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The Jonathanian States
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:52 pm

Caltarania wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:I actually was curious what exactly your history is.


Essentially, the War of the Sixth Coalition ends pretty much as normal, but the Six Days' Campaign (ITTL probably more of a Three Week Campaign or something) is more successful, dragging the war on a tad bit longer. During this time, French administrators and bureaucrats in Paris establish an executive-based republic, declares itself as the French successor state and sells out Napoleon in order to gain peace. With Napoleon still on campaign, they sign a treaty with the coalition that essentially reduces France to it's modern European borders minus Wallonia. The Bourbons are pretty damned salty, but the new French government essentially says they can live in France as citizens, and some of them begrudgingly accept. Then, some time after the war, the Belgian revolution occurs. French troops march in to "restore order", though in actuality use the event in order to reclaim Wallonia, establishing de facto control, and then likely forcing the Dutch to sign a treaty which gives them de jure control over the region.

You are the OP, so I'll ask you:
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Sveltlana wrote:Shit, I really wanted to be Mexico.

Er, it's not reserved on the OP?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:59 pm

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Location: Portugal, East Timor, Macau, Mozambique, Sao Tome and Principe, Cape Verde, Goa, Guinea-Bissau(All historical territories)
Nation Name: Portuguese Republic
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Postby Sveltlana » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:12 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:Shit, I really wanted to be Mexico.


Be... Uh... I dunno... Spain? Best friend Portugal?


Mexico in revolution is fun as fuck to do.

And any American annexation of Mexican land that goes below the Rio Bravo and fails to annex mexico completely looks like a repugnant tumour.
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Postby Sveltlana » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:16 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Essentially, the War of the Sixth Coalition ends pretty much as normal, but the Six Days' Campaign (ITTL probably more of a Three Week Campaign or something) is more successful, dragging the war on a tad bit longer. During this time, French administrators and bureaucrats in Paris establish an executive-based republic, declares itself as the French successor state and sells out Napoleon in order to gain peace. With Napoleon still on campaign, they sign a treaty with the coalition that essentially reduces France to it's modern European borders minus Wallonia. The Bourbons are pretty damned salty, but the new French government essentially says they can live in France as citizens, and some of them begrudgingly accept. Then, some time after the war, the Belgian revolution occurs. French troops march in to "restore order", though in actuality use the event in order to reclaim Wallonia, establishing de facto control, and then likely forcing the Dutch to sign a treaty which gives them de jure control over the region.

You are the OP, so I'll ask you:
Do you want my honest opinion on this?
Sveltlana wrote:Shit, I really wanted to be Mexico.

Er, it's not reserved on the OP?

Glyt said in a roundabout way that he may annex some Mexican land.

I wouldn't have any trouble if he wants to temporarily occupy Veracruz and hunt for Pancho Villa in the north, but I can't stand the cancerous idea of the US taking Mexican land.
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Now, mortal, you have made the mistake of opening Pandora's Box. What evils have you unleashed upon the Earth?

Me, Svet lol good one svet
Me, Svet
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-- Politics --
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:18 pm

Sveltlana wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:You are the OP, so I'll ask you:
Do you want my honest opinion on this?

Er, it's not reserved on the OP?

Glyt said in a roundabout way that he may annex some Mexican land.

I wouldn't have any trouble if he wants to temporarily occupy Veracruz and hunt for Pancho Villa in the north, but I can't stand the cancerous idea of the US taking Mexican land.

He said he'll do annexations if he has to fight the Mexican government as well, that is that they are uncooperative in his fight against the bandidos - if that makes any difference to you.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:22 pm

WIP
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Nation Name: Portuguese Republic
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Portuguesa

Homeland Population: six million
Imperial Population: 12 million
Location/Claims:
Homeland: Portugal
Colonies: Portugal, East Timor, Macau, Mozambique, Sao Tome and Principe, Cape Verde, Goa, Guinea-Bissau(all historical)

Capital City: Lisbon

Government Info
Government Type: Parliamentary Republic
Brief Explanation of Government:
Portugal operates under the Westminister system imported from the United Kingdom. However, Portugal has both a President, and a Prime Minister that operate together.


Ideology: Conservative Liberalism
Leader/s: (Head of State, Head of Government, etc.)

Population Info
Brief Description of your people:
Religion: Catholicism, followed by African folk religion, followed by Protestantism. However, t
Ethnicity:Portuguese
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Portuguese
Other Cultures: Ovimbundu, Kimbundu, Bakongo, Maviha, Kunda, Makonde, and many more other African ethnic groups

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Postby Sveltlana » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:27 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:Glyt said in a roundabout way that he may annex some Mexican land.

I wouldn't have any trouble if he wants to temporarily occupy Veracruz and hunt for Pancho Villa in the north, but I can't stand the cancerous idea of the US taking Mexican land.

He said he'll do annexations if he has to fight the Mexican government as well, that is that they are uncooperative in his fight against the bandidos - if that makes any difference to you.


The definition of the Mexican government between 1910 and the start of the perfect dictatorship is that there was no Mexican government lol.
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Now, mortal, you have made the mistake of opening Pandora's Box. What evils have you unleashed upon the Earth?

Me, Svet lol good one svet
Me, Svet
: ikr svet it was pretty good

-- Politics --
Fuck that.

Senka: [about me] "You are a deplorable reactionary fascist cockroach with no hope of redemption who should be condemned to burn with the rest of the plutocratic imperialist stooges in the cleansing atomic fire of the righteous."



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Postby The Jonathanian States » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:29 pm

Sveltlana wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:He said he'll do annexations if he has to fight the Mexican government as well, that is that they are uncooperative in his fight against the bandidos - if that makes any difference to you.


The definition of the Mexican government between 1910 and the start of the perfect dictatorship is that there was no Mexican government lol.

Err, you'll have to discuss that with him them.
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Nation Name: The United Batavian Republic
Symbols: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... public.svg
Homeland Population: 6,235,000
Imperial Population: 26,515,000
Location/Claims: In Orange: http://i.imgur.com/tNJdjTx.png
Capital City: Amsterdam

Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Meritocratic Revolutionary Republic
Brief Explanation of Government: There are provincial colonial governments that recognize local customs and promote Dutch as a financial language along with secularism as a stance on state religion.
Ideology: Classical liberalism, Individualism, Progressivism, Romantic nationalism, Expansionist nationalism, Civic nationalism, Anti-Xenophobic, Jingoism, Militarism
Leader/s: Premier Consul Wilhelm Johann Simonis

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Tolerant, Diverse and Jingoistic, the Batavian Republican people are prided in Progressive, Romantic, Militarist, Imperialist, Individualist and Civic Nationalist politics. Because of this they are good at assimilating foreign peoples as local customs are promoted.
Religion: Secularism recognizing all Branches of Christianity, Sunni Islam, Judaism, and Agnosticism.
Ethnicity: Dutch, Flemish, Moroccan,
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Dutch, Flemish, Moroccan, Berber, Indonesian.
Other Cultures: Spanish

Military Info
Armed Forces: 1,275,750 (Less than 5% of Population)
Army: 800,000

Batavian Republican Army: 300,000
-Dutch Army Rangers: 10,000
-National Dragoons: 15,000
-Dutch Artillery Corps: 40,000
-Revolutionary Guard: 500
-Dutch National Air Division: 5,000
-National Armed Forces: 229,500

Moroccan Corps: 300,000
-Moroccan National Army Rangers: 10,000
-Royal Moroccan Cavalry Corps: 15,000
-Moroccan Artillery Corps: 25,000
-Royal Guard: 500
-Black Guard: 5,000
-Moroccan National Guard: 200,000
-Moroccan Coldstream Guard: 44,500

Indonesian Corps: 150,000
-Indonesian Colonial Army Rangers: 10,000
-Indonesian Colonial Cavalry Corps: 10,000
-Indonesian Colonial Artillery Corps: 15,000
-Indonesian National Guard: 100,000
-Indonesian Revolutionary Guard: 1,000
-Indonesian Mercantile Army Corps: 10,000
-Indonesian Local Militias: 3,500
-Indonesian Colonial Guard: 500

Batavian Suriname Corps: 50,000
-Dutch Suriname Army Rangers: 10,000
-Suriname Jungle Cavalry Corps: 5,000
-Colonial Guard: 35,000

Navy: 475,750 (Will specify w/ ships later)
-Dutch North Sea Fleet: 100,000
-Dutch East Atlantic Fleet: 150,000
-Dutch Suriname Fleet: 50,000
-Dutch East Indies Fleet: 75,000
-National Revolutionary Diplomatic Transport Division: 750


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Brief Description of your Economy: Seeing a growth in wealth due to colonial imports and Industrialization at home and abroad, the Dutch Economy is strengthening and the middle class is expanding and there are reasonable business regulations in place.
Goals: Maintain the Dutch Domain and further Dutch trade and military interests worldwide.
History: Formed on January 19th, 1795 by Revolutionary France, the Batavian Republic was initially short lived until the re-establishment of monarchy under the House of Napoleon. However, when the Napoleonic forces were defeated in the battle of Waterloo, the Dutch House of Orange family regained power for five years. However. On January 19th, 1820, the 25th Anniversary of the Batavian Republic, and due to a failure to repair the nation, the Second Batavian Republic was established immediately demanding universal suffrage for all male voters regardless of race, religion, stature, or wealth. The Batavian Republic began to move towards secularism and individualism. On September 22nd of the year 1833 the Secular Restoration Act was signed re-instating the Napoleonic Freedom of Religion stance, and giving tax breaks to any religious foundation that fit non-threatening categories. In the year 1834, the Spanish declared war on the Netherlands claiming a right to the lands with the restoration of the Bourbon Dynasty and to destroy the last bastion of Revolutionary Republicanism in Europe. However, with a weakened Navy still in recovery from the Battle of Trafalgar, the Spanish were no match for the Dutch Fleet which had been rapidly shipbuilding since the end of the Napoleonic Wars. With a strong fleet and a blind eye from the Protestant United Kingdom which had begun good trade relations with the Batavians, the Dutch landed in the Canaries and fought for eight months before securing the Islands. Demanding this as a concession from the Spanish in exchange for the end of a blockade on their colonial ports. The Spaniards conceeded and the Dutch were awarded the Isles. After the war, in 1838, former Army General Johann Tunison formed the Dutch Army Rangers, an elite and highly maneuverable unit that is able to fight in global terrains. With the rise of Batavian nationalism after beating a former world power, the Dutch declared war on the Sultanate of Morocco after a trade dispute in 1842. The Invasion of Tangiers soon saw an increase in traction. Local liberties were low, and Dutch introduction of economic opportunities and progressive culture coincided with a pretender movement in Morocco, so much so that one of the Moroccan princes supported the some of the Dutch reforms. He raised an Army of revolutionaries to liberate Morocco and the Dutch immediately pledged support in exchange for a protector contract which the Prince eventually accepted. The Moroccan revolutionaries and Dutch Forces met in Fez and soon launched a force to take Marrakesh of 9,000 Dutch Army Rangers, 12,000 Dutch Regulars and 13,000 Moroccan revolutionaries. The Moroccan loyalists were unable to resist the modernized forces despite 45,000 forces defending the capital. With the capital siezed the Moroccan pretender was made the Monarch in exchange for him accepting a protectorate agreement which required them to be in a permanent alliance and trade agreement with the dutch and have a constitutional monarchy in exchange for technology, foreign goods at low prices, protection by the now legendary Dutch Navy, and a promise of expansion southward in ten years or less. This promise was not heard on deaf ears seven years later in 1845, the Dutch Military assembled a 38,000 man expeditionary force to assist a 50,000 man Moroccan force in seizing the gold rich Western Sahara. However, the Western Saharan Territory was also rich in phosphorous, a known explosive, and used it to transform the Atlas Mountains into a railed region that in the next few decades created the Moroccan National Railroad. The Dutch also began building railways along with canals and a Monument to the soldiers who fought in the Batavian-Spanish war called the "Revolutionary Liberty Monument" which was built in Amsterdam with a smaller copy on a small town near the beach in the Canaries where the men landed to takeover. The War with Spain became romanticized and was called the "War of Batavian Prestige" and was considered a justification for why the Republic was superior to Monarchies such as Spain from then on in politics. As the Bavatian republic fought four wars with the remaining Barbary states, it managed to severely weaken Barbary powers, which certainly contributed to French colonization of North Africa. In 1862, the Dutch pledged support to Columbia in it's Civil War and began establishing relations with the United States. Since then the Netherlands has seen an increase in support for its secular politics, stabilization among it's territories and the standardization of currencies under the New Guilder, and under the Metric System in scientific and economic regards. The Batavian Army now has begun tank research since 1909, Air Flight Research since 1907 though it has largely evolved, and has been modernizing all of it's forces to use standard weapons with specialization exceptions. They contracted the Browning co. and made the FN M1900 standard issue, Léon Nagant invented the Nagant M1895 in the Netherlands as well and it was made standard issue for all Army Rangers. All ceremonial units use the Lebel Model 1886 rifle, however, to keep with the times, the Winchester Model 1907 was made the Dutch National Standard Issue Army rifle. The Navy used the Ross rifle along with Moroccan, Indonesian and Suriname forces. The construction of the Atlas Tank is underway and telegraph stations have been set up throughout the nation to provide communication between military posts. Most recently, the Batavian Union Party has been elected into office to set regulatory policy with former admiral, military governor of Suriname, Mayor of Amsterdam, and Consul in the National Assembly, Wilhelm J. Simonis (Referred to in English as William Simonson) and in his first year he passed the Anti-Trust & Workplace Regulation act setting a minimum wage, higher taxes on the rich, the official recognition of labor unions, and workplace standards in reaction to those said to exist in Columbia in the Jungle by Upton Sinclair also being found present in the Batavian Republic, finally, religion based discrimination in the workplace were banned to ensure fair competition for jobs, this act, signed in 1912 became the staple of Wilhelm's policy, and in two years when he runs for re-election, he is currently set to have a high voter turnout.
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:45 pm

Its fine that so many of you picked neutral but there needs to be active participants. If the flash point is Alsace-Lorraine then Germany and France must fight. Have we decided what the trigger will be or are we going to spend two pages in the IC trying to build it up and watch the RP fizzle out like the rest?

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:23 pm

Italy literally is not strong enough to pick sides,
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:30 pm

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The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
1.) Good question, I'll think of a way

2,3,Crete,Cyprus.) Same way we got Corfu in real life, International inaction and an Invasion of Greece, Cyprus or Crete I forget at this point whether or not they were Ottoman, if so see the Libya point.

Slovenia.) War against Austria, seizing of the Carinola

Montenegro.) Siezing after the war with Greece of Historic Cattaro

5.) Increased spread of the Risorgimento and the Italo-Turkish war like IRL, same with Rhodes.

1.) Technically Lunas reserved all current 1914 Borders before you posted your app so I'm just curious....

2 and 3) Well war with Greece would bring in other powers I'm sure, and I'm not sure how you could win.

4.) Slovenia and Montenegro are "fine" In my opinion

5.) War with Turkey would end you as they are more Modern, and might bring in me and Germany.


1.) Like I said in my App, he can have all his claims,

2>) Are you sure about that? It didn't happen with Corfu, and I doubt anyone would fight a majour war over Greece.

5.) Then the Sultanate of Tripolitania
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:37 pm

We should have the blocs established before the RP begin so we dont lose time establishing diplomatic ties. I would like to see war break out on the first page of the IC if possible. This RP is filled with experienced players, i really hope it dont die like the rest, three pages into the IC with everyone hesitant to start the party

Established blocs:

Anglophone Collective: UK, Columbia, Brazil, Japan

Central Alliance: Germany, China, Hungary (?), the Ottomans (?)

Double Entente: France, Russia, Italy (?)

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:43 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:We should have the blocs established before the RP begin so we dont lose time establishing diplomatic ties. I would like to see war break out on the first page of the IC if possible. This RP is filled with experienced players, i really hope it dont die like the rest, three pages into the IC with everyone hesitant to start the party

Established blocs:

Anglophone Collective: UK, Columbia, Brazil, Japan

Central Alliance: Germany, China, Hungary (?), the Ottomans (?)

Double Entente: France, Russia,

Fuck this, Hiding behind the Alps: Italy

FIxed
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:47 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Fuck this, Hiding behind the Alps: Italy
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Get in there and fight you coward REEEEEE
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Postby Sveltlana » Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:41 pm

I don't need to say this is WIP. Also, Glytter, don't be an arse pl0x.

Generic Info
Nation Name: United Mexican States (Estados Unidos Mexicanos)
Symbols: Mexican Flag & National Anthem
Homeland Population: 19,300,000
OTL Mexico: 14,900,000
OTL Guatemala: 1,180,000
OTL El Salvador: 1,200,000
OTL Honduras: 560,000
OTL Nicaragua: 580,000
OTL Costa Rica: 410,000
OTL Panama: 380,000
Imperial Population: 19,300,000
Location/Claims: As much of mainland as possible
Capital City: Mexico City — Ciudad de México

Government Info
Government Type: Provisional Presidential Federal Constitutional Republic
Brief Explanation of Government: Government is in total chaos. Every local Joe claims to be a revolutionary leader, leading his own band of men against what he presumes is the government; although more often than not, Joe's enemy is another revolutionary leader. The three chief contenders for the Mexican presidency are Venustiano Carranza, heir of Madero's legacy, an affluent Northerner; Emiliano Zapata, the popular leader of indians and poorer mestizos; and finally, Pancho Villa, famous for his exploits against the thief of Mexico's old provinces, the United States. Pancho Villa sires the support of those Mexicans who are neither with Carranza nor with Zapata. All contenders call for major reforms, so describing the government post-Portifiato is a waste of time.
Ideology: The country is in total Revolution. Everyone has pretty much a different one.
Leader/s: Victoriano Huerta — Just-ousted president
Venustiano Carranza — Current 'President', leader of the upper and middle classes
Emiliano Zapata — Leader of the Lower classes
Pancho Villa — Popular leader of those who wish reform and are neither of the above

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Mexicans. Tacos, sombreros, nopales, et cetera.
Religion: Predominantly catholicism.
Ethnicity: Mexican/Hispanic/Native American
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Mexican, Mestizo
Other Cultures: Native american (e.g. Nahua, Mixtec, Maya, Huastec)

Military Info
Army: Venustiano Carranza's army is mostly composed of irregular soldiers fielding weapons imported from France, Germany, and the United States. Carranza enjoys the implicit support of the United States, who has thus far been willing to sell weaponry to his forces, who have thus maintained a superiority in armament to their poorer Zapatista and Villista counterparts. The Carranzistas currently hold all Mexican states with the Exception of the Lower Pacific states around Oaxaca and Guerrero, and Chihuahua, Sonora, Baja California, and Sinaloa in the North, where Villa concentrates his support. Carranzista armies are about to march north to offer battle to Villa's forces. A second major Carranzista contingent maintains watch over Chilpancingo against all odds, while a third major force secures the periphery of the all-important Mexico City from Zapatista aggression.

Navy: Not worthy of being spoken of, the Mexican navy is a critically underfunded and mothballed institution that has been paid little attention for the irregular warfare of the Revolution.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Mexico is in revolution. Total chaos. Not yet industrialised outside of affluent urban centres.
Goals: BECOME STABLE
History: OTL until Revolution, except that Mexico retained its control over the USCA. I'll go into the history within the revolution soon, as that will have major divergences (FUCK YOU VICTORIANO HUERTA, LONG LIVE MADERO, HIS BROTHER, & PINO SUAREZ!!!)
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Now, mortal, you have made the mistake of opening Pandora's Box. What evils have you unleashed upon the Earth?

Me, Svet lol good one svet
Me, Svet
: ikr svet it was pretty good

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Fuck that.

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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:07 pm

I think that if Chile doesn't remain neutral then it will most likely support the Anglophone Collective. Chile was pretty much in bed with the UK and the US despite it have some animosity with the latter. Though to think that the three major spheres of South America might be on same side is kind of funny.

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Postby Jaslandia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:19 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:We should have the blocs established before the RP begin so we dont lose time establishing diplomatic ties. I would like to see war break out on the first page of the IC if possible. This RP is filled with experienced players, i really hope it dont die like the rest, three pages into the IC with everyone hesitant to start the party

Established blocs:

Anglophone Collective: UK, Columbia, Brazil, Japan

Central Alliance: Germany, China, Hungary (?), the Ottomans (?)

Double Entente: France, Russia, Italy (?)

I'm going to join the Anglophone Collective soon if I haven't already, so you might want to add Argentina to that block.

Baja California y Sonora wrote:I think that if Chile doesn't remain neutral then it will most likely support the Anglophone Collective. Chile was pretty much in bed with the UK and the US despite it have some animosity with the latter. Though to think that the three major spheres of South America might be on same side is kind of funny.

Since all the major powers of South America will be in the same alliance, I guess there won't be too much conflict on that continent. I guess that leaves more IC space for the of the Great Slaughter War. :p
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Pro: Regulated Capitalism, Two-state solution, nice people, Nerdfighteria, democracy, science, public education, rationalism, reason, logic, politeness, LGBT rights, feminism, UN, Democratic Party

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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:22 pm

Jaslandia wrote:
Jade Confederacy wrote:We should have the blocs established before the RP begin so we dont lose time establishing diplomatic ties. I would like to see war break out on the first page of the IC if possible. This RP is filled with experienced players, i really hope it dont die like the rest, three pages into the IC with everyone hesitant to start the party

Established blocs:

Anglophone Collective: UK, Columbia, Brazil, Japan

Central Alliance: Germany, China, Hungary (?), the Ottomans (?)

Double Entente: France, Russia, Italy (?)

I'm going to join the Anglophone Collective soon if I haven't already, so you might want to add Argentina to that block.

Baja California y Sonora wrote:I think that if Chile doesn't remain neutral then it will most likely support the Anglophone Collective. Chile was pretty much in bed with the UK and the US despite it have some animosity with the latter. Though to think that the three major spheres of South America might be on same side is kind of funny.

Since all the major powers of South America will be in the same alliance, I guess there won't be too much conflict on that continent. I guess that leaves more IC space for the of the Great Slaughter War. :p

Well the POD is 1750 allot could have changed you know :b. Even then however, the strongest possibility right now is Chile staying out. Need to finish the app tho.

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Postby Jaslandia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:24 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:
Jaslandia wrote:I'm going to join the Anglophone Collective soon if I haven't already, so you might want to add Argentina to that block.


Since all the major powers of South America will be in the same alliance, I guess there won't be too much conflict on that continent. I guess that leaves more IC space for the of the Great Slaughter War. :p

Well the POD is 1750 allot could have changed you know :b. Even then however, the strongest possibility right now is Chile staying out. Need to finish the app tho.

I also need to finish my app. I should have the final version up sometime tomorrow.
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:45 pm

What's the point of having a ww1 rp if there isn't any war? Half the nations in the rp including all of the Americas are neutral at this point. The UK led bloc is the largest so would that mean that there would be a Eurasian alliance with France and Germany on the other side?

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:03 pm

Svet -

Mexico is going to go similar to it did in history - at least how I treat it.

After I said we would only go to war of the government resisted, I read up on Mexico for the time period and realized it's one massive shit show. I'm sure we will be able to develop a far better story line that involves me not taking any land that I can be satisfied with.

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:29 pm

Also literally the IC starts while the war is ongoing, soooo.

I think it's funny how the two nations that were originally neutral at the start of the war historically being neutral in our timeline is so horrible. Britain only joined Bc Belgium was invaded, America joined Bc the Germans shot at boats and fucked around in Mexico. None of these are happening or will be happening so.

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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:11 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Also literally the IC starts while the war is ongoing, soooo.

I think it's funny how the two nations that were originally neutral at the start of the war historically being neutral in our timeline is so horrible. Britain only joined Bc Belgium was invaded, America joined Bc the Germans shot at boats and fucked around in Mexico. None of these are happening or will be happening so.


How can we have a war when we don't even know what the primary combatants are? Besides France and Germany, all other players are pansying out and claiming neutrality including the historical particapents( looking at you Italy). I can't even attack Japan since he's hiding behind a diplomatic shield wall. What the heck are the people in South America gonna do if they're all on one side? Who don't want to be neutral and jump in the bandwagon once the wars already been decided, but what's the fun in that? We need two clear cut camps or else this rp will never take off

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Postby Elepis » Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:48 am

Jade Confederacy wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Also literally the IC starts while the war is ongoing, soooo.

I think it's funny how the two nations that were originally neutral at the start of the war historically being neutral in our timeline is so horrible. Britain only joined Bc Belgium was invaded, America joined Bc the Germans shot at boats and fucked around in Mexico. None of these are happening or will be happening so.


How can we have a war when we don't even know what the primary combatants are? Besides France and Germany, all other players are pansying out and claiming neutrality including the historical particapents( looking at you Italy). I can't even attack Japan since he's hiding behind a diplomatic shield wall. What the heck are the people in South America gonna do if they're all on one side? Who don't want to be neutral and jump in the bandwagon once the wars already been decided, but what's the fun in that? We need two clear cut camps or else this rp will never take off


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How about this. No question marks, just do

Anglophone Collective: UK, Columbia, Brazil, Japan

Central Alliance: Germany, China, Hungary, the Ottomans, Chile

Double Entente: France, Russia, Italy, Argentina
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