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Postby Arvenia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:59 pm

Cabana wrote:Hold up a second, Gaddafi was a socialist. Why would communists attempt to overthrow him?

I thought he was a green politician (supporter of the green ideology).
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Postby The Danish Confederacy » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:00 pm

Arvenia wrote:
Cabana wrote:Hold up a second, Gaddafi was a socialist. Why would communists attempt to overthrow him?

I thought he was a green politician (supporter of the green ideology).

They are basically renamed socialists.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:00 pm

Arvenia wrote:
Cabana wrote:Hold up a second, Gaddafi was a socialist. Why would communists attempt to overthrow him?

I thought he was a green politician (supporter of the green ideology).

Oh dear. I think you had best stop talking and save yourself further embarrassment.
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Postby Red Party » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:04 pm

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Rebel Group Name: The Democratic Forces of Lebanon
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Area Your Rebel Group Operates In: Lebanon, some small Syrian cities
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Civil Rights (from a scale of 1/10): 7
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Is your group aligned with The West/America/NATO, The East/Soviets/Communist, or nonaligned: NATO
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Brief Description of Your Group's Recent History: After the AFU began to rise Christians and Westerners became prosecuted, they slowly feed to the outskirts of Lebanon and now they wan't their home back.
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:13 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Arvenia wrote:I thought he was a green politician (supporter of the green ideology).

Oh dear. I think you had best stop talking and save yourself further embarrassment.

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Postby The Socialist Siverian State » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:50 pm

Should the Libyan Arab Republic declare war on the UK?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:45 pm

The Socialist Siverian State wrote:Should the Libyan Arab Republic declare war on the UK?

Let us rephrase this question
Do you want to be a colony again?
EDIT The United States will not support the British intervention of South Sudan, since it is not communist or socialist. If it were then the US, would have probably turned a blind eye, but seeing as it is not. I have no choice realistically, but to condemn the UK.
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Postby The Socialist Siverian State » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:53 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
The Socialist Siverian State wrote:Should the Libyan Arab Republic declare war on the UK?

Let us rephrase this question
Do you want to be a colony again?
EDIT The United States will not support the British intervention of South Sudan, since it is not communist or socialist. If it were then the US, would have probably turned a blind eye, but seeing as it is not. I have no choice realistically, but to condemn the UK.

Libya will not be sending any troops to Sudan
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Postby SECP » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:04 pm

This whole capturing and occupying Sudan thing by the UK will kick up some old ashes with Spain....I mean like 10 year old ashes.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:11 pm

I think this thing will the Suez crisis of out timeline, where Britain loses its status as a superpower.

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Postby Gyrenaica » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:15 pm

British Empire Strikes Back wrote:
The Socialist Siverian State wrote:What's happening in Africa?

I was hoping that you could intervene right now. The British have intervened and want to make Sudan a protectorate/colony. Basically here are the factions in this war in Sudan:

Nations and Groups Supporting Arab North Sudan: The Arab Federal Union (AFU)
Nations and Groups Supporting Christian South Sudan: Ethiopia and Spain
Nations and Groups Supporting The British Intervention In Sudan: The United Kingdom and Her Colonies, South Africa and The Congo

This is true. But since my nation is majority Christian (80%) and another 7% is indigenous or un affiliated, leaving very little Muslims, many people support South Sudan. But I can't really intervene due to my backwash, third world class military and stuff.

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Old Tyrannia wrote:I can't see Ethiopia winning a war against the UK and the AFU, to be honest. Not without help at any rate; my military simply isn't up to the task, and only Spain has declared its support for Ethiopia and the South Sudanese rebels. Unless South Africa and the FCDR enter the war on my side my only hope is to gain the sympathy of the Western media and place enough pressure on the US government that it intervenes to restrain Britain.

I only sent 25,000 troops at the mo. Surely you could match or double that amount. I'd rather not fight you, and I am planning on sending Ethiopia and the AFU a letter to state that the British military will not engage Ethiopian or AFU troops. The AFU could get the support of Libya, and The USSR and China could help one of you or they could help their own rebels in Sudan. So the possible outcomes I can think of are:

~"The Sun Never Sets on Sudan"- Britain takes over Sudan, and splits the North and South into different protectorates and let's then choose their future path in a referendum.

~"The Simple Solution"- Ethiopia takes over South Sudan, while the AFU takes over North Sudan and the British, South Africans or the UN can administer a buffer zone between the two.

~"Commie Intervention"- The Soviets and/or the Chinese get involved and support a division of The Red Revolutionary Front in Sudan, and Sudan becomes communist and a Soviet puppet.

~"Balkanisation"- Sudan gets split between a Arab part that becomes part of the AFU, a Christian part that becomes part of Ethiopia, a part that becomes British, a Soviet part and a Sudanese-government or militia controlled part.

~"The Status Quo"- Sudan stays the same as it was before the war, and all foreign forces leave Sudan.

~"The Empire Does Not Strike Back"- British troops decide to leave the war, and they may keep Port Sudan and/or the regions near directly adjacent to the British colonies of Uganda and Kenya. The British decide to let the war play out without their involvement.

~"The Empire Gets it's Ass Kicked"- Ethiopia, The Congo, South Africa and maybe the USSR, Cuba, China, and maybe even the US intervene and stop the British advance into Sudan. Then the fighting between the other factions in the was continues, but without British involvement.

~"A Call From The Boss"- The United States is pressured to intervene and stop Britain's attempted recolonisation of The Congo. Johnson calls Prime Minister Heath and tells him to knock it off or there will be consequences. the British comply and they leave.

Did you get a mix up on that last one?

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Gyrenaica wrote:Currently, Congo is in Rebuilding stage. That means I'm cozying up to USA, UK, France.

LET'S GET COZY CONGO!

The UK can train, fund and better equip and arm your military and help you get the other Congo and give you aid money and such. I like the idea of Britain having a base or two in the Congo, and I thank you for that. This isn't really my place, but could South Africa get a base in the Congo if possible?

Yes. They fellow Africans. Both have lots of resources. And people.

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Postby The Socialist Siverian State » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:16 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I think this thing will the Suez crisis of out timeline, where Britain loses its status as a superpower.

How would that happen in the Rp?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:52 pm

Turns out Sudan was socialist at the era, so supporting the government is out. I am thinking about pressuring the British to leave or help the Ethiopians, with the establishment of the Republic of the Nile.

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Postby The Socialist Siverian State » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:39 pm

What if Gaddafi's regime wins against the rebels, can I RP as Libya?
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Postby Cabana » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:54 pm

So Kelvin, I need some shit to do. Wanna conduct some diplomacy so I got a reason other than the war to post?
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Postby The Socialist Siverian State » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:11 pm

In an ironic twist, Gaddafi wins over the incredibly dumbass revolutionaries.

And I'm switching to RPing as Libya.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:26 pm

The Socialist Siverian State wrote:In an ironic twist, Gaddafi wins over the incredibly dumbass revolutionaries.

And I'm switching to RPing as Libya.


what a coincidence, I wanted you to be Gaddafi anyway.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:32 pm

Red Party wrote:
Rebel Group Application

NS Name: Red Party
Rebel Group Name: The Democratic Forces of Lebanon
Flag, emblem or symbol of rebel group (optional):
Leader of Your Group: Hasim Yalin
Area Your Rebel Group Operates In: Lebanon, some small Syrian cities
Political Freedoms (from a scale of 1/10): 8
Civil Rights (from a scale of 1/10): 7
Rebel Military Strength (from a scale of 1/10): 6
Is your group aligned with The West/America/NATO, The East/Soviets/Communist, or nonaligned: NATO
If your group is aligned The West, is nation in NATO: Lebanon is not in NATO
Brief Description of Your Group's Recent History: After the AFU began to rise Christians and Westerners became prosecuted, they slowly feed to the outskirts of Lebanon and now they wan't their home back.
Brief Description of Your Group's Agenda (Get independence or increase ties with NATO or Warsaw Pact for instance): Launch a movement for Lebanon to gain independence from the AFU



Christians are well represented in the AFU. They have their own rep in the Revolutionary council.
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Postby The Socialist Siverian State » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:34 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
The Socialist Siverian State wrote:In an ironic twist, Gaddafi wins over the incredibly dumbass revolutionaries.

And I'm switching to RPing as Libya.


what a coincidence, I wanted you to be Gaddafi anyway.

I'm surprised the OP didn't say anything about my historical inaccuracies. I love history, but forgot Gaddafi was Socialist.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:35 pm

The Socialist Siverian State wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
what a coincidence, I wanted you to be Gaddafi anyway.

I'm surprised the OP didn't say anything about my historical inaccuracies. I love history, but forgot Gaddafi was Socialist.
:palm:


So, shall we discuss the annexation of Libya in IC?
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Postby The Socialist Siverian State » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:41 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
The Socialist Siverian State wrote:I'm surprised the OP didn't say anything about my historical inaccuracies. I love history, but forgot Gaddafi was Socialist.
:palm:


So, shall we discuss the annexation of Libya in IC?

Uh, the deal was about the Communist winning. Right???
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:42 pm

The Socialist Siverian State wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
So, shall we discuss the annexation of Libya in IC?

Uh, the deal was about the Communist winning. Right???


It was, but honestly, I would have preferred it for Gaddafi to win.
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Postby The Socialist Siverian State » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:48 pm

Nation Application

NS Name: The Socialist Siverian State
Nation Name: Libyan Arab Republic
National Flag:
Leader of Your Nation: Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddaf
Population of Your Nation (optional):
Political Freedoms (from a scale of 1/10): 3
Civil Rights (from a scale of 1/10): 2
Military Strength (from a scale of 1/10): 8
Is your nation aligned with The West/America/NATO, The East/Soviets/Communist, or nonaligned: Communists
If your nation is aligned The West, is nation in NATO:
Brief Description of Your Nation's Recent History: After the 1969 coup d'etat, and short civil war, Gaddafi's governmemt cracks down on free speech and and plans to align with the Soviets.
Brief Description of Your Nation's Foreign Relations Agenda (Increase ties with NATO or Warsaw Pact for instance): Increase ties with Warsaw Pact,
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:29 pm

The Socialist Siverian State wrote:
Nation Application

NS Name: The Socialist Siverian State
Nation Name: Libyan Arab Republic
National Flag:
Leader of Your Nation: Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddaf
Population of Your Nation (optional):
Political Freedoms (from a scale of 1/10): 3
Civil Rights (from a scale of 1/10): 2
Military Strength (from a scale of 1/10): 8
Is your nation aligned with The West/America/NATO, The East/Soviets/Communist, or nonaligned: Communists
If your nation is aligned The West, is nation in NATO:
Brief Description of Your Nation's Recent History: After the 1969 coup d'etat, and short civil war, Gaddafi's governmemt cracks down on free speech and and plans to align with the Soviets.
Brief Description of Your Nation's Foreign Relations Agenda (Increase ties with NATO or Warsaw Pact for instance): Increase ties with Warsaw Pact,


So, will Libya hold a vote on the matter of annexation, or will Gaddafi just say so?
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Postby Esceen » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:30 pm

The Danish Confederacy wrote:
British Empire Strikes Back wrote:Help me take Sudan back, and after some time I may give it to you.

Also, if you help the Danes, I will not help you with nukes and your military.

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