possible. This RP is filled with experienced players, i really hope it dont die like the rest, three pages into the IC with everyone hesitant to start the party

Established blocs:

Anglophone Collective: UK, Columbia, Brazil, Japan

Central Alliance: Germany, China, Hungary (?), the Ottomans (?)

Double Entente: France, Russia, Italy (?)

Considering Alsace-Lorraine is a thing war can break out immediately. And Germany is definitely more allied to Hungary and the Ottomans than China, considering I've been in talks with both of those but have yet to receive any offer or something from china.

Also, the double Entente is derived from it being the two Ententes of France.
Italy hiding behind the wall means it's 'just' the Entente.

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What's the point of having a ww1 rp if there isn't any war? Half the nations in the rp including all of the Americas are neutral at this point. The UK led bloc is the largest so would that mean that there would be a Eurasian alliance with France and Germany on the other side?

You know that the US only entered in 1917, and the rest of the Americas later, right? That the Ottomans also joined with a delay, and so did Italy?
That in the beginning it only was France-Britain-Russia against Germany-AustriaHungary...

[Liecthenbourg]

Also literally the IC starts while the war is ongoing, soooo.

I think it's funny how the two nations that were originally neutral at the start of the war historically being neutral in our timeline is so horrible. Britain only joined Bc Belgium was invaded, America joined Bc the Germans shot at boats and fucked around in Mexico. None of these are happening or will be happening so.

How can we have a war when we don't even know what the primary combatants are? Besides France and Germany, all other players are pansying out and claiming neutrality including the historical particapents( looking at you Italy). I can't even attack Japan since he's hiding behind a diplomatic shield wall. What the heck are the people in South America gonna do if they're all on one side? Who don't want to be neutral and jump in the bandwagon once the wars already been decided, but what's the fun in that? We need two clear cut camps or else this rp will never take off

I'm playing as Brazil, and I have no intention of buddying up with anyone in SA that tries to claw at my pedestal.
(Looking at you, Argie)

[Elepis]

How can we have a war when we don't even know what the primary combatants are? Besides France and Germany, all other players are pansying out and claiming neutrality including the historical particapents( looking at you Italy). I can't even attack Japan since he's hiding behind a diplomatic shield wall. What the heck are the people in South America gonna do if they're all on one side? Who don't want to be neutral and jump in the bandwagon once the wars already been decided, but what's the fun in that? We need two clear cut camps or else this rp will never take off

I'm playing as Brazil, and I have no intention of buddying up with anyone in SA that tries to claw at my pedestal.
(Looking at you, Argie)

Chile could go with the Entente and Argie with the Alliance or something like that.

God knows what China will do

[Lunas Legion]

I didn't even ask for a bloc, but I seem to have acquired one anyway.

If war breaks out Kitchener will probs see who's colonies are undefended and steal them while having the RN blockade them.

[Elepis]

I didn't even ask for a bloc, but I seem to have acquired one anyway.

If war breaks out Kitchener will probs see who's colonies are undefended and steal them while having the RN blockade them.

Columbia follows you, I follow Columbia, Brazil follows us both, hay presto you have a block

happy block day

[The Jonathanian States]

I didn't even ask for a bloc, but I seem to have acquired one anyway.

If war breaks out Kitchener will probs see who's colonies are undefended and steal them while having the RN blockade them.

With the second them do you mean the colonies or their owners?

Also, didn't you say something about staying neutral? I don't quite like this change in stance...

[Liecthenbourg]

I didn't even ask for a bloc, but I seem to have acquired one anyway.

If war breaks out Kitchener will probs see who's colonies are undefended and steal them while having the RN blockade them.

Columbia follows you, I follow Columbia, Brazil follows us both, hay presto you have a block

happy block day

Its a happy relationship day.
For example, Columbia is the daughter of Britain and Brazil is the confused son of Britain's best friend, Portugal.

[Elepis]

Columbia follows you, I follow Columbia, Brazil follows us both, hay presto you have a block

happy block day

Its a happy relationship day.
For example, Columbia is the daughter of Britain and Brazil is the confused son of Britain's best friend, Portugal.

what's Japan? the estranged cousin?

[Elepis]

Lovely, I am certainly willing to supply you with arms, etc. if needed for your Chinese ambitions.

So, this deal, what exactly is it (we seem to have agreed we want to help each other but we are not sure how) and is it already active in the IC

PS: I my appa okaya?

[Lunas Legion]

I didn't even ask for a bloc, but I seem to have acquired one anyway.

If war breaks out Kitchener will probs see who's colonies are undefended and steal them while having the RN blockade them.

With the second them do you mean the colonies or their owners?

Also, didn't you say something about staying neutral? I don't quite like this change in stance...

Well, it entirely depends on the situation. If Kitchener thinks the war in Europe is one for either side, he'll go in and steal the losing side's colonies. If there's no end in site, he'll pull a Sweden and sell arms and munitions to both sides.

He will probably attempt to enforce a North Sea and English Channel Exclusion Zone too.

[Liecthenbourg]

-snip-

Accepted.

-snip

Population for Korea is too high, should be roughly 15 million.
Your China population hits around 6 million, I believe.

Having Europeans as accepted Cultures is a bit iffy, I personally believe they wouldn't be accepted nor persecuted either.

-snip-

Accepted.

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Jon and I both believe that:

The progressiveness of the nation is too much for this era. (The Anti-Racism Laws, specifically)
War with Spain seems rather ASB, alongside the fact that the Moroccan Princes welcomed Dutch Reform.
The fact that you're working on tanks doesn't make sense, airplanes I can understand but I don't think the tank has a practical use in a frame of mind where everyone is convinced that Napoleonic Tactics are the best.

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Aside from the fact you need to fill in 'religion' and 'brief description of your people' this is good.
Oh, and Imperial Population as well.

This was a collaboration between Jon and I.

[Elepis]

Accepted.

-snip

Population for Korea is too high, should be roughly 15 million.
Your China population hits around 6 million, I believe.

Having Europeans as accepted Cultures is a bit iffy, I personally believe they wouldn't be accepted nor persecuted either.

Didn't know about China and Korea, will change, the European thing (which was not entirely serious) has been moved to "Other Cultures"

PS: Netherlands was reserved prior to Alouite

EDIT: voila

Generic Info
Nation Name: Empire of Japan
Symbols: Flag
Seal
Military Flag
Homeland Population: 77 million
Imperial Population: 15 million in Korea, 6 million in Taiwan and bits of China
Location/Claims: Japan (including southern Sakhalin), Korea, Taiwan, Hangzhou City, Yantai City, Port Arthur, also this thingy
Capital City: Tokyo

Government Info
Government Type:Constitutional monarchy with bicarmal parliament, Emperor as Head of State but heavy influence over government
Brief Explanation of Government: Ermm, can I answer with an infograph?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Politics_Under_Meiji_Constitution_02.svg/1100px-Politics_Under_Meiji_Constitution_02.svg.png
Ideology: Imperialism, Monarchism, Shintoism, Chauvinism, Jingosim
Leader/s: Emperor Taishō, Prime Minister Katsura Tarō

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Mostly ethnic Japanese, in the islands of Hokkaido has a native Ainu population while Sakhalin as a small Russian population. Korea has a Korean population (duh) and its other colonies are mostly Chinese dominated.
Religion: Shintoism and Buddhism
Ethnicity: Japanese
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Japanese
Other Cultures: Korean, Chinese, Ainu, various Europeans, Brazilians, Russian

Military Info
Army:
Imperial Japanese Army: 1,500,000 (800,000 currently active, the rest are reserves). Well equipped, well trained, well led and well motivated. Almost without a doubt the most effective native land army in Asia. It is a veteran three important international conflicts, the Sino-Japanese War, the Boxer Rebellion and Russo-Japanese War. In all three of these conflicts (apart from the Boxers when it was part of a coalition) the IJA/IJN took on and defeated much larger countries, China and Russia respectively.
Navy:
Imperial Japanese Navy: Like the Army, it is modeled on European forces and is the largest and most effective native force in Asia, winning stunning victories in both the Sino-Japanese war and the Russo-Japanese War, most notably at Tsushima:
-Dreadnoughts: 6
-Pre-dreadnought battleships: 18
-Armoured cruisers: 12
-Protected cruisers: 24
-Light/scout cruisers: 3
-Destroyers: 50
-Submarines: 27
-30 Torpedo boats

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Japan emerged from the Tokugawa-Meiji transition as the first Asian industrialized nation. From the onset, the Meiji rulers embraced the concept of a market economy and adopted British and North American forms of free enterprise capitalism. Rapid growth and structural change characterized Japan's two periods of economic development after 1868. Initially, the economy grew only moderately and relied heavily on traditional Japanese agriculture to finance modern industrial infrastructure. By the time the Russo-Japanese War began in 1904, 65% of employment and 38% of the gross domestic product (GDP) were still based on agriculture, but modern industry had begun to expand substantially.

From 1894, Japan built an extensive empire that included Taiwan, Korea, and parts of northern China. The Japanese regarded this sphere of influence as a political and economic necessity, which prevented foreign states from strangling Japan by blocking its access to raw materials and crucial sea-lanes. Japan's large military force was regarded as essential to the empire's defense and prosperity by obtaining natural resources that the Japanese islands lacked.
Goals:
Halt Chinese "modernization"
Build good relations with Britain and America, get stable relations with Russia
Acquire Resources
Keep China fractured and weak
Acquire Manchuria
Become arbiter of the East Pacific
History:
really the same as RL Japan, however, after the Sino-Japanese War, Japan demands slightly larger reparations from China. These amounted to control over the cities of Hangzou near Shanghai and city of Yantai and Port Arthur. After the Russo-Japanese War, Japan was given control over the South Manchuria Railway Zone, formally run by Russia.
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=353341&hilit=shahanshah
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

[Elepis]

If I invaded China (obviously not all China, that would be suicide), I need a casus belli. I could just invaded and hopefully my friendship with UK and Columbia could protect me from the worst of the international backlash but I would prefer some sought of CB, can anyone think of one.

Race riots by Chinese citizens in Hongzhou would be good but would I need the China's player's cooperation in that?

[The Jonathanian States]

If I invaded China (obviously not all China, that would be suicide), I need a casus belli. I could just invaded and hopefully my friendship with UK and Columbia could protect me from the worst of the international backlash but I would prefer some sought of CB, can anyone think of one.

Race riots by Chinese citizens in Hongzhou would be good but would I need the China's player's cooperation in that?

Mukden incident, here you go.

[Elepis]

If I invaded China (obviously not all China, that would be suicide), I need a casus belli. I could just invaded and hopefully my friendship with UK and Columbia could protect me from the worst of the international backlash but I would prefer some sought of CB, can anyone think of one.

Race riots by Chinese citizens in Hongzhou would be good but would I need the China's player's cooperation in that?

Mukden incident, here you go.

I read about that, the west found out that it was a Japanese soldier who put a party popper on the tracks and turned on Japan. I would like to avoid being turned on

[Alouite]

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Jon and I (Liec.) both believe that:

The progressiveness of the nation is too much for this era. (The Anti-Racism Laws, specifically)
War with Spain seems rather ASB, alongside the fact that the Moroccan Princes welcomed Dutch Reform.
The fact that you're working on tanks doesn't make sense, airplanes I can understand but I don't think the tank has a practical use in a frame of mind where everyone is convinced that Napoleonic Tactics are the best.

1)Fair enough, I'll leave that law out of the listed ones.
2)A single formidably honorable Moroccan Prince and some of his adherents, not all the Princes.
3)Fair enough, especially because we are a Napoleonic State with high prestige. Why invest in tin cannons on wheels? I can accept that.

I'll edit areas 1 & 23 now, and hopefully we can agree on point two, the war was centered on the idea that the Dutch Navy was capable of overpowering the Spanish Navy which was still in the stages of recovery at the time, and thus capable of eliminating Spanish Naval supremacy in the war while allowing the Dutch to transport forces to the Canaries. Indeed, those Islands were the only Spanish Territory we took in that war, otherwise it was a war of prestige. The war In Morocco happens later in the App, and coincides with a powermongering royal prince (only one not all the princes) who is just a few lives away from being heir hoping for a means to rise up. The Dutch assist him in a coup with money, weapons and military support in exchange for a protectorate contract. Knowing that Domestic Rule power is better than no power at all, the prince accepts the contract. The war is won and a protectorate is set up where Moroccans are in a permanent alliance and trade agreement with the dutch which they prosper for in the form of a technological revolution.

[Elepis]

Jon and I (Liec.) both believe that:

The progressiveness of the nation is too much for this era. (The Anti-Racism Laws, specifically)
War with Spain seems rather ASB, alongside the fact that the Moroccan Princes welcomed Dutch Reform.
The fact that you're working on tanks doesn't make sense, airplanes I can understand but I don't think the tank has a practical use in a frame of mind where everyone is convinced that Napoleonic Tactics are the best.

1)Fair enough, I'll leave that law out of the listed ones.
2)A single formidably honorable Moroccan Prince and some of his adherents, not all the Princes.
3)Fair enough, especially because we are a Napoleonic State with high prestige. Why invest in tin cannons on wheels? I can accept that.

I'll edit areas 1 & 23 now, and hopefully we can agree on point two, the war was centered on the idea that the Dutch Navy was capable of overpowering the Spanish Navy which was still in the stages of recovery at the time, and thus capable of eliminating Spanish Naval supremacy in the war while allowing the Dutch to transport forces to the Canaries. Indeed, those Islands were the only Spanish Territory we took in that war, otherwise it was a war of prestige. The war In Morocco happens later in the App, and coincides with a powermongering royal prince (only one not all the princes) who is just a few lives away from being heir hoping for a means to rise up. The Dutch assist him in a coup with money, weapons and military support in exchange for a protectorate contract. Knowing that Domestic Rule power is better than no power at all, the prince accepts the contract. The war is won and a protectorate is set up where Moroccans are in a permanent alliance and trade agreement with the dutch which they prosper for in the form of a technological revolution.

Netherlands was reserved before your app

[Alouite]

1)Fair enough, I'll leave that law out of the listed ones.
2)A single formidably honorable Moroccan Prince and some of his adherents, not all the Princes.
3)Fair enough, especially because we are a Napoleonic State with high prestige. Why invest in tin cannons on wheels? I can accept that.

I'll edit areas 1 & 23 now, and hopefully we can agree on point two, the war was centered on the idea that the Dutch Navy was capable of overpowering the Spanish Navy which was still in the stages of recovery at the time, and thus capable of eliminating Spanish Naval supremacy in the war while allowing the Dutch to transport forces to the Canaries. Indeed, those Islands were the only Spanish Territory we took in that war, otherwise it was a war of prestige. The war In Morocco happens later in the App, and coincides with a powermongering royal prince (only one not all the princes) who is just a few lives away from being heir hoping for a means to rise up. The Dutch assist him in a coup with money, weapons and military support in exchange for a protectorate contract. Knowing that Domestic Rule power is better than no power at all, the prince accepts the contract. The war is won and a protectorate is set up where Moroccans are in a permanent alliance and trade agreement with the dutch which they prosper for in the form of a technological revolution.

Netherlands was reserved before your app

I didn't see that in the OP. But if that means my app was for nothing I guess this is another good RP I won't get to be a part of because of a reservation. Too bad. Can you guys tg me next time you make one of these, I always find it too late to join.

[Elepis]

Netherlands was reserved before your app

I didn't see that in the OP. But if that means my app was for nothing I guess this is another good RP I won't get to be a part of because of a reservation. Too bad. Can you guys tg me next time you make one of these, I always find it too late to join.

You can still be Spain, Austria, various Balkan nations, Gran Columbia etc

[Elepis]

should there be a limit on reservation times? eg two days with a 12 hour extension?

[Alouite]

I didn't see that in the OP. But if that means my app was for nothing I guess this is another good RP I won't get to be a part of because of a reservation. Too bad. Can you guys tg me next time you make one of these, I always find it too late to join.

You can still be Spain, Austria, various Balkan nations, Gran Columbia etc

I don't think you understand how I RP. You see, when I make apps I go full out and commit to studying the nation I select and it's possibilities along with creating a list of names for characters I will introduce and writing an adaptable plot for the first few posts. Generally I'm willing to make edits to the app if I go too far in the direction I wanted to go in, and typically I check to see if the nation is taken or reserved in the OP, if I don't see it there and someone tells me my app is worthless because someone reserved it, I give up. So maybe in a sequel tg me, but I put three hours into that app and am willing to make edits and am not willing to half ass or commit to another app again. But thanks for offering alternatives, I just don't app the way most RPers do, switching after an app makes me covet the nation I originally intended to be anyway and then I do a shit job as the second choice nation, it's rare I'm able to be enthusiastic enough to commit twice and like it, but in this case I don't think I can. Maybe I'll re-app for this RP, but not likely soon unless I have a huge change of heart.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Omg everyone is a coward!!!!!111!

*ignores the fact that WWI originally didn't contain half of its participants when war broke out*